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  • This is a topic me and my friends have discussed thousand of times. Its kind of interesting. The idea of bending/ an even higher level of bending (Theoretically speaking) could/should be the following.


    Earth bending-

    This is basically an ability over Gravity, the ability to use bend things with the frequency of Raw materials like Rocks and etc. Instory, its origin is from Bagermoles iirc. At the fullest extent of power, could an Avatar/Earthbender use their abilities to bend their bones to become lighter, or even attach themselves to earth to defy gravity (e.g somebody is able to walk up a wall with no effort at all.) (This might sound stupid, but its all just theory)


    Water bending-

    At full power, shouldn't an extremely powerfil Water bender be able to bend Air as well? Water is basically Hydrogen and Oxygen, Oxygen is the main gas found in Air. At full power, or even beyond full power, a powerful bender might be able to split the bonds. This might branch out further... What other Elements have Oxy and Hydro in it? A powerful bender might be able to create water through just this.



    I also question why nobody ever further elaborated the potential Blood bending has. A blood bender could easily kill anyone by simply pulling out the water of the person. Remember when Hama revealed shes a blood bender, and pretty much destroyed a nearby tree by pulling out the water? That can also be done to a human, Amon was strong enough to do such an action. If it weren't a show targeted to Kids and Teens, this power would probably be used, or at least discussed much more.



    Fire Bending-

    Combustion man says hi.

    His concept was pure genious, he figured out the true power of Fire Bending; Combustion. Though in my opinion, it was severally limited.

    Can you imagine the level of destructive power that would have reached if he were around during Sozin's Comet? Dang




    Air bending-

    An Airbender might be able to summon winds that rip through your skin. Of course, Air benders might be able to bend Water as well.






    These were probably already discussed/revealed to be false or w.e, but I just wanted to put this out there. Any thoughts?

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    • In the midievals, people thougth that everything in the universe was build of 4 elements,

      water in the seas,blood,...

      The earth with we use to build our castles, farm our corps on,...

      Air, with keeps us alive

      fire, with helps us with warmth,...


      Avatar as serie resolves around the same principle, so saying that water is oxygen and hydrogen would be a paradox, as water is seen as 1 element, a small brick of the universe, not as a building of multiple verry small atoms

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    • Now that you mension it I wonder what would really happen if Sparky Sparky Boom Man was around during Sozin's comet. 

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    • Techieberry38 wrote:
      Now that you mension it I wonder what would really happen if Sparky Sparky Boom Man was around during Sozin's comet. 

      Destruction.

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    • 84.199.108.122 wrote:

      Avatar as serie resolves around the same principle, so saying that water is oxygen and hydrogen would be a paradox, as water is seen as 1 element, a small brick of the universe, not as a building of multiple verry small atoms


      I guess it is just over complicating things.





      But I like them over complicated >:D

      Any body else have something their curious about?

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    • Redhollow wrote:
      Techieberry38 wrote:
      Now that you mension it I wonder what would really happen if Sparky Sparky Boom Man was around during Sozin's comet. 
      Destruction.


      You're right, a lot of destruction. Perhaps enough to devastate villages for miles over. One little kaboomy and lives are lost, homes are destroyed and..... I guess a mini apocalypse happens.

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    • Techieberry38 wrote:


      You're right, a lot of destruction. Perhaps enough to devastate villages for miles over. One little kaboomy and lives are lost, homes are destroyed and..... I guess a mini apocalypse happens.

      I could imagine him pwning the fire lord.



      Again, the concept of Combustion was pure genious.

      Just wanna know the other ones.

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    • Pwning the fire lord. Perfect word for the situation. But what do you mean by the other ones? What are these ones?

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    • The earth's atmoshpere is made up of mostly nitrogen (about 80%), not oxygen which makes up about 20%. And if earthbending is the manipulation of gravity then you'd be able to bend all matter considering that the acceleration of gravity affects all matter not just earth. If anything waterbending is more closely related to gravity because the original waterbenders learned from the moon and the way it manipulated the tides by gravity. And all the elements could easily rip skin off (well I guess fire would burn it off, but that still sucks). I mean have you ever been hit with high pressure water from a fire hose. It can hurt a LOT. Despite all that you have to keep in mind that a scientific approach doesn't apply to this, bending is only possible in this fictional universe. For the benders it's a spiritual experience and their abilities have certain unknown spiritual boundaries. But I like your firbending theory, it's basically just combustion, but how does that translate to lightning generation?

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    • Daft Puma wrote:
      The earth's atmoshpere is made up of mostly nitrogen (about 80%), not oxygen which makes up about 20%. And if earthbending is the manipulation of gravity then you'd be able to bend all matter considering that the acceleration of gravity affects all matter not just earth. If anything waterbending is more closely related to gravity because the original waterbenders learned from the moon and the way it manipulated the tides by gravity. And all the elements could easily rip skin off (well I guess fire would burn it off, but that still sucks). I mean have you ever been hit with high pressure water from a fire hose. It can hurt a LOT. Despite all that you have to keep in mind that a scientific approach doesn't apply to this, bending is only possible in this fictional universe. For the benders it's a spiritual experience and their abilities have certain unknown spiritual boundaries. But I like your firbending theory, it's basically just combustion, but how does that translate to lightning generation?

      Well plasma is just gas or really anything at heating at a really big rate. Well, more can be read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics)#Temperatures

      Lightning is plasma. I'm not sure how they generate it, perhaps they burn Chi? Oxygen? I'm not sure, but its freaking awesome.

      Water is all based on gravity, thats true, but it uses the moon's (weak) gravitational pull, or atleast thats how they learned. Earth lift and move rock. Remember Aang was able to levitate when fighting Ozai, it could have been simple Airbending, but Aang freaking flew, and fast. I'm not sure Air alone was able to make Aang do that, to the extent he did anyway. He could have made the air pressure inside his air dome lighter, or something.

      Earth would not be able to rip skin off (simply anyway), it would have to stab it through; unless it can use gravity to literally make their skin heavier or something. And no I haven't been blasted with a pressurized hose, but I'm 100% sure I wouldn't come out unscratched lml.

      And yeah, I'm probably overthinking it since like a good 80% of bending is spiritual experience, which is why there weren't any Airbender offsprings that couldn't bend air until Aang and Katara had their childrens, before they all bended air.

      Its all really interesting :3 Just because its fictional does not mean it doesn't use some type of logic. Logic applies to everything, you just have to look at it as if you're asking "If it were possible..."


      And one more thing, can anybody imagine if Combustion man were able to use the other Chakras? Because iirc, he only used the third chakra. Assuming that using all of them doesn't result in actual fire bending instead of him blasting explosions with his hand.

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    • Oh so the chakras are these "ones" you mentioned earilier.I guess if he used the other ones, he'd be a huge threat to anyone.

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    • Techieberry38 wrote:
      Oh so the chakras are these "ones" you mentioned earilier.

      Well yes I did mean chakra, but I mainly meant the absolute ultimate forms of each element. I can't just stop at Fire>Lightning right? Theorically it can go so much further.

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    • Fire going further than lightning? Never thought of that. Fire goes to lightning, but where does it go next? Can the other elements do this too?

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    • Techieberry38 wrote:
      Fire going further than lightning? Never thought of that. Fire goes to lightning, but where does it go next? Can the other elements do this too?

      Sure. Combustion is further than fire (or it is in my book anyway)

      You just have to think from a very scientific point, what essentially is said element? Fire is very reliant of Combustion to be born. What could water do? What does water require for its creation? Perhaps puppetry is their ultimate form. Because just the same, not only can they clear chakras, they can also block them completely, such as what Amon did to random victims.


      Oh and the Dai lee have shown evidence that Earth bending uses Gravity, such as when they glue themselves to walls. They used a very dark style of Earth bending, I mean if one of those earth gloves got to somebody's neck, and if they were to clench their fists, they'd die on the spot.

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    • Redhollow wrote:
      This is a topic me and my friends have discussed thousand of times. Its kind of interesting. The idea of bending/ an even higher level of bending (Theoretically speaking) could/should be the following.


      Earth bending-

      This is basically an ability over Gravity, the ability to use bend things with the frequency of Raw materials like Rocks and etc. Instory, its origin is from Bagermoles iirc. At the fullest extent of power, could an Avatar/Earthbender use their abilities to bend their bones to become lighter, or even attach themselves to earth to defy gravity (e.g somebody is able to walk up a wall with no effort at all.) (This might sound stupid, but its all just theory)


      Water bending-

      At full power, shouldn't an extremely powerfil Water bender be able to bend Air as well? Water is basically Hydrogen and Oxygen, Oxygen is the main gas found in Air. At full power, or even beyond full power, a powerful bender might be able to split the bonds. This might branch out further... What other Elements have Oxy and Hydro in it? A powerful bender might be able to create water through just this.



      I also question why nobody ever further elaborated the potential Blood bending has. A blood bender could easily kill anyone by simply pulling out the water of the person. Remember when Hama revealed shes a blood bender, and pretty much destroyed a nearby tree by pulling out the water? That can also be done to a human, Amon was strong enough to do such an action. If it weren't a show targeted to Kids and Teens, this power would probably be used, or at least discussed much more.



      Fire Bending-

      Combustion man says hi.

      His concept was pure genious, he figured out the true power of Fire Bending; Combustion. Though in my opinion, it was severally limited.

      Can you imagine the level of destructive power that would have reached if he were around during Sozin's Comet? Dang




      Air bending-

      An Airbender might be able to summon winds that rip through your skin. Of course, Air benders might be able to bend Water as well.






      These were probably already discussed/revealed to be false or w.e, but I just wanted to put this out there. Any thoughts?

      bone is made from calcium and calcium is a Metal so it should be able to be bend by an extremily powerful metal bender

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    • Redhollow wrote:
      Techieberry38 wrote:


      You're right, a lot of destruction. Perhaps enough to devastate villages for miles over. One little kaboomy and lives are lost, homes are destroyed and..... I guess a mini apocalypse happens.

      I could imagine him pwning the fire lord.



      Again, the concept of Combustion was pure genious.

      Just wanna know the other ones.

      The Fire Lord would just fly around and kill him with lightning, CM is nothing more than a videogame boss: Seems very strong, makes a lot of damage, but you just need to find the weaknesses(agility, his eye and lack of versality).

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    • The Fire Lord would just fly around and kill him with lightning, CM is nothing more than a videogame boss: Seems very strong, makes a lot of damage, but you just need to find the weaknesses(agility, his eye and lack of versality).

      Combustion Man could theoretically redirect lightning if he trained it. Furthermore, he can block all the fire attacks with his own firebending. In close combat, he would win as well because he is... massive.

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    • Quamboq wrote:

      The Fire Lord would just fly around and kill him with lightning, CM is nothing more than a videogame boss: Seems very strong, makes a lot of damage, but you just need to find the weaknesses(agility, his eye and lack of versality).

      Combustion Man could theoretically redirect lightning if he trained it. Furthermore, he can block all the fire attacks with his own firebending. In close combat, he would win as well because he is... massive.

      Combustion Man can 100% not redirect lightning, or will you honestly tell me Iroh trained him?

      He not even showed basic firebending, the only thing he ever rly did was melting paper. So why should he be able to block fireblast from such a strong firebender like Ozai?

      And if Ozai can amp his physicals as much as Azula(volleyball rocket with a kick) would he probably even murder him in close combat. It's more likely then that CM able is to block Ozais blasts, let alone redirection, but i give you that cause it's of course just speculation(although Ozai showed extreme durability).

      So as long as we give Combustion Man no abilitys he don't have, would Ozai still fly around and kill him with lightning.

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    • Combustion Man can 100% not redirect lightning, or will you honestly tell me Iroh trained him?

      He not even showed basic firebending, the only thing he ever rly did was melting paper. So why should he be able to block fireblast from such a strong firebender like Ozai?

      And if Ozai can amp his physicals as much as Azula(volleyball rocket with a kick) would he probably even murder him in close combat. It's more likely then that CM able is to block Ozais blasts, let alone redirection, but i give you that cause it's of course just speculation(although Ozai showed extreme durability).

      So as long as we give Combustion Man no abilitys he don't have, would Ozai still fly around and kill him with lightning.

      Yes I know he couldn't redirect lightning, but he could be able to train it, whereas Ozai can't train Combustion bending. Can he?

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    • Nope, combustion bending requires very specific training throughout your entire life combined with natural ability.

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    • Redhollow wrote:
      This is a topic me and my friends have discussed thousand of times. Its kind of interesting. The idea of bending/ an even higher level of bending (Theoretically speaking) could/should be the following.


      Earth bending-

      This is basically an ability over Gravity, the ability to use bend things with the frequency of Raw materials like Rocks and etc. Instory, its origin is from Bagermoles iirc. At the fullest extent of power, could an Avatar/Earthbender use their abilities to bend their bones to become lighter, or even attach themselves to earth to defy gravity (e.g somebody is able to walk up a wall with no effort at all.) (This might sound stupid, but its all just theory)


      Water bending-

      At full power, shouldn't an extremely powerfil Water bender be able to bend Air as well? Water is basically Hydrogen and Oxygen, Oxygen is the main gas found in Air. At full power, or even beyond full power, a powerful bender might be able to split the bonds. This might branch out further... What other Elements have Oxy and Hydro in it? A powerful bender might be able to create water through just this.



      I also question why nobody ever further elaborated the potential Blood bending has. A blood bender could easily kill anyone by simply pulling out the water of the person. Remember when Hama revealed shes a blood bender, and pretty much destroyed a nearby tree by pulling out the water? That can also be done to a human, Amon was strong enough to do such an action. If it weren't a show targeted to Kids and Teens, this power would probably be used, or at least discussed much more.



      Fire Bending-

      Combustion man says hi.

      His concept was pure genious, he figured out the true power of Fire Bending; Combustion. Though in my opinion, it was severally limited.

      Can you imagine the level of destructive power that would have reached if he were around during Sozin's Comet? Dang




      Air bending-

      An Airbender might be able to summon winds that rip through your skin. Of course, Air benders might be able to bend Water as well.






      These were probably already discussed/revealed to be false or w.e, but I just wanted to put this out there. Any thoughts?

      It has been stated ONLY the avatar can bend multiple elements, Toph  has walked on ceilings, ur points are invalid and dumb

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    • I don't think that earthbenders could bend their bones even thought the human body contains some iron,copper and calcium.The waterbending theory on the other hand had some sense.I think waterbenders could bend the water out of the human body,but the fact that a waterbender can bend air is ridicolous,even thought it made some sense.Firebending theory about combustion and Sozin's comet made perfect sense,but I think everyone knew that before so it isn't very original.And the theory that airbenders can bend water is equaly ridicolous as the theory that waterbenders can bend air.

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      Water is just an amazing and powerful element that if used right can actually cause alot of destruction, and i love the idea that waterbenders  could probably use the water contained in the air, its just so interesting.

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    • I always assumed combustion bending was a hereditary similar to lava bending. Water benders cant bend air but they can bend the water vapor around them example. in the episode before the solar eclipse the water bender navy covered themselves in a mist to hide their ships. the earth benders were able to walk on the walls but it was not because they got stuck to the wall but rather that walls were grabbing on to them.

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    • Combustionbending is suggested to be hereditary, but there's no such indication for lavabending.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Combustionbending is suggested to be hereditary, but there's no such indication for lavabending.

      Wasn't it said by Bryke (not too sure here) that Bolin is able to lavabend because his parents consisted of an earth- and a firebender? While this doesn't make lavabending itself hereditary, the fact that the parents were an earth- and a firebender does suggest the genes play a role in one's bending abilities since earth and fire kind of make sense "adding up" as lava(bending). Actually, didn't Bryke also say in an interview that bending is hereditary / dependent on genes? By that logic, I think, lavabending, as well as combustionbending, are hereditary or could be.

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    • No, that's just a fan theory that keeps cropping up, & it has the slight problem that there's no precedent for it. No other bending technique is known to work this way, & none of Aang's children (for instance) have unique abilities from having an airbender & a waterbender for parents. Really, the beginning & end of the theory is "Bolin has mixed parents, guess that must be why he can lavabend!"

      I mean that specifically lavabending is not hereditary. Combustionbending isn't just a firebending technique that you can learn, it's a special talent that you're born with. As far as we know, lavabending is just a subskill of earthbending, much like metalbending. Metalbending isn't inherited directly, it's just something that's possible if you have the earthbending gene(s).

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