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  • Personally, I feel Team Avatar's secondary goal should have also been to slowly find allies to build an organized resistance to bring hope (and said rebellion would be ready by the time they learn about the eclipse). It would have been awesome if Sokka wrote a written declaration to the Fire Lord, both to push back the Fire Nation notion that they are terrorists, but also as a middle finger to the Fire Lord to show they won't take his tyranny. I think the Declaration would go like this:

    我們,團隊的阿瓦塔爾,

    今天將這項宣言送交烽火勳爵陛下和每個國家的所有人民,以表明這一運動的所有意圖。

    我們承認政府和秩序的重要性和必要性。

    我們認為,所有國家都必須對這些政府作出妥協,為所有人實現和平,平衡,繁榮和福祉。

    我們認為統治者應該根據被管轄者的同意行使權力。我們認為,如果自由人民的權利被故意和惡意地奪,那是所謂人民改變或推翻這種秩序的不可否認的權利。

    我們認為,火國家惡意地,故意地奪了世界自由人民的權利,因此,我們的根本權利是取消對它所受國家的統治。

    統治者不應該因為輕微的,可忽略的問題而改變,但是當統治者顯示奪,虐待和道德暴行的歷史時,顯示一個明確的設計來完全和完全地征服出生的自由,我們的義務 - 的統治者。

    火國帝國的歷史是重複,卑鄙的戰爭和錯誤的對象,直接的目的,建立你,火勳爵Ozai和你的祖先作為對霸權在世界上:

    你和你的前任已對地球王國人民實行公然的種族主義政策,並對空中游牧民和南部水部落實行種族滅;

    你推翻了被選中的村莊和省的領導,用你選擇的州長代替他們;

    你沒有徵得他們的同意,就徵稅和提高工作配額;

    你殺害和監禁數百萬人,沒有審判權;

    你非法取得土地和財產;

    你已經耗盡了你的軍隊遠遠超出了必要的資源,只是為了壓迫你的科目。

    因此,我們,和平與平衡管理者以這個世界的自由人的名義和權力發表和宣布我們的意圖:

    通過任何一切必要的手段打擊和反對你和你的部隊;

    拒絕任何違反自由人民權利的法律和法令;

    使你的政權沉積和毀滅;

    永遠釋放所有的人在世界上。


    為了這些結束,我們祈禱我們的榮譽,尊嚴和我們的生活。

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    • Here's a Google Translation. I was too lazy to bother to reword anything, so here ya go.


      We, the team of Avatar,

      Today, this Declaration is sent to His Majesty the Lord of the Flames and to all the peoples of every country to show all the intentions of this movement.

      We recognize the importance and necessity of government and order.

      We believe that all countries must compromise with those Governments in order to achieve peace, balance, prosperity and well-being for all.

      We believe that the ruler should exercise his power according to the consent of the person who has jurisdiction. We believe that if the rights of free peoples are purposely and maliciously usurped, it is the undeniable right of the people to change or reverse this order.

      We believe that the fundamental right of the State of fire to maliciously and deliberately usurp the rights of the free peoples of the world is to abolish the rule of the State to which it is subjected.

      Rulers should not be changed for minor, negligible problems, but when rulers show a history of usurpation, abuse and moral brutality, a clear design is shown to completely and completely conquer the freedom of birth, our duty - ruler.

      The history of the Empire of Fire is a repetition of the despicable wars and the object of error, the direct purpose of establishing you, Lord Fire Ozai and your ancestors as absolute hegemony in the world:

      • You and your predecessor have imposed a blatant racist policy against the people of the earth kingdom and have imposed genocide against the air nomads and southern water tribes;
      • You overthrow the chosen villages and provincial leaders and replace them with the governors you choose;
      • You do not have their consent to levy taxes and raise work quotas;
      • You have killed and imprisoned millions of people without jurisdiction;
      • You illegally acquire land and property;
      • You have exhausted your army far beyond the necessary resources, just to oppress your subjects.

      We, therefore, peace and balance managers, publish and proclaim our intentions in the name and power of the free men of this world:

      Through any means necessary to combat and oppose you and your troops;

      Refuse any laws and decrees that violate the rights of free people;

      So that your regime deposition and destruction;

      Always release all the people in the world.

      To these ends, we pray for our honor, dignity and our lives.

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    • Wow, that is a woeful translation. The chinese translation was from a document I wrote up. Since people write in Chinese Characters in the series, the Chinese text is what the characters would see. When translated back to English, I forgot that it would be woefully inaccurate. Here's what it's supposed to say:

      WE, THE COMRADES OF THE AVATAR,

      do this day send forth this Declaration to His Majesty the Fire Lord, and to all peoples of every nation, to make clear all the intentions of this movement.

      We acknowledge the importance and necessity of governments and order.

      We address that all must make compromises to those Governments, in return for peace, balance, prosperity, and well-being for all.

      We believe that rulers should exercise their power in accordance with the consent of those governed. We believe that, should the rights of free people be willfully and maliciously usurped, it is the undeniable right of said people to alter or overthrow said order.

      We believe that the Fire Nation has maliciously and deliberately usurped the rights of the free people of the world, and therefore, it is our fundamental right to abolish its rule over the nations subjected to it.

      Rulers established should not be changed for minor, negligible problems, but when rulership displays a history of usurpation, abuse, and moral atrocity, displaying a clear design to subjugate totally and completely people born free, it is our right—our duty—to depose of that ruler.

      The history of the Fire Nation Empire is of repeated, despicable wars and wrongdoings upon its subjects, with the direct purpose of establishing you, Fire Lord Ozai, and your forefathers as absolute tyrants over the world:

      You and your predecessors have instituted a policy of blatant racism against the peoples of the Earth Kingdom as well as enacting genocide against the Air Nomads and Southern Water Tribes;

      You have overthrown the chosen leaders of villages and provinces, replacing them with governors of your choice;

      You have levied taxes and raised work quotas without the consent of those subject to them;

      You have murdered and imprisoned millions without the right to trial;

      You have unlawfully taken land and property;

      You have exhausted resources for your armies far beyond what is necessary, for the sole purpose of oppressing your subjects.

      We, the Stewards for Peace and Balance do therefore in the name--and by the power--of the free people of this world, publish and declare our intentions:

      To fight and oppose you and your forces, by any and all means necessary;

      To refuse any laws and decrees contrary to the right of free peoples;

      To bring about your deposition and destruction of your regime;

      To make forever free all people in the world.

      TO THESE ENDS, WE PLEDGE OUR HONOR, DIGNITY, AND OUR LIVES.


      Cue Ozai getting mad.

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    • That's a pretty good idea, although it sounds like the sort of letters Amnesty sends.

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    • Yeah, then again, maybe Hakoda is the type of character who would write this sort of thing.  

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    • While we're on the topic, I also think it would've been awesome (and funny) if Aang and his friends vandalized Fire Nation propaganda posters in the Earth Kingdom and also placed their own propaganda to encourage Earth Kingdom citizens to resist Fire Nation rule.  

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    • Such posters would obviously be removed immediately in any Fire Nation-controlled area, and anyone who was brave and/or foolish enough to put those posters up in the first place would be imprisoned on the spot.

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    • SorcererSupreme21 wrote:
      Such posters would obviously be removed immediately in any Fire Nation-controlled area, and anyone who was brave and/or foolish enough to put those posters up in the first place would be imprisoned on the spot.

      Not the members of the Rebel Alliance. They've done it many times and more or less haven't gotten imprisoned. Why? Because the Empire's armies have better things to do. If it were graffiti, they can't remove that.  

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    • I think someone took a wrong turn for Wookieepedia.

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    • I'm saying if the Rebel Alliance (or any resistance group) can do it, I don't see why Aang and his friends can't. 

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    • Slight problem: The Gaang is trying to keep a low profile.

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    • It's a bit too late for that. Their actions at the North Pole already attracted attention from the highest levels of the Fire Nation

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    • Firstly that's not until the end of Book 1, secondly they return to the same strategy in Book 3, & thirdly even when the Fire Nation is after them, they don't want to make it easier to track them, & committing petty crimes in areas the Fire Nation formerly had under control would raise suspicion.

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    • When participating in a revolution, there's always the tradeoff involving the risk of being caught when you want to spread hope to gain sympathizers. For the revolutionary, it's worth the risk. Why do you think the Fire Nation doesn't really try to kill them? Apart from the fact that Aang is the Avatar and can reincarnate, killing the other members of Team Avatar will only make them martyrs, and for the Fire Nation, that's not good.  Plus, after a certain point, the Fire Nation already knew how stubborn Team Avatar is, so taking the direct approach isn't going to cut it for the Fire Nation. 

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    • The Fire Nation forces they encounter do try to kill them. They don't send huge forces after them because Team Avatar has never been their highest priority, hence why Azula ditches them to lay siege to Ba Sing Se. They don't care about "martyrs," they've already ransacked dozens of communities. The time to worry about upsetting the populace had long since passed.

      Also, that would be a valid argument...if their main goal was to spread a resistance. In fact, it was to find trainers for Aang, everything else they did was a side project, in terms of the overall plan. Further, almost none of them were taken for pragmatic reasons, but rather because they empathized enough with the people there to put their plans on hold. To freely move Aang to a place where he can find teachers, it's more effective to not arouse suspicion.

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    • Of course they would worry about martyrs. Remember what happened during the war meeting--Zuko discussed that the Earth Kingdom people won't give up as long as they have hope, showing that the spirit of rebellion remained strong and stubborn, even with the Avatar seemingly dead. In a way, the Avatar DID become a martyr, and that didn't fare well with the Fire Nation forces in the Earth Kingdom. Who says their secondary goal shouldn't have been to spread resistance, as in second to helping Aang master the elements? They would've been the voice of resistance, while everyone else would do the rest and follow in their example. It's not much, all they just need to do is let people know that fighting the Fire Nation is possible. Yes, Team Avatar knows how important it is to help Aang master the elements, but they never lose sight of the bigger picture. Even Katara makes it clear that no matter what, they cannot turn their backs on people, and they still need to fight the Fire Nation for those who couldn't. Someone has to do something about the injustice and terror the Fire Nation was spreading. This rhetorical question always comes up--"if we don't stand up, who will?"  Without hope, we have nothing. 

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    • As another kind of propaganda, it would've also been awesome if Katara delivered a speech to the people in an Earth Kingdom village, and had it transcribed and spread throughout the Earth Kingdom, then there could be montages of readers reciting Katara's transcribed speech. It would go like this:

      "We have been called criminals, but we're not. We are here to restore balance, fighting for the people, fighting for you. I'm not that old, but my grandmother spoke of times where there was peace between all nations, and life was better for all of us. Maybe not great, but never like this.  See what the Fire Nation has done to your lives, your family and freedom? It's only going to get worse, unless we stand up and fight back. It won't be easy; there'll be loss, and sacrifice, but we can't back down just because we're afraid — that's when we need to stand the tallest. Stand up together, because that's when we're strongest: as one!"

      A speech like that could turn the tides.

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    • Of course they would worry about martyrs. Remember what happened during the war meeting--Zuko discussed that the Earth Kingdom people won't give up as long as they have hope, showing that the spirit of rebellion remained strong and stubborn, even with the Avatar seemingly dead.

      You remember Ozai's response to that? It was "burn 'em all." Ozai's politics aren't about taking the soft approach to avoid resistance, if resistance springs up, Ozai's reaction is to just keep hitting it harder until it's destroyed. The politics that defines the Fire Nation's military is using rapid, overwhelming force to destroy the opposition.

      In a way, the Avatar DID become a martyr, and that didn't fare well with the Fire Nation forces in the Earth Kingdom.

      I'm not so sure about that, but either way, this is the fallacy of consequences. Even if Aang's apparent "death" DID galvinize people & contribute to the downfall of the Fire Nation, it doesn't follow that the Fire Nation was afraid this would happen. In fact, obviously they weren't, or Azula wouldn't have tried to strike down Aang & Zuko wouldn't have been praised by Ozai for supposedly being the one who did it.

      Who says their secondary goal shouldn't have been to spread resistance, as in second to helping Aang master the elements?

      Because mixing competing strategies doesn't actually make them stronger, it actually weakens both. Say they're in an area for a few days. It can't be longer than that, because Sozin's Comet arrives at the end of the year, & they need to make sure they have enough time for traveling & training.

      Maybe they might get lucky here & there, but most of the time, that's just not going to be enough time to raise a strong resistance. But it's plenty of time for their supplies to run low. They've barely accomplished anything in the B Plan & have caused a huge setback to their A Plan. But in a way, it's actually luckier that they failed, because at least the Fire Nation won't call in more reinforcements that will make it harder for them to get around.

      To put it another way, it's like if you're playing baseball & you decide it's a good plan to have a bat in both hands, because that'll give you twice as many chances to hit a home run! Well, no, it's not a good idea, there's a reason pro baseball players don't do this. In reality you just lose most of your accuracy & swing each bat with less than half force. It is actually better just to put all of your resources into just 1 bat, it maximizes your chance of success.

      They would've been the voice of resistance, while everyone else would do the rest and follow in their example. It's not much, all they just need to do is let people know that fighting the Fire Nation is possible.

      No, it's not that simple. You can't just tag a few posters & cause a rebellion to spring up. It requires meeting with community leaders, exchanging plans, giving them any training they might need but not have, knowing how this will all be organized without being caught, finding out who can be trusted. It takes time & it takes effort.

      Yes, Team Avatar knows how important it is to help Aang master the elements, but they never lose sight of the bigger picture. Even Katara makes it clear that no matter what, they cannot turn their backs on people, and they still need to fight the Fire Nation for those who couldn't.

      Which, as I said, was not an argument from pragmatism. You could make the argument that they "should" do it regardless of the consequences, but from a strategic standpoint, it's not a good plan.

      Someone has to do something about the injustice and terror the Fire Nation was spreading. This rhetorical question always comes up--"if we don't stand up, who will?" Without hope, we have nothing.

      There's also the saying, "Those who fight & run away live to fight another day." It might not feel good to have to strategically retreat from a situation, but in the long run, losing the battle might mean winning the war. As opposed to the possibility of trying to help everyone & winding up helping no one.

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    • I believe when Zuko joined them, he's probably going to ask about the meaning of this. Right?

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    • Bersarker wrote:
      I believe when Zuko joined them, he's probably going to ask about the meaning of this. Right?

      Why would he? He'd pretty much agree with everything in the declaration about his father.  

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    • Torresp wrote:
      Bersarker wrote:
      I believe when Zuko joined them, he's probably going to ask about the meaning of this. Right?
      Why would he? He'd pretty much agree with everything in the declaration about his father.  

      But isn't he a member of the royal house of Fire Nation? I mean how can a prince take this well, right?

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    • Bersarker wrote:

      Torresp wrote:
      Bersarker wrote:
      I believe when Zuko joined them, he's probably going to ask about the meaning of this. Right?
      Why would he? He'd pretty much agree with everything in the declaration about his father.  

      But isn't he a member of the royal house of Fire Nation? I mean how can a prince take this well, right?

      Haven't you seen Book 3? He'd agree with all these points. He knows what the fire nation has done is spread fear. By book 3, he wants freedom from the Fire Nation as much as the next person. I don't see a single point he'd disagree with.

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    • Torresp wrote:

      Bersarker wrote:

      Torresp wrote:
      Bersarker wrote:
      I believe when Zuko joined them, he's probably going to ask about the meaning of this. Right?
      Why would he? He'd pretty much agree with everything in the declaration about his father.  
      But isn't he a member of the royal house of Fire Nation? I mean how can a prince take this well, right?
      Haven't you seen Book 3? He'd agree with all these points. He knows what the fire nation has done is spread fear. By book 3, he wants freedom from the Fire Nation as much as the next person. I don't see a single point he'd disagree with.

      How the time of the aftermath, will he still agree on this after the end of the war? I don't think anyone if the Fire Nation

      can this well after they surrender willingly because I highly doubt that the protests from the other peoples will stop

      immediately after the war.

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    • No offence, but your grammar is poor and you are still not making any sense.  

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    • Sorry. English is not my first language and I forgot to check thing before I have it posted.I missed the 'about' and

      the 'take'. And no full-stop button between willingly and because. And do you want me to fix it or left it like that?

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