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[edit] Kevin's Adminship

What are some pointers you would give for working to become an Admin? Kevin5593Kevin 01:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC

[edit] Koizilla

Felinoel thank you for proving my point on the Koizilla page. I'm happy at least someone agrees with me. Kevin5593 Kevin 06:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gyatso

I hope I didn't sound too condescending when talking about Gyatso. I didn't mean to sound like a jerk or anything.Puragus 04:01, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

np np, you were right, I was uninformed and wrong Felinoel 04:02, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, cool.Puragus 04:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the support, dude.Puragus 14:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Ask Omibender. I'm not sure, but I think I remember he was the one to mark it (Ty Lee's relationships) for deletion.

[edit] Hancock

You saw Hancock, nice. How was it? Scott 20:32, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Marking for deletion

To mark a page for deletion put {{delete}} in it. When marking a page for deletion, see if it's not a stub, in which case the page needs to be developed. If the page is somewhat developed, put {{VfD}}, and give your reasons to delete it at Avatar Wiki:Votes for Deletion. Omnibender 18:29, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

There is a process for deletion. Fist the page must be tagged as stated above then the deletion reasons must be discussed on Category Talk:Candidates for speedy deletion. Have a nice day. Zero 06:34, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Now whos being hasty. Zero 08:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Useful Features

From where you are reading now, look left and scroll up the page, you'll see some boxes. The top one contains a search bar, a link to the main page, and some content related stuff. In the same box, you can see some blue links, one of which is the recent changes. You can set the way they're presented to you, like hiding your own changes, or showing only the last 50 changes, or 500 changes. It's in that page that there's the link I told you about. If you want to set your preferences, there is a "more" bar in the upper right corner of the screen, besides your user name, click on the arrow and select "my preferences", and from there you can work by yourself. Omnibender 02:10, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't that either, some of those images are there so there's always an option available when an article is changed. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point all of them were used and then substituted by other images. Omnibender 16:31, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The only conceivable reason I can think of not to delete that image is if that's an image from a show writer, there are pages about some of them. If it isn't a show writer who doesn't have a page, feel free to tag it for deletion. About the other images, just let them be, we might find places to use them again, it would be too high maintenance to delete the images just to upload them again if we ever need them. Omnibender 02:01, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

If it's not being used you can tag it. Omnibender 02:06, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

It was me from before I joined yes, I've been looking for comments I made back then and signing them so people know it was me. And I don't know if there was a page for the Abridged Series back then, all I know is that there is one now. Omnibender 15:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Thats an odd place to put this o.O Felinoel 17:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Your talk page already has way too many subheadings. Omnibender 17:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Meh, more is fine Felinoel 17:56, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Took me a while to figure out what each color code changed, but after getting it worked out ok. Omnibender 20:56, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Whoever did it, misunderstood me, I said we only use infoboxes for characters according to their "nationality", but only for animal characters, like Appa, Momo, Nyla and Hawky, not EVERY single creature. If it doesn't hurt the articles or looks awkward, I see no reason to remove them though, I'll have to see that later, I just came by right now to see if I had new messages. It's 1:00 pm here, and I still have classes, I'll look at the changes when I get back home, around 6:30 or 7:00. Omnibender 15:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Not really, see my argument at Talk:Lion Turtle. Omnibender 21:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ƒelinoel

I was just talking to you on that other site Daniel 02:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh really? Who are you there? Felinoel 02:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Dgw2008 same as here i thought it was funny the whole thing about soundbendingDaniel 03:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Soundbending is an actual theory =b Felinoel 03:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
yeah i knowhave you seen my char. Daniel 03:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Possibly? Felinoel 03:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Don Go Won Daniel 03:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
k Felinoel 03:46, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
so have you Daniel 03:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Ummm, well I saw it on your wikia page here... Felinoel 04:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
did you like it Daniel 04:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Sure? Felinoel 05:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
do you think that there will be a new avatar season 06:51, 21 July 2008 (UTC)~
No, but I do think there will be a new Avatar series, they made way too much money on this to not make another series from it, it would be bad business and just plain dumb Felinoel 02:01, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Earth

Technically yes but I like the Earth Kindom better.Lord Momo 22:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Please use this page Felinoel 22:17, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

sorry. Lord Momo 00:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

np np Felinoel 00:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

yeah so thats why. Lord Momo 00:20, 18 July 2008 (UTC) so has The Southern Raiders premeired where you live yet?Lord Momo 00:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adminship

Please read the instructions before applying for adminship, and I will consider you. Howabout1-(Talk) 02:08, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Me, because that isnt where it belongs. Read the instructions. Howabout1-(Talk) 03:52, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I didn't. Its not a problem. Im scanning through your edits now, I should have an answer by tomorrow. Howabout1-(Talk) 03:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

You are now an administrator. Congratulations. Use delete/block sparingly for a bit, but Ill leave it to your own judgment, as we don't have official policy yet. Anything you do can be undone, so a mistake isn't the end of the world. Enjoy, and feel free to ask me any questions. Howabout1-(Talk) 04:59, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Felonel congrats on achieving Admin. But remember, You're not the only one. Zero 06:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Whale Tail Island

Talk to me on the templates discussion page. Zero 06:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Like I said you should switch pages I am currebtly working on changing the backgroud as you suggested. Zero 07:15, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Guru Pathik

I don't think the color matters too much, but I would stick with gray personally. Howabout1-(Talk) 16:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Linking

Are you sure it's against the policy? I've posted links to images and interviews in outside sites and no one ever reprehended me for it. I put it like [http://avatar.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&hidemyself=1&days=30&limit=500 this page] this and no one ever called my attention. Omnibender 18:47, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I already gave the guy the link to Water character infobox. Omnibender 18:55, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Interesting place to put that but ok Felinoel 18:57, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

About those [de] additions to articles, those are inter language links, there's a little language bar/boxes to the left, in the cases we saw, they give the option to go to the German article. Omnibender 00:19, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Complaint

Mind giving me the talk page where this happened? And telling Zero to post his side on my talk? Thanks, and Ill look into it. Howabout1-(Talk) 06:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sokka's Weapons

His Bomerang was made before the weapons page to but it still doesn't have its on page i think we should rediret it ~ Daniel 09:11, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:complaint

I have replied on my talk. Howabout1-(Talk) 17:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] San Diego Comic Con

I hope so as well! But i am dying to know more about Ursa and Azula and their whereabouts. As well as the new series of course.Newyorkme22 06:11, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MonkG

In http://www.avatarspiritmedia.net/interviews.php?id=20 they hint that G. is a member of OWL ~ Daniel 07:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FA

On most other Wikis there are little bronze or golden stars at the top of every Featured Article. Like a badge of honor. I think we should have one. It would look like-> Image:FA-star.png or File:LinkFA-star.png. What do you think?Mattkenn3 16:21, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean l'ami?Mattkenn3 18:29, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

L'ami means friend.Mattkenn3 22:23, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know. I've asked a few other people, so you probably have seen it. It's a go. So we are starting it.Mattkenn3 14:54, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] IP

Yes, that would be a good user to ban. I'd recommend a time even as long as a year, but it's up to you. Howabout1-(Talk) 03:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Avatar d20 System

Thanks to Ryan I found my article here, I need to find an easier way to find it, I can never find my world map either without knowing its article's exact name and the correct order it is in X_X felinoel ~ (Talk) 01:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Make way for a move

Hi there. Could you delete Jee? I'm trying to make way for a move. I'm planning to move Lieutenant Jee to Jee. Lieutenant shouldn't be in the title name. I'm not an administrator on this wiki (but I am on quite a lot of other wikis though), so I can't do things like this yet until I become an admin here. And I'm assuming your an admin. :P Thanks, RyanCross (talk) 01:44, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mistakes

Please see the episodes. You've made too many mistakes already. I know that you're not doing it on purpose but you should really see all the episodes once more so that you can avoid further mistakes. Thank You. Zero - Talk 06:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Says the person who thinks there is no statue of Yangchen in the Air Temple? felinoel ~ (Talk) 06:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I didnt say it wasn't there. I said that I did'nt remember it being there. However, I did remember there being an absense of Kyoshi. It was just a suggestion anyway. You dont have to listen to me. But a word of advice. If you could get Kyoshi and Roku's bending mixed up then you might be wrong abut this too. I'll watch the episode today. If I'm wrong then I'll appologise. Zero - Talk 06:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

In other words, you made a mistake, uh oh, you should take your own advice, either that or stop giving out advice like that felinoel ~ (Talk) 09:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I wrote this here because putting it on the Yangchen Talk page might have been a little more embarrasing for you. Zero - Talk 06:39, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Next time just put it in the discussion and don't move it somewhere else felinoel ~ (Talk) 09:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

How exactly did I make a mistake? Yet. I havent even looked at the episode today yet. Please dont speak prematurely. And another thing. If I made a mistake this once. It my one against your many. Haha. Sayanora. Zero - Talk 09:54, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Many equals two or three? Since when? At least when I make "mistakes" I admit it, most of the mistakes I made were this same case, I forgot a point in an episode, just like now with you felinoel ~ (Talk) 09:57, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I also admit my mistakes when they become apparent to me. I guess in that manner we're pretty much alike. Zero - Talk 10:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Guys stop fighting over so many minor details. There is no need to fight, everyone makes mistake, and in one's own lifetime they make more mistakes than they can count. This isn't just you, this is me, this is everyone on this planet. If one of you was mistaken over something minor like this, just correct the error and tell the person why. No need to fight! I may not be a negotiater, but two admins like you shouldn't fight with eachother over a small minor error on this wiki, chill! Joeyaa 10:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

And yet, when Yangchen was shown to Aang in the Air Temple, and you said she wasn't, when she was felinoel ~ (Talk) 10:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Minor details? This guy keeps telling me I make constant mistakes and that I should consult the show every time I make a post, when I definitely have no time to do that, and he made a mistake of his own felinoel ~ (Talk) 10:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not going to go out and take sides, everyone makes errors, if you made an error, just admit it and fix it. The point of a wiki is to teach people about every aspect of the subject, in this case avatar. It would be the same if you didn't know everyhing about an animal in the avatar world, fix it, admit it, and move on. I hope two you are willing just to forget about it, and move on. Thx. Joeyaa 10:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually you just took my side, just letting you know, because what you just said was my side felinoel ~ (Talk) 10:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I've already told you. If I see her there I'll appologise. I dont suffer from an over excessive ego like my sister. Now calm down before you give yourself a hemorhage. (Trust me I know what anger does to ones self) Zero - Talk 10:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

The room is decked out with every Avatar, even if you don't see her there, she was shown to Aang felinoel ~ (Talk) 10:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

So... you're saying you can see everything Aang sees now. Oh boy. I just remebered Howabout1 specifically told me not to get in too big of a discussion with you. I'm out. And I will appologise if I see her in the episode. Also, I didnt say It wasnt there. I said I dont remember seeing it there. Its perfectly possible that it was there but not shown to the viewers. Zero - Talk 10:21, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks that's all I could ever ask for, and also, I sure hope I don't get a hemorage:P. Joeyaa 10:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Quit putting words in my mouth, what I am saying is that if there is something in front of where Aang is looking, there is a definite good chance he sees it felinoel ~ (Talk) 10:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Zero - Talk 10:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Just leave it, your just fighting over spilled milk, Zero2001 said he apollogizes and I think you two should just forget about and accept his apollogy. It's ovwer and there is no need to bring this up any longer.Joeyaa 10:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

No he didn't, he said he will if he can see Yangchen in the Southern Air Temple, and he implied he wouldn't if she is designed differently then when she was officially introduced felinoel ~ (Talk) 10:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

You know, Kyoshi is one article out of the curently 707 on this wiki. The sentence that would mention her being seen is about 8 words out of a milion, is yelling, complaining and being rude to each other worth those 8 in a million words? Dont worry about who is right, worry about who is wrong, both or you for letting this get so far, DROP IT! That wea me yelling and emphazings how it is over, justr drop it now. i hope that you both will stop. Joeyaa 10:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually its Yangchen, I told Zero he shouldn't have moved the conversation from the original page, now just as I expected confusion arises felinoel ~ (Talk) 10:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Yanchen... whatever, just drop it, who cares...Joeyaa 10:54, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

The article's correctiveness cares, or maybe I should be more impulsive and just start changing this without saying a word about the changes? felinoel ~ (Talk) 10:57, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Forget about it, stop thinking about, and don't bring it up again, you both just should stop thinking about it, leave it as it is, and if it really is wrong, another admin or user will fix it. No big deal, just don't care about this one article.Joeyaa 11:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I care about many, many articles, and I don't see why I am not allowed to change something to being correct? felinoel ~ (Talk) 11:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Felinoel, I have said the same thing to you and Zero, there is no need to fight, if you to can't stay away from eachother well enough and end up fighting on an article, ask other users what they think like a discussion, no need to bark at zero or vice versa, ok Zero has stopped, now it is your turn. Joeyaa 11:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Zero has started it by telling me I make constant mistakes, which is hypocritical, and as I have said to Howabout, I pretty much go everywhere in this wikia, I get about 50 emails a day saying where there are edits, I cannot be where Zero is not because he is going to be somewhere in this wikia, contradicting something I say whether his contradiction be right or wrong, he will still be there doing it felinoel ~ (Talk) 11:21, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I checked it out. They didnt show Yangchen. However that does not mean that she wouldnt have been there were it a real live situation. I never said that the rooms dont contain the statues of every avatar. i said that the Creators hadnt given thought to the avatars before roku at the time. The Reason Avatar Yangchen wasn't shown was that the concept of Avatar Yangchen wasnt developed untill the Escape from the Spirit World comic. Zero - Talk 11:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

That room proves the concept of Yangchen exiting, the concept of Yangchen being an Avatar coming before the Avatar before the Avatar that was before the Avatar that was before Aang felinoel ~ (Talk) 11:40, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I really dont see your point. And I'm willing to bet that the other admins wont see your point either. Stop making stuff up. Zero - Talk 11:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

My point is, it is a room full of statues of all Avatars, canon-ly speaking, she is there felinoel ~ (Talk) 11:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

And I'm saying that she wasnt shown in the episode. While canonly she would be there that I agree but she wasnt shown there. Also, the Closed Discussion Template is to be only used when the discussion is closed, which, from what I can see, is not the case here. Zero - Talk 12:00, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

And yet, what was shown in the episode is not what is being discussed here, which I still say is wrong for this discussion to be here, as for the closed discussion thing, I just have to say that there you go again, being hypocritical felinoel ~ (Talk) 12:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Arrgh! You're the hypocrite here. I always said that fromm the beginning and you mistook me. Do you do this on purpose? Thats it I'm done with this... this... Arrgh. Good bye. Zero - Talk 12:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Due to such a lovely... response, I have responded to the above statement on Zero's talk page because that was what we were discussing at the moment, him having the discussion closed tag on a discussion that was not closed and then yelling at me for doing just that and him for some reason calling me a hypocrit where he was the one who was being hypocritical because he was saying not to do one thing and doing just that himself felinoel ~ (Talk) 12:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Fire Lord Kuzon 01:44, 20 August 2008 (UTC)=== Arguement === Hi its User: Fire Lord Kuzon, I have noticed a bit of disturbence between you and Zero, i just wanted to know what the reason is for this,and to warn you i hade an arguement with Omnibender and Avatar Sanders and not to scare you but Omnibender talked to an admin and got me blocked for a week, if you dont be careful you can be blocked for ever and never have permission to enter the site, please get back to me on my talk page. User talk:Fire Lord Kuzon

Yea, if you don't want someone on a wikia to see something, don't type it felinoel ~ (Talk) 01:23, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

The reason I didnt remove the discussion closed from my part of the discussion was that I could'nt. I was going to but I was either too busy replying to your comments or my internet connection was on the fritz. I've removed it now. By the way. It seems we are at an agreement: The Avatar Yangchen statue wasnt shown in the episode TSAT however, cononically speaking it should be there. It seems I mistook some of your posts. I appologise for that. And tell that Fire Lord Kuzon not to butt into discussions between two admin. It could seriously land him in hot water. Zero - Talk 03:32, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

It was not about removing it, it was about having it there in the first place felinoel ~ (Talk) 03:43, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I put it there when you put yours on. But when the discussion continued that was when I realized that it should'nt be there. I managed to take yours off but the net got cut off when I tried to take mine off. I'm sorry. Zero - Talk 03:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

And yet, you still put it on, why put it on then yell at me for having it on? felinoel ~ (Talk) 04:28, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

In case you havent noticed I've taken it off now. And this is not yelling! (Example: THIS IS YELLING!) You called me hypocritical which is the worst insult you could give me. Please do not do it again. Where I'm from it outstrips even the F-Ranked words. Please I no longer wish to fight with yoou. Joeyaa is right we should be working together not against each other. This discussion is at an end. This is your talk page so you may put the Discusson closed template now. Also never call me hypocritical again. Or I swear I will never forgive you for it. Zero - Talk 11:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Doing something, then saying not to do it, and then later undoing the something you did in the first place is still originally being hypocritical, my apologies for this "worst insult" but its true, at least now you get a taste of your own medicine I guess felinoel ~ (Talk) 14:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

A taste of my own medicine you say? Well the curse of learning a language is that you also learn that languages curse words. In my case I learned many of them due to reading books all the time. I have never used any insulting curse words on this or any wikia. I'm sorry if you thought I was insulting. But I usually only give as much as I get and sometimes even less, never more. That's my way of life. Just as you do not consider calling someone a hypocrite a grave insult so do I also not consider the words I used with you prior to your insult as insults. Perhaps you do. I appologise for that but maybe you should rethink your language skills. Maybe you need to reclassify the words you know. Also an exclaimation mark can also denote excitement not just yelling. Add that to your grammar skills. Also you cant call someone a hypocrite when he obviously made a mistake that was out of his control. As in my case the fault was in my connection. Not me as a person. Reassess your skills please. Zero - Talk 13:44, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I do say. Books are an excellent way to learn a language's words, yes. I never said you used any insulting curse words. I never said calling someone hypocritical isn't offensive, I merely explained to you that what you did was in fact hypocritical no matter how offensive it is. My language skills are just fine Mr. I-complain-when-someone-insults-me-but-I-go-and-insult-someone-right-after-complaining-about-it-anyways, that too was being hypocritical. That "mistake" was not accidental, nor was it "obviously" accidental, you did something and then you said not to do it, I don't see how that is "obviously accidental." felinoel ~ (Talk) 06:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Collapsibility Problem

Hey someone fixed the collapsibility problem with the templates. If you know who did it could you tell me? I wanna thank him/her. Zero - Talk 03:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Was it Joeyaa? Zero - Talk 03:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Well. He was trying to do that. I think it was him. I'll ask. Zero - Talk 03:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

It was him. Zero - Talk 11:52, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Agree

would you agree with this statement?:

listen if you have ever read Julius Caesar you will understand that doing something like that will end up bad. Giving an admin the power to say no this discussion is over just isn't right. and fyi you're acting like an admin is like a police chief when its more like a security guard. Admin is less of an authority figure and more of a peacekeeper so don't get high and mighty. I think if I'm the one who this new template is gonna affect I should get a say in whether it should even exist.Lord Momo 04:48, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Lord Momo 04:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Momo is interfering. Dont answer him. Even Howabout1 has endorsed what Momo is against. See Template Talk:Discussion Closed. And no its not only him that the template is for. I made it so that long discussions can have their results summarized ad rekindling of long dead discussions can not happen. You know how much problems that cause. Zero - Talk 11:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Well he asked me a question and I would agree with it, but apparently according to you Howabout says its not true, odd, oh well then felinoel ~ (Talk) 14:43, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Avatar Wika's Time

How come the Wika's time says its August 21st when its the 20th?

Well sorry about that. What do you think about creating an Actor Aang, Actor Zuko, Actor Sokka, and Actress Toph.Kevin5593Kevin 02:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

If you guys live in a different time zone, then to change the time displayed on the site by you, just change it in your prefrences, that easy. Joeyaa 13:36, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chibi

Dont get me wrong. The ones I've seen were hilarious. But I'm more of a story kinda guy. And I did'nt have the time to see them, I dont live in the States after all. They were just not interesting enough for me to see them all. Not everyone has the same likes and dislikes. You should know that by now. Zero - Talk 06:35, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I've seen two out of three and I've read the travscript of the first chibi "Schooltime Shipping". So... You were talking of the Moon Powers Yue used to get rid of Suki were'nt you. AvatarSpirit has many Transcripts and Snapshots. - Zero - Talk 05:09, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin

I once told Howabout1 that I wasnt so sure if kevin should be made an admin and told Howabout1 to be careful. I also had to be careful and only used "k" to refer to Kevin. He replied on my talk. See the Blocking Section. I was telling the truth and that's not wrong. I still thought that Kevin might change so I sent him some tips. But I was wrong about that. I regret what he's done. But if he continues on this path, I will not regret what I will be forced to do. Zero - Talk 06:35, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I think he's made himself pretty clear on Kevins Talk Page. But you have a point. OK. Zero - Talk 07:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notice

Please fill in your details at the Avatar Wiki:Administrators Page. - Zero - Talk 09:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

You're Welcome. - Zero - Talk 04:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion Closed Template

This template is not for personal comments. You are supposed to write a formal result of the discussion. I did'nt expect this from an admin. Next time keep your comments to yourself. - Zero - Talk 09:31, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

You mean You werent the one who put the comment on the NAT section of the Template Talk:AvatarLocations page? Sorry if it was'nt you. I should have checked more closely. I humbly appologise for this mixup. I cant tell you how sorry I am. Can you forgive me? (And No I'm not joking this time. If it really was'nt you then I just made a biig mistake and I hate it when that happens. So... sorry for the trouble) - Zero - Talk 07:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It was you. You as much as admitted it when you wrote that post. I take back everything I wrote in the last message. (Hahaha. It was funny by the way. How this turned out I mean) - Zero - Talk 07:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

You are supposed to write a formal result of the discussion and not make cheap jabs. I dont want to get into another argument with you. Have a Nice Day. - Zero - Talk 07:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It was a chep jab and you know it. Just dont do it again, OK? - Zero - Talk 07:42, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

When you use a truth to annoy or embarass someone, it is called a cheap jab. By the way, do you have to get in the last word? - Zero - Talk 07:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I was annoyed. Of course its a cheap jab. - Zero - Talk 08:19, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Just dont do it again OK? Thats all I wanted from you in the first place. - Zero - Talk 08:25, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Stoip beng sarcastic. What I want from you is to be formal while writing the result. If you can't do that then let others write it. Good Day, Dum Dum. - Zero - Talk 10:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

And I suppose you cant help being informal, eh? Seriously. - Zero - Talk 12:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Look who's talking. Formal is a clear and concise statement of the result of the discussion regarding the topic in question. Since you deviated and decided to leave a stinging remark it was not a Formal result. Get your priorities right. You're an admin. Act like one. - Zero - Talk 09:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I am not, as you say, changing the subject. This started with you making an informal/vindictive remark on the Discussion Closed Template. Thats what I've been asking you not to do the whole time. Now If I started commenting on the way that you tried to pin what you are trying to do on me (This behavior is comonly known as Projection in Psychology) then that would be changing the subject. I repeat: The Discussion Closed Template is not to be used to make informal/vindictive remarks. Please bear this in mind. Thats what I've been saying all along. But appearently you want to get out of this conversation yet get some semblence of victory so bad that you're willing to wrongly acuse me. BTW it didnt work. You are still advised not to make witty/informal/vindictive comments on the template. Like I said before: "Get your priorities right. You're an admin. Act like one." I never thought you would stoop so low. How disappointing. Good Day. - Zero - Talk 06:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I see... That's what you were talking about. If that is so then it is you who are unknowingly changing the subject. We are currently talking about using formal statements in the result section of the template. Not that old story that was proven to be NOT hypocrisy but instead a problem caused in my internet connection due to which I was unable to remove my discussion's Closing Template. (I had to use my university computer to doi so the next day) Reread the discussion on this. I no longer wrote in it because i now considered it closed. no point in it, a complete waste of time Funny though how writing in the wrong section can have disastrous results. Back to the subject at hand. Do... Not... Write... Witty/Informal/Vindictive... Comments... In... The... Result... Section... Of... This... Template... (If you dont know why I'm putting (...) between every word then I'm pausing between each word for effect in the previous statement) In such a case its not about just truth. Its about being professional. Also how exactly was my statement a lie. It stated the result according to the topic in question perfectly. And you are so too projecting. Good Day. - Zero - Talk 08:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

LOLs. I put it after you put it. But when you continued the discussion it was then that I tried to remove it and asked you to do so as well. I could'nt remove mine beacause of network problems. Otherwise I would have done so. - Zero - Talk 07:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC) - Zero - Talk 04:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. When I realized that it was'nt closed I asked you to remove the tag. I tried to remove mine as well. (See above for the reason I could'nt) but you obviously like to project so much that you're now projecting your stubborness on me. Also the win loss ration of our discussions has been more or less equal. Here's some advice: Get out of your little fantasy world. It's annoying. Also do not attempt to talk to me again regarding this discussion. As far as I'm concerned I've done what I started out to do and any further talk on this subject is useless since you refuse to read my posts. Good Day. - Zero - Talk 06:39, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes we've already been over this. The Discussion was not closed but I thought it was. Now please try to understand. Its not that hard to do so. And stop being rude. Mr. I-Think-I-Know-Everything-There-Is-To-Know-About-Zero2001-While-I-Really-Know-Nothing-At-All. I do not act that way. Good Bye. Also, stop indenting your posts. Its looking like an upside down stairway. A simple empty line between every post will do. Thank You. - Zero - Talk 06:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps my posts failed to properly emphasize my ideas. I certainly havent contradicted myself as far as I remember. Conceded maybe but not contradicted. Also arguments change according to circumstances. As for your request: I agree. Good Day. - Zero - Talk 07:08, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

One other thing I put to you the same request pertaining me as you gave me. - Zero - Talk 07:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Look Who's Talking. I wont post after this if you wont. You can acknowledge but no more. - Zero - Talk 07:15, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2 new wikis

Hi! I'm not sure how often it's checked, so I just wanted to make sure the admins saw the question I posted to Avatar Wiki talk:Community Portal. Thanks! —Scott (talk) 21:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] To Zero and Felinoel

Ok, I am tired of your constant fighting. I've been brought into it twice, and thats twice too many times. It seems like every time either of you posts anywhere, the other comes in, and you take over the discussion with little more than bickering. It's going to stop. If one of you posts on a talk page, it's off limits to the other. If you must post on it, do not reply to the others post, ignore them entirely. Each others talk pages are off limits. Neither of you will bait the other into replying, either. Doing any of the above after this time stamp is breaking this rule. Repeated violations will result in loss of adminship. There is no reason for this to happen on a wikia based on a show on Nickelodeon. Howabout1-(Talk) 03:13, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I do insist. The post on my page replying to Zero is strike one, once more and you lose your adminship. Howabout1-(Talk) 01:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't see what he said as a reply. What you did clearly was. You used my talk page to continue your pointless fight with him. I'm not going to allow that when I'm this fed up already. That's a large part of why I'm stopping this, you turn half the wiki into an argument. This isn't just aimed at you by any means, but yes, you're the only one with a strike. Howabout1-(Talk) 05:24, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

No... if you disagree with Zero, you aren't allowed to say anything about it. This only applies to you and him, who have been arguing on half the wiki. Howabout1-(Talk) 06:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I really don't see why you are taking it like this... this only applies to you and Zero. Any one else on the wiki can discuss things as much as they want, I am just sick and tired of every single talk page I look at being an argument between you and Zero. If you've shown you can't discuss things civily, even pointing out errors, with Zero, you lose the right to. Point out errors with other users as much as you want. Howabout1-(Talk) 14:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't care too much if you don't like this. If Zero breaks the agreement, tell me about it. I don't call what he did earlier breaking it. Arguing this is getting you nowhere. Howabout1-(Talk) 21:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Because you claimed it was breaking it... The only post he has on that section doesn't mention or refer to you at all, so that isn't either. Howabout1-(Talk) 03:36, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

You mean the part about being able to reply if you don't refer to them? In my original post, I said: "If you must post on it, do not reply to the others post, ignore them entirely.". Howabout1-(Talk) 04:49, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's there if you want to scroll up. Howabout1-(Talk) 04:52, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Clarifying

What are you talking about? Said what where? I'm assuming this is about what I said to Zero-what's your problem with it? Puragus - Talk 22:41, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I read it. I saw that it's what I said to Zero. Now I ask you, what is your effing problem with it? Puragus - Talk 22:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

It being a democratic process is not why you posted WHAT? I'm sorry, but I don't know what you're talking about.

Are you referring to why you put the vote on Sokka's Talk page in the first place? Or the votes on the other pics? As far as I can see, it IS a democratic process, and Zero is allowed to vote as long as he doesn't address you directly. How does anything I ever said contradict anything you posted?

Or are you talking about why you posted on my talk page? In that case, why did you post there? Puragus - Talk 23:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

If you're not going to clarify yourself, I'm done talking to you. Puragus - Talk 03:54, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:felinoel

Okay, fair enough.

But, for the record, I didn't think you were trying to keep Zero from voting, and I only got angry with you after you started posting on my talk page. (I decided to take this off Howabout's talk page) Puragus - Talk 22:16, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

My mistake for thinking you were stringing me along. Let's just drop thew whole thing.

BTW, you might want to check Sokka's talk page. We've picked eight pics and everyone's voting. Puragus - Talk 22:24, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Yue's Mother deletion?

The reason was that there wasn't enough information on the character. We deleted Than's sister for the same reason. This wasn't a decision I made myself. Omnibender agreed with me, and there was a discussion on the talk page for several days before now. Puragus - Talk 03:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikia Problems

Felinoel in case you didn't notice there is a big fatal error on Wikia right now, that is why the problem reports about Aang's armor and such have been there, and now when you edited Nick's mistakes, the system glitched and you made a new page, with the same text, just with a / in the page name, so I suggest everyone stops editing temporarily untill the problem is fixed. Oh, and if you can, the page you made when you edited, please delete it, because now there is two Nick's Mistakes pages, but one called Nick's Mistakes and the one the system glitched and made, Nick/'s Mistakes Thanks. Joey - Talk 02:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Excellant, and I actually have contacted two a member of the technical team to help fix the bug in the system, because if you checked, the system is adding slahes in the middle of pages with a (') in them, and also, have restricted access to the special pages page, so ya it is all up to them, thanks. Joey - Talk 02:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Try to remove it if you can, but because I am not familiar with the deletion process, if you can't remove the slash, blank or mark the page and tomorrow or so when this problem is fixed, you can deal with it then, thanks. Joey - Talk 02:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Ya Skizzerz and Crucially have fixed all the problems I mentioned, so it should be over, at least for now that it. Joey - Talk 03:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help

Hey you seem Comp. oriented and i nedd help with someone to me step up my Wiki on Charmed Fan Fic i would really like your help and support ~ Daniel 04:12, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

K thanks I am in my second year ands this is my first time here since September soooo Thanks anyway ~ Daniel 04:07, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vote

If you get the chance, would you mind casting a vote for the profile pic at Talk:Sokka? I don't mean to pressure you, but I'm not sure if you're aware of the debate, and it ends Monday. Energybender - Talk 06:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, but you need to put your vote in the voting area under the image of your choice. Otherwise it doesn't count. Energybender - Talk 18:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Omnibender created the voting area, not me. Everyone knew about it. It doesn't matter though, the vote has ended. Energybender - Talk 22:20, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Read the text a few lines underneath the fake "Sokka picture number 9". There it is stated by Omnibender that Howabout1's in-text vote did not count because Omnibender created the voting area, which at that time made it the sole voting system, with nothing else counting from that moment on. I assume that Howabout1's vote isn't in the voting area due to his recent leave. Omnibender wasn't just going to stick Howabout1's signature in the voting area, because that would be forgery (there are others whom also didn't put their vote in the voting area after its creation as well). Also, some people changed their minds in-text. Therefore, if every in-text vote were counted, people would have votes counted for themselves more than once, which in society is illegal. Does this clarify everything? Energybender - Talk 22:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

It had been clearly marked there for a while. If you can't be bothered to check that talk page when it updates every once in a while, that's nobody's problem but your own. You shouldn't chew out Energybender because you weren't doing your job as an admin. Puragus - Talk 03:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

What I object to is the tone you took to another user. You snapped at Energybender over a decision made by the active users of this site. Whatever happened, even if your vote was disqualified, you shouldn't have done that. I understand that you had an active schedule (I know a lot of kids who have to balance being a college student with a part-time job and they don't have a lot of free time), so I get that you couldn't be here to recast your vote, but leaving a sarcastic message on another user's page doesn't solve that problem and lowers the tone in the wiki.

Congratulations on your upcoming graduation Puragus - Talk 03:37, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Look, I don't want to get into a thing with you. I know how stressful college can be. Also, this happened a while ago, now. But still, I have to point this out: Nobody just suddenly decided to disqualify your vote - the situation changed. The voting area was added, and it was agreed by just about everybody that that's where the final votes were supposed to go. You weren't here to put your vote there, and nobody knew whether it had changed, and nobody wanted to cast your vote for you. Think about that, for a second; would you really want someone saying you'd voted for a particular image when nobody knew whether that was the case? The truth is, it wasn't unfair to you when we (NOT Energybender, but all of us) discounted your original vote. It would have been unfair to you if any of us had voted for you.

And I have to point this out, too: even if it was unfair to you, did your message to Energybender do anything to solve your problem? Was it fair to him? Did it help the wiki AT ALL?

Like I said, I'm not trying to fight you; I'm trying to convince you not to do that again. Puragus Talk 16:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I simply left the message to vote on your talk page. It wasn't my idea. Energybender 21:01, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, you know what? I'm done. If you don't want to admit you did anything wrong, or if you want to change the subject, or pretend we were talking about something completely different, that's your own business. Maybe I'm being a jerk as well, for talking to you this frankly. If I am, I don't want to do it anymore.

And I don't want to talk about this old issue anymore either, especially if your not going to even consider that you did anything wrong, and that your feelings of victimization may be unjustified. I'm not going to try to change you, and I'm sorry I dragged this issue out for longer than necessary. Puragus Talk 19:40, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Admin Talk

There are new discussions on Avatar Wiki talk:Administrators that you should be a part of. Just letting you know. Puragus Talk 18:26, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

I checked the edits on the Votes for Deletion page, and you're right, Energybender changed his own edit. I was mistaken because of the way multiple edit changes show up when you display them all at once (you know what I'm talking about). I apologize for the mishap, and for my angry edit summary.

Also, if you haven't done it already, could you cast a vote for Katara's profile at Talk:Katara? Puragus Talk 06:02, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Alteration

Just so you know, the actual words weren't changed. I just put spaces in between the indented messages. Energybender 14:16, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry Felinoel about what I said. Kevin5593

People say lots of things Felinoel 05:45, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean what?Kevin 02:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blacklist

I know Felinoel is not active, but I did not know where to put this comment. I don't know if we should allow him to have his list of people he does not like (which only consists of Zero). It's very rude, and it gives users the idea that they can just post people they do not like on their user page. I think it should be removed. Vaznock 23:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

He is only "not active" because whenever he posts something it gets twisted by that particular person in a very rude way and I end up being the bad guy, so I stopped posting before something I said got twisted so much it got me banned. Plus, the show is over, not much left to add.
But if there is a vote for me to remove that I would remove it. felinoel ~ (Talk) 00:24, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't want to get off on the wrong foot. I always enjoy meeting new users (especially users who have not been active for a while). I just think that what you have on your user page may give users the wrong message. Anyways, nice to finally meet you! Vaznock 01:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello? Vaznock - Talk 20:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, and no it was giving off the right message. felinoel ~ (Talk) 13:10, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Gone

You know, I never see you around here anymore. I wish I would. I miss the old community. At least the wiki is getting bigger and better. Oh well, hope to see you around. Mattkenn3 Talk 06:25, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd just like to note the change you made to the administrator template. I came to this wiki at around the time you stopped editing regularly. That's something like five months, during which you've made...40 edits, and nearly all talk too. Inactivity is defined by the regularity of your edits, but of course, your watchfulness is appreciated!
Of course, I don't have anything against you. I'd love for you to start editing again, and then you can change your status back to active. By the way, your Avatar World map is very good, been very useful for me :) The 888th Avatar (Talk) 15:17, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

As would I. You seemed like a good, witty person. But I do think the blacklist should be removed. Vaznock - Talk 15:26, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Was there a reason for the negative remark on my page? I was surprised. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 06:03, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Then you misinterpreted my comment. I said that your watchfulness is appreciated, and that if you started editing regularly, then you could change your status back. I didn't say "go away". Let's get that clear. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 08:28, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmmmmm......Vaznock - Talk 19:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Calm down, guys. He used to be active, now he's not. There are other things in life. Although we wish he would come back, I think he takes our comments as annoying. I'll quit bothering him.--Matt (talk) 23:27, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Matt, he's not active, and sure, he may do that, but he shouldn't distort the administrator template by billing himself as semi-active when clearly, he is not. But in no way am I discouraging his return. I encourage it, in fact, if he wants to. Felinoel doesn't seem to understand that. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 23:33, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Return? I never left, I just stopped getting involved in discussions, obviously, as I said before, I am not wanted here so I will actually become inactive since that is what I am forced to be labeled as. felinoel ~ (Talk) 23:51, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Return as in return to editing. No-one said that you were not wanted here. No-one here doesn't want you here. I think you just have a grudge against a few people. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 00:07, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Due to popular demand, I shall now leave and make my inactive status correct since it obviously wasn't with me being active and since whenever I change it it gets changed back, that must obviously mean I am wanted to stay away. felinoel ~ (Talk) 01:32, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion is:
felinoel will now actually be inactive.
Please do not edit this discussion.

[edit] Gone (cont.d)

Uh... no, you're not gone. Fail. Chill out, 888 only wanted to make the point of your less than active editing, which we describe by the months between edits. If a new user was to look at the template and see you as 'active' or 'semi-active' then they may want to ask help from you, but due to the fact you don't participate in many votes or discussions anymore you probably couldn't suffice to too much. That template was just to help out people looking for an admin, not to list people who stay close by or read the site. If they messaged you, a response probably wouldn't come too fast, while the others would allow a quicker response due to their activity rate. Don't think for any reason that you are unwanted, or that you aren't needed either. We want you, but if you stay active is your decision. Perhaps you moved on, that is your decision, however we still need to organize our wiki and directing users to more active admins surely would make more sense. There is absolutely no need to fight, but unless you are willing to become/stay active and be a little loud like the rest of us, then we can't mark you anything except 'inactive'. That's how it stands, and I hope you understand. Just remember you are wanted, and we aren't discouraging you at all (even if some words were ambiguous or inefficient), but our level of 'activeness' is high and would require you to make more daily edits to classify. I hope you understand our position. Joey - Talk Contribs 02:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

That would be an excellent point if didn't know what was in the votes and discussions. The fact of the matter is that everytime I post, someone disagrees with me, and then I somehow turn out to be the bad guy, I got tired of that and stopped posting but not stopped coming. After a while I felt like posting again, as I can see now that was a terrible mistake, I will rectify that mistake by this time remembering to turn off notifications of edits being sent to my email, next time I won't get curious and wonder what the edit is and get drawn back here. felinoel ~ (Talk) 04:04, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Like I said, it's up to you. We've grown, and have more contributors here now versus when you 'were editing' and thus have more rules and structures. We want you to stay, but if you don't want to than that is your decision then we won't bother you. If you have gotten tired of Wikis or Wikia or even just the online scene then we respect that and thank you for the effort you have put into our wiki. Thank you. Joey - Talk Contribs 04:47, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
I probably shouldn't post again, but I'd like to reiterate that I want you here, in the clearest terms possible. No-one doesn't want you here. Of course, whether you want to is your decision. However, at the same time, I must abide by the rules. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 09:37, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
I am too busy trying to become a college professor to post and edit as often as I originally did (which was quite a bit), if what I have been doing does not amount to anything at all apparently, I might as well be doing nothing. felinoel ~ (Talk) 05:56, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Good for you (about being a professor). Good luck. Vaznock - Talk 23:02, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

But can you please remove the blacklist (its your choice, but still)? Vaznock - Talk 00:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Please? Vaznock - Talk 21:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I think Energy added a policy that blacklists of other users are forbidden. I'm not sure where or if this was discussed, but I would advise removal of the blacklist or discussing the whole policy with Energy. Cheers, Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 23:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Felinoel, can you please remove the blacklist? This is, as of now, violating policy, and good admins like you should never be in violation, inactive or not. Please replay whenever you can. Vaznock - Talk 00:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Sigh, it is violating policy? Where is this policy it violates? felinoel ~ (Talk) 05:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
That would be our userpage policy. Thanks! Joey - Talk Contribs 05:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry for the slow response, I just got my computer set back up after my move back home, wooo graduated felinoel ~ (Talk) 05:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Congrats and thank you. :) Joey - Talk Contribs 06:07, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, Felinoel. Good luck in your studies, and we hope to still see you on Recent Changes every once in a while. It was in a discussion on IRC where Joey and I discussed forbidding blacklists. If you any questions, just ask me. When I sort of forcefully removed the blacklist on your user page before, I also cleaned up a bit. The section for the Avatar D20 system was irrelevant since the article was deleted a while ago. There is still an external link, but you should probably remove the one for this site, and in the future, have links to pages on this wiki by using square brackets ([[]]). Thanks. --Energybender 14:16, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
I generally do use the brackets but in this case I prefer the URL. felinoel ~ (Talk) 20:42, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Desysoping

Hey Felinoel, we currently have a discussion going on about desysoping inactive admins. As we clear the list, we'd like to know, will you start to edit and perform admin tasks regularly that would benefit this wiki, or will you remain inactive. If the latter, we'll need to remove your rights, but don't please don't take this as an insult or discouragement, we just need people with enough time on their hands to be able to edit regularly. Please tell us if you are going to remain inactive. Thanks! Joey aa 06:30, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

First of all, define "regularly" and second of all, if a page is fine whats there to edit? I see an edit has been made to a pa a fine edit and needs no fixing, yet I get told I am doing nothing? Should I stop bothering to check if it gets the same results? felinoel ~ (Talk) 08:41, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
We're talking about admin tasks, Felinoel. I don't think you've used your additional user rights for many, many months. I know that stuff can be done in that regard. There's always going to be images and articles up for deletion, crappy editors to block... don't worry, you can seek adminship again with our new RfA system if you become more active. This isn't an insult, we're just being more realistic about who we should have as admins on the wiki. And we're not singling you out either - only five admins are keeping their user rights. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 08:44, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Got it, not letting me defend myself, the decision had already been decided, I was just asked as a courtesy hoping that I wouldn't refuse. felinoel ~ (Talk) 08:54, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
That was more or less my fault, but I assumed by your earlier statements that you still read and are current with our discussions that you already would be aware with it. But you must understand, adminship is only for people that will use it. It's not an accomplishment to gain it, nor is it a permanent flag. If you don't use it, you lose it. It's a tool for active users to combat active problems, and is not needed to just edit. An admin has to use their rights/powers to do something that they're suppose to do with it, not just stay quiet and read, or even just edit normally. It may appear that I or others are treating you disrespectful, but you must understand that you can't just hold on to it and expect no one to care. You didn't use it, so you don't have it. Simple as that. Joey aa 09:05, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Felinoel, as Joey (or 888?) said you haven't used your sysop tools for months. You were given them in way that no longer pertains to our wiki's new policy. Doesn't it seem a little power hungry to try to keep something you never use, just for the sake of having it? Vaznock - Talk 16:16, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

So you knew that I already knew about it, and yet you still asked. Sounds to me like you were trying to insult me, thanks. Thank you. Thats very nice of you. felinoel ~ (Talk) 21:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Something's up, and I don't like it. We're trying to be nice to you and ask if you could become active once more but you seem to be taking it personally and making a big deal out of it. We are not making a personal attack or insulting you, so please don't take it like that, it was probably a misunderstanding. if anything, we were poking you since you didn't comment on a discussion relating directly at you. If anything, we were trying to help, so don't take it negatively. Cheers! Joey aa 21:18, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Something's up? Obviously the decision has already been made, and I quote, "Only five admins are keeping their user right." Which means, since I am not one of those five, you aren't asking me anything, you are telling me. And I wasn't in that discussion about myself because everytime I go into a discussion someone starts yelling and then I get blamed and threatened to lose my admin rights, so if I stay in discussions, I lose my admin rights. But now, because I stopped giving others the opportunity to blame me for things thus causing me to lose my admin rights, I am told I will be losing my admin rights for trying to avoid conflict. So if I try to avoid conflict and not get involved in discussions, I lose my admin rights, but if I do stay in discussions, I would have sill lost my admin rights. felinoel ~ (Talk) 21:35, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

That was before, this is now. I trust that you're read the new admin policy. As long as you read that I don't think I'll need to explain the position of administrator. Joey aa 21:38, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

You seem to have a vendetta against us because you imagine that we have a vendetta against you. If you knew the discussion was on, you should have posted there. No-one would have killed you for it. You also seem to have the misconception that this desysopping is permanent. It isn't. If you contribute more frequently (and I have to emphasise, we will not blast you for it, in fact I would gladly welcome it), then of course, you can get admin rights back through the RfA system. If you don't like any change that is going on, say so. We'd much prefer that over you bottling it up inside and getting angry at us when we say that you are inactive.
I acknowledge that what I just said was a bit of a tirade, but I'm pleading with you to understand our intentions - we don't have a vendetta against you, and we are not here to insult you. Please. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 00:06, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay Felinoel, we were asking you, basically, if you were going to start using your tools. If you said yes, and you actually started using them, we likely would of let you keep them. But arguing back wouldn't of made a difference, because you'd have nothing to justify. Trust me, we have nothing against you, or all the other admins that have lost their tools (one of which was the very founder of our wiki). You're a great guy, and I wish you well, but obviously you have more important things going on in your life (becoming a college professor?) so you have little time to use your tools on a wiki that's doing pretty good already. That's all. Vaznock - Talk 00:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Look if you guys choose to side with someone who wanted information on this wiki that was entirely speculation and not at all canon, thats fine, that doesn't mean I think you have a vendetta against me, that means I believe wikis should be entirely canon or at least specify when something is speculation; but as I already stated, it was said that only five of the admins were keeping their rights, and since I was not one of those five, that means it was predecided and I was not being asked anything, I was being told. felinoel ~ (Talk) 08:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Which user are you referring to, exactly? Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 08:32, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Which user am I referring to about what? felinoel ~ (Talk) 13:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Regardless, thats almost as bad was someone stealing and altering my files for this site, without even saying who it was stolen from, thats one of the worst possible things you could do to an artist. The least that could have been done was a little note on the altered, stolen file's page saying who it was stolen from... come on?! felinoel ~ (Talk) 14:30, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Felinoel, Avatar Wiki is licensed under GFDL, so I don't know what you mean by "stealing", especially considering that your work didn't go anywhere off this site. I didn't claim I made it, and also, I didn't put that template there, that was botted. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 14:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
You stole it and altered it, and I never said it was you who claimed it as belonging completely to the show. felinoel ~ (Talk) 14:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Its even of poor quality, I could have used my original files for it and removed the other areas besides the Earth Kingdom for it, but I figured someone would take a picture from the actual show for it and also I had to get this brochure finished so I didn't intervene until now, because I am out of college now, woo graduated! felinoel ~ (Talk) 14:42, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm afraid I don't understand - there is no such thing as "stealing" on a wiki. You agreed to release your work under the terms of GFDL when you uploaded onto the wiki, because you didn't provide any license to go with it. Legally, anyone could do anything they liked to it. Or did I miss something? By the way, congratulations on the college graduation! Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 14:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Altering without consent is considered stealing, just because no one enforces it because everyone does it, it is still stealing, it doesn't matter that it never left the site, especially since I gave that map to multiple Avatar fan sites, especially since you also removed my signature from it. felinoel ~ (Talk) 14:48, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
No license? I put my license on the bottom right corner of the image, until you removed it in the alteration, and now when I try to set the rights correctly on its file article, someone keeps removing it felinoel ~ (Talk) 14:54, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Well, I'm very sorry about all this, but since you provided no legal text that could be taken for a license, my alteration of your image was perfectly legal. I know you gave it to multiple sites, I've seen the map around. If you had set a license there, then I would have respected it. But there was no license, so I assumed (correctly) that I could alter it. Look, I'm very sorry, but legally, I could and so I did. No offence intended, okay? Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 15:02, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Felinoel, it seems you have very little understanding of Wikia's GFDL license to be throwing these ridiculous accusations around. FYI, by submitting any content (writing or images) you give permission to anyone to edit it mercilessly, or delete it completely. And as for your signature, since you are not affiliated with the show's creators (I assume), it would be wise for you to remove your "name" from that copyrighted image. Thanks! And before you claim this is your image – again, no: all characters, likenesses, and indicia are property of Nickelodeon. The map is an indicia. Hope I've cleared that up. ― Thailog 15:10, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

It is labeled as a screenshot, when it is not a screenshot, how many times must I say it is not a screenshot before you fix it? felinoel ~ (Talk) 16:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm not fixing anything until you drop that attitude. ― Thailog 16:16, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
I think I deserve this attitude kept, I get yelled at for not wanting speculation on this wiki, which then person who wanted the speculation then starts flaming me, the owner of the wiki then threatens to ban me because I was getting flamed and he didn't feel like dealing with it, so I stop being noticeable which then causes me to lose my adminship, and then the map I spent weeks or maybe even months straight building and striving to get all the positions correct is having it tried to remove all records of the person who made it by someone calling it a screenshot when it is most undoubtedly not. felinoel ~ (Talk) 16:24, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
I don't give a crap about your feuds. All of that happened before I became a regular contributor, so I'm not going to be the outlet of your resentment. You say you are a college graduate, which puts you in your early 20s. Well, act your age. If you want something from me you need to ask politely. End of discussion. ― Thailog 16:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
There was no reason for editing that page, it was perfectly fine as it was. Hey it seems the problem was I was trying to undo your edit, just fixing it in a new edit works fine. felinoel ~ (Talk) 16:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Post on Forum:Administrative Requests

Your report was rejected because I'm clearly seeing a case of editorial dispute rather than vandalism. I've protected the two images from editing for a day because of counter-productive edit warring. Please resolve all disputes before you continue. Thanks. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 16:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

In no way is that image a screenshot, maybe the horribly pixelated due to improperly resizing and editing edited version is a screenshot, that would explain partially for all the pixelation, but the original is in no way a screenshot. Case closed. felinoel ~ (Talk) 17:03, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Case not closed. And you really need to look at a user's background before you recommend their blocking. Thailog is a highly respected user who has done a lot for this wiki, including the skin. Requesting his blocking because of a dispute is only something brand new and problem users do, definitively not something a former admin would do and should ever do. Vaznock - Talk 19:54, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

No no, I saw that, I just didn't realize that that made him God, my mistake. Thai refused to listen to reason, I tried really hard before I requested his block. felinoel ~ (Talk) 07:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Being in dispute with another editor is not grounds for asking for a block on this wiki. The proper procedure that we've developed in recent times is that you and the editor you are in dispute with must try to resolve a dispute peacefully. If all avenues are exhausted - that is, both you and the editor you are in dispute with agree that you cannot resolve it peacefully and you have already tried to many times - then you post on Avatar Wiki:Arbitration. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 07:34, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Edit warring

Felinoel, the correct procedure if you have a dispute with another editor over which revision of a page should be kept is to discuss this with that editor and with other editors. Edit warring - continually reverting to your preferred revision without any kind of understanding with the opposing party - doesn't help. Could you please discuss this issue with Thailog without resorting to this? You may consult other users if you wish. Thanks, Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 11:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Just come back. --Mattkenn3 Talk 01:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
I would rather not go where I am not wanted. felinoel ~ (Talk) 02:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

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