Welcome to another analysis blog! This one I will be running a little differently. I'm going to start each round 'barren', and you guys can help fill in the missing details and I will update the blog accordingly. I'll participate, but usually after others do.
I'm making this blog as a "Discussion grounds" for a deep look into character morality and choices. Please follow only the rules and discussion laid out in this blog, it will help keep things in order for the analysis to progress. - Are the characters really as moral or immoral as one would think? Did they make mistakes, what was their beliefs or concern when it came to others than themselves?
I am not going to do every character, just ones of larger name/importance. You are welcome to request that I include certain characters in this review blog if you think they should be covered. But please, do so on my talk page and not in the comments. :) (Characters currently not to be covered: Any one-shot character, Ty Lee or Suki)
- I will update this blog to target a character, and then you can comment your thoughts as to that characters morality.
- Please don't discuss other characters until they are brought up here.
- There are bound to be disagreements as these are very in-depth observations. Please don't become angry or insulting. :)
- Discuss with one another the validity of their statements.
- What is their belief on the importance of life?
- Would they have (or have they) killed, or permanently injured/harmed, given the chance?
- If they have made any attempts/successes, cite where and why, please :D
- How do they treat others, morally? (Friends, enemies, strangers..whatever fits)
Wiki Reviewed Characters
If you feel a Wiki review doesn't fit the discussion involved, drop me a message.
|Wikia Members Involved:
, , , , ,
|He appears to be willing to kill on a moment's whim, but usually only if the kill benefits him, otherwise they are not worth his time. When it came to his care for others around him, it was very dominating, selfish and strict. If the person was out of line or acted out in some form that even slightly reflected upon his power, he would stop at nothing to bury the situation to its fullest. He managed others like they were his tools, shaping and molding them to perform his bidding at his every word - with no exceptions, even to his own daughter.
It is likely he once cared for his wife, Ursa, having bore two children by her in their earlier years. After his thirst for power brought his father's, Azulon's, command to kill Zuko - Ursa intervened and concocted a plan with Ozai that would ensure Zuko survived. Taking the fall for killing Azulon, Ursa was banished by Ozai - seen to be at the very least possibly lamenting this ill fated decision while Zuko questioned for his mother's whereabouts. However, this concern did not last. With her out of the picture, and the Fire Lord title now donned, Ozai swiftly become power-hungry and stopped at nothing to ensure every member of the Fire Nation bowed to his authority.
"To Ozai, others are stepping stones. If they will keep him afloat, he will take care of them and make sure that he can continue to use them. If they are not of use to him, but do not harm him, he will let them decay and wither, but will not take action against them. If they will sink him, he will destroy them without pity or remorse. Also, if Ozai believes someone is superior to him in any way, then he will hate them no matter what and will try to destroy them utterly - like Iroh or Aang." -MightyBrit
|Wikia Members Involved:
, , , , ,
|"Toph is inherently selfish, as her defining attribute is her quest for greater strength. The very first time we meet Toph, she's doing Earth Rumble tournaments to show off her strength and part of the reason she travels with the Avatar is to increase her strength. While other people and events are not stepping stones to Toph, they are obstacles to be defeated and lots of her most of her actions can be explained as a removal of an obstacle that is hindering her strength. Even leaving with Aang (at least at first) is her method of defeating the obstacle of her oppressive parents. The metal box she is later trapped in would be a prison for any other character and they'd give up (look at Bumi's imprisonment), but to Toph, it's simply another obstacle and she keeps on hitting it until it bends - that one scene shows Toph's arrogance, stubbornness and desire for strength. It's the one to watch if you want to understand Toph. Of course, this is all possibly due to her blindness and her feeling of inferiority due to it, as seen when Iroh tries to pour her tea and she freaks out about it. She has been told she is weak due to her disability, so Toph sets out to prove the world that they wrong about her." -MightyBrit
"She lived a very secluded life, coming to associate disobedience with love, freedom, and, most importantly, Earthbending. Because of this, she has a natural tendency to lash out and break rules and norms whenever she is in danger or feels threatened. Although she often tries to play down her blindness, in reality it's just another thing that makes her the outsider. She doesn't respond well to feminine affection, so when people try to treat like a girl, she, once again, lashes out. I think that, deep inside, she wishes she were born a boy and with sight, basically her original concept. She has so much inner turmoil inside that she feels a need to run away: From her parents in her childhood, from the Gaang in The Chase, but mostly from her own emotion, and she puts up a tough exterior to avoid having to deal with her mistakes." -TAD
Toph likely takes great value in the lives of her friends; possibly on a level greater than many individuals are capable of. Due to her seismic sense, and "lie detection", she can really feel the lives around her and the emotions they are experiencing. She greatly disdained being hidden from the world by her parents, unable to experience life and friendship freely, this also had a factor in her choice to run away (which she did more than once in her life).
When it comes to Toph's morality regarding taking a life; it's very hazy. She seems to be somewhat amoral in her treatment of her enemies. Typically her tactic appears to be domination, asserting her personality in combat to prove that she is the best Earthbender in the world, and nobody is going to best her at it. This treatment is seen with her combating the Dai Li, trading hard blow for hard blow, slamming the Royal Earthbender Guards into the ceiling without mercy, and she even states this dominance when she leaves Xin Fu and her own childhood Earthbending instructor trapped helplessly in a metal cage. This could very likely have resulted in a very slow death for these two, the thought of which didn't even concern Toph.
|Wikia Members Involved:
, , , , , , ,
|Jet is a man on a mission, self-assured that his actions are undeniably correct. Leading a small group of Freedom Fighters, he instills this belief upon these impressionable children via his charismatic leadership qualities. "His early life was confused and chaotic. As a boy his parents were killed by the Fire Nation, so he took an immediate hatred towards the Fire Nation. This is to be expected, yet Jet took it upon himself to take his revenge so far as to kill any Fire Nation person." -Nathan MirandaHe has a masterful silver tongue; and knows how to use it. This is evident with his initial ploy to Sokka to keep him around longer, his ease at baiting the Avatar's appreciation and of course his making use of Katara's blind infatuation to help his cause. This is also made clear as he kept the two in the dark as to what they were really helping with, even tricking them to believe the Fire Nation elder had attempted to assassinate him."To Jet, anyone who is against the Fire Nation is an ally; anyone who helps them is an enemy. Jet is willing to wipe out an entire village because there are Fire Nation troops stationed there. Never mind the fact that there are women and children in that village; they're Fire Nation and that makes them evil and deserving of destruction. At first, Katara, Aang and Sokka support his hatred for the Fire Nation and he treats them as his friends with respect and kindness. Yet after they make clear they feel he has taken it too far and cease supporting him, they immediately become enemies." "As far as his friends are concerned, he treats them with an attitude suggesting 'you're either with me or against me': There is no middle road." This is clearly shown with his belligerent behavior toward Sokka for defying Jet's assault on an elder. It is further shown when his silver tongue fails him, leading him into a blind rage to keep his new adversaries from halting his plans. "He is so convinced that his assessment of the world is correct that he thinks everyone who doesn't think like he does is crazy." -MightyBrit, Sirius13However; after being left frozen to a tree, time enough to consider his actions, apparently he must have come to some conclusion that Katara in the end was right and lament his behavior. This is shown as he disbanded the Freedom Fighters and traveled to Ba Sing Se to start his life anew, bringing Smellerbee and Longshot. However, try as he might, he could not deny the pain of his youth when learning Zuko's uncle, Iroh, was a Firebender. At first he did his best to keep to his new strategy, desiring to ascertain proof and then simply turn them in to the authorities. This did not last, as he then denied his friends plea for him to cease, instead making this his sole mission before ultimately losing himself to it once again.In doing so, however, he discovered even those who are not Firebenders can carry a dark secret worthy of being his adversary. After recovering his sanity from being brainwashed he attempted to set his wrongs right, aiding Team Avatar in their search for Appa. However his actions led to him receiving a fatal blow that would be his end. Despite the obvious pain he held, he now seemed at peace, seeing Katara's sorrow that he was dying. He consoled her to leave and not worry for him, essentially accepting his fate with a smile, pleased to have in his mind achieved his initial goal of making up for his mistakes. -some InspiredbyKaizuh|
|Wikia Members Involved:
, , , , ,
|At the beginning of the series, Sokka was actually a little like Jet, practically ruled by blind hatred of the Fire Nation. He was suspicious a tiny twelve-year-old was a Fire Nation spy! Of course, he respects life, but he has a loose tongue; or, at least, he tends not to think before he speaks, as was apparent every time he made a sexist remark against his sister or the Kyoshi Warriors. The only one he ever killed consciously was Combustion Man, but that was because he understood that it was either Sparky Sparky Boom Man's death or his and his friends' own. - Sirius13
Sokka is just a simple down to earth kind of guy. He is a huge goof who doesn't mind making fun of others, but can't really take some of his own medicine. He may be smart, but he's still a doofus. This personality of his means that, for the most part, he is a pretty moral guy. He is never shown so much as wounding (beyond what was necessary at the time) anyone in combat (maybe Hahn), yet he shows no qualms about killing a little critter to eat. He is just like most guys his age, easily angered but rarely losing control. He even forgave the man who killed his mother! Although this forgiveness came later, after he got to know Zuko, his earlier anger at the Fire Nation in general was justifiable. In all, he may not be a particularily "spiritual" person, but he is definitely a moral one. -Ragnell Wielder
Sokka is an extremely defensive individual, both to himself and to those around him, exhibited by his wrestling Aang to the ground after he accidently burned Katara. He also cares for his friends -- he is the first one to call for him and Katara to return to Aang in 1.15 despite showing strong anger just moments earlier, because he knew the feeling of being abandoned. He's also rather pig-headed and is eternally convinced that he is right no matter what, even if his "instincts" land him and his friends into deep trouble. He disregards his sister's feelings from time to time (but that's normal between siblings), and he's willing to make a compromise every once in a while. He's also a bit of a xenophobe, which isn't a particularly admirable trait. And, as Chong and his buddies said, Sokka lets the destination get in the way of the journey. When he has a goal, he lets nothing, not even a village full of starving people, stand in his way. - Sirius13, PSUAvatar14
Sokka also has a warrior's mind inside of him. He is the head warrior in the Southern Water Tribe after his father leaves. He is known to be the "planner" for the Gaang, as he is good at strategy. He is also a good fighter. He is the (supposedly) only member of the Gaang to have killed an enemy (Combustion Man). He also attempted to take Azula's life when working in tandem with Zuko at the Boiling Rock, nearly slicing her with his sword or sending her over the edge to the boiling water below. He would and did fight almost every Firebender that he ran into. When Zuko wanted to join Team Avatar, Sokka was very hostile (like Toph and Katara) to let him join the group, until after the fight with Combustion Man when Zuko tried stopping the assassin. - Nathan Miranda, AvatarLover, Vulmen
|Wikia Members Involved:
, , , , , , , , , ,
|When she lost her mother, instead of falling into despair, Katara embraced the role that her mother was supposed to fill. Sokka spells this out very clearly to Toph, admitting that he has trouble remembering his mother's face as he can only ever remember Katara taking care of him. But, as maternal and caring as Katara is, she also has a fearsome dark side that emerges when the people she loves are in danger. There is only one word that can describe all aspects of Katara's personality and that is 'strong.' (-MightyBrit)
Time and time again, Katara has done all she can for complete and utter strangers. Her sense of morality and justice often overrides her common sense, such as in Imprisoned or in The Painted Lady. These sacrifices on her part mean many things - even putting her own life on the line for justice. Now, some people might want to know what this has to do with morality. In 303, she lied to Aang and the others in order to help the village, etc. Because of her motherly and protective nature, she will do anything to save the innocent, the weak, the sick, even if it goes against the immediate plans of the Gaang. (-theavatardemotivator [TAD]) However, though life is incredibly important to Katara, the lives of her friends and loved ones are more important than anyone else's. If it came down a life and death matter for who would survive an event; Katara would choose her loved ones in an instant. An example would be Day of Black Sun - she initially refused to allow her Father and every other supporter to be left behind, but in the end, she left with the Gaang willingly.(-MightyBrit, Moon Beam, PSUAvatar14, Sirius13, Vulmen)
She is dedicated to those close to her and goes to great lengths to protect her loved ones, leading her to hate being defenseless. Katara is very willing to offer a chance for redemption to others, though if that chance is blown, second chances are harder to come by. When it comes to her care for others in general, Katara will be the most lovely person you ever meet until you threaten someone she loves, then she will be an unstoppable force that will only stop when you are no longer a threat.(-MightyBrit, Moon Beam, Sirius13)
She believes all life is important and that the good can be drawn out in people. She even, if just briefly, brought out a good side in Zuko in the Crystal Catacombs. (-Moon Beam, PSUAvatar14) Katara strives to protect those she cares about, whether these be friends or family. Even though she has occasional spats with the group, she loves them all dearly and at the end, they usually have a better understanding of one and other. With strangers, she is usually very kind and tends not to jump to conclusions like her brother. However, if they insult her, her beliefs, or the people she cares about, she will do all she can to bring them to her point of view and makes it clear. With enemies, she can hate them with all the fury in the world. She is extremely suspicious towards them, and is clear to voice her opinion of them. She knows they are out of line, and she lets them know. (-Veerallin)
Katara would hurt someone if it meant protecting someone she loved and she would probably not feel very guilty about it afterwards, likely having her guilt affected by the level of 'evil' she believes her victim to have been. She is willing to seriously harm and kill Zuko if he hurts Aang, actively bloodbends and incapacitates Hama to save Aang and Sokka (though this brings her to tears for doing so), and is ready to take revenge on her mother's murderer - only Aang's influence on her stops her from committing the deed. However, if the situation is absolutely urgent, she would go all-out. (-MightyBrit, MonkeyFudge(And Don't Forget It), PSUAvatar14, Vulmen)