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  • Correct me if I'm wrong but did Pakku told Katara and Sokka during Sozin's Comet that he married Kanna? So why are they so shocked that they have already married in North and South?

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    • I don't think he told them that they married. I think that they married sometime between The Promise and The Rift, and never could get ahold of Katara and Sokka to tell them the news. Keep in mind they are reuniting after decades of being apart. Either that, or they forgot to some extent as it's been a few years, and so much shit went down in that time, can you really blame them?

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    • That's not true- remember during "The Old Masters" when Pakku told Sokka and Katara about the marriage? Just read the transcript of the episode. 

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    • Yeah, that's an error. Pakku even referred to himself as their new Grandpa. That kinda says they're married.

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    • It could've been informal. Like at the time he could've meant they consider him their grandfather, despite not officially being their grandfather.

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    • SorcererSupreme21 wrote:
      I don't think he told them that they married. I think that they married sometime between The Promise and The Rift, and never could get ahold of Katara and Sokka to tell them the news. Keep in mind they are reuniting after decades of being apart. Either that, or they forgot to some extent as it's been a few years, and so much shit went down in that time, can you really blame them?

      Well, he did state he was their new Grandfather. To them specifically.

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    • My above statement still stands.

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    • If the transcript is right, Pakku's line after he breaks the news to Katara and Sokka is, "I made her a new betrothal necklace and everything." While he does refer to himself as their grandfather, I feel like the above line, more than the others, introduces a touch of uncertainty. Just maybe.

      Gene obviously thought so.

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    • I was advocating for a really good sequel to ATLA, in which we see the Gaang as all grown up, but this was not how I imagined it. Even from the summary, I was very surprised to see how little time it took for a small village to boom into a metropolis. 

      It's great to see our favorite characters from ATLA again, but it feels bittersweet because I don't think this is the correct path. Maybe try some feudal clashes between North and South over principles (like we see in LoK Season 2) or have the North and South unite to defeat some common enemy. Something where we see more character development. 

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    • SorcererSupreme21 wrote: I don't think he told them that they married. I think that they married sometime between The Promise and The Rift, and never could get ahold of Katara and Sokka to tell them the news. Keep in mind they are reuniting after decades of being apart. Either that, or they forgot to some extent as it's been a few years, and so much shit went down in that time, can you really blame them?

      Im 100% with you. They were just engaded. At their age, being ofiicaly married isn't that important, so they could be just a couple. I can even imagne Katara doing the same on the next part, something like introducing Aang as a new family member

      And people always have complaints on the comics but forgeting that they are Canon. They wouldn't make such an obvious mistake.

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    • And people always have complaints on the comics but forgeting that they are Canon. They wouldn't make such an obvious mistake.

      First of all, this is circular reasoning. The canon can't have plot holes because canon doesn't have plot holes.

      Second of all, it's hardly unbelievable that Gene Yang might have forgotten a throwaway remark made almost a decade ago & either didn't think to run it by Mike & Bryan or they forgot as well.

      I've yet to read the comic, I just wanted to point out that this doesn't make sense.

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    • I now don't think it was an continuity error but I agree with you Neo, just because it's canon doesn't mean they won't be mistakes.

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    • Gene may forgot things but Mike and Bryan reading every comics few times before it goes out- Off course that doesn't mean there are no mistakes- but most of the time they are minor (Aang's tattoos, Zuko's chest scar). However, Pakku never said they were married. They know that they are together (if they still remember that) but Katara isn't suprise at all. It's only Sokka, and this reaction very typical for him- like when he was suprised with Katara and Aang kissing on the jasmin dragon etc.

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    • Do they actually say they read them before they go out, or is that just what you assume they do? Because from what I've read, they give Gene a lot of leeway in writing these things.

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    • So Gene decides what's canon in the comics not Mike and Bryan?

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    • Gene said in an interview that they are the idea guys and he is the little details writer. Same reletionship as in the original show. But it don't matter.

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    • Teen Titans Forever! wrote: So Gene decides what's canon in the comics not Mike and Bryan?

      Typically, how it would work is that Gene gets an outline telling him what the story is supposed to be about, but most of what you actually see from scene to scene--the dialogue, the reactions, etc.--is done by Gene.

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    • Thats what I said. Hes doing great job.

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    • SorcererSupreme21 wrote:
      I don't think he told them that they married. I think that they married sometime between The Promise and The Rift, and never could get ahold of Katara and Sokka to tell them the news. 

      To be honest, I can't wait until the comics have an offical time-skip. This whole time-length is so confusing. Ok, if I remember correctly, The Promise took place almost a year after the war, right? A few weeks after the The Promise, The Search happened. Right after The Search, The Rift happened. And right after The Rift, Smoke and Shadow happened. Smoke and Shadow had the longest timespan, taking place over two months, which much contrasts the usual timespan of the comics, which take place in little over a week.

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    • I think I'm wrong, though, because that would mean only a year and less than three months have passed since the end of the war and the Southern Water Tribe started rebuilding. That's an awfully short amount of time to build a city, even if the city was built by Waterbenders.

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    • DarkNet1 wrote:
      I think I'm wrong, though, because that would mean only a year and less than three months have passed since the end of the war and the Southern Water Tribe started rebuilding. That's an awfully short amount of time to build a city, even if the city was built by Waterbenders.

      I haven't read the comics, but if it shouldn't take a long time to build much of anything when you have a team of waterbenders making a city out of ice. I would think that after Season 1 of ATLA, Pakku would have helped the Southern Water Tribe make a city, and given that he's been there for about 6 months before the end of the Hundred Years' War, he has plenty of time - plus the 15 months you mentioned. 

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    • AvatarAero wrote:
      DarkNet1 wrote:
      I think I'm wrong, though, because that would mean only a year and less than three months have passed since the end of the war and the Southern Water Tribe started rebuilding. That's an awfully short amount of time to build a city, even if the city was built by Waterbenders.
      I haven't read the comics, but if it shouldn't take a long time to build much of anything when you have a team of waterbenders making a city out of ice. I would think that after Season 1 of ATLA, Pakku would have helped the Southern Water Tribe make a city, and given that he's been there for about 6 months before the end of the Hundred Years' War, he has plenty of time - plus the 15 months you mentioned. 

      Pakku wasn't the only northern waterbender who relocated to the south before the war ended. He had more than enough help before the Southern Reconstruchtion Project started in earnest. And don't forget that the war ended less than a year before "North and South"- that seems like plenty of time for waterbenders to build a small city out of ice. 

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    • 2 Years.

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    • NJLizS wrote:
      AvatarAero wrote:
      DarkNet1 wrote:
      I think I'm wrong, though, because that would mean only a year and less than three months have passed since the end of the war and the Southern Water Tribe started rebuilding. That's an awfully short amount of time to build a city, even if the city was built by Waterbenders.
      I haven't read the comics, but if it shouldn't take a long time to build much of anything when you have a team of waterbenders making a city out of ice. I would think that after Season 1 of ATLA, Pakku would have helped the Southern Water Tribe make a city, and given that he's been there for about 6 months before the end of the Hundred Years' War, he has plenty of time - plus the 15 months you mentioned. 
      Pakku wasn't the only northern waterbender who relocated to the south before the war ended. He had more than enough help before the Southern Reconstruchtion Project started in earnest. And don't forget that the war ended less than a year before "North and South"- that seems like plenty of time for waterbenders to build a small city out of ice. 

      I didn't mean just Pakku, just used his name because he was considered the greatest waterbender during his time. Also, he would have probably done the most to create the city. But yes, there were many other proficient waterbenders in the ship that took Pakku to the Southern Water Tribe. 

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    • Doratchi wrote:
      2 Years.

      I think it was just one year. I know the creators said 2 in an interview but I believe that was a mistake due to some quotes in the comics. In "The Search" Zuko says that Azula and Ozai hadn't seen each other in a year.And in "Smoke and Shadow", Mai tells Tai Lee that she encountered Kei Lo a couple of months before. It makes more sense that these comics all take place in the same year. The creators are awesome but they're not infallible. 

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    • Waterbenders making a city out of water is stupid! even in the avatar world. cautious! just thinking about the injury people may have. slipping: breaking your arm or back, even bust your head injuries. a city build out of water is very hazardous and risky.

      although many of you say making a city out of water can be built in less than a year in which i agree but as i said above. too risky.

      Making a city in cold environment takes longer than a year even given under such circumstances like technology, resources like wood, metal, fur and food. maybe even paying for labors with money to pay for those buildings.

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    • NJLizS wrote:

      Doratchi wrote:
      2 Years.

      I think it was just one year. I know the creators said 2 in an interview but I believe that was a mistake due to some quotes in the comics. In "The Search" Zuko says that Azula and Ozai hadn't seen each other in a year.And in "Smoke and Shadow", Mai tells Tai Lee that she encountered Kei Lo a couple of months before. It makes more sense that these comics all take place in the same year. The creators are awesome but they're not infallible. 

      No, you are wrong. One year in The Promise, something like month in The Search, and then The Rift takes place with Yu Dao goverment dinner, which has to be something like 2 months after they talked about the city's future at the beginning of the search, and the end of The Rift is 3 months after the battle. In the meanwhile, Aang practicig the air acolityes in Ba Sing Se while Zuko is back home. And we know that he asked Iroh to replace him in some party of Yu Dao, I guess that's one year celebretion.

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    • ChiefThunder935 wrote: Waterbenders making a city out of water is stupid! even in the avatar world. cautious! just thinking about the injury people may have. slipping: breaking your arm or back, even bust your head injuries. a city build out of water is very hazardous and risky.

      although many of you say making a city out of water can be built in less than a year in which i agree but as i said above. too risky.

      Making a city in cold environment takes longer than a year even given under such circumstances like technology, resources like wood, metal, fur and food. maybe even paying for labors with money to pay for those buildings.

      Earth bending+water bending+fur as floor That's how it done (at least at the new buildings, the old cribs of the south made by hands)

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    • Doratchi wrote:

      NJLizS wrote:

      Doratchi wrote:
      2 Years.
      I think it was just one year. I know the creators said 2 in an interview but I believe that was a mistake due to some quotes in the comics. In "The Search" Zuko says that Azula and Ozai hadn't seen each other in a year.And in "Smoke and Shadow", Mai tells Tai Lee that she encountered Kei Lo a couple of months before. It makes more sense that these comics all take place in the same year. The creators are awesome but they're not infallible. 

      No, you are wrong. One year in The Promise, something like month in The Search, and then The Rift takes place with Yu Dao goverment dinner, which has to be something like 2 months after they talked about the city's future at the beginning of the search, and the end of The Rift is 3 months after the battle. In the meanwhile, Aang practicig the air acolityes in Ba Sing Se while Zuko is back home. And we know that he asked Iroh to replace him in some party of Yu Dao, I guess that's one year celebretion.

      That's 1 year, not 2. And where are you getting these calculations, anyway? 

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    • ChiefThunder935 wrote:
      Waterbenders making a city out of water is stupid! even in the avatar world. cautious! just thinking about the injury people may have. slipping: breaking your arm or back, even bust your head injuries. a city build out of water is very hazardous and risky.

      although many of you say making a city out of water can be built in less than a year in which i agree but as i said above. too risky.

      Making a city in cold environment takes longer than a year even given under such circumstances like technology, resources like wood, metal, fur and food. maybe even paying for labors with money to pay for those buildings.

      To be honest, fighting with waterbending seems like a lot more of a dangerous activity than building a city out of water, especially when you have potentially the most powerful waterbender in the world helping out. You have a bunch of healers from the North, waterbenders who would make the city and some people who would want to migrate to the South to start a new life there. 

      Also, you have seen the Northern Water Tribe, right? 100% ice. Everything, even down to the houses, is made out of ice. And the best part? You break the wall, just waterbend it back into place. It's very easy to fix, and causes a lot less damages and debt than if you had concrete or wood walls.

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    • NJLizS wrote:

      Doratchi wrote:

      NJLizS wrote:

      Doratchi wrote:
      2 Years.
      I think it was just one year. I know the creators said 2 in an interview but I believe that was a mistake due to some quotes in the comics. In "The Search" Zuko says that Azula and Ozai hadn't seen each other in a year.And in "Smoke and Shadow", Mai tells Tai Lee that she encountered Kei Lo a couple of months before. It makes more sense that these comics all take place in the same year. The creators are awesome but they're not infallible. 

      No, you are wrong. One year in The Promise, something like month in The Search, and then The Rift takes place with Yu Dao goverment dinner, which has to be something like 2 months after they talked about the city's future at the beginning of the search, and the end of The Rift is 3 months after the battle. In the meanwhile, Aang practicig the air acolityes in Ba Sing Se while Zuko is back home. And we know that he asked Iroh to replace him in some party of Yu Dao, I guess that's one year celebretion.

      That's 1 year, not 2. And where are you getting these calculations, anyway? 

      You got huge banner says 'a year after' at the beginning of The Promise+plus what I wrote=2 years. Add it to the year of the series (summer to summer) and they are 3 years older. That's what they wrote 'after 3 long years Katara and Sokka are returning..'

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    • Yup, Doratchi is correct. Katara is now 17 which would mean it's been 3 years.

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    • Me and you always agree :D

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    • that's what i was thinking; i was sure Pakku and Kanna said they'd married in the show, but maybe it was just an engagement then and they only actually married in North and South

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    • Come to think of it, the series began in the early days of 100 AG, so that, plus two years, that makes almost three (assuming the FN never bothered to touch the Water Tribes during Books 2 and 3). Might be the timing is too fast, but I can deal with it.

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    • It was said that the glow of he avatar state is all the apst lives hsining together. Korra still has the glow after that conneciton was severed.

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    • That was retconned.

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    • Fomxcloud wrote:
      It was said that the glow of he avatar state is all the apst lives hsining together. Korra still has the glow after that conneciton was severed.

      She didn't have the connection, anymore, true. But the point of the Avatar State is not the combination of all the past lives together. Rather, it is more the access to the knowledge and power of the past Avatars in order to augment one's bending. 

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    • AvatarAero wrote:

      She didn't have the connection, anymore, true. But the point of the Avatar State is not the combination of all the past lives together. Rather, it is more the access to the knowledge and power of the past Avatars' in order to augment one's bending.' 

      .. which Raava possesses. The light obviously comes from her and she's been reborn too and learned anew with every new Avatar, so the connection to the past lives aren't the only source for knowledge/power.

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    • And how exactly it's connected to N&S

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    • Korra2000 wrote:
      AvatarAero wrote:

      She didn't have the connection, anymore, true. But the point of the Avatar State is not the combination of all the past lives together. Rather, it is more the access to the knowledge and power of the past Avatars' in order to augment one's bending.' 

      .. which Raava possesses. The light obviously comes from her and she's been reborn too and learned anew with every new Avatar, so the connection to the past lives aren't the only source for knowledge/power.

      I think that the introduction of Raava as kind of a "storage space" (I apologize for the crude analogy, but it makes sense) for the lives of the past Avatars is a great way to get around the fact that Korra will never be able to access her past lives again. That way, whenever she reincarnates (or reboots, so to speak), the information of the past lives is stored in Raava. 

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    • is N and S the last graphic novels of ATLA because i want there to be on where there in their 20's and kataras preggers

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    • The creators make mistakes and rarely fix them.

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    • Like Aggression states, sometimes - especially in long-running franchises - mistakes get made, and some times little details like this get forgotten, particularly after a long period of time has elapsed between installments.

      I noticed that too, but simply wrote it off as an oversight, or maybe it's just that it's been long enough that, with everything that's been going on and what the Gaang has gone through since that last conversation, maybe they just forgot. It happens.

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    • It's not a mistake, in the old masters Pakku says he made a new necklace and everything, they never stated that they already got married in that short time. So after the war was over they probably decided it was the right time and then they got married. 

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    • Pakku was just confident Kanna would finally accept his proposal then.

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