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  • Most of us have eagerly anticipated it - the The Legend of Korra - comic trilogy!

    After more than a year of radio silence, we've finally got some information about the Korra - comics!

    Granted, some of the info is old and it isn't a lot but it's still better than nothing. This thread should serve as a place in which we all can discuss the comic as it is still in the works - it can be anything; news (whether here or in this thread), plot or what you wish to see.

    I don't know about you guys, but I am definitely excited for Turf Wars and it cannot come soon enough.

    Here's a summary of all the info we've got so far:

    • The official title for the comic series is Turf Wars
    • Turf Wars is going to be a trilogy which will pick up the story right after where it left off in the finale

    Description from Dark Horse: "Turf Wars begins with Korra and Asami leaving the spirit world and returning to Republic City only to find political hijinks and human vs. spirit conflict, as a pompous developer plans to turn the new spirit portal into an amusement park, potentially severing an already tumultuous connection with the spirits. In addition, the triads have realigned and are in a brutal brawl at the city’s borders where hundreds of evacuees have relocated. In order to get through it all, Korra and Asami vow to look out for each other—but first, they’ve got to get better at being a team."

    (Source: http://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/2420/nycc2016-legend-korra-returns-graphic-novel-turf-w)

    • The official release date of the first issue will be in June 2017
    • Michael Dante DiMartino stated in an recent interview that Mako&Bolin are going to be heavily involved
    • He also stated the script for the second issue has been written (if I got that right)
    • Among interviews he did an AMA on reddit.com where he teased at a possible return to the Fire Nation in the future Korra comics
    • In addition we'll likely see other LGBT characters in the Korra comics

    (Source: https://www.reddit.com/user/Mike_Dante_D)

    • We'll also get to know more about the characters in the comics
    • He confirmed that Kuvira is NOT going to appear in Turf Wars but that we might get to see more of her in the future as she's "still around"
    • EDIT: It was confirmed at NYCC that the villain is going to be a woman
    • EDIT: Panel shots of the comic had been released at NYCC
    1. See here
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    • Bolin and Mako are partners in the police force and are gonna deal with a special task from Lin

    (Michael's interview on hypable: http://www.hypable.com/rebel-genius-hypables-qa-michael-dante-dimartino/)

    So that's all the info for now. I'll make sure to add something in case I forgot another info.

    What are your thoughts on Turf Wars so far?

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    • Wow, I thought I had the inside scoop by being the first to post the title & release date information on the board, but this puts me to shame. How did I miss all of this shit?

      Among interviews he did an AMA on reddit.com where he teased at a possible return to the Fire Nation in the future Korra comics

      Me gusta.

      In addition we'll likely see other LGBT characters in the Korra comics

      So we're finally going to get some questions answered on this subject? God damn, finally.

      He confirmed that Kuvira is NOT going to appear in Turf Wars

      YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!! FUCKING IMMEDIATE 10 OUT OF 10!!!!

      but that we might get to see more of her in the future as she's "still around"

      OR...or...she could die in prison, preferably horribly, & we could never speak of her again.

      Bolin and Mako are partners in the police force and are gonna deal with a special task from Lin

      That's...I guess that's interesting. I would have preferred Bolin to be doing something separate from his brother, perhaps in the United Forces or something, but I can understand why it's convenient to a narrative to keep them together.

      Well, as I said on the updates thread, I'm pretty excited but I was hoping for something "bigger" than the summary so far suggests. Also, the comics so far HAVE been pretty hit & miss, but the upshot is that Mike is writing this one directly, so maybe that'll change some things.

      Edit: Oh yeah, I was also hoping to actually SEE their adventures in the Spirit World, but so far no word on that.

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    • I am excited! My only complaint is that they make it sound like immediately after the conclusion of Book 4, this chaos begins. I know evil is never going away, but it'd be nice for them to breathe for a second lol. Still excited though! :)

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    • I feel like, as a writer - to - be of Avatar fanfiction, I don't like how Bolin is immediately only focused in Republic City. I understand how Republic City is supposed to be the NYC of the Avatar universe, but there needs to be more problems and coverage around the world. 

      For example, Bolin could head the global police force and have Opal by his side, you could have airbenders doing missions around the world, and Korra just doing her own thing (not that, you know, it pertains to my fanfic, not at all). 

      I really like Mako being individualistic in Republic City, but focusing too much on there kind of cramps up the space with heroes. You might want to spread them out a bit. 

      Aside from that, I think it looks like a great idea. It might be the first comic I read, since I stupidly came to the forums before reading the comics and now they're ruined. 

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    • I feel like I want to have low expectations for the title because it is the first one and may simply be a way for Michael to improve on the media. I don't recall him ever doing comics. Plus, the idea that Kuvira is "still around" is very interesting for later arcs.

      The description isn't something that excites me. When hasn't Asami and Korra done well on a team? I don't remember any particular problems they had. Asami was essentially always a support character that functioned well with every one. Seems a bit like a manufactured problem than anything that stemmed from the show. Not to mention the whole Bolin and Mako partner idea (maybe it's just an inside joke from Lin? and could be hilarious, if not intentional).

      The spirit issue might be interesting but right now it just seems like another 'humans are bad' plot thread. The triads might also be worth it if​ they add air benders to one or several of them. I guess it comes down to the usual we'll see how it turns out.

      The art looks fantastic and that's the thing I'm mostly excited for.

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    • The underlying theme of the plot makes sense as the triads hold territories all over Republic City. The Triple Threat Triad' s territory was the downtown area, and it was destroyed in the explosion of the Spirit Wilds. Therefore, it seems logical that there would be a sudden shift in the power structure.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Wow, I thought I had the inside scoop by being the first to post the title & release date information on the board, but this puts me to shame. How did I miss all of this shit?.

      Edit: Oh yeah, I was also hoping to actually SEE their adventures in the Spirit World, but so far no word on that.

      Sorry to disappoint you.

      We are going to get one or two panels of the Spirit World right before they step out of the portal (source. Michael's interview with hypable).

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    • Kubernes wrote:

      The art looks fantastic and that's the thing I'm mostly excited for.

      Well, the thing is that the artist of the cover art is not the same as the one that's responsible for the art in the actual comics. As the most know now, Brittney Williams dropped out for some reason and has been replaced with Irene Koh (big LOK fan btw) who's going to do the line art. Heather Campbell, whose art can be seen throughout the free comic "Friends For Life", will be responsible for the cover art only.

      It's kind of strange that they didn't mention that there are actually two people for the art. We know that Heather Campbell will be on board but Irene hasn't been strongly mentioned although it's her sort of big debut. It'd be nice if we got some shots of her work at the panel to get an first impression. (Or you can check out her Twitter account for yourself as she's posting fanart of LOK)

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    • Kubernes wrote:
      [...]

      The description isn't something that excites me. When hasn't Asami and Korra done well on a team? I don't remember any particular problems they had. Asami was essentially always a support character that functioned well with every one. Seems a bit like a manufactured problem than anything that stemmed from the show. Not to mention the whole Bolin and Mako partner idea (maybe it's just an inside joke from Lin? and could be hilarious, if not intentional).

      [...]

      Well, Michael said there will be a few "bumps" and "awkward moments" between/for them, but nothing dramatical. I've been surprised as well when I read the description but it makes sense, actually. They just found out about their feelings for each other and right after they enter out of the portal, they'll be confronted with the new issue.

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    • Korra2000 wrote:

      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Wow, I thought I had the inside scoop by being the first to post the title & release date information on the board, but this puts me to shame. How did I miss all of this shit?.

      Edit: Oh yeah, I was also hoping to actually SEE their adventures in the Spirit World, but so far no word on that.

      Sorry to disappoint you.

      We are going to get one or two panels of the Spirit World right before they step out of the portal (source. Michael's interview with hypable).

      Do you have a timestamp on that? The thing is almost an hour long.

      Also, that's rather lackluster.

      Re: The description: My guess is that someone in Dark Horse decided what the blurb should say.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:

      [...]

      Do you have a timestamp on that? The thing is almost an hour long.

      Also, that's rather lackluster.

      Re: The description: My guess is that someone in Dark Horse decided what the blurb should say.

      Um, I think he began talking about the comics around 30 minutes? (I've watched the whole thing, so yeah..)

      Actually, I like the description from DH more than the other one we got but that's just my opinion.

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    • Im glad, but not eager the way Im waiting for TLA. Im mean, Aang story is a big long story and you really like the characters, but Korra be like endless fighting

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    • I hope the Red Lotus returns.

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    • Is Aang family going to be on this one?

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    • Avatar Beta wrote:
      I hope the Red Lotus returns.

      It's very unlikely that the Red Lotus will return in this one.

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    • Doratchi wrote:
      Is Aang family going to be on this one?

      I hope so! (Michael didn't talk about the comic too much) I can imagine that Tenzin (and Jinora perhaps) will help Korra in dealing with the spirits issue. I'm sure Korra might seek advice from Tenzin as he's always been her go-to - person. Personally, I hope that a future comic series will focus on the new Air Nation.

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    • Korra2000 wrote:

      Doratchi wrote:
      Is Aang family going to be on this one?

      I hope so! (Michael didn't talk about the comic too much) I can imagine that Tenzin (and Jinora perhaps) will help Korra in dealing with the spirits issue. I'm sure Korra might seek advice from Tenzin as he's always been her go-to - person. Personally, I hope that a future comic series will focus on the new Air Nation.

      Oh I was talking about the others in Aang's family. I think we don't get enough of them in the series. About Tenzin and his kids, It's almost obvious they are going to be there.

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    • Maybe Bumi will have a brief appearance but I don't think that Katara and Kya will appear in this comic because it wouldn't fit into the plot.

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    • The title is certainly interesting to say the least. I really hope they are going to show us the extent of what happened after the finale battle. I mean we should really have seen that in the series itself but I guess this will do.

      I agree with what some people said that I wish Bolin would not be paired with his brother becuase of what we know of Bolin it doesn't seem like working for the Police is something he'd want or like. Him joining the United Nations would have been greate as he could have done what he wanted to do with Kuvira but couldn't because of her actual motives. He could just be traveling the world helping people.

      I really do hope that with these comics we will get to see various parts of the Avatar world and how they developed and what happened to them after the events of LOK. Also I'd like to see what happened to the Earth Kingdom post LOK. We know Wu disbanded the monrachy but I'd like to see if that's for the better or not.

      It's great that for now the first comic is going to take place in Republic City. I guess my only complaint I ever had with LOK, I hope the comics are going to fix this, is that we don't get a sense of how big the world is compared to ATLA. In the 4 parter finale of Atla we really got a sense that the events that were unfolding were affecting the whole world, somehow, and not just a city. I really don't want LOK to turn into this narrative where there's a main city with its own hero that tries to save it over and over again.

      Other than that my best bet for this comic is that it's gonna deal with how Korra and Asami feel towards each other, in a few panels, and then mostly going around RC to fix things.

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    • Something I've been wondering: When it says the Triads are "realigned" or "reunited," does that mean they've all merged into 1 group? Because that doesn't make much sense to me.

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    • Korra2000 wrote: Maybe Bumi will have a brief appearance but I don't think that Katara and Kya will appear in this comic because it wouldn't fit into the plot.

      Yea you're probaly right

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    • Korra2000 wrote:
      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Wow, I thought I had the inside scoop by being the first to post the title & release date information on the board, but this puts me to shame. How did I miss all of this shit?.

      Edit: Oh yeah, I was also hoping to actually SEE their adventures in the Spirit World, but so far no word on that.

      Sorry to disappoint you.

      We are going to get one or two panels of the Spirit World right before they step out of the portal (source. Michael's interview with hypable).


      I don't recall the words "one or two panels" being used. Exact moment in the interview?

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    • Fomxcloud wrote:
      Korra2000 wrote:
      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Wow, I thought I had the inside scoop by being the first to post the title & release date information on the board, but this puts me to shame. How did I miss all of this shit?.

      Edit: Oh yeah, I was also hoping to actually SEE their adventures in the Spirit World, but so far no word on that.

      Sorry to disappoint you.

      We are going to get one or two panels of the Spirit World right before they step out of the portal (source. Michael's interview with hypable).


      I don't recall the words "one or two panels" being used. Exact moment in the interview?

      On from 33:39

      From what I understand, we'll get a few panels of their vacation in the Spirit World.

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    • AStudyInSarcasm wrote:
      The title is certainly interesting to say the least. I really hope they are going to show us the extent of what happened after the finale battle. I mean we should really have seen that in the series itself but I guess this will do.

      Definitely. That's how the comic will start off; they return to Republic City and instantly see the damage and have to deal with the issue then.

      AStudyInSarcasm wrote:
      I agree with what some people said that I wish Bolin would not be paired with his brother becuase of what we know of Bolin it doesn't seem like working for the Police is something he'd want or like. Him joining the United Nations would have been greate as he could have done what he wanted to do with Kuvira but couldn't because of her actual motives. He could just be traveling the world helping people.


      Actually, I think this is very interesting and I'm excited to see how things will go between them. We didn't get to see a lot of interaction between them in the last season, main reason being that Mako&Bolin were on different sides until the middle of the season. I miss the moments of the first season when they were showing support and love for each other as brothers.

      After Book One I feel like their 'bromance' drifted off somewhere because Mako was more 'highlighted' (half or so of the second season was about his investigation). We got to see more of it in Book Three, but not a lot really. So I'm really looking forward to those two and their relationship in the comics.

      AStudyInSarcasm wrote:
      I really do hope that with these comics we will get to see various parts of the Avatar world and how they developed and what happened to them after the events of LOK. Also I'd like to see what happened to the Earth Kingdom post LOK. We know Wu disbanded the monrachy but I'd like to see if that's for the better or not.

      Michael on his AMA:

      "Yes, hopefully in the comics, we'll have a chance to go to the Fire Nation and see how it has changed since A:TLA. "

      I'm pretty sure that the EK will be a focus, too. Maybe even in the second comic series.

      AStudyInSarcasm wrote:
      Other than that my best bet for this comic is that it's gonna deal with how Korra and Asami feel towards each other, in a few panels, and then mostly going around RC to fix things.

      Yup.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      He confirmed that Kuvira is NOT going to appear in Turf Wars
      YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!! FUCKING IMMEDIATE 10 OUT OF 10!!!!


      but that we might get to see more of her in the future as she's "still around"
      OR...or...she could die in prison, preferably horribly, & we could never speak of her again.

      ...........................................What???????

      BUT I LOVED KUVIRA!!! :(

      I mean, I wished that at some point she could become good and be part of Team Avatar again, maybe in another future comic. Anyway why do you wish for her to be dead?

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    • Because she is subhuman garbage. Aside from being a literal fascist, she's a fucking bore with no personality to speak of. Easily the worst character to come out of this franchise, & her Freudian Excuse is bullshit.

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    • I agree that Kuvira was a poor villain and Korra empathizing with her, something we're meant to view as the ultimate example of Korra's Character development {something she didn't even need imo} is a great example of how bad Book 4 was. 

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Because she is subhuman garbage. Aside from being a literal fascist, she's a fucking bore with no personality to speak of. Easily the worst character to come out of this franchise, & her Freudian Excuse is bullshit.


      I think the label of subhuman garbage pertains more to Ozai who really had no reedming qualities whatsoever. Kuvira, while being the villain, she still had some things that could save her from being total garbage. But not by much. She simply needed more than a season to develop because her story was complex in a way.

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    • The fact that nobody tries to make Ozai out to be better than he is is a point in his favor. A villain who is a terrible person is just doing their job, hard to hate them for that. The worst things a villain can do are be boring & be unjustly romanticized. Kuvira does both. Why would I give a piss about her lack of a family when she demonstrates that, when they get in the way of her ambitions, she'd just turn on them anyway?

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      The fact that nobody tries to make Ozai out to be better than he is is a point in his favor. A villain who is a terrible person is just doing their job, hard to hate them for that. The worst things a villain can do are be boring & be unjustly romanticized. Kuvira does both. Why would I give a piss about her lack of a family when she demonstrates that, when they get in the way of her ambitions, she'd just turn on them anyway?

      You make a good point. I feel that what the writers did was: they gave Kuvira this sad backstory to try to justify her motivations and thus making her more symphatetic. But that kind of fails because, as you said, yeah she was an orphan but she was willing to kill an entire city with a giant robot just to prove her point and conquer all of the EK. And she was willing to let Baatar Jr die for her cause, faking the fact that she felt sorry she did that.

      At least Ozai didn't fake who he was. In the sense that he did hate Zuko and did prefer Azula and had no qualms about showing it. Everybody knew he was a monster. Kuvira on the other hand wanted to act all noble but she was throwing people in rehabilitation camps ( or what was the name) because they were not EK citizens, and secretly planned to conquer by force everyone who opposed her while posing as a person who only wanted the good things for the EK.

      She might have, at the begining but it was short lived.

      I guess in hindsight you are kind of right even though Ozai still fits the bill for the worst human ever to human within the ATLA universe. He had no noble motivation to make him likable or a backstory ( ex: Amon, Unalaq, Kuvira, even Zaheer)

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    • Kuvira murdered a defenseless fort in chapter 11 and set up slave labor camps. There is no excuse for that, period.

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    • The good news is that she's not in it! ^_^ I wonder what this special task from Lin is & what the Triads want.

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    • I don't like Kuvira and her methods, but her goal was altruistic. She wanted to reunite the EK, which again, is a noble goal. And that is the best part of LoK villains. They give a whole new meaning to "the end justifies the means". Uniting benders and nonbenders, bringing spirits closer to humans, restoring world order and uniting a broken kingdom are all great achievements, but in the hands of inherently power - hungry people, the means far surpasses the necessary for the end gain. 

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    • AvatarAero wrote:
      I don't like Kuvira and her methods, but her goal was altruistic. She wanted to reunite the EK, which again, is a noble goal. And that is the best part of LoK villains. They give a whole new meaning to "the end justifies the means". Uniting benders and nonbenders, bringing spirits closer to humans, restoring world order and uniting a broken kingdom are all great achievements, but in the hands of inherently power - hungry people, the means far surpasses the necessary for the end gain. 


      I see you forgot about the slave labor camps and murderinga defenseless fort full of soldiers in chapter 11.

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    • AStudyInSarcasm wrote:

      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      The fact that nobody tries to make Ozai out to be better than he is is a point in his favor. A villain who is a terrible person is just doing their job, hard to hate them for that. The worst things a villain can do are be boring & be unjustly romanticized. Kuvira does both. Why would I give a piss about her lack of a family when she demonstrates that, when they get in the way of her ambitions, she'd just turn on them anyway?

      You make a good point. I feel that what the writers did was: they gave Kuvira this sad backstory to try to justify her motivations and thus making her more symphatetic. But that kind of fails because, as you said, yeah she was an orphan but she was willing to kill an entire city with a giant robot just to prove her point and conquer all of the EK. And she was willing to let Baatar Jr die for her cause, faking the fact that she felt sorry she did that.

      At least Ozai didn't fake who he was. In the sense that he did hate Zuko and did prefer Azula and had no qualms about showing it. Everybody knew he was a monster. Kuvira on the other hand wanted to act all noble but she was throwing people in rehabilitation camps ( or what was the name) because they were not EK citizens, and secretly planned to conquer by force everyone who opposed her while posing as a person who only wanted the good things for the EK.

      She might have, at the begining but it was short lived.

      I guess in hindsight you are kind of right even though Ozai still fits the bill for the worst human ever to human within the ATLA universe. He had no noble motivation to make him likable or a backstory ( ex: Amon, Unalaq, Kuvira, even Zaheer)

      It didn't 'fail', Toph well explained how things goes in this situation. Kuvira is maybe right, but she got out of balance and go crazy with the time like the other 'villians'. That's also how the new guy Giluq from N&S feels to me

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    • If you didn't know that the writers insist otherwise, she'd be indistinguishable from a self-centered sociopath who's just spinning a sob story to rationalize her actions & try to garner sympathy.

      Also, saying she had "noble goals but went too far" is vague enough that it could apply to just about anyone.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote: If you didn't know that the writers insist otherwise, she'd be indistinguishable from a self-centered sociopath who's just spinning a sob story to rationalize her actions & try to garner sympathy.

      Also, saying she had "noble goals but went too far" is vague enough that it could apply to just about anyone.

      I can't remember season 4 clear, but from her story and her position of power it's pretty clear how she turned this way I mean the story of people who came to help but holding power position got the bad out of them is very common

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    • Sorry to barge in, but this thread is meant to be centered around the Korra comics' content; as Kuvira isn't going to be in the comic series, I am asking you here to drop the topic and to take it elsewhere, please.

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    • Also, saying she had "noble goals but went too far" is vague enough that it could apply to just about anyone.

      Yes, just like

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      Hitler.

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    • Oh god, Hitler? Really?

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    • SaitamaBro wrote:

      Also, saying she had "noble goals but went too far" is vague enough that it could apply to just about anyone.

      Yes, just like

      TRIGGER WARNING

      Hitler.

      I was actually thinking of making that comparison at some point, but I try to avoid Godwin's Law whenever possible.

      Sorry to barge in, but this thread is meant to be centered around the Korra comics' content; as Kuvira isn't going to be in the comic series, I am asking you here to drop the topic and to take it elsewhere, please.

      No argument from me, I already implied I wanted to move on (or backwards, as the case may be) from Kuvira to discuss some of the information on what will actually be in Turf Wars.

      There are quite a few parts that intrigue me. What are the Triads doing? What is this "special task from Lin"? Is Bolin a detective like Mako? Is Mako still a detective, actually? Is Korrasami going to be smooth sailing like Kataang or more turbulent, like Makorra? If we will "likely see other LGBT characters," what is the context of that? Is there some Republic City Pride type thing, or is it more incidental? So on & so forth.

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    • Yes, that's what i wrote there.


      Anyway, why is it called Turf Wars? Are the gangs fighting for territory?

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    • There are quite a few parts that intrigue me. What are the Triads doing? What is this "special task from Lin"? Is Bolin a detective like Mako? Is Mako still a detective, actually? Is Korrasami going to be smooth sailing like Kataang or more turbulent, like Makorra? If we will "likely see other LGBT characters," what is the context of that? Is there some Republic City Pride type thing, or is it more incidental? So on & so forth.

      I'm guessing the task has something to do with either the Triads or the spirit vs human thing going on. Maybe they will go undercover? Probably not, but i think it would be cool. Was Mako a detective or just a normal police officer? Either way, i don't see Bolin being his partner if he was promoted, so either he is the same he was or Bolin jumped a few ranks.

      Well, they need to learn how to be better as a team, so no smooth sailing. I'd say they had a wonderful trip and everything was perfect, then they came back and there are all those problems that they have to deal with, and they end up having their first couple discussion.

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    • SaitamaBro wrote:
      Yes, that's what i wrote there.


      Anyway, why is it called Turf Wars? Are the gangs fighting for territory?

      Turf Wars is probably a reference to how difficult it will be for Team Avatar to remove the triads from underground. It took nearly all of the original Team Avatar to rip Yakone from his shady dealings in Republic City, so it would make sense that if the triads teamed up, they'd be damn near unstoppable.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:

      There are quite a few parts that intrigue me. What are the Triads doing? What is this "special task from Lin"? Is Bolin a detective like Mako? Is Mako still a detective, actually? Is Korrasami going to be smooth sailing like Kataang or more turbulent, like Makorra? If we will "likely see other LGBT characters," what is the context of that? Is there some Republic City Pride type thing, or is it more incidental? So on & so forth.

      I would have more questions on tying up loose ends in the original series (and LoK) and on making more inclusions of characters we would like to see. For example, I would like a semi - united EK, as well as some more Fire Nation included. Fire Lord Izumi is an interesting character, not in the least because we don't know for sure if Mai is her mother. More details on some unknown factors from the original series would be great. 

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    • Personally, I don't think the gangs uniting would make much sense, but it would certainly make them a lot more threatening. The only other thing I can think of, though, is that they've taken over ruined parts of the cities & are extorting people to be allowed back in.

      Mako was a beat cop at the start of Book 2, made detective at the end, & then his status was never mentioned again. He was assigned to guard Prince Wu, but I don't think that's really in the job description for a detective.

      It's hard for me to see Bolin as a detective, investigation was never really his signature skill, but maybe he'll pick some things up. Personally, I'd think he'd be much better as something like a SWAT officer. His aim would make him great for lobbing pebbles as riot suppression, & for really big problems, his lavabending would make his team nigh impossible to approach & of course it's serious firepower.

      Seeing the Earth Kingdom & Fire Nation would be nice, but I think that's a ways off.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Personally, I don't think the gangs uniting would make much sense, but it would certainly make them a lot more threatening. The only other thing I can think of, though, is that they've taken over ruined parts of the cities & are extorting people to be allowed back in.

      Mako was a beat cop at the start of Book 2, made detective at the end, & then his status was never mentioned again. He was assigned to guard Prince Wu, but I don't think that's really in the job description for a detective.

      It's hard for me to see Bolin as a detective, investigation was never really his signature skill, but maybe he'll pick some things up. Personally, I'd think he'd be much better as something like a SWAT officer. His aim would make him great for lobbing pebbles as riot suppression, & for really big problems, his lavabending would make his team nigh impossible to approach & of course it's serious firepower.

      Seeing the Earth Kingdom & Fire Nation would be nice, but I think that's a ways off.

      The problem I have with the triads is that they never were a threat. Korra wrecked them in the first episode of LoK, Asami and Mako destroyed the three leaders in Book 2, and Lightning Bolt Zolt lost his bending to Amon. Having the triads as the main villains seems really underwhelming, considering the level of the rest of the villains.

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    • Anyway, why is it called Turf Wars? Are the gangs fighting for territory?

      I think the title is rather referring to the fight over the spirit portal between the humans and the spirits.

      Well, they need to learn how to be better as a team, so no smooth sailing. I'd say they had a wonderful trip and everything was perfect, then they came back and there are all those problems that they have to deal with, and they end up having their first couple discussion.

      Michael said there will be nothing serious but that there are going to be a few "bumps" and "awkward moments". And by the looks of it, their vacation was indeed wonderful. (Anyone who's seen the panel shots knows what I'm talking about.)


      " On a scale of 1 - 10 (1 being SUNSHINE & RAINBOWS and 10 being THE DANG APOCALYPSE) how intense and #dramatic would you say the Legend of Korra comics are going to be?" (projectvoicebend)

      - "Ha. Maybe a... 6? The thing about the comics (which I like) is that we are able to do smaller stories that don't require a huge world war or invading army as the climax. There is definitely some dramatic stuff going down, but it's not the apocalypse. ;)" (Michael)

      (Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/55p5g1/i_am_michael_dante_dimartino_authorillustrator_of/d8cjlfn?context=3)

      Thought I should throw this in here to let you guys know what you can/can't expect in the Korra comics.

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    • Hmmmm, I'd like to see what he would rate the other books on that scale for comparison? If they were 10s, then whatever see in the first trilogy might be relatively minor on the dramatics scale with Korra and Asami being given the most dramatics.

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    • Kubernes wrote:
      Hmmmm, I'd like to see what he would rate the other books on that scale for comparison? If they were 10s, then whatever see in the first trilogy might be relatively minor on the dramatics scale with Korra and Asami being given the most dramatics.

      Not much but UnaVaatu and Ozai were the freaking apocalypse in villainous form. Those guys are a solid 10, and probably the most underwhelming villain throughout the entire series was Zuko. Especially since he was the bridge between hero and villain, and decided to cross the bridge after burning it so many times that he should have been a waterbender instead of a firebender. 

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    • Those two conflicts are almost diametrically opposed to one another: UnaVaatu as an end of the world thing but had little real character drama while Zuko had much less threat but was so much more interesting. I'd rather than a Zuko enemy than an UnaVaatu one any day.

      However, you could simply do a situation like ATLA where we have both instances in the same arc. Some general evil to focus the story but a villain that really moves the characters.

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    • Kubernes wrote:
      Those two conflicts are almost diametrically opposed to one another: UnaVaatu as an end of the world thing but had little real character drama while Zuko had much less threat but was so much more interesting. I'd rather than a Zuko enemy than an UnaVaatu one any day.

      However, you could simply do a situation like ATLA where we have both instances in the same arc. Some general evil to focus the story but a villain that really moves the characters.

      Ozai was a much bigger threat than Zuko at any point in the series. He orchestrated the large majority of what the team experienced throughout their journey, including Azula's raid on Ba Sing Se. While I do admit that having an UnaVaatu universe would be infinitely worse, global apocalypse (and Fire Nation domination) is not exactly limited in its effect either, especially since he was going to burn down the entire Earth Kingdom in the process. 

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    • Sort of. Zuko was a constant threat to Aang throughout the series, while Ozai was largely there in the background. Only in book 3, an mainly towards the end, was he a direct threat. I will add that Ozai's presence was there for much longer and used to great effect. These differences were pretty much absent with UnaVaatu and Unalaq. Even the story had to remind the audiance about him.

      The point being that having a good antagonist to the protagonist is a positive thing to a story. I just hope we get one in the upcoming comic.

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    • And we got a preview folks! EW released a six-page - preview of Turf Wars, Part 1.

      Check it out here: http://ew.com/books/2017/02/15/korra-asami-legend-korra-preview/

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    • Nice :D I liked when Korra and Asami were under water..

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    • The artstyle is a little bit different than the show but it will be awesome to see more korrasami.

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    • Why do these websites have to put everything in video form these days? If anyone knows a place that has this in just plain images, I'd be very grateful. I happened to see a few earlier, but that was apparently missing some pages. Anyway, from what I've seen, I think the foreground artwork is just fine. But the backgrounds lack a lot of detail & I am just not a fan of that.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Why do these websites have to put everything in video form these days? If anyone knows a place that has this in just plain images

      If you scroll down on the page I've linked to, you'll see plain images.

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    • I mean, I did, & I didn't. I can try again, maybe the page will load properly this time.

      Dot dot dot. There we go. Thanks for the heads up.

      So were they like...in their underwear, or...?

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    • COOL! I really need money to buy all the comics.

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    • Well, you don't need money to read all the comics, you may go here (:

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      I mean, I did, & I didn't. I can try again, maybe the page will load properly this time. Dot dot dot. There we go. Thanks for the heads up.

      You're welcome.

      So were they like...in their underwear, or...?

      Nope, they are wearing actual swimsuits. Koh even posted the design of their swimsuits: you can take a look here

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    • Oh, neat. So I guess this answers the question of whether or not two pieces are still in use.

      That mountain was a dick.

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    • ShizukuTsukishima wrote:
      Well, you don't need money to read all the comics, you may go here (:

      Thanks, I've already read them, BUT IT'S FOR SUPPORTING THE AUTHORS.

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    • I don't know if I'll buy them all, that's kind of a lot of money & some of them weren't really that good, but I'll definitely make it a point to buy Turf Wars.

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    • MetalbenderParker wrote:

      ShizukuTsukishima wrote:
      Well, you don't need money to read all the comics, you may go here (:

      Thanks, I've already read them, BUT IT'S FOR SUPPORTING THE AUTHORS.

      I see. I like to buy the hardcovers, you know, just have them.

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    • ShizukuTsukishima wrote:

      MetalbenderParker wrote:

      ShizukuTsukishima wrote:
      Well, you don't need money to read all the comics, you may go here (:
      Thanks, I've already read them, BUT IT'S FOR SUPPORTING THE AUTHORS.

      I see. I like to buy the hardcovers, you know, just have them.

      I already have The Promise, and they didn't bought me for my birthday The Search and The Lost Adventures (both hardcover). X( 

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    • MetalbenderParker wrote:
      ShizukuTsukishima wrote:

      MetalbenderParker wrote:


      ShizukuTsukishima wrote:
      Well, you don't need money to read all the comics, you may go here (:
      Thanks, I've already read them, BUT IT'S FOR SUPPORTING THE AUTHORS.
      I see. I like to buy the hardcovers, you know, just have them.
      I already have The Promise, and they didn't bought me for my birthday The Search and The Lost Adventures (both hardcover). X( 

      I like the hardcovers for the nice tidbits we get about moments in the story. You should ask for all of them for Christmas or your next birthday. I've got them all and they are worth it.

      Back to the recent "preview" from EW. I have to preface that the preview is incredibly short and likely only reflects 1 or 2 pages of the actual first graphic novel Now onto what I liked.

      I like the art used. Yeah, it's not as great as that cover or the ATLA stuff but it works well. I also like the potential for spirits to bring some conflict.

      I'm still apprehensive about a few things shown. First, the dialogue and the vacation in the spirit world. I'm just not sure if Korra really been inside long enough that Spirit World to warrant actually going. I'll add that its a small complaint. The only other issue is the "date" and that I'd rather have more meaningful development between the two*.

      • - They have all three books in this trilogy to do that so it's more of a wait and see thing.
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    • Kubernes wrote:
      MetalbenderParker wrote:
      ShizukuTsukishima wrote:

      MetalbenderParker wrote:


      ShizukuTsukishima wrote:
      Well, you don't need money to read all the comics, you may go here (:
      Thanks, I've already read them, BUT IT'S FOR SUPPORTING THE AUTHORS.
      I see. I like to buy the hardcovers, you know, just have them.
      I already have The Promise, and they didn't bought me for my birthday The Search and The Lost Adventures (both hardcover). X( 
      I like the hardcovers for the nice tidbits we get about moments in the story. You should ask for all of them for Christmas or your next birthday. I've got them all and they are worth it.

      Back to the recent "preview" from EW. I have to preface that the preview is incredibly short and likely only reflects 1 or 2 pages of the actual first graphic novel Now onto what I liked.

      I like the art used. Yeah, it's not as great as that cover or the ATLA stuff but it works well. I also like the potential for spirits to bring some conflict.

      I'm still apprehensive about a few things shown. First, the dialogue and the vacation in the spirit world. I'm just not sure if Korra really been inside long enough that Spirit World to warrant actually going. I'll add that its a small complaint. The only other issue is the "date" and that I'd rather have more meaningful development between the two*.

      • - They have all three books in this trilogy to do that so it's more of a wait and see thing.

      My birthday is the 30th of December, and instead of Christmas we celebrate the Three Wise Men in Spain the 6th of January, I think that's like too late Xd.

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    • So, just a few hours ago, Koh posted nine thumbnails of the Korra comic that give us a little bit more of an insight into what we can expect.

      You can find them here: http://prom-knight.tumblr.com/post/157679259418/hehe-some-favorite-faces-from-korra-thumbnails

      We basically got a 'confirmation' that two additional characters will be featured in the comic. From what I can tell, the figure that turns around in the first thumbnail is Tenzin, and surprise surprise, Raiko is going to appear in the comic as well. Now, this is not really a surprise, given that Tenzin is the second lead character of the series and that from a narrative point, it is only logical to include Raiko.

      Beware that those are only thumbnails which means that they're only meant to be sketches. The real panels will look similar to what the panels look like in the preview, so no worries.

      What are your thoughts on this so far?

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    • What are your thoughts on this so far?

      The Bending Brothers subplot looks like it'll be interesting & Raiko's probably still a dick.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      What are your thoughts on this so far?

      The Bending Brothers subplot looks like it'll be interesting & Raiko's probably still a dick.

      Hehe, exactly my thoughts, especially the latter you pointed out. Can't believe that after everything that's happened he still feels the need to go toe to toe with her. At least Koh drew him in a ridiculous way which makes up for it. He even has a beard, and his different hair style makes me think that it's actually someone else, but I doubt that.

      Though, it looks like Korra's kind of ashamed or upset in that thumbnail with Raiko. At least that's what I get from the way she stands and is holding her head low. However, I don't know if that's intended or if you just don't really include much of a character's emotion in a thumbnail. For all we know, it could also be that she's actually angry, but again, the way she holds her head low doesn't really support that.

      The faces in the other thumbnails are really hilarious and you can totally tell how they're feeling. Really liking Bolin and Lin's faces. I'm actually wondering if we'll get a proper introduction of Bolin joining the police force or if we will just see him being a cop all of a sudden.

      Can't say a lot about the first panel, but obviously, Korra's angry and probably wants to speak with Raiko about something we don't know yet. Then there are also people, including Tenzin, in the background, but I have no idea what they're doing. Maybe they are at the border?

      But yeah, as you said, things look to be interesting and I've been curious about that special police task thingy ever since its announcement. I have a feeling, however, that the subplots will have some kind of connection and will tie in together.

      Anyway, those were my 25 cents.

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    • Huh, it does look like he has a beard. Anyway, at this point I kind of think it's just an eternal trait that Raiko blames Korra whenever he has a problem & comes running to her whenever he's in danger. Like a dick.

      I'd imagine he's going to yell at her for going on vacation during such a tumultuous time, during which trouble brewed between the spirits & that amusement park guy that was mentioned in the synopsis, & she'll be all "o noes, he's right, how dare I have fun & expect this great big manbaby to take care of himself for once?" Which, to be fair, she probably shouldn't expect that last part. Then drama will happen & she'll come away with something about needing to better balance her personal & business* lives.

      The first panel is really too vague for me to make much out other than that Tenzin is there & Korra is storming off for some reason.

      Also, every time I hear the name "Koh" I think we're talking about the Face Stealer.

      • =Side note, how does Korra make money? She needs it to buy stuff, but she's outright said she doesn't get any kind of "Avatar fund," & she is presently unemployed otherwise.
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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Huh, it does look like he has a beard. Anyway, at this point I kind of think it's just an eternal trait that Raiko blames Korra whenever he has a problem & comes running to her whenever he's in danger. Like a dick.

      Sigh. I guess so. Dunno how the system works in their world, but for their sake, I hope the next elections come soon.

      Neo Bahamut wrote:I'd imagine he's going to yell at her for going on vacation during such a tumultuous time, during which trouble brewed between the spirits & that amusement park guy that was mentioned in the synopsis, & she'll be all "o noes, he's right, how dare I have fun & expect this great big manbaby to take care of himself for once?" Which, to be fair, she probably shouldn't expect that last part.

      Oh please no. If he really is gonna complain about that, I swear I'll freak out. That guy has no chill, but that remains to be seen. After all, he was the one who went to a movie premiere with his wife literally while the world's fate was at stake.

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    • Ladies and gentlemen, fresh from the oven, here you have some more information about Turf Wars from Irene Koh at yesterday's Emerald City Comic Con. Enjoy.


      • Korra and Asami are going to kiss twice
      • Mike and Bryan have allowed [Koh] to include elements in the comics that they didn’t include in the show (I'll add more here, once footage of the panel is released)
      • Koh sometimes includes her boyfriend as a background character and lets him get beat up by the likes of Jinora
      • [T]here will be interaction between Jinora and Kai as the airbenders will be [featured] prominently in [the comic]
      • [Koh]’s also included some Korean and South Asian characters in the comics


      (Note: Gene Luen Yang and Irene Koh attended an A:TLA/Korra panel at ECCC yesterday, each of them having talked about the respective show they're writing the comics for. Apparently, Yang said a lot of things related to A:TLA, but I didn't include the info here, as this thread is supposed to be about the Korra comics only.)

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    • All right, we've got some more news and what kind of news this is..

      First off, if anyone wants to stay away from information about the comic that they absolutely do not want to see, I advise you to keep distance between you and tumblr and tags like "turf wars", "the legend of korra comic" and the like.

      A day ago, a user posted a leak of the first part that wasn't meant to be shared and since then a storm is brewing on tumblr because this leak wasn't from someone working on the comic as far we know and it could get a lot of people in trouble as well as endanger the comics. (Basically this is the same scandal we had when Nickelodeon was pissed about the leaks of Book 3 a few years ago, which had the show almost canceled.)

      I will not say what the leak is about - unless you really want to know - but if you should see it, it would be best not to share it.

      Other news: we have a product description for Part 2 which sounds more than interesting.

      "Recovering from the fight and furious for revenge, Triple Threats member Tokuga solidifies his ties with the duplicitous Wonyong. 

      Meanwhile, when Republic City’s housing crisis reaches its peak, Zhu Li sets her sights on the biggest public figure in the city—President Raiko—in a bid for the presidency! With her friend’s success, the future of the spirit portal, and the wellbeing of Republic City’s citizens at stake, can Korra remain neutral and fulfill her duties as the Avatar?"


      The first thing to mention here would be the two names - Tokuga and Wonyong. Obviously, two new characters, one of whom is a member of the Triple Thread Triads. Now, I don't know if Wonyong is a female or a male name but my best guess is that it's the developer aka the person on the cover of Part 2. According to my theory, it would mean that, just as I had assumed, the two plot strings with the Triads and the human vs spirit conflict will tie in together.

      On another note: It looks like Zhu Li wants to become president! This seems to come out of nowhere but in honesty, I think she would make a great president. I am curious how things will go down.

      What are your thoughts on this?

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    • The possibility of Raiko being replaced is the most exciting news I've heard so far.

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    • Yeah...someone leaked some pages. including something that people had been thirsting for and something that kind of puts to rest what's been something of a source of a lot of fan drama.  I think a lot of people posted and reblogged it under the impression that it was a legitimate teaser.  Then, Irene Koh said what added up to "okay, who leaked that? Rude!" and...complete tone shift from the fandom.

      I'm not certain, but I'm guessing the person on the cover of Volume 2 is Tokuga.

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    • Deist Zealot wrote:

      Yeah...someone leaked some pages. including something that people had been thirsting for and something that kind of puts to rest what's been something of a source of a lot of fan drama.  I think a lot of people posted and reblogged it under the impression that it was a legitimate teaser.

      Yeah, it seems like most thought that they were allowed to share it while some flipped out and protested against the spreading of the leaks - myself included, but I reacted way less distraught - while others justified the leak and even blamed Irene for everything although she didn't even know about the leak until someone had told her on Twitter. She was just as surprised but hasn't said anything yet as far as I know or has she, Deist?

      There has been the mention of several leaks but I only saw the one. Where's the rest? I just hope that this won't influence the comics in some way.

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    • I know it's a little childish, but I'm kind of annoyed we aren't getting to see the Fire Nation straight away.

      I'm still going to read and probably really like Turf Wars, but if we don't see the FN in the 2nd comic either, then I propose a riot.

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    • Yeah...someone leaked some pages. including something that people had been thirsting for and something that kind of puts to rest what's been something of a source of a lot of fan drama.

      I have no idea what this means, so I'm going to assume it's respectively a sex scene & Mako getting addicted to cocaine, because I'm an asshole.

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    • Irene left Zuko out of a Gaang portrait at Comic-Con. It's an anti-Fire Nation conspiracy!

      You know what? It's clear the other nations have way too many problems under their own leaders, while the FN has so few, they did not even appear!

      Let's start the war back up guys!

      P.S. Zhu Li as President may cause us to wait slightly longer...as long as she is careful not to choke on her aspirations.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:

      Yeah...someone leaked some pages. including something that people had been thirsting for and something that kind of puts to rest what's been something of a source of a lot of fan drama.

      I have no idea what this means, so I'm going to assume it's respectively a sex scene & Mako getting addicted to cocaine, because I'm an asshole.

      Well... Basically, someone leaked one of the two Korrasami kisses. In fact, their very first kiss if I am not wrong there.

      And I just checked Koh's Twitter account and, unsurprisingly, she's pissed.

      yeah, super disappointing. i'm guessing it happened somewhere during localization, but apparently the dude is saying *i* leaked it. -_-

      Even Vivian Ng is surprised.

      arent the leaked pages fully lettered??? even the artists dont get those until everybody else does

      Koh's reply: yeah, it's clearly a review copy... ppl just don't know how the comics pipeline works -___-


      Welp, seems like there's nothing we can do. But who gets a review copy before everyone else? And what does Irene mean with 'localization'?

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    • Korra2000 wrote:
      Yeah, it seems like most thought that they were allowed to share it while some flipped out and protested against the spreading of the leaks - myself included, but I reacted way less distraught - while others justified the leak and even blamed Irene for everything although she didn't even know about the leak until someone had told her on Twitter. She was just as surprised but hasn't said anything yet as far as I know or has she, Deist?

      There were a few angry tweets later on (and a vaguepost on her Tumblr).

      Korra2000 wrote:
      There has been the mention of several leaks but I only saw the one. Where's the rest? I just hope that this won't influence the comics in some way.

      There was what likely is Korra and Asami's first kiss, plus a few other panels (some of which revealed plot points or new characters, and one which—as I said—should put a certain overblown fanwank to rest). But they all seem to have been removed by now. 

      Well, not the kiss.  That had gotten around so thoroughly within the first few minutes that they couldn't wipe out evidence of it getting out ahead of time if they tried.  Cue the squeeing of a thousand fangirls.

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    • How many pages have been leaked, just curious and where did this happen?

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    • I could surmise the kiss detail, it's the second part I'm drawing a blank on.

      I would wager that, following his addiction to cocaine, Mako spends all of his life savings & has to rob trains for money.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      I could surmise the kiss detail, it's the second part I'm drawing a blank on.

      I would wager that, following his addiction to cocaine, Mako spends all of his life savings & has to rob trains for money.

      Damn poor Mako.

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    • How many pages have been leaked exactly, just curious and where did this happen?

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    • It's a smattering of parts of a few different pages.  Some Brazilian blogger got an advance review copy and ran his loud mouth (although he later redacted a sizable chunk of it).

      But I don't think he was the one to leak the kiss; he made it clear that his blog entry didn't include it.  (And, again: out of respect for Irene Koh and the rest of the people working on the comic, I'm not linking it.)

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    • Deist Zealot wrote:
      It's a smattering of parts of a few different pages.  Some Brazilian blogger got an advance review copy and ran his loud mouth (although he later redacted a sizable chunk of it).

      But I don't think he was the one to leak the kiss; he made it clear that his blog entry didn't include it.  (And, again: out of respect for Irene Koh and the rest of the people working on the comic, I'm not linking it.)

      Fair enough, can you at least point me in the right direction of where I can find these leaks,

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    • Would, but he appears to have taken the entry down altogether.  Some screencaps may still be circulating around the Korrasami and Turf Wars tags on Tumblr.

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    • Korra2000 wrote:

      Welp, seems like there's nothing we can do. But who gets a review copy before everyone else? And what does Irene mean with 'localization'?

      I believe she may mean lettering? As far as I know localization is only used in manga, since it refers to changing the lettering from the original language to another.

      In any case I think I'm already going to dislike how they portray Korrasami. First of all, they met way before the race car scene, so that little piece of dialogue just seemed like a grasp to extend the 'history' of their relationship. Would have been way more impactful if they had just admitted outright that the two didn't start to become close until later in the series and build the relationship from there. And it's sad that they tear Korra down in order to prop Asami up, which essentially just destroys the whole essence of Korra as a character. But whatever. Hopefully the rest is better.

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    • Deist Zealot wrote:
      Would, but he appears to have taken the entry down altogether.  Some screencaps may still be circulating around the Korrasami and Turf Wars tags on Tumblr.

      Damn.

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    • The wording of that one line was awkward, but it's not a big deal.  And I don't see how Korra saying that Asami does a better job of understanding her than anyone else does is "tearing Korra down in order to prop Asami up."

      I mean...we shouldn't have to compare to Korra's interaction with Mako; but in this case, it fits.  Korra would vent; Mako would try to Give Advice, often managing to word it just perfectly wrong in the bargain.  Korra would interpret that as "you're doing it wrong;" and—for all that the writers tried to make her come off like she was being unfair to the poor, long-suffering tribute character—it was as often as not understandable that she'd take it that way. 

      Asami, by contrast, seems capable of being a sounding board for Korra without fucking up and accidentally invalidating her.  I didn't take the exchange in question as anything but that.

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    • Korra was never 'terrified' during the racing scene and Asami has never been as 'intense' as her. And Korra was not 'relieved' when she found out that Asami could drive- she literally was having the time of her life in Republic City being the Avatar.

      The racing scene was just important in the scheme of their relationship because it showed that Korra misjudged Asami, and that there was a side to her she could appreciate. If they wanted to get a point across that Asami was the only person that Korra felt could understand her, there are dozens of dialogue choices that could've reflected that, which didn't have to disagree with the episode and the characterization of either character.

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    • Mind you, I have not seen this scene you're talking about, but vis a vis the racing scene, I seem to recall Korra looking visibly frightened. Though I can't find it to confirm, nor do I remember when it takes place.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Mind you, I have not seen this scene you're talking about, but vis a vis the racing scene, I seem to recall Korra looking visibly frightened. Though I can't find it to confirm, nor do I remember when it takes place.

      She did look visibly frightened. 

      In the comic, Asami heckles her a bit about that and succeeds in getting a bit of a rise out of her...and then, Korra spills about how Asami is the only one who's seemed to really get her on a regular basis.

      Also: what she said was that Asami "could be" as intense as she was.  That she had hidden depths, as it were, and an edge to her that hadn't been immediately apparent.  (Not even sure where the "relieved when she found out that Asami could drive" interpretation came from.  She wasn't just "driving," she was tearing recklessly around a racetrack.)

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    • So does anyone know if this is going to have a kindle/ebook version?

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      So does anyone know if this is going to have a kindle/ebook version?

      Mayb if the comic does good. So far, there's no word on that but if there is a kindle/ebook version for the A:TLA comics, then there is the possibility that there will be one for the Korra comics too.

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    • Korra2000 wrote:

      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      So does anyone know if this is going to have a kindle/ebook version?

      Mayb if the comic does good. So far, there's no word on that but if there is a kindle/ebook version for the A:TLA comics, then there is the possibility that there will be one for the Korra comics too.

      Well, all of the ATLA comics so far have had digital releases, though I don't know if that necessarily translates to Kindle/e-books as well. It would only make sense to release Turf Wars that way too, seeing how limiting it to only printed copies is making a niche market even smaller and less accessible.

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    • I ask because I finally decided to check the price & I only saw a paperback option available.

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    • There will probably be .cbr editions, but no guarantee that they'll be out at the same time.

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    • A day ago, an interview by Steve Morris with Irene Koh was published that focuses about Irene's involvement in the comics, parallels between our world and the Avatar universe and, of course, what we can look forward to in Turf Wars, more specifically in Part 1.

      For everyone that hasn't read the interview yet, you can do so by following this link. I will pick out some of the new information we have gotten, so that we can discuss them during the wait for the publication.


      I was given the opportunity to design a few of the new main characters, one of whom is Bangladeshi, and another who is Korean. As well, there is definitely a stronger presence of South Asians — Filipinos, Indonesians, Malaysians, Indians, etc.


      There’s a lot of backstory that comes through, particularly in regards to how the Avatar world views sexuality, which has been exciting to learn about – especially when it comes to finding out that some of the characters had been decidedly queer since they were first conceived! - Definitely something I'm looking forward to.


      Koh about what to expect in Turf Wars: Three 72-page graphic novels in full color set against the backdrop of political turmoil, the revival of the Triple Threat Triad with a mysterious new head, and with a particular focus on developing Korra and Asami’s romantic relationship. Mike mentioned in his Reddit AMA that things will stay on the lighter side plot-wise, but thematically, there will be a lot to chew on.


      More in depth about Part One: Part One focuses on Korra and Asami trying to maneuver coming out to their friends and family in the midst of Republic City trying to adjust to the creation of a new spirit portal. There are new villains who would seek to take advantage of it, President Raiko’s troublesome involvement in spirit world matters, the ire of citizens who’ve been displaced by its creation, and the vengefulness of one particular character aimed towards Korra herself.


      All in all, this sounds super interesting and very exciting. Let's share our thoughts on this!

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    • Korra2000 wrote:
      There’s a lot of backstory that comes through, particularly in regards to how the Avatar world views sexuality, which has been exciting to learn about – especially when it comes to finding out that some of the characters had been decidedly queer since they were first conceived! - Definitely something I'm looking forward to.

      Based on one of the things that the damn-ass fanboy at the blue hellpit was deliberately spreading around in order to spite Irene Koh?  I think I can already guess who one of them is.

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    • I was given the opportunity to design a few of the new main characters, one of whom is Bangladeshi, and another who is Korean. As well, there is definitely a stronger presence of South Asians — Filipinos, Indonesians, Malaysians, Indians, etc.

      Makes sense.

      There’s a lot of backstory that comes through, particularly in regards to how the Avatar world views sexuality, which has been exciting to learn about – especially when it comes to finding out that some of the characters had been decidedly queer since they were first conceived! - Definitely something I'm looking forward to.

      I just hope giving as little information as possible in RCR means I won't get my business fucked up. Also, hey, first real corroboration that there were in fact specific characters intended as gay.

      Koh about what to expect in Turf Wars: Three 72-page graphic novels in full color set against the backdrop of political turmoil, the revival of the Triple Threat Triad with a mysterious new head, and with a particular focus on developing Korra and Asami’s romantic relationship. Mike mentioned in his Reddit AMA that things will stay on the lighter side plot-wise, but thematically, there will be a lot to chew on.

      For purely selfish reasons, I'm glad we're focusing on the Triple Threats once again instead of developing literally any other Triad. I wasn't all that stoked about the previous hints to the plot, but if there are a lot of interesting themes, that might perk my interest.

      More in depth about Part One: Part One focuses on Korra and Asami trying to maneuver coming out to their friends and family in the midst of Republic City trying to adjust to the creation of a new spirit portal. There are new villains who would seek to take advantage of it, President Raiko’s troublesome involvement in spirit world matters, the ire of citizens who’ve been displaced by its creation, and the vengefulness of one particular character aimed towards Korra herself.

      I hope they won't--I'd say, "dicktease," but that'd be weird in this context--us by making said coming out a cliffhanger. That last comment is particularly interesting. Raiko at this point is pretty much President of Screwing Up.

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    • All sounds good, especially the emphasis on matters of political unease and spiritual matters. I'm far from terribly interested in the Triads, but perhaps they'll surprise me.

      Do you think we might see the Fire Nation in this one (Turf Wars at all, not just part 1), or at least, could it be mentioned?

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:

      I was given the opportunity to design a few of the new main characters, one of whom is Bangladeshi, and another who is Korean. As well, there is definitely a stronger presence of South Asians — Filipinos, Indonesians, Malaysians, Indians, etc.

      Makes sense.

      There’s a lot of backstory that comes through, particularly in regards to how the Avatar world views sexuality, which has been exciting to learn about – especially when it comes to finding out that some of the characters had been decidedly queer since they were first conceived! - Definitely something I'm looking forward to.

      I just hope giving as little information as possible in RCR means I won't get my business fucked up. Also, hey, first real corroboration that there were in fact specific characters intended as gay.

      Koh about what to expect in Turf Wars: Three 72-page graphic novels in full color set against the backdrop of political turmoil, the revival of the Triple Threat Triad with a mysterious new head, and with a particular focus on developing Korra and Asami’s romantic relationship. Mike mentioned in his Reddit AMA that things will stay on the lighter side plot-wise, but thematically, there will be a lot to chew on.

      For purely selfish reasons, I'm glad we're focusing on the Triple Threats once again instead of developing literally any other Triad. I wasn't all that stoked about the previous hints to the plot, but if there are a lot of interesting themes, that might perk my interest.

      More in depth about Part One: Part One focuses on Korra and Asami trying to maneuver coming out to their friends and family in the midst of Republic City trying to adjust to the creation of a new spirit portal. There are new villains who would seek to take advantage of it, President Raiko’s troublesome involvement in spirit world matters, the ire of citizens who’ve been displaced by its creation, and the vengefulness of one particular character aimed towards Korra herself.

      I hope they won't--I'd say, "dicktease," but that'd be weird in this context--us by making said coming out a cliffhanger. That last comment is particularly interesting. Raiko at this point is pretty much President of Screwing Up.

      Ooh, I hadn't noticed that last paragraph. That should certainly be interesting.

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    • What's the blue hellpit?

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      What's the blue hellpit?

      Tumbrel...I mean Tumblr.

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    • Ha! Having recently joined Tumblr, that sounds pretty accurate.

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    • Master Earthbender8 wrote: Ha! Having recently joined Tumblr, that sounds pretty accurate.

      Why do you think I called it a word that means, roughly, a preindustrial dump truck?
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    • The two things have a lot in common. They're both pretty loud, chaotic and unpredictable. But Tumblr is overall a lot more enjoyable.

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    • You should be fine. If you can stay away from both "anti-SJWs"/reactionaries (they insist they're not the same, but the Venn diagram is pretty much a circle) and More Ess Jay Than Thou purity trolls, anyway. And absolutist vegans. And Makorra holdouts. And this biphobic possible scammer everyone nonetheless protects beyond all reason. And "ace discourse." And Birdbrain.

      (Good luck.)

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    • Why is it blue?

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote: Why is it blue?

      Because the color scheme for your feed (not your blog itself; that can be customized) is dominated by this desaturated dark blue.

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    • Seeing that Turf Wars: Part One will be available in about a week (in comic book stores), I'd say it's time to revive this thread. As of recent events, it should be said that you may want to keep a distance between yourself and social media (especially the likes of tumblr) and tags that are related to TLoK (e.g.: Korrasami) and Turf Wars, as apparently, Amazon has done a splendid job with the previews, having leaked the whole comic, so that fans in different countries collected the leaked pages and practically had the whole comic before them. ((Un-)fortunately, I also came in contact with a few leaks)

      Irene Koh also stated that certain pages of the "preview" are leaks and, apparently, you can look up parts of dialogue or whatsoever by googling. Needless to say, tumblr is full of leaks, so if you don't want to get spoiled (like me, though it was worth it), you should blacklist tags that are related with the Korra comics or the show itself as a whole.

      With San Diego Comic Con before our doorsteps, it's safe to say that there will be an Avatar/Korra panel this year, called The Comic Book Elements of Avatar and Korra, with Michael DiMartino, Janet Varney, Irene Koh and one of Dark Horse's social media coordinator as panelists.

      Here's the description of the panel:

      Dark Horse and Nickelodeon are excited to treat fans to a panel worthy of Aang himself! Join the creative team behind The Legend of Korra: Turf Wars and other special guests for a further exploration of the world. Fans will also have the opportunity to showcase their knowledge of the elements in a fun trivia competition for awesome prizes! Panelists will be Janet Varney (The Legend of Korra TV series), Irene Koh (The Legend of Korra: Turf Wars), Michael Dante DiMartino (Avatar: The Last Airbender), and Dustin Nelson (social media coordinator at Dark Horse).

      Personally, I don't think that they are going to adress the A:TLA comics, seeing that Michael isn't really involved in them and that the other panel participants aren't either. We don't know yet what exactly they will be talking about related to Turf Wars, probably teasing a few things here and there, maybe give us the cover of the third part, but I can't think of more but that. Any ideas?

      In the light of the previews/leaks, I am going to update the list of content to be expected in Turf Wars. I'll try to not spill anything spoilery, rather show you the integral parts of the new aspects.

      For anyone who doesn't want to know anyway, you are now warned.


      Former list of news/content (see: thread's introduction at the top of the thread)

      + updates/changes:

      - Official release date: June 2017 // pushed back to July/August 2017 (July 26th / August 8th)

      - Mako&Bolin are going to be heavily involved; partners in the police force

      - Completion of the script for Part Two // Illustration for Part Two is also nearly finished, confirmed by Irene Koh

      - Possible return to the Fire Nation in the comics

      - LGBTQ+ characters in the comics // Introduction of LGBT characters plus backstory AND depiction of social views and society

      - Backstory on characters // Return of known characters

      - Female villain // False; two male villains

      - New characters

      - New locations + known locations



       Now to what's new (slight spoilers ahead):

      Plot

      - Subplots:

      - Relationship of Korra and Asami

      SPOILER:  --> aspects of social conflict; backstory

      - Humans vs spirit conflict

      SPOILER: --> escalation of the conflict

      - Reconstruction of Republic City

      SPOILER: --> new character: developer named Keum Wonyong

      - Triads

      SPOILER: --> mentioning of a new triad group; more insight about the Triple Thread Triad; new character: Tokuga



      I tried to keep things non-spoilery or at least as minimum-spoilery as possible to give you some info as sort of a basis to have an impression in hopes to get this thread rolling again. As I've said, I already saw multiple pages of the comic and can't wait to read the full comic. Things are going to be interesting, that much is for sure, and I think that fans will be pleased, as well as that questions that many wanted answers to will be glad to see that they have been heard. Furthermore, we will get more info about the Avatar universe and the way their society acts and thinks plus learn new things about some characters, so we're in for a treat.

      What do you think about these news? Do you have questions that you would like to see getting answered, and if yes, which ones? What do you think will happen? What are you looking forward to the most? Which characters would you like to see more of? Any thoughts what we might learn at SDCC? Are you going to buy the comic?

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    • I already pre-ordered it & don't know how much I can say without getting into things I don't want to know yet.

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    • I'm actually looking forward to possible appearances of other descendants of the old gaang that were not featured in the show, especially the daughter of izumi who was originally supposed to be featured in the final season of legend of korra.

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    • Angico211 wrote:
      I'm actually looking forward to possible appearances of other descendants of the old gaang that were not featured in the show, especially the daughter of izumi who was originally supposed to be featured in the final season of legend of korra.

      It does sound interesting, but I doubt we'll get to see them in Turf Wars. Still an exciting thought, I guess. Personally, I am fine with what we have so far. IMO we have seen everyone who one should have seen, but if Michael should decide to bring in more yet unknown descendants, you won't hear me complaining. Moreover, I'd be curious in what kind of way he would introduce them. He has teased at a return to the Fire Nation in the future, though not outright guaranteeing so, so I guess that it would be a good opportunity as any to introduce other descendants of Zuko or maybe even relatives of Mako and Bolin since their mother was from the Fire Nation, as also Asami's ethnicity lies in the Fire Nation.

      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      I already pre-ordered it & don't know how much I can say without getting into things I don't want to know yet.

      Well, this thread is supposed to be free of spoilers or at least empty of huge spoilers, so whatever you'd like to adress, it would (hopefully) not lead to "getting into things [you] don't want to know yet".

      I, for instance, am still curious about the treatment of the whole humans vs spirit conflict and excited at the prospect of the airbenders being featured prominently. Thematic-wise, there wasn't a lot of room for them in Book Four, I guess, and so it's nice to know they'll have a place in Turf Wars. Also, here's hoping to a reveal of the third part's cover at Comic Con, as well as, by chance, a possible preview of the second part and/or an announcement of another Korra comic to follow. Haven't pre-ordered the comic myself yet, but I definitely will buy it.

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    • There's a lot of things I want to see, but how many of them are likely to be included? I am contemplating asking about the new Triad. At least, I don't think the name would be a huge giveaway.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      There's a lot of things I want to see, but how many of them are likely to be included? I am contemplating asking about the new Triad. At least, I don't think the name would be a huge giveaway.

      Really, it wouldn't give away a lot. Or anything at all. Though, that new Triad is connected with the context of things, mainly with what the Triple Threats are up to.

      There'll also be things included that you maybe haven't thought of wanting to see, as was the case for me. It was a pleasant surprise, though. You can ask ahead if you want :D

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    • You said something about the series including depictions of social views, but do you know if that specifically comes up in the 1st issue? I guess I'll probably find out in a week* or 2, but it might be helpful to know if I should stall updating until I read it.

      Also, while I'm here & if you don't mind, if it doesn't give anything away, I think I'd like to know the name of that triad.

      • =Side note, maybe I'm missing something, but if it's ready, I feel like Amazon should just start distributing it for real. I'd think that would minimize the amount of sales lost due to them screwing up.
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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      You said something about the series including depictions of social views, but do you know if that specifically comes up in the 1st issue? [...]

      Yes. I've already seen most of the first issue due to leaks and that was one aspect contained in the leaks. What I mean with "social views" is the way society feels about same gender relationships and how it's being treated in the different nations, as well as how certain individuals deal/dealt with it (that were affected). (This would be too much of a spoiler in my mind, you'll find out who I mean in the comic.)

      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Also, while I'm here & if you don't mind, if it doesn't give anything away, I think I'd like to know the name of that triad.

      Well, it doesn't give anything away, really. They're called "Creeping Crystals" if I remember correctly. As far as I know, they don't play a big role, just to some extent. You could say they're a piece of a bigger puzzle. Again, not going to delve deeper into it here because of spoilers.

      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      =Side note, maybe I'm missing something, but if it's ready, I feel like Amazon should just start distributing it for real. I'd think that would minimize the amount of sales lost due to them screwing up.

      You can buy Turf Wars at San Diego Comic Con already, actually. I've seen someone post pictures on tumblr from the Dark Horse stand with Korra merchandise - you can both purchase the coloring book and the first issue of Turf Wars.


      If you (or anyone else lurking around) should have more questions, I'd try to answer them without spoiling the whole thing. Let's keep this thread going.

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    • What I mean with "social views" is the way society feels about same gender relationships and how it's being treated in the different nations, as well as how certain individuals deal/dealt with it (that were affected).

      I figured. I didn't expect to get more than just Republic City, at least not so early.

      Well, it doesn't give anything away, really. They're called "Creeping Crystals" if I remember correctly.

      Sounds earthy. I wonder if they fill the void that the Terra Triad left behind. Assuming the Terra Triad was eliminated. They came up exactly once & were never spoken of again.

      You can buy Turf Wars at San Diego Comic Con already, actually.

      I live in Pennsylvania. Also, what I meant--& this furthers my opinion--is that Amazon specifically should start shipping already. Because the earlier they do, the less people are likely to look at the leaks & think, "Well, now I don't need to buy it."

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      What I mean with "social views" is the way society feels about same gender relationships and how it's being treated in the different nations, as well as how certain individuals deal/dealt with it (that were affected).
      I figured. I didn't expect to get more than just Republic City, at least not so early. [...]

      Actually, I don't know if RC is included. I just know about the other nations, not the United Republic's view on things, though it's kind of being hinted at.

      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Well, it doesn't give anything away, really. They're called "Creeping Crystals" if I remember correctly.
      Sounds earthy. I wonder if they fill the void that the Terra Triad left behind. Assuming the Terra Triad was eliminated. They came up exactly once & were never spoken of again.

      No idea. We might get to see the Terra Triad at some point, though. It is possible, after all. (Plot reasons I'm not gonna explain due to spoilering)

      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      You can buy Turf Wars at San Diego Comic Con already, actually.
      I live in Pennsylvania. Also, what I meant--& this furthers my opinion--is that Amazon specifically should start shipping already. Because the earlier they do, the less people are likely to look at the leaks & think, "Well, now I don't need to buy it."

      Kind of happening already.

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    • Tangentially related, there's a sculpture that seems to be based on the Korrasami Spirit World Tour.

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    • That. is. adorable. Seriously, I love it.

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    • The comic was boring as hell and basically spent the entirety on their boring ass relationship. It wasn't even interesting just everyone patting them on the back. That is not my only beef with it the other two core characters Makko and Bolin are barely in the story.  Pushed to the fringe of the story with the main plot of the comic playing second fiddle to the pandering. Overall the first book is  trash to me.

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    • Pretty terrible sadly. Cringeworthy dialogue, bad romance and on overfocus on it, korra and asami seem out of character in parts (not just in reference to their relatiohip), and what little is left is mediocre at best. Oh and the art is really bad.

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    • Avatar Page Admins wrote: Oh and the art is really bad.

      I haven't read Turf Wars, but I've seen strips of it. In some of the art, Korra doesn't even remotely resemble herself. It's kind of embarrassing.

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    • I liked it. IMO having part 1 focusing on Korrasami was a good choice but Part 2 and 3 better be more story focused.

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    • So, to recap, the "Korrasami needs more development" crowd came out of hiding to shit on Turf Wars for giving it "too much focus," & I won't be getting a copy until sometime after August 8th, because buying from Amazon was a horrible, terrible mistake.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      So, to recap, the "Korrasami needs more development" crowd came out of hiding to shit on Turf Wars for giving it "too much focus," & I won't be getting a copy until sometime after August 8th, because buying from Amazon was a horrible, terrible mistake.

      Yup. I pre-ordered a copy yesterday and also gotta wait a few weeks (I ordered it from a book store, though). From what I've read/seen, the first issue is more of an exposition of sorts that does focus on several things, but mainly on the relationship. However, plot threads aren't being ignored, just hinted at/introduced, so my guess is that the plot will pick up in the following parts.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      So, to recap, the "Korrasami needs more development" crowd came out of hiding to shit on Turf Wars for giving it "too much focus," & I won't be getting a copy until sometime after August 8th, because buying from Amazon was a horrible, terrible mistake.

      Yes.  Yes, they did.

      I'm hoping that I'll be able to get up to the second-nearest comic store (nearest is a hostile environment; second nearest is in another town) and see if they have it tomorrow.  (They have no phone, the slackers.)  If not, I'm going to have to buy it from Amazon (which I'd been meaning to do anyway for some time now) myself.

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    • There might be a comic book store in Bellefonte (about 20-30 minutes away), I have no idea. The closest one of which I know is in State College (45 minutes), & it's about the size of a bean, so I'd imagine it's a crap-shoot finding something there unless you specifically asked them to order it, or it was something particularly famous, like Batman: Year One. It's hard to say, since between its distance & the fact that it usually closes by 5, I've rarely been inside.

      So, that's why I frequently buy stuff online. If I would have waited, I could've gotten the kindle addition, then I would at least have it ON the 8th. I also feel like I'm probably going to get charged for shipping, even though I made sure it was technically attached to an order I had free shipping on.

      Honestly, if I can find it online, I'll probably read it that way before the physical copy gets here. Because it's just a bit absurd that "pre-order" apparently means "buy it now & get it 2 weeks or so after it goes on sale."

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    • Heh, I guess it depends on when exactly you pre-order something. The first part is on YouTube though.

      Should be said, Nickelodeon suddenly cares about The Legend of Korra:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAjSFg2IzAk

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    • Like months ago. I just feel like the ostensible point of pre-ordering is so that you don't have to wait 4000 friggin' years when it finally comes out. I'm fine with some amount of waiting, obviously Amazon has to get it in stock before it can ship them out, but I swear it was not this bad when I pre-ordered North & South. I guess I'll try YouTube later.

      I've said a few times that Nickelodeon changed its tune real fast when it saw the reception that most of the world was giving the Korrasami development. You can always count on a network to stand up for a good show that makes a statement when there's not much risk to their bottom line & it's already proving successful.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      So, to recap, the "Korrasami needs more development" crowd came out of hiding to shit on Turf Wars for giving it "too much focus," & I won't be getting a copy until sometime after August 8th, because buying from Amazon was a horrible, terrible mistake.

      It was shit. No point shitting on shit. Also coming out of hiding you sound like those diehards that like the couple just for the sake of it. Can't stand any friction directed at it. I don't even give a shit about it either way anymore. Just wanted to read an avatar story. Yet got an entire comic about coming out instead. Nobody reads avatar for the relationships. Which is the weakest story element in the series no matter when it comes to any pairing. Season 3 gave rise to a resurgence of fans because it moved completely away from them. The comic was a sacrifice for an agenda plain and simple.

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    • No point shitting on shit.

      Good point.

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    • So, as planned, I looked the comic up on YouTube, & without giving anything away, this rumor that there's no plot focus could not be further from the truth. I'm not sure if what I saw was the full thing, but romance comprised less than a 3rd of it, & I mean that at the most charitable estimate, counting literally every second they talked about feelings or kissed or whatever.

      The villain is wonderfully intimidating & the Bending Brothers figure prominently in the climax. A lot of things fans have been complaining about since Korra left the Spirit Portals open are finally being addressed, so this won't be some irrelevant filler plot. The action & the comedy are on-point too. My opinion of the artwork is about the same as ever: While I like the character drawings well enough, I am not a fan of the washed out backgrounds, though this usually was not a huge distraction.

      It's every bit as strong as the openings of Smoke & Shadow, The Rift, & The Search, as well as the 2nd installment of North & South, & even has some similarities in subject matter. If you liked those & aren't looking for an axe to grind, I see no reason why you wouldn't like Part 1 of Turf Wars. I will be opining on the romance itself on the more spoilery thread devoted to that topic.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      So, to recap, the "Korrasami needs more development" crowd came out of hiding to shit on Turf Wars for giving it "too much focus,"

      Well from what I had seen that I had been a major concern in quite a few "crowds" of the fandom since the comic's announcment. Nor do I think pointing out that flaw in the finale conflicts, as some have suggested, with thinking there is too much focus on korrasami in this book, or that it was just a poorly written relationship in this book (albeit I should note some people liked the relationship but thought it had too much focus). You could argue that perphaps they wrote themselves into a corner with how they ended the show, but I still think the comic could have better balanced the focus and been of better quality.

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    • There is nothing wrong with the writing. There never was.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      There is nothing wrong with the writing. There never was.

      I have to respectfully disagree on that point.

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    • If there's anything that bugs me?  It's that you see Viper—silly hat, silly goatee, center-buttoned shirt, and all—alive and causing trouble for a rival triad on one page.  Then, a few pages later, Ping is claiming that Tokuga took over the gang via "Klingon promotion."

      ...well, I suppose "bumped [him] off" could mean "deposed him."  But normally, it means "killed him."

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    • Y'know, I thought I saw him, but I concluded I must've been mistaken, since the context strongly indicated Viper was killed. That's a real letdown, he was shaping up to be a Named Character Killer.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Y'know, I thought I saw him, but I concluded I must've been mistaken, since the context strongly indicated Viper was killed. That's a real letdown, he was shaping up to be a Named Character Killer.

      Yeah...you see him getting tangled up by Beifong's cables; and in a close-up at that.  My first reaction was "wait, what?" because—as I implied—his character design is actually fairly distinctive (that pretentious goatee, and that ridiculous trilby with the gray hatband)...but there's Ping, suggesting that he was supposed to have been dead as of when that fight happened.

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    • Deist Zealot wrote:
      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Y'know, I thought I saw him, but I concluded I must've been mistaken, since the context strongly indicated Viper was killed. That's a real letdown, he was shaping up to be a Named Character Killer.
      Yeah...you see him getting tangled up by Beifong's cables; and in a close-up at that.  My first reaction was "wait, what?" because—as I implied—his character design is actually fairly distinctive (that pretentious goatee, and that ridiculous trilby with the gray hatband)...but there's Ping, suggesting that he was supposed to have been dead as of when that fight happened.

      To be fair I don't think we can call it a continuity issue since they don't directly state he was killed, but that is wierd because that is usually the implication of such language. Plus as you guys say it takes away some of the coolness of the character. Also it raises the question of why he allows viper to stick around, isnt that a huge risk? He could gather gang members loyal to him and just take the gang back, or at least attempt to.

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    • It's also reinforced by the fact that Ping says right afterward that anyone who crosses Tokuga "doesn't live long." So it doesn't really make sense that he'd let Viper live.

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    • The power trip of subordinating the previous boss, maybe? 

      I don't know; I just saw Viper and his trilby and his goatee in a couple of panels....and then, what sure as hell read as the claim that he'd been dead since before that fight happened (complete with a panel in which he's getting struck, presumably by Tokuga, and falling backwards) a few pages later.  (Which makes it even clearer, in the bargain, that it's the same guy in all three panels; you see his stupid trilby and pretentious goatee in all of them, and the rest of his ugly face in two.) 

      As I said in another discussion elsewhere: Schrödinger's Goon.

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    • I guess it's hypothetically possible it was a random goon in the same outfit, but that's a stretch. I hope they have the cajones to kill off Viper, I think that would make it the first of the Avatar comics to actually bump off a named character from the parent show.

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    • the artstyle is strange.

      why didn't they used the same as in the AtlA comics?

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    • Because it's not the same artist. The Avatar comics can be rather odd as well. Dare to compare. I've also never been fond of the effects in those. Sadly, I couldn't find a good screenshot of the effects in Turf Wars.

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    • I'm actually fond of the art of both Gurihiru and Irene Koh. As long as we get some content, I won't complain about the art.

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    • I find there to be pros & cons to each, but overall I think I prefer Koh's.

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    • I like Gurihiru's much more, because the characters look almost like they do in the series, while Koh's style looks completely different, its nice, but it doesnt really fit to the style of LoK imo.

      Is anything known, why they changed the artist?

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    • Gurihiru is apparently not working on Avatar comics at all anymore. I don't know why, but I find the incredible pudginess of their art much more noticeable. But also, I don't think it was ever the plan for the same artist to work on both series. Koh was likely working on Turf Wars while North & South was being made, which would be significantly more difficult if both used the same artist.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Gurihiru is apparently not working on Avatar comics at all anymore.

      Is that so? So have the ATLA comics concluded or will they just hire a different artist for future comics?

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    • Valer22 wrote:
      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Gurihiru is apparently not working on Avatar comics at all anymore.
      Is that so? So have the ATLA comics concluded or will they just hire a different artist for future comics?

      From the look of things, there is going to be a new artist, as it's been confirmed that A:TLA comics are going to continue.

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    • Yeah, Dark Horse at least claims they plan to eventually continue the Avatar comics.

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    • So why did Gurihiru quit?

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    • Valer22 wrote:
      So why did Gurihiru quit?

      They never said why. Probably because they can move on to other projects or maybe they didn't renew their contract if they have one.

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    • Korra2000 wrote:
      Valer22 wrote:
      So why did Gurihiru quit?
      They never said why. Probably because they can move on to other projects or maybe they didn't renew their contract if they have one.

      Oh, okay.

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    • Turf Wars looks really good! The Avatar Aang comics will probably stay the best but Korra Comics definitely have the potential.

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    • AnonymousAvatarFan wrote:
      Turf Wars looks really good! The Avatar Aang comics will probably stay the best but Korra Comics definitely have the potential.

      True. Although I found North and South to be a bit boring.

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    • I didn't find North and South boring as such but it definitely wasn't my favorite comic.

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    • AnonymousAvatarFan wrote:
      I didn't find North and South boring as such but it definitely wasn't my favorite comic.

      I preferred it over The Promise, but The Promise was something of a weak link.

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    • Deist Zealot wrote:
      AnonymousAvatarFan wrote:
      I didn't find North and South boring as such but it definitely wasn't my favorite comic.
      I preferred it over The Promise, but The Promise was something of a weak link.

      The Promise wasn't that bad actually. At least there was something interesting going on.

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    • Yes. The Promise isn't my favorite out of the five trilogys but it was better than North and South. Let's hope the next Avatar Aang comic is a good one.

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    • I actually really enjoyed the political arc of The Promise. It's something we didn't see much of in ATLA.

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    • The Promise is one of my personal favorites, actually. Though, it's been a long time since I've read it last.

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    • The Promise is awful.

      C-c-c-c-combo breaker!

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    • The Promise was ok imo, but Smoke and shadow and the search were better

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    • Smoke and Shadow is the one I actually dislike the most. The Search is my favorite but again, hopefully the next A:TLA comic will be better.

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    • Smoke and Shadow contrived a love triangle as unpleasant as the Makorrasami debacle of LoK Season 1. Outside of the love triangle, though, I enjoyed it well enough.

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    • One thing I like is Korra's parents' reaction to the couple.

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    • CharlotteSmoothie wrote:
      The Promise was ok imo, but Smoke and shadow and the search were better

      Smoke and Shadow Part 1 was good. And it was pretty cool to see Azula again. But it wasn't that good. Even though some may have had mixed opinions about The Promise, at least we can all agree that it contributed a lot to the world building, and in some ways felt like reading a history of the United Republic. Smoke and Shadow, however, pretty much only established that Kiyi is a firebender and expanded Mai's character arc. I also never liked Kei-Lo that much. The Search was the best though. If I were to rank all ATLA comics, it would be:

      1. The Search.

      2. The Rift.

      3. The Promise

      4. Smoke and Shadow

      5. North and South

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    • XXTaiWolfXx wrote:
      Smoke and Shadow contrived a love triangle as unpleasant as the Makorrasami debacle of LoK Season 1. Outside of the love triangle, though, I enjoyed it well enough.

      Meh. I didn't mind it that much, as it already had been sort of established in Rebound. It didn't get in the way of things anyway, so I'm okay with it. In overall, Smoke and Shadow, while not my favorite, is okay. All of the comics are okay.

      Though, my list would look like this:

      1. The Rift

      2. North and South

      3. The Promise

      4. The Search

      5. Smoke and Shadow

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    • Here's my list: 1. The Search 2. The Rift 3. The Promise 4. North and South 5. Smoke and Shadow

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    • 1. Search

      2. Smoke and Shadow

      3. Promise

      4. Rift

      5. North and south

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    • The points:

      LGBT. On the flag. It's literally thrown in the face. But this is trend now.

      Spirits against humans. Another trend. Foul humans against noble non-humans (James Cameron's Avatar, Rise of the Planet of the Apes). But, In my opinion, for the sake of humanity, spirits should be punished.

      The problem of reconstruction. Nonsense. Technologies + bending + Avatar * small number of victims = instant solution of this problem.

      The Triads. At the moment this is an extremely minor problem for Avatar. The previous three villains had some idea, but the new guy is just a bandit.

      Kuvira is not going to appear in Turf Wars. She was the only hero of Book Four. Accordingly, her character was able to unfold completely. She will not say anything new.

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    • The problem of reconstruction. Nonsense. Technologies + bending + Avatar * small number of victims = instant solution of this problem.

      I completely agree with you. I mean, you cannot fix everything with bending, especially things with glass or rubber things

      But at least they have no problems with the lack of energy resources, since they have enough lightning benders

      Kuvira is not going to appear in Turf Wars. She was the only hero of Book Four. Accordingly, her character was able to unfold completely. She will not say anything new.

      Be careful what you say, a lot of people don't like Kuvira :) In my case, I don't think she was a hero, but people demonize her way too much. Except her getting insasne at the end, but her way of ruling the state was, IMO, not worse than like the rulers before (from what we've seen)

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    • Okay, so I finally read Turf Wars Part 1...and I'm sure I'm not the only one who immediately thought of Jet when that one punk with the hook swords turned up, right? What's his name? Tokuga. 

      Anyway, as for the rest, I quite enjoyed it. Of course, you have to have the obligatory sleazy businessman, and since Hiroshi performed Heroic Sacrifice/Redemption Equals Death in Book 4 and Varrick's clearly turned over a new leaf, there had to be a new guy. Was nice to see Mako and Bolin again, and especially cool to see Bo rocking the uniform(I always preferred Bolin of the two, personally).

      And as for the, to use Sokka's word, "oogies"? I actually found it far less distracting in Turf Wars than the equivalent scenes with Kataang in the ATLA comics like The Promise. And I felt it was handled quite well.

      No, overall I was very satisfied with what we got, and it's not because we got to see Korra and Asami kiss twice. Okay, not just for that reason :P Overall, I actually think Mike(who, IIRC, did the writing) managed to work it into the overall story quite smoothly and in a way that kept it relevant without overpowering the greater narrative.

      Can't wait for Part 2

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    • I did think the decision to use the hook swords was probably because someone missed them since Jet wasn't around.

      I hadn't thought of Varrick being the sleazy businessman. That would have been sort of neat, but I'm not opposed to it being some new guy.

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    • I actually prefer the new guy being the sleazy businessman, because Varrick already filled that role in Book 2, and to have him fall back into that pattern IMO would significantly cheapen what character development he got later in the series and especially in Book 4, where IMO we saw that he did turn over a new leaf when he refused to continue working on weaponizing spirit vines for Raiko(after being forced to do so by Kuvira, with predictably catastrophic results).

      Plus, I'd imagine Zhu Li would never have stood for it.

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    • Varrick's thing has always been that he's sleazy, but he has some standards. I don't like the idea that he's squeaky clean now.

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    • Meh. I don't think he'll ever be clean. Here's hoping Zhu Li will have a good influence on him. ^^

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    • So, time for me to tick in.

      I liked it a lot overall. Nice artwork, good dialogue, the Spirit World stuff was great. Kya's stuff was pretty good. I think it's reasonable that Sozin could have thought of the LGBT community the way they explained here, though I thought Korra's reaction was kind of too comical and it took me out a bit.

      The villain is OK. Not quite as good as Amon,Zaheer and Kuvira, but not bad by any means. I do have to admit, I was hoping for at least a small mention of the Fire Nation, but keeping it streamlined is fine, I guess.

      Korrasami doesn't blot out the main storyline and was handled pretty well, I thought. Lots of cute moments.

      In conclusion, yeah, very good. Work on making the villain a bit more threatening in the future, take us to the damn Fire Nation and I think this will be a great series. And of course, keep Korrasami going.

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    • The thing I really like about the villain, whose name I forgot already, is that he's intimidating. I think it might be the first time in Avatar that we've been told, in no uncertain terms, that this guy will kill anyone who crosses him & has done it a lot before. Obviously we can conclude that a lot of characters must've done it, but it's either uncommon (like Amon & Zaheer) or left vague how many victims they've had (like Zhao & Kuvira). Especially since he's part of the Triple Threats, which ironically haven't been portrayed as much of a threat. You could kind of forget that this is supposed to be the mafia.

      The problem is that there's also nothing about him that's really compelling, at least not yet. He hasn't had a backstory, a point, or an understandable reason to be evil. So far, he just seems like a mean, power-hungry son of a bitch, whose most notable trait is getting his face fudged up by an angry spirit. Though since he's yet another chi blocking villain, maybe we'll finally get the history of chi blocking. Let me dream.

      It hadn't occurred to me that we're still not seeing the Fire Nation. Honestly, I have my doubts that the modern day Fire Nation will show up in Turf Wars, which is rather disappointing, if so.

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    • So, I was rereading the comic again... and I noticed something: on the bottom right panel of p.65, when the spirits come bursting out of the portal to protect it... there are a few dark spirits in the mix.

      Didn't expect to see that again, which is probably why I didn't notice before.

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    • The Dragon Eel Spirit also turns dark when he attacks Tokuga--that's his name--because a dark spirit is just a normal spirit that has become negatively imbalanced.

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    • The dragon eel is an a-hole even when he's technically helping.  Just thought I'd put that out there.

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    • A major one. I can't seem to like him even when he's right.

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    • Really? That's what I love about him. It amuses me.

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    • I actually don't really know what to think of the dragon eel spirit. It looks like spirits still need to learn to care about humans, so I hope we'll get to see spirits and humans actually living together side by side because so far it looks like both parties have been living for themselves instead of really interacting with one another.

      Then again, the spirit vs human conflict is a big one. I'm not sure if we will get the full resolution of it in just one trilogy.

      On another note: The cover for the third part is very interesting, as it isn't clear if the composition of the characters suggests a conflict between both sides or not.

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    • I feel like the dragon eel spirit will probably be less of a jerk, & therefore probably less funny, by the end. Maybe something about what he did to Tokuga will allow him to harm spirits, & Drageel will realize it wasn't such a hot idea.

      I don't remember if I mentioned that or not in the cover thread, but it's a reason why I don't like the cover, as that ambiguity doesn't come across as part of a unified, planned composition.

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    • Yeah, "Drageel"(Love that, by the way) is definitely still a total jerk, which I suppose is part of the character's appeal - kind of like that one lemur-looking spirit during the Beginnings episode, with how much of a jerk he was to Wan. Of course, in that one's case, he warmed up to "Stinky" eventually, but I would be surprised if the same thing held true of Drageel.

      OTOH, the much larger Dragon Bird spirit does like Korra. Was nice seeing that one again too.

      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      The Dragon Eel Spirit also turns dark when he attacks Tokuga--that's his name--because a dark spirit is just a normal spirit that has become negatively imbalanced.

      I did notice that when I kept reading after posting last night. It's a good bit of attention to detail on the artist's part, I think.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Really? That's what I love about him. It amuses me.

      On the one hand: he reminds me of the sort of person who tries to make a moral high ground out of apathy, but then gets horribly offended when things don't go his way.  And, to be blunt: I fucking hate people like that.

      On the other?  "People" is the key word.  It makes a hell of a lot more sense, and is a lot more forgivable, from an immortal supernatural being who's essentially one of the Fair Folk and explicitly operating off of blue-and-orange morality.

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    • I don't even think it was intentional, but I just find the fact that he's always being an asshole hilarious.

      I do love that Korra & Dragon Bird are apparently lifelong friends now.

      "Drageel"(Love that, by the way)

      Thanks. I decided he needed a nickname after I almost called him "Dragon Bird Spirit."

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    • I was calling him "the eel-bird."  Which is partly because he doesn't look like a dragon to me, partly because that was what a similar-looking entity (a guardian spirit of sorts, no less...well, her nature was more complicated than that, but it's close) was called by the protagonist in a speculative-fiction series that I like. 

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    • I would die of joy if they revealed more of the fire nation! I also hope they reveal who izumi's mother is, and iroh's father. Maybe they will show if iroh is crown prince and his sister and if he has other siblings

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    • It's not really related, but I finally got my copy of Turf Wars yesterday. I've been meaning to read it again, see if I have any different thoughts, & if it's worth buying paper again.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      It's not really related, but I finally got my copy of Turf Wars yesterday. I've been meaning to read it again, see if I have any different thoughts, & if it's worth buying paper again.

      Still waiting on my physical copy (Amazon as well) but I did read the comic book on a youtube video (and hopefully my copy will finally grace me with it's presence....). I was overall pleased with the comic as I said in the other turf wars topic (finally found this one). I already submitted a review on tumblr (or apparently we're calling it the blue hellpit now? either way it's accurate lol) so I'll just link it here again.

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    • Blue Hellpit is probably more accurate. The Hell is "Tumblr" even supposed to mean? Well, now I can do what I was planning to do & make words at parts that stick out to me:

      Then this greedy guy named Wonyong Kuem is trying to seize his property back from the spirits. He may be technically right LEGALLY but at this point, he’s hardly the only one who’s life has been uprooted by the unexpected new spirit portal and he’s hardly the only one who’s lost property because of it so he just comes across as a greedy sleazebag (which was basically intentional so yeah lol).

      I haven't found anything specifying either way yet, but I assume he bought the land after the fact as a money grab. The Spirit Vines seemed to be concentrated in a residential area, which aren't usually owned by industrial corporations. Citizens would be pretty quick to part with it, since their deeds are useless now, but you always need money.

      Meanwhile, even more trouble is brewing on the horizon with the Triple Threat Triads, The Creeping Crystals, the Agni Kais, and every other Republic City gang is on the rise

      Oh, something I've already noticed is that the Terra Triad is still in operation, & presumably are a separate thing from the Creeping Crystals. There are probably other gangs we're not aware of.

      Loved both of the brothers’ interactions with Two-Toed Ping as they were taking him back to the station. Ping is genuinely proud of both of them for making something of themselves. Bolin being Bolin thanks him in stride while Mako just tells him to shut it lol. Good to know some things never change.

      Those 3 were great.

      It’s also nice to see that despite their newfound hardships, the refugees aren’t blaming Korra for everything this time like during the beginning of book 3. They’re grateful to be alive and know it’s all thanks to Korra and her friends and they’re happy to see her again.

      I actually thought they were going to. I wonder what's different about this time. She also saved the city against Unalaq, & while it's technically true that the problem was brought to their shores because she opened the portals, I don't see how they would know that.

      She offers to help the displaced refugees in any way that she can and quickly begins to find herself overwhelmed. Just when it seems like she’ll be forced to leave (and they begin to riot or something), she doesn’t want to leave as Tenzin suggests. [...] Just beautiful and Tenzin’s expression as if he’s holding back tears just seals the deal. Couldn’t be more proud of her.

      Yeah, this whole part was pretty much my favorite scene. Someone criticized the speech as cliche, which I guess is fair, but it still works very well in context. It shows how much she's learned, while also achieving independent leadership skills, & most importantly that she puts the power back in the hands of the people.

      Ghazan’s signature Lava Shuriken makes an appearance! Well done Bolin!

      As a frequent critic of the bending effects in these comics, I didn't really find a flaw with this one, & this scene in particular was just gorgeous. I thought about saying that, while it's always cool to be reminded of where Bolin first learned these techniques (though did he ever actually see Ghazan use the lava shuriken, come to think of it?), I'd like to see him invent his own signature. But, actually, I suppose sticking with the shuriken makes a lot of sense. It combines both his rare lavabending talent with his other signature talent of precision projectile pelting.

      This spirit really screws over Tokuga but it’s not like he didn’t have it coming.

      Yeah, but my hunch is that he's going to gain powers he doesn't really deserve. I was planning to do something along similar lines, so I'm quite anxious to see more of what Tokuga can do now. If nothing else, he seems to have a tentacle that he can control in place of one of his arms.

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    • @ Neo

      I actually thought they were going to. I wonder what's different about this time. She also saved the city against Unalaq, & while it's technically true that the problem was brought to their shores because she opened the portals, I don't see how they would know that.

      The difference this time to me is that Team Avatar (and their honorary companions) have been the ones actively trying to help the refugees while Raiko hasn't even given them the time of day (I think Tenzin said that he hasn't even stopped by the camps to help them or even check on them or anything). Raiko's too caught up in getting his poll numbers up and hasn't left his office (and to the public that's been screwed over by an enemy he surrendered to, that's a no-no). So yeah, the populace can see who the real heroes are (and who really cares about their plight) and it isn't Raiko. And since Raiko surrendered to begin with (and Korra was the one who saved the City from being lost altogether at the cost of creating that new portal), he has no way of being able to throw Korra under the bus this time to save his own image. Last time he was able to play politics, this time, nope.

      As for Tokuga, yeah that's probably true (like I said, Korra chosing to aid Asami instead of stopping that spirit is gonna bite her in the ass somehow.

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    • HolyDragon2808 wrote:

      The difference this time to me is that Team Avatar (and their honorary companions) have been the ones actively trying to help the refugees while Raiko hasn't even given them the time of day (I think Tenzin said that he hasn't even stopped by the camps to help them or even check on them or anything). Raiko's too caught up in getting his poll numbers up and hasn't left his office (and to the public that's been screwed over by an enemy he surrendered to, that's a no-no).

      Funnily enough, his approval ratings would be higher if he did the opposite of what he's currently doing.

      HolyDragon2808 wrote:
      As for Tokuga, yeah that's probably true (like I said, Korra chosing to aid Asami instead of stopping that spirit is gonna bite her in the ass somehow.

      Yeah, but given that Tokuga actually tried to attack the spirit, he attracted attention to himself as we don't know if the spirit had targeted him specifically as it just flew ahead. So, that's his own fault.

      On the other side, you can't really blame Korra here. She had to make a choice, fast. Either it was attempting to stop the spirit from doing whatever (we don't really know if it was actually going to disfigure a person or do something else), and even if she had decided to not leave the spirit's side, I don't think she could have done much from preventing it doing anything.

      Also, Asami was clearly in a disadvantage and if Korra hadn't intervened, things would have turned out much worse. I mean, she was facing a water-, earth, and firebender. Not high chances for her to defend or fight as there was distance between her and them that prevented her from doing anything. (Though, she might want to think about creating a weapon for far distances, maybe something like a whip for electrocuting.)

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    • Korra2000 wrote:
      HolyDragon2808 wrote:

      The difference this time to me is that Team Avatar (and their honorary companions) have been the ones actively trying to help the refugees while Raiko hasn't even given them the time of day (I think Tenzin said that he hasn't even stopped by the camps to help them or even check on them or anything). Raiko's too caught up in getting his poll numbers up and hasn't left his office (and to the public that's been screwed over by an enemy he surrendered to, that's a no-no).

      Funnily enough, his approval ratings would be higher if he did the opposite of what he's currently doing.


      HolyDragon2808 wrote:
      As for Tokuga, yeah that's probably true (like I said, Korra chosing to aid Asami instead of stopping that spirit is gonna bite her in the ass somehow.
      Yeah, but given that Tokuga actually tried to attack the spirit, he attracted attention to himself as we don't know if the spirit had targeted him specifically as it just flew ahead. So, that's his own fault.

      On the other side, you can't really blame Korra here. She had to make a choice, fast. Either it was attempting to stop the spirit from doing whatever (we don't really know if it was actually going to disfigure a person or do something else), and even if she had decided to not leave the spirit's side, I don't think she could have done much from preventing it doing anything.

      Also, Asami was clearly in a disadvantage and if Korra hadn't intervened, things would have turned out much worse. I mean, she was facing a water-, earth, and firebender. Not high chances for her to defend or fight as there was distance between her and them that prevented her from doing anything. (Though, she might want to think about creating a weapon for far distances, maybe something like a whip for electrocuting.)

      And the fact that Raiko has to have someone basically tell him that shows just how incompetent he is. That or he's ashamed that he couldn't do anything for the populace and now fears that the populace will run him out of town (or kill him) if he leaves the office or something lol.


      I'm well aware of the last part as I noted all of that in my review I linked in my initial post in this topic (so I didn't bother to elaborate again) and I blamed Tokuga for his fate. What I meant was that regardless of Korra's reasons (which I agreed with her saving Asami), Tokuga himself seems to believe that Korra personally slighted him by forcing the spirit to attack him. We know that isn't the case, but Tokuga was too far away from Korra and that spirit's conversation to hear what exactly was said. From his perspective, the Avatar was talking to a spirit, then the next thing he knows he's turned into a mutant freak thanks to said spirit. He's out for revenge, no matter how misinformed and misguided (despite the fact that he's brought a lot of this on himself), and it's probably going to bite Korra (and the rest of the team) in the ass.

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    • Deist Zealot wrote:
      I was calling him "the eel-bird."  Which is partly because he doesn't look like a dragon to me, partly because that was what a similar-looking entity (a guardian spirit of sorts, no less...well, her nature was more complicated than that, but it's close) was called by the protagonist in a speculative-fiction series that I like. 


      I always thought that spirit looked more like a dragon-phoenix hybrid (didn't uncle Iroh say something about "Dragon Bird" back in book 2). I like the name Drageel for him though. If Korra only has one real prominent spirit ally (two if we count the adorable leaf spirit from "Korra Alone" who led her to Toph), a Dragon Phoenix is not a bad pick for sure lol.

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    • The difference this time to me is that Team Avatar (and their honorary companions) have been the ones actively trying to help the refugees while Raiko hasn't even given them the time of day

      A more cynical person (so I) might say that this sounds more like they're just too busy blaming Raiko & he hasn't managed to pass the buck off to Korra yet.

      Funnily enough, his approval ratings would be higher if he did the opposite of what he's currently doing.

      You mean he's doing the exact opposite of what everyone with common sense says is not only the decent thing to do, but the obvious strategic choice? Sounds like a politician.

      From his perspective, the Avatar was talking to a spirit, then the next thing he knows he's turned into a mutant freak thanks to said spirit.

      Come to think of it, I was wondering what made him think Korra specifically had a spirit attack him. Kinda wish she did, that would've been funny.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      The difference this time to me is that Team Avatar (and their honorary companions) have been the ones actively trying to help the refugees while Raiko hasn't even given them the time of day

      A more cynical person (so I) might say that this sounds more like they're just too busy blaming Raiko & he hasn't managed to pass the buck off to Korra yet.


      Funnily enough, his approval ratings would be higher if he did the opposite of what he's currently doing.

      You mean he's doing the exact opposite of what everyone with common sense says is not only the decent thing to do, but the obvious strategic choice?

      Sounds like a politician.
      


      From his perspective, the Avatar was talking to a spirit, then the next thing he knows he's turned into a mutant freak thanks to said spirit.

      Come to think of it, I was wondering what made him think Korra specifically had a spirit attack him. Kinda wish she did, that would've been funny.


      Yeah that's the other way to view it too and just as valid (the cynical view I mean). And since when has Raiko ever shown that he's the "sensible" sort? He turned down helping Korra when she came to him saying that a powerful dark spirit was going to destroy the world.....

      As for Tokuga's fate, yeah I had to go back and study that page a bit before I realized that I had to stop looking at that scene from my own perspective and try to see it from the character's pov.

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    • HolyDragon2808 wrote:
      I always thought that spirit looked more like a dragon-phoenix hybrid (didn't uncle Iroh say something about "Dragon Bird" back in book 2). I like the name Drageel for him though. If Korra only has one real prominent spirit ally (two if we count the adorable leaf spirit from "Korra Alone" who led her to Toph), a Dragon Phoenix is not a bad pick for sure lol.

      The dragon-bird from Hai-Riyo Peak (the mountain is even named after a similar entity in Japanese folklore), you mean?  Yeah, my first thought when I saw that spirit was "phoenix."  (Or, considering the cultural influence, maybe "fenghuang.")  And, to be honest, I've kind of thought of said spirit as "Hai-Riyo."

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    • So, I finally finished re-reading the physical copy today, & I feel the most important thing I took away from it is that Raiko's campaign manager is ugly as sin. There were a lot of things that were easier to notice, but that might just be because the damn picture wasn't moving all the time, like it was on YouTube. I haven't really compared the image quality to a still image on my laptop.

      I took more notice of how much went into the aesthetics. There's some clever use of the panel layout I didn't notice before, like having the panels of the refugees literally surrounding Korra to emphasize her claustrophobic feeling, or indenting a panel as she turns to someone to suggest movement. There also seems to be a very deliberately chosen color palette. Many scenes have vibrant green contrasted with swirls of purplish pink, though in Tokuga's sections, the whole scene tends to take on a kind of reddish tone, a bit like the Fire Nation scenes in the original series, but not quite as overt.

      I also took more notice of certain problems with the art style, like the backgrounds I originally complained about. Not much more, but enough. It helps that Koh keeps most of the scenes focused on the foreground, but what's weird to me is that this doesn't seem to be because she thinks backgrounds are a weakness of hers. The splash panel of the Spirit World was arguably the most prominent image in the comic, & while the colors are nice, I don't think everything should blend together the way it does. The point of the Spirit World is that it's full of distinctive, unique objects & creatures, so you'd think the art style should reflect that. I can also kind of see the complaint some are making about Korra, as while her body looks pretty good (durr hurr), her face often seems sort of off.

      I'm still not really sure if I want to hold out for the physical copies of the next 2. It will feel kind of strange if I just get the 1st volume, but acquire the others digitally, but the amount of time I had to wait for that was ridiculous, & it's not like there was anything extra to make up for it. Alternately, I could hold out for the collected version that will presumably come out at some point.

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    • I'm enjoying the comic so far

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    • @ Neo

      I know what you mean about the wait. Hell, I'm still waiting on mine at the moment....

      @ Deist Zealot

      Yes that was the reference. I couldn't for the life of me remember the name Hai-Riyo Peak...

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    • Just chiming in to say that I finally received my physical copy from Amazon in the mail yesterday....I'm like you Neo.....not sure if I'm going through Amazon again for the next two. I'm definitely getting physical copies of all of them since I have the first volume, but I'll see about going through another retailer or something....

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    • Problem for me is that it's difficult to get to a store, since the next town is 20 minutes away. I also kind of like digital copies because I don't have to worry about them getting destroyed by spilled drinks, obnoxious children, cats, improper storage, & so on. Not requiring physical space is also nice.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Problem for me is that it's difficult to get to a store, since the next town is 20 minutes away. I also kind of like digital copies because I don't have to worry about them getting destroyed by spilled drinks, obnoxious children, cats, improper storage, & so on. Not requiring physical space is also nice.

      Only 20 minutes? The closest town to me that has a book store is well over an hour drive from my current home (seriously, middle of nowhere doesn't even begin to describe it lol). I have to drive 20 minutes on a daily basis just to get to town lol. As for me, yeah those definitely are the advantages of having digital copies but my collector heart won't let me go digital lol. You should see my gaming and movie library. Got to the point where I had to put all my cases in storage and put the games and movies themselves in 2 big CD holder binders lol...same with my books. Running out of room lol...

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    • MASTER POST

      Now that the first part has rolled around some time ago, we're all looking forward to the next two parts that will come out next year. This is meant as a MASTER POST in which I'll sum up all the info we have on parts 2&3.

      Aye. Let's get started, shall we?


      Turf Wars, Part 2

      Release date: January 31, 2018 (new release date after delay)

      Summary & Cover: can be found here


      Turf Wars, Part 3

      Release date: June 13, 2018

      Summary: not out yet

      Cover: here


      Not a lot, is it? Well, Koh keeps regularly posting snippets of the comic on her social media (so does Vivian Ng) which I'll just leave here for you to see. (Keep in mind: I just mixed everything together, so there are pics from part 2 and 3 in there!)

      Sneak Peaks / Plot snippets:

      1. A scene with Korra and the airbenders
      2. A scene with Asami and Zhu Li
      3. Lin
      4. Tokuga and Korra
      5. "tired Kai"
      6. presumably Korra off with her glider
      7. RC from above
      8. Korra with the brothers
      9. Tenzin and Meelo
      10. Pema feeding Rohan
      11. Asami
      12. more Asami
      13. Jargala
      14. more Jargala
      15. Bolin
      16. Michael

      Then there are a few other panels Koh's posted, but I'm not sure if they're from Turf Wars (see Nr. 1) and/or if they've already appeared (see Nr. 2&3).


      Taking the panels into perspective, it suddenly looks like a bunch of info or not? It does for me at least. Now, why do I post a bunch of seemingly random panels you might ask. Mostly to get this thread going again and to discuss / theorize stuff in regards to the next two parts. Most of the pics are from the second part, I assume. If you happen to be interested from which part a certain pic is you can ask me (I wrote it down and am kinda aware of the time span / date the pics have been posted).

      All right, that's it for now! If you want me to keep posting new sneak peeks in this thread from now on, let me know! Can't wait to dive into the discussions / theories regarding the sneak peeks above and to hear your opinions / impressions. Let's see if we can bridge the wait for Part 2 a little.

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    • Following up my master post, I'll directly tell you my thoughts on each of the pictures above (safe for those last three).


      1. I don't think it's necessary to point out the present characters, as I think you guys know their names or who they are at least. I'm also not going to state the obvious by saying where they are and what they seem to be doing, but I will state my thoughts on this, which would be that I'm curious what everyone's looking at, as their expressions differ. One thing that has me wondering ever since I saw it first is that you can see Meelo sleeping of sorts (or just taking a nap). Seeing that, I asked myself: why? Is it a long flight? Are they headed to somewhere far away? Or is he just tired, but why would he be then? What could Tenzin be telling Korra? Why would Kai and Ryu be there?

      2. Not a lot to say about the second one, just that I hope we'll see Zhu Li in her bidding-for-the-presidency - arc and that I'm looking forward to it. (However, if things should turn out in her favor, what will happen with Raiko? And where's Varrick?)

      3. Well, my guess is that she's reading some sort of report. I also think that this is one of the scenes that Koh had included in her thumbnails - post a long while back. In that scene you can see Mako and Bolin with Lin in her office and Lin reads something upon yelling at the brothers IIRC. Then Bolin somehow gets an idea and that's all I know. Maybe this is when they will get that special task that Mike mentioned.

      4. I don't think a lot of people are aware of this one, as this post seems to have gone under. I didn't forget it, though. Of course Koh intended the thing in the speech bubble as a joke as she posted the pic during that phase, but it's safe to say that this is a legit scene in the comic. Seems like Tokuga has a plan of sorts. Of course the obvious question here is: what does he say that could Korra have so shocked / scared? Well, I guess we'll find out.

      5. I actually saw this picture only today when I was collecting the pics for this thread. I don't know what that is supposed to mean, but maybe it's connected to the picture nr. 1. Has me wondering what he does to be so tired...

      6. I'm not sure how to look at this one. I assume it's Korra since the hair style kinda resembles hers and the staff in her hand looks like hers. Is it just me or does the clothing she has on look like the dress she wore at the Zhurrick wedding? Looks like she just landed there as she is running to an entrance of something. Kind of looks like the building Asami stands in front of in picture nr. 11 as you can see stairs there too and a window. Still wondering about the dress though...

      7. Interesting and nice that we'll get a view of RC from above. Looks awesome.

      8. Seems like Mako has gotten over the news. Also looks like he's got rid off his bandages or am I seeing wrong?

      9. This one is the most recent image that Koh has posted and I'm veery curious what they are talking about. Not sure how to interpret their facial expressions, but I'm open to Meelo getting a moment at some stage in the comic. I assume this is from the last part as part 2 is completely done and has gone into printing by now.

      10. Nice to see a glimpse of Pema and Rohan, but I don't think that they'll be tied into stuff.

      11. No idea who she is smiling and waving at, but I guess it's not Tokuga. I suppose this takes place during the construction of the housing plans as the thing behind her looks like a trailer she could be working in while being near the construction site.

      12. This picture has me shook. Once I saw this, I immediately had to think back to that Korra/Tokuga one. I don't know, but I think these two pics are connected to each other. Hope she'll be all right.

      13. Apparently Jargala will have a bigger role which I'm open for. Maybe we'll get more insight on her triad and herself.

      14. Can't say if she's arguing or in a physical fight here, but I'm excited to find out.

      15. The only panel with an actual speech bubble! ... That's got three dots... But that's still something! I wonder who Bolin is talking to and why he doesn't give a response to whatever the other person says. Is he angry? Seems so. There's also another picture of Bolin that Vivian Ng posted that I didn't include here, but it shows him sort of shocked, wide eyes and all. Curious to see what Bolin will do in this plot. (Kind of hoping we'll see that double date with Korrasami and Bopal, but I doubt it.)

      16. Curious about this scene. I suppose this will be another crowd scene, but what is Michael doing here? He looks... nervous, confused? No idea what he's doing with his hands, but this could be a fun scene.


      Please tell me your thoughts! I'd love to know them and to talk about stuff with you guys!

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    • So is that lady going to be a major character? I figured she was just some rando.

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    • Thanks for the compilation! I really like all of it.

      Regarding picture 2: Seems like Asami will assist Zhu Li in her presidential campain. I'm looking forward to it!

      Regarding picture 4: I really like the fact that there will be a direct conversation between Tokuga and Korra. I really want to learn more about Tokuga's character in part 2 and 3.

      Regarding Jargala: Cool that she's back in part 2 or 3. Maybe we actually get some more turf wars in the trilogy "turf wars". ;-)

      I hope we will get the part 2 preview pages soon. I'm really excited about part 2. :-)

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    • Regarding picture 2: Seems like Asami will assist Zhu Li in her presidential campain. I'm looking forward to it!

      I actually hadn't thought about that, but it could be a possibility! Albeit I'm wondering how both of them will have the time for the campaign on top of being involved with the evacuees and the human-spirit conflict.

      I hope we will get the part 2 preview pages soon.

      "Soon", ha. Yeah, we'll definitely get them "soon" :P However, with Amazon's bad system and due to the preview fiasco with part 1, I don't know if I'll look at the preview pages this time.

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    • Korra2000 wrote:
      Regarding picture 2: Seems like Asami will assist Zhu Li in her presidential campain. I'm looking forward to it! I actually hadn't thought about that, but it could be a possibility! Albeit I'm wondering how both of them will have the time for the campaign on top of being involved with the evacuees and the human-spirit conflict.

      To be fair I'm sure the evacuees and the human-spirit conflict will be major, if not the only notable, campaign issues. Also I could see a conflict in the book perphaps being Korra trying to remain neutral in the election since she is the avatar, even if she believes Zhu Li's policies will make people's lives better. 

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    • I don't see why Korra would want to remain neutral. Raiko is an idiot & his policies have put the citizens of the United Republic in danger multiple times. Contrary to popular opinion, there's no actual rule saying that Avatars have to be neutral, they can take any side they wish if they think it will help preserve balance.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      I don't see why Korra would want to remain neutral. Raiko is an idiot & his policies have put the citizens of the United Republic in danger multiple times. Contrary to popular opinion, there's no actual rule saying that Avatars have to be neutral, they can take any side they wish if they think it will help preserve balance.

      Good point plus Raiko is a leader who should be removed from power, he reminds me of Neville Chamberlain, a weak, indecisive wolly minded man who only cares about himself.

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    • So, in continuing but admittedly much smaller scale news of Amazon handling Turf Wars just so well, after an extended talk with customer service over their goddamn speakers that keep breaking just shy of a year after I get them, they agreed to refund my order. I just now got the update that I was given a refund for my order of...Turf Wars: Part One. Ironically, I was considering pre-ordering Part 2 through them to meet my free shipping dealo, but apparently that doesn't count, so I got headphones instead.

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    • Wait, didn't you already get the first issue?

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    • Yes, & fortunately they don't seem to be asking for it back, or anything. Seems they're just all over the bloody place these days. The other day I mistakenly sent them an E-mail I meant to go to the manufacturer of my electric razor, & instead of telling me I had the wrong address, they sent me $10 in credit.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      The other day I mistakenly sent them an E-mail I meant to go to the manufacturer of my electric razor, & instead of telling me I had the wrong address, they sent me $10 in credit.

      LOL

      Wow, they're really out of place.

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    • Since the wiki ate yesterday's message and I couldn't be bothered to type everything out again, I decided to do so the next day. Anyway, it's been a while and in the meantime we have gotten four new sneak peaks from Koh which I am going to link down below.

      1. exhausted Iroh
      2. close-up of Tokuga
      3. Asami and Tokuga talking
      4. Asami at work

      As usual, we can only speculate here, which is what this thread is mainly for. ^^ So, what do you think of these? Got any theories or assumptions what might expect us in the third part? (These have been posted very recently, and so it's safe to say that these are unlikely from the second part.)

      Have fun discussing!

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    • I saw the one with Iroh and the one with Asami talking with Tokuga and yeah, they're probably from the third part, but they've definitely surprised me. I had no idea Iroh would show up nor did I ever think Asami and Tokuga would ever talk. It makes me very curious.

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    • The exhausted Iroh II looks like the Picard internet meme. lol. Anyway, I'm still hoping Fire Lord Izumi will be given a bigger role.

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