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  • How tall is Tenzin, Kya, and Bumi?

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    • I'm fairly sure Tenzin is taller than Mako—not by a significant margin, but even so—and Mako is supposedly canonically 6'2" (although they allegedly claimed that Korra is 5'7" at the same time, and that doesn't add up in terms of their heights relative to each other on-screen; if Mako's 6'2", Korra would be around 5'5"). 

      So...if Mako actually is 6'2", Tenzin is probably around 6'4".  Sorry I can't offer more help than that.

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    • Korra's clearly shorter than 5'7. 

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    • Deist Zealot wrote:
      I'm fairly sure Tenzin is taller than Mako—not by a significant margin, but even so—and Mako is supposedly canonically 6'2" (although they allegedly claimed that Korra is 5'7" at the same time, and that doesn't add up in terms of their heights relative to each other on-screen; if Mako's 6'2", Korra would be around 5'5"). 

      So...if Mako actually is 6'2", Tenzin is probably around 6'4".  Sorry I can't offer more help than that.

      Avatar Beta wrote:

      Korra's clearly shorter than 5'7

      Well I found this information that would analyze their height.

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    • Well, I don't know where that chart comes from. It seems to me like someone made it assuming that Korra's height is 5'7". Judging from it, I don't see an issue with regards to Mako's height. He's obviously inclining his head in that image, if he stands completetely straight then he'd be close to what the maker has decided is the 6'2" mark. I phrase it like that because they seem to just ignore that you don't get your height measured with your shoes on, & your hair is pressed flat during the measurement. So assuming that the characters' heights are the visible top of their hair makes no sense, except in cases like Ghazan, where it's clearly already lying flat & he has little to no height added from his shoes. As for your comparison between Tenzin, Lin, & Kya, I dunno, without any depth cues how can you be sure both women are standing the same distance away from him?

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Well, I don't know where that chart comes from. It seems to me like someone made it assuming that Korra's height is 5'7". Judging from it, I don't see an issue with regards to Mako's height. He's obviously inclining his head in that image, if he stands completetely straight then he'd be close to what the maker has decided is the 6'2" mark. I phrase it like that because they seem to just ignore that you don't get your height measured with your shoes on, & your hair is pressed flat during the measurement. So assuming that the characters' heights are the visible top of their hair makes no sense, except in cases like Ghazan, where it's clearly already lying flat & he has little to no height added from his shoes. As for your comparison between Tenzin, Lin, & Kya, I dunno, without any depth cues how can you be sure both women are standing the same distance away from him?

      Well these are the information I've found on Tumblr.

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    • I wouldn't trust Tumblr to find water in the ocean.

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    • Avatar Beta wrote:
      Korra's clearly shorter than 5'7. 

      My personal fanon is that Korra, in her teens, was 5'4" and in the habit of insisting that the wolftail counted.  The given height of 5'7" reflects the fact that she grew an inch between the ages of eighteen and twenty-one (which is actually canon), and someone is unaware that she got rid of both the wolftail and the habit of overstating her height.

      ...that, or Bryke—when intending to imply that Korra is of average height as opposed to tiny like a certain percentage of the fandom seemed to believe—threw out an on-the-fly figure that they, as SoCal residents, thought was average.

      Also: if Kyalin happens, I am entirely here for Lin having to tilt her head up slightly to kiss her lady friend.  But, seriously: never go entirely on info that you found on social media; a key individual is invariably either misled or bullshitting.  (And also: that chart gives two different heights for P'Li—a character, it should be noted, whose height has been confirmed on-record.)

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    • They appear to think there's a discrepancy in the models. It might be the case that Blanked P'Li is hunched over & her clothes just obscure it. I say this because this was noted to be something that confused the animators with Book 4 Toph. I will say, while I have some criticisms of that chart, I don't find it entirely unreasonable. Assuming Korra actually is 5'7", given that P'Li is 6'8" (Bryan actually claimed he said "make her like six-eight," but close enough), it seems to scale pretty well. Assuming the general accuracy of that chart, at most I could see Korra being an inch shorter.

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    • He didn't say "like."

      And Korra being 5'7" and Mako being 6'2" still don't add up:  My husband is 6'2".  According to that chart, Ming-Hua (whom, it should be noted, I cosplay—and part of the reason behind that is someone having suggested that I would work that) is actually about a half-inch taller than me.  And while Korra is taller relative to Mako than I am relative to my husband, it's not four and a half inches worth.

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    • Well, I'm not going to dig it up to see whose memory is right. I did fail to notice that they don't have Mako standing on the line, for some reason.

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    • Mako is also both at a weird angle and kind of ducking his head.

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    • I accounted for the head tilt, & I don't see the angle as affecting anything.

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    • Part of why he's not on the line is that he seems to be listing to one side.

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    • If there were consistent depth cues, I'm sure he would seem to be standing straight.

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    • That's just it: the depth cues aren't consistent.  And I don't mean just on the image as a whole; I mean on Mako specifically within the context of that image.  And as a result, he seems to be listing towards the fourth wall (while simultaneously tilting his head away from it).

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    • If he were actually tilted, it would be reflected in his body posture. At the very least, his waist should be bent if he's leaning by any appreciable amount. It's just because the eye has no environmental cues to rest on, or conflicting cues, if you include the other people in the image.

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    • I didn't mean he's leaning, per se; I meant that the perspective is weird.  As in, for an actual human being to be listing like that, he wouldn't be leaning; he'd almost have to be standing sideways on an incline, with the viewer on his downhill side and his head tilted towards his uphill side.  (Also, the creator of that chart even admits that character heights don't always seem to be consistent...and seems to jump to the conclusion that multiple images are all to scale with one another.)

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    • Well, I presume this is a real picture of people, but removed from the ground, the way they're standing looks very strange.

      I did think about the problem of the different sources of the images, though it seemed to me that Korra/Mako were pulled from 1 location, the Red Lotus pulled from another, & so comparison within groups should be possible. As for between groups, I'd have to go through the series & see how well that reflects their onscreen relative heights.

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    • Even out-of-context, none of them look as skewed as Mako does on that chart.

      And they were from two different sources.  Korra and Mako are from that "New Friends" image (companion piece to the "Old Friends" one which is infamous for twentysomething Zuko looking like an alien); the jailbreak!minibosses are from concept art that was first shown at SDCC and can be seen in the art book.

      Even on-screen, their heights are slightly inconsistent.  (There was apparently a recurring belief among the fandom, for quite a while, that Bolin was either shorter than Korra or taller than Asami.  Enough said.)

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    • And they were from two different sources. Korra and Mako are from that "New Friends" image (companion piece to the "Old Friends" one which is infamous for twentysomething Zuko looking like an alien);

      That's what I figured, though I actually have no idea what you're talking about.

      Even on-screen, their heights are slightly inconsistent. (There was apparently a recurring belief among the fandom, for quite a while, that Bolin was either shorter than Korra or taller than Asami. Enough said.)

      I thought Asami was shorter than Korra, does that really prove anything other than that people can be bad judges of relative dimensions? Which is basically my thought on the whole Mako thing.

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    • The "Old Friends" and "New Friends" group pictures were released (IIRC) at the Comic-Con before Book 2.  (Come to think of it: the images on the chart are actually from three different sources.  The image of P'Li with the sidecut is from this character design reference.)

      It at least suggests that there's some degree of inconsistency (somewhat to be expected even from a studio as good as Mir).  And also, that it was fairly rare for some characters to be positioned in such a way that we could get a good look at their relative heights.  (Case in point: the chart positing that Kya is taller than Lin—cute though the idea may be to someone who casually 'ships them—is using an image in which Lin is quite clearly further away from the camera as a reference.)

      Also: I looked up that last image (which puts Tenzin at the same height as Mako and puts Korra at 5'5").  Turns out it's from Heather Campbell, for whatever that's worth.

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    • The "Old Friends" and "New Friends" group pictures were released (IIRC) at the Comic-Con before Book 2.

      Then I don't see what's odd. In context, the way Mako is standing is perfectly normal, & as for Zuko, he looks a lot like a younger version of his dad.

      It at least suggests that there's some degree of inconsistency (somewhat to be expected even from a studio as good as Mir).

      Well, maybe, since they have to redraw the characters, & it isn't the same model being moved around. But I don't think the fact that fans were confused necessarily implies that there was any inconsistency, any more than the fact that I didn't notice this alleged inconsistency proves it doesn't exist. Absent of evidence, one's perspective only bears witness to what they believe they saw.

      (Case in point: the chart positing that Kya is taller than Lin—cute though the idea may be to someone who casually 'ships them—is using an image in which Lin is quite clearly further away from the camera as a reference.)

      Right, I said that.

      Also: I looked up that last image (which puts Tenzin at the same height as Mako and puts Korra at 5'5"). Turns out it's from Heather Campbell, for whatever that's worth.

      If I could figure out how you found that out, it might be pretty compelling.

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    • That's because, although there's only the barest suggestion of a "floor" in the "New Friends" image, Mako does appear to be standing on a slight incline. It's like everyone's on top of a low rise. 

      And it wasn't whether or not Zuko looks like his dad; it was that his whole facial structure looked "off" to at least a significant percentage of people.

      I follow Heather Campbell's blog, and thought that it looked familiar.  So I did some minor sleuthing and found it in the middle of a sketch dump post.

      She does seem to have admitted that it's guesswork on her part, but even so: it's the most recent word on character heights from anyone directly involved with the franchise (she did "Friends for Life" and the two "Turf Wars" covers we've seen so far; and still media is a lot less forgiving when it comes to discrepancies like that).  And based on the panels we've seen so far, Irene Koh also seems to be going with the idea that Korra is of average height.  (Most of the time, anyway.  We don't have much in the way of both badass girlfriends on the same footing yet).

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    • True. In the Old Friends Poster, Katara is also leaning into Aang's side a bit, and Sokka has his head tilted back.

      I thought Zuko looked a bit more like snake, haha. It was a little..... too sleekly defined, even for him. Still love him though. Come to think of it, when do you think that portrait was taken?

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    • Master Earthbender8 wrote:
      True. In the Old Friends Poster, Katara is also leaning into Aang's side a bit, and Sokka has his head tilted back.

      I thought Zuko looked a bit more like snake, haha. It was a little..... too sleekly defined, even for him. Still love him though. Come to think of it, when do you think that portrait was taken?

      Yeah, a bunch of people were saying "alien" and "lizard man" and things like that, on the grounds that his face looked flat and streamlined to a degree that invoked the uncanny valley.  And they look maybe mid-twenties to me.

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    • I really love how he and Sokka are the closest.

      He is trying to keep a poker face because newborn Izumi is unhappy the portrait is keeping Daddy away so long.

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