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  • Both of these martieals each contain traces of either water and earth so could a earth or water bender control these substances or are they just like Platinum to refined to be bended

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    • Probably. As long as it's not dry, but trees aren't the most flexible thing in the world.

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    • Essentially, almost eveyrthing contains water if you scale it down to the details. About waterbending, i think they are able to bend mostly "liquid-ish" stuff just like how they are able to do bloodbending, but not bending their bones. As for the glass bending stuff, though call because glass is made out of sand which is also an "earth" substance, but could be like platinum- "fine" material. As mentioned above, wood aren't flexible, unless you extract the water from the trees (lol)

      There are Sandbenders (Sandbender Tribes)  in ATLA afterall, but has been said, that they are only able to bend "loose" sand instead of solid material, so i would doubt that it is possible to bend glass, same goes for wood on waterbenders. :)

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    • I have a question too: if firebending comes from someone's chi could it be possible for someone to use another person's chi to create fire?(I know this question doesn't really fit with the conversation but I was curious)

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    • Lootu: Sandbenders have been shown to create sandstone, & I'm unaware of why glass would be considered any more "purified" than "normal" sand. With metal, you're extracting as many other ingredients as possible to refine the desired "ore," but the fundamental ingredient of glass is chemically the same as the main ingredient of sand, SiO2.

      Simo1102: The ability to transfer chi is the domain of energybending.

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    • Ok thanks

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    • The consensus on different threads for each respective topic was this:

      Glassbending is theoretically possible due to glass being made of sand, therefore making it an extent of sand.

      Woodbending is theoretically possible if there is enough moisture in it, making it simply an extent of plantbending. But like Neo said, wood is not exactly a good element to weaponize, since it can easily be cut, snapped, burnt, or otherwise destroyed by any of the elements, and its rigidity (and relative scarcity) only makes it good for certain weapons.

      In other words, woodbending is fun to theorize about, but in a logical sense, it's pretty much useless.

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    • I think your best bet would be to just rip a tree out of the ground & chuck it at someone. Though if plantbending can be combined with another waterbending technique which can accelerate a plant's growth, then some interesting things might be possible.

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    • s a v e t h e t r e e s

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    • #fuckthetrees

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    • SorcererSupreme21 wrote:
      s a v e t h e t r e e s
      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      #fuckthetrees

      Spirit Vines over the trees

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    • Fine.

      s a v e t h e s p i r i t v i n e s

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    • XD

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    • For woodbending, I remember in another thread discussing how a waterbender may be able to use healing in conjunction with plant/woodbending in order to accelerate a plant's growth which i think would be a really interesting application of woodbending. I remember I also came to the conclusion that woodbending would only be possible for a waterbender with an earthbender mentality since wood is very sturdy like earth, similar to how most people came to the conclusion that lavabending is earthbending with a waterbending mentality.

      For glassbending, I see no reason why it wouldn't work except maybe because it's an amorphous solid(?) idk if that would affect anything and I honestly don't really know what an amorphous solid is, but just something to think about

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    • It might've been me. I came up with something similar for RCR, & I allude to it every now & again, including on this thread. Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of plants in Republic City, so I haven't yet had time to do much with it.

      An amorphous solid is a highly misunderstood phenomena of little real significance. All it really means is that the solid doesn't have a consistent molecular pattern.

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    • I think they can.

      Glass isn't flexible, but neither are rocks so I don't understand people use that as an argument against glassbending. Even if you can't change the shape of glass, you can still use bending to pick it up and move it arounf like with rocks. 

      The same probable goes for wood as long as it's not too dry.

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    • Another interesting question to ponder would be could earthbenders and sandbenders actually make glass? We know, obviously thanks to Ghazan, that earthbenders can affect the temperature of earth, and we know from Aang's fight with Ozai that they can compress earth to make it extremely dense and hard. One scary thought is that by combining sand with lava, an earthbender might potentially be able to make obsidian, which is harder than glass and forms some of the sharpest edges you'll find on the planet.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Lootu: Sandbenders have been shown to create sandstone, & I'm unaware of why glass would be considered any more "purified" than "normal" sand. With metal, you're extracting as many other ingredients as possible to refine the desired "ore," but the fundamental ingredient of glass is chemically the same as the main ingredient of sand, SiO2.

      Simo1102: The ability to transfer chi is the domain of energybending.

      Glass is heated up sand, lava is heated up earth, can everyone bend it?

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    • Glass: Solid-->Solid.

      Lava: Solid-->Liquid.

      False Comparison.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Glass: Solid-->Solid.

      Lava: Solid-->Liquid.

      False Comparison.

      But when sand is heated, the glass starts of moltan until it cools down.

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    • Yes, & igneous rock is lava until it cools down, which doesn't stop earthbenders from manipulating it.

      That's the point, it's really not such a difficult question if you just take a moment to think of the established rules of earthbending. We know they're not limited by rock type (sedimentary, igneous, crystal, etc.), that some variable called "purity" requires specialized techniques to bend refined metal (which we can infer involves having qualities similar to iron, gold, platinum, etc.), & that lavabending is also a specialized technique.

      So take what we know, does it matter that the rock was melted at some point? Clearly not, because again, igneous rock is no problem. What else do we know about lava? It's hot & it's liquid. The heat doesn't seem likely to affect bendability, so there must be something about liquid rock that is difficult for earthbenders to control.

      Now we turn our attention to glass. Does it fit the profile of a "purified metal"? Also clearly not. Is it made of a bendable material? It's just a particular arrangement of sand, which we know to be bendable, so yes. Probable conclusion: Earthbenders could control it just fine.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Yes, & igneous rock is lava until it cools down, which doesn't stop earthbenders from manipulating it.

      That's the point, it's really not such a difficult question if you just take a moment to think of the established rules of earthbending. We know they're not limited by rock type (sedimentary, igneous, etc.), that some variable called "purity" requires specialized techniques to bend refined metal (which we can infer involves having qualities similar to iron, gold, platinum, crystal, etc.), & that lavabending is also a specialized technique.

      So take what we know, does it matter that the rock was melted at some point? Clearly not, because again, igneous rock is no problem. What else do we know about lava? It's hot & it's liquid. The heat doesn't seem likely to affect bendability, so there must be something about liquid rock that is difficult for earthbenders to control.

      Now we turn our attention to glass. Does it fit the profile of a "purified metal"? Also clearly not. Is it made of a bendable material? It's just a particular arrangement of sand, which we know to be bendable, so yes. Probable conclusion: Earthbenders could control it just fine.

      Fair enough

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    • Oh, it seems I put the word "crystal" in the wrong part of my post. I've fixed that now.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Yes, & igneous rock is lava until it cools down, which doesn't stop earthbenders from manipulating it.

      That's the point, it's really not such a difficult question if you just take a moment to think of the established rules of earthbending. We know they're not limited by rock type (sedimentary, igneous, crystal, etc.), that some variable called "purity" requires specialized techniques to bend refined metal (which we can infer involves having qualities similar to iron, gold, platinum, etc.), & that lavabending is also a specialized technique.

      So take what we know, does it matter that the rock was melted at some point? Clearly not, because again, igneous rock is no problem. What else do we know about lava? It's hot & it's liquid. The heat doesn't seem likely to affect bendability, so there must be something about liquid rock that is difficult for earthbenders to control.

      Now we turn our attention to glass. Does it fit the profile of a "purified metal"? Also clearly not. Is it made of a bendable material? It's just a particular arrangement of sand, which we know to be bendable, so yes. Probable conclusion: Earthbenders could control it just fine.

      If metal is only bendable becAuse the grains of Earth glass would be too pure.

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    • There's no "purification" involved in glass making, the only difference between sand & glass is a loss of an orderly crystal pattern in the molecules. It has nothing in common with the process of metallurgic refining, as there's no removal of other substances from a metallic ore. In fact, sand & the form of glass derived from it aren't even metallic at all, they're silicate.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      There's no "purification" involved in glass making, the only difference between sand & glass is a loss of an orderly crystal pattern in the molecules. It has nothing in common with the process of metallurgic refining, as there's no removal of other substances from a metallic ore. In fact, sand & the form of glass derived from it aren't even metallic at all, they're silicate.

      Yes but if that would have been possible it would have happened most likely, not everyone. Can metlabend and it's easier then glass

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    • So, if something didn't happen, we know it's not true? Okay, then feel free to point me to the part where a character says glass can't be bent, that glassbending is harder than metalbending, or an amorphous solid is used to imprison an earthbender.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      So, if something didn't happen, we know it's not true? Okay, then feel free to point me to the part where a character says glass can't be bent, that glassbending is harder than metalbending, or an amorphous solid is used to imprison an earthbender.

       Yes, , it would be hard to bend glass maybe move it around but not bend it that's like bending one grains. If sand surrounded by other purified grains s

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    • That's still wrong, for the reason I already explained to you. Glass is not "purified sand," & even if it were, only metal has been said to be unbendable if it's too pure.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      That's still wrong, for the reason I already explained to you. Glass is not "purified sand," & even if it were, only metal has been said to be unbendable if it's too pure.

      Yes but can infer, could you not?

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    • To love this wrote:
      Both of these martieals each contain traces of either water and earth so could a earth or water bender control these substances or are they just like Platinum to refined to be bended

      Trees use water and also use "sugar" as a food source too. Glass comes from sand, which is made of things like shells and just well... sand!

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