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  • Ok we all know Korra and Asami are in a romantic relationship now and we were all suprised (I know I was at least) But what I'm wondering know is how is everyone else going to react when thay find out about this?

    • How will Mako react when he finds out?
    • How will Bolin react when he fids out?
    • How will Naga and Pabu react when they find out?
    • How will Tenzin react when he finds out?
    • How will Pema react when she finds out?
    • How will Jinora react when she finds out?
    • How will Ikki react when she finds out?
    • How will Meelo react when he finds out?
    • How will Kai react when he finds out?
    • How will Lin react when she finds out?
    • How will Suyin react when she finds out?
    • How will Baatar react when he finds out?
    • How will Tonraq and Senna both react when they find out?
    • How will Huan react when he finds out?
    • How will Opal react when she finds out?
    • How will YinChow, Tu and the reast of Mako and Bolin's family react when they find out?
    • How will Kya and Bumi react when they both find out?
    • How will Wu react when he finds out?

    I don't know about you guys but I would love to know how thay would all take the News when thay evantualy hear. Imagin what aferyone in Republic city take it that Asami and Korra are a coupale. Also since Korra is the Avatar how are the Wold Leaders and everyone in their nations take the news. If you ask me it would be intrasting to see the looks on their faces LOLOLO.

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    • Everyone is disgusted. Korra's parents disown her. Mako arrests Asami because he hates her now. Tenzin doesn't want his children around Korra anymore.

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    • As I've said in a couple of other threads: we don't even know if overt homophobia exists in the Avatarverse.  If anything, the casual Korrasami at the end implies that it may not.

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    • FirelordxMako wrote: Everyone is disgusted. Korra's parents disown her. Mako arrests Asami because he hates her now. Tenzin doesn't want his children around Korra anymore.

      Judging by the time period that is quite considerable. Being gay at that time or lesbian is not dealt with easily. Many countries have outlawed bisexuality and can even go to the length of death penalty in order to prevent the spread of bisexuality. Of course that kind of technique was not used in many western countries but countries all over Asia and Africa heavily hate bisexuality.

      Oh and the United States also outlawed it and Republic City is the Avatar world representation of New York. So, all I am saying is that they cant really be a couple easily at that time period.

      Even Mako will hate those two...

      Seriously though they were hetero one moment and bi the other it just doesn't seem to work. It was very sudden and unndeeded and otherwise irrational.

      The creators have run out of ideas after ATLA, but I don't blame them. After thinking and creating such a great show they probably ran out of ideas for Korra and made random crap to cater to the needs of the hungry audiences.

      But I really only enjoyed the first book... Everything else wasn't great even in the slightest.

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    • Deist Zealot wrote: As I've said in a couple of other threads: we don't even know if overt homophobia exists in the Avatarverse.  If anything, the casual Korrasami at the end implies that it may not.

      The creators explicitly stated much to my dismay that they are in fact a couple. I believe it was on the Saturday Night Show.

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    • That's why what I said was "we don't know if homophobia exists in the Avatarverse."

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    • Oh my god, I can't believe members of the westboro baptist church watched legend of Korra, but here Rapmilo and FirelordxMako are. Weird.

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    • Folks, there are threads for discussing their orientation!

      THIS thread is for YOUR TAKE on the in-universe reactions of the various characters 
      If you want to discuss your personal views on them as a couple and how or not there was build-up, take it to the other threads.

      As *I* see them…

      • Pema will be very happy and supportive, as will the kids, tho Ikki will ask a dozen questions.
      • Tenzin will be a little more surprised, mainly because he has a blind side when it comes to most interpersonal dynamics
      • Wu, after trying a last pitch to change their minds with a date, will offer to sing at their wedding
      • Varrick will want to do a romantic mover epic *coughsomewhat*inspired*somewhatcough* by them
      • Bolin will say something unwittingly silly and get arm-punched by Opal
      • Mako will stutter in surprise, look back and forth at each, offer his congratulations, and go find a bar.
      • Lin: "Whatever"
      • Raiko will form a study group to see how it will affect his polls
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    • Wow, FirelordxMako, just wow. And Rapmilo, considering the Avataverse is an entirely different world, juding by real world standards isn't best. Plus, Bryke said they had plabbed for Korasami if I remeber correctly so it wasn't a last minute idea.

      But, moving on to the topic:

      Tenzin- I imagine him as being a bit flustered by the idea, but coming to terms with it

      Mako- he'll probably feel a little awkward considering his past with both of them. I don't know if he'll come to terms with it.

      Bolin- he'll be confused, but he'll be happy fo them

      Naga/Pabu- they're animlas; they don't care

      Pema- the same as Tenzin, but will come to terms with it

      Jinora- wil be happy for them

      Ikki- confused

      Meelo- confused or will shrug it off

      Kai- confused

      Lin- won't care

      Suyin- won't care

      Baatar- no idea

      Tornaq and Senna- they'll be confused, but they're good parents, and I imagine they'd want their daughter to be happy, so they'll come around

      Water twins- won't care

      Huan- will see it as an artistic statement lol

      Opal- confused, but will come around

      Wing and Wei- won't care

      Varrick- will do a mover about their epic romance lol

      Zhu Li- no idea

      Mako's family- won't care

      Kya- won't care

      Bumi- confused

      Wu- will lament that they're no longer available and/or ask for a threesome

      Raiko and wife- confused

      Gommu- won't care

      White Wolfbats-  won't care, except for Tahno, who attempt to seduce them into a threesome

      Lu/Gang- won't care

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    • Personally, I think just about everyone is going to be okay or indifferent to it.

      Mako probably guessed beforehand, because some evidence was right up in his face in "Reunion" and he's a detective.  Much as he's still a bit raw about Korra and especially about Korra being over him now, I think he wants her to be happy; if it could have gotten past the censors, we'd probably have seen him saying "go get her, tigerdillo" to either Korra or Asami at the wedding.

      Other characters who probably guessed: Jinora, Pema, Opal.

      Wu will pout.

      Senna and Tonraq will take Asami aside and instruct her to please not break their baby girl's heart like a certain firebender did, thank you.

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      • Mako will give them the same look that he gave them at the beginning of book 3 but still try to be happy for them.
      • Bolin and Opal will be happy for them. Especially Bolin since they will have another couple to go out on double dates with.
      • Naga will grow to like Asami more. Pabu won't really care.
      • Tenzin will get flustered like his usual flustered self but get over it.
      • Jinora will be happy for them. Ikki will be confused and ask too many questions. Meelo will ask Korra for some of Asami's hair.
      • Pema will be happy for them and have to explain things to Ikki and Meelo.
      • Kai will be okay with it because of Jinora. They might also do double dates.
      • Lin won't care too much because she's doesn't seem to care for love anymore.
      • Su will be happy for them. Bataar, Bataar Jr, Wei and Wing won't care.
      • Huan will say something about how their love relates to art and expression.
      • Varrick will come up with a new idea for a mover based on their love. Zhu Li will be happy for them.
      • Kya and Bumi will be happy for them.
      • Tonraq and Senna will readily accept Asami into the family.
      • Desna and Eska will just glare as always. Eska will notice Bolin with Opal and go to bother him instead.
      • Mako's family will probably tease him more than anything.
      • Wu will tell himself that that's why they wouldn't date him.
      • Raiko and Buttercup won't care.
      • Gommu will be happy and speak about harmony.
      • Tahno will understand why Korra didn't want any "private lessons" while Ming and Shaozu won't care.
      • Lu and Gang will just sit there and eat sweets like idiots.
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    • NervousShipper wrote: Oh my god, I can't believe members of the westboro baptist church watched legend of Korra, but here Rapmilo and FirelordxMako are. Weird.

      I'm not even christian lol

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    • Deist Zealot wrote: Mako probably guessed beforehand, because some evidence was right up in his face in "Reunion" and he's a detective. 

      Mako already knew, way back in in the first episode of Book 3

      https://31.media.tumblr.com/e25078f191ae067200fed7880657e6a1/tumblr_n7toc7Arvd1rogcuio1_500.gif
      Much as he's still a bit raw about Korra and especially about Korra being over him now, I think he wants her to be happy; if it could have gotten past the censors, we'd probably have seen him saying "go get her, tigerdillo" to either Korra or Asami at the wedding.

      Right after he said "I've got your back and I always will" to Korra I'd think.

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    • "I for one welcome our Korrasami Overlords"

      As for all the responses about Varrick's… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNRLpMFiGuE

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    • Deist Zealot wrote:
      That's why what I said was "we don't know if homophobia exists in the Avatarverse."


      Agreed,

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    • QueenCeline wrote: Wow, FirelordxMako, just wow. And Rapmilo, considering the Avataverse is an entirely different world, juding by real world standards isn't best. Plus, Bryke said they had plabbed for Korasami if I remeber correctly so it wasn't a last minute idea.

      Despite what the creators might say it certainly appeared like a last minute decision. There are only a handful of scenes that actual promote the idea of Korrasami but not nearly enough to actually make it happen.

      That being said, the world of Avatar is quite similar to the modern world today or at least in the late 1800s to early 1900s. Because of this it is very possible that the world at that time accurately reflects our world at that time period. To elaborate many rights given to people at that time were very similar to our own. Around that time period whites were superior to blacks. Similarly, benders are one step over non benders in many ways.

      For these reasons, it would make sense that the laws would prohibit homosexuality. This would also explain why they decided to go to the Spirit World, as the Spirit World has no actual government to interfere with their relationship.

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    • Yeah, the difference is that Avatar doesn't have any of the abrahamic faiths, so there's no reason for them to hate gays.

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    • Hahahahaha! Whats wrong with you people!! You are all sooooo stupid and blind! Clearly the entire situation is Macko's fault! He dated them both, and now they're gay. Therefore, MACKO TURNED THEM GAY!!! ITS ALL HIS FAULT! HE IS SUCH A JERK HOLE!


      Blah.

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    • I will never accept this korrasami...Neither will anyone else.

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    • Anyone else? There are at least 15 people on this wiki that I've encountered who have accepted it. I really don't understand your ignorance and intolerance. You make the world an unsafe place for us.

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    • stfu how do I make the world unsafe by saying that korrasami is horrible? MAKORRA SHOULDVE HAPPENED!!

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    • NervousShipper wrote: Anyone else? There are at least 15 people on this wiki that I've encountered who have accepted it. I really don't understand your ignorance and intolerance. You make the world an unsafe place for us.

      I WILL NEVER ACCEPT IT!!!!! I HATE MACKO SO MUCH! HE SUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKSSSSSS!!! ITS ALL HIS FAULT!!!! HE AND KORRA COULD HAVE BEEN SO HAPPY TOGEATHER, BUT OH NO!!! HE HAD TO RUIN EVERYTHING BE BEING A DOOSCHE BAG!!! AND NOW SHE'S A LESBO!!!!!!!!!!!! HE SUCKS! LOSERTRON!!!

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    • I'm pretty sure you have no understanding whatesover of how human sexuality works. Also, your continued use of the caps lock makes me think that you may be too young to participate in these discussions. Have you thought of telling your parents about your espresso addiction?

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    • I'm Not sure whether to be mildly amused or depressed that this kind of conversation even exists. Can't we all just accept the things that we can't change about ourselves or others?

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    • NervousShipper wrote: I'm pretty sure you have no understanding whatesover of how human sexuality works. Also, your continued use of the caps lock makes me think that you may be too young to participate in these discussions. Have you thought of telling your parents about your espresso addiction?

      HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT TELLING YOUR PARANTES ABOUT YOUR BEING AN ASSHOE ADDICTION?????? STOP BEING A NAZI!!!!!

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    • I'm not sure how pointing out your debilitated mental faculties is the same as killing six million jewish people. Care to clarify your comment?

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    • In Fact, the Nazis were vehemently opposed to any form of homosexuality, so how can NervousShipper be a Nazi?

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    • And he has not murdered millions of innocents.

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    • At least, I hope not.

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    • i hope.

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    • Of course I haven't murdered millions of innocents, I'm not a republican.

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    • The Halter of Wind wrote: In Fact, the Nazis were vehemently opposed to any form of homosexuality, so how can NervousShipper be a Nazi?

      Actually, there was an entire regimen of Nazi soldiers well known for their homosexuality. They denied it, though. For more information, watch the Red Ribbon saga of Dragon Ball and General Blue.

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    • Let's not make this political. That will only attract more FoodBlenders.

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    • Or those with a similar mindset.

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    • HA! TOLD YOU THE NAZIS WERE GAY!

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    • Foodblender wrote: HA! TOLD YOU THE NAZIS WERE GAY!

      They also typed many of their reports in all capital letters. Make of that what you will.

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    • Huh, it does feel good to type at your level.

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    • BobLogical wrote:

      The Halter of Wind wrote: In Fact, the Nazis were vehemently opposed to any form of homosexuality, so how can NervousShipper be a Nazi?

      Actually, there was an entire regimen of Nazi soldiers well known for their homosexuality. They denied it, though. For more information, watch the Red Ribbon saga of Dragon Ball and General Blue.

      Really? That's interesting. I was under the impression that the Nazis arrested and imprisoned both homosexuals and the disabled, so I'll have to look into that.

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    • The Halter of Wind wrote:

      BobLogical wrote:

      The Halter of Wind wrote: In Fact, the Nazis were vehemently opposed to any form of homosexuality, so how can NervousShipper be a Nazi?

      Actually, there was an entire regimen of Nazi soldiers well known for their homosexuality. They denied it, though. For more information, watch the Red Ribbon saga of Dragon Ball and General Blue.

      Really? That's interesting. I was under the impression that the Nazis arrested and imprisoned both homosexuals and the disabled, so I'll have to look into that.

      They did. In fact, the only reason we dirty westerners see pink as a feminine color is because of Hitler. When the Nazis started putting pink triangles on homosexual's clothing, we had to switch because ICKY GAY PEOPLE. Before then, boys wore pink and girls wore blue. And everyone wore white dresses as small children.

      Gender roles are bullshit. Fight the patriarchy, since they're supported by the literal Nazis.

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    • NervousShipper wrote: Huh, it does feel good to type at your level.

      YOU NEED TO TYPE IN CAPS TO TYPE AT MY LEVEL!!!!

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    • HAHA I WIN A MORAL VICTORY LOL

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    • I'm not sure you know what morality is, Foody.

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    • On the other hand, if the mods are actually here why aren't they doing anything about the obvious troll?

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    • NervousShipper wrote: On the other hand, if the mods are actually here why aren't they doing anything about the obvious troll?

      Yeah, kind of curious, isn't it? I mean, they're always on me when I'm dickslapping homophobic people. Wonder where they all went suddenly.

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    • We can fairly judge based off of their actions and inactions what kind of people they are.

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    • FirelordxMako wrote:
      I will never accept this korrasami...Neither will anyone else.


      My nephews accepted it. Don't presume to speak for everybody,

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    • hm...let's see now:

      Mako and Bolin, being the closest to Korra aside from Asami in terms of friends, will try to give their support to them (Bolin doing better than Mako, since Bolin wasn't in a romantic relationship with both of them).

      Naga and pabu...their animals, so, probably wouldn't bother much with it.

      the air acolyte family will be a bit mixed with this sorta thing. Ikki, being more joyful and open, and Meelo (being the naïve sod that he is) would probably take it better than the rest of their family.

      Lin Beifong, well, I dunno but probably would take some time before she accepts it.

      Korra's parents would give their support to their daughter's decision.

      Desna and Eska...probably the same reaction as they do with everything, lacking any emotion...

      Huan is anyone's guess.

      Suyin, Opal, Wing and Wei would probably try their support (Opal and Suyin especially)

      Varrick, being very open-minded and spontaneous, would probably take the relationship the best outta everyone else. and Zhu Li would just go along with Varrick.

      The rest of bolin and mako's family would...well, like Huan, it's anyone's guess.

      Kya would give her support, and Bumi would be a bit mixed.

      Wu would, most likely, see this as very weird (since he is a lady's man, and tried his luck with Korra anyway).

      And the rest, I have no clue. So, the bottom line is that they would be mostly mixed, while some (Like Bolin, Ikki, or Varrick) would give their overall support to them.

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    • Love Robin wrote:
      Folks, there are threads for discussing their orientation!;THIS thread is for YOUR TAKE on the in-universe reactions of the various characters
      If you want to discuss your personal views on them as a couple and how or not there was build-up, take it to the other threads.

      As *I* see them…
      • Pema will be very happy and supportive, as will the kids, tho Ikki will ask a dozen questions.
      • Tenzin will be a little more surprised, mainly because he has a blind side when it comes to most interpersonal dynamics
      • Wu, after trying a last pitch to change their minds with a date, will offer to sing at their wedding
      • Varrick will want to do a romantic mover epic *coughsomewhat*inspired*somewhatcough* by them
      • Bolin will say something unwittingly silly and get arm-punched by Opal
      • Mako will stutter in surprise, look back and forth at each, offer his congratulations, and go find a bar.
      • Lin: "Whatever"
      • Raiko will form a study group to see how it will affect his polls

      Yes.

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    • In the Avatar universe, I doubt anyone will be against it (confused maybe, but not against). They are more accepting to diversity than us in this world and I imagine that a lot would even be jealous with their kind of relationship.

      It's not in my place to say but also, I don't really know if their romantic relationship will work out for long (personally, I like the more as best friends than lovers) probably due to the fact that I think Korra had outgrown Asami. Even so, I have no doubt they're still two of the closest people in their world and unlike Mako and Korra, their relationship is and will remain stronger with or without the romance.  

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    • Why would the avatarverse be homophobic? Homophobia comes from religion, which warped society. They don't have the abrahamic faiths, which means their cultures also haven't had contact with people of those faiths, so there's no reason for any of them to be homophobic.

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    • I'm going to assume Korra and Asami aren't the only gay couple in the avatarverse. Going to go even further and say Korra  probably isn't the first gay Avatar either.

      So I believe most would be fine with the pairing - some of them may be a little confused. Mako would probably be the only I could see having an issue, but that's more due to the fact that he was romantically involved with both.

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    • Korraava wrote:
      In the Avatar universe, I doubt anyone will be against it (confused maybe, but not against). They are more accepting to diversity than us in this world and I imagine that a lot would even be jealous with their kind of relationship.

      It's not in my place to say but also, I don't really know if their romantic relationship will work out for long (personally, I like the more as best friends than lovers) probably due to the fact that I think Korra had outgrown Asami. Even so, I have no doubt they're still two of the closest people in their world and unlike Mako and Korra, their relationship is and will remain stronger with or without the romance.  

      I never thought of Korra and Asami as a couple.  They seemed more like surrogate sisters to each other.  Both were only children; Asami lost her mother at a young age, and Korra has been the avatar her whole life.  they could confide with each other and ask for advice, but a romantic relationship seems forced.

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    • Again. To discuss their relationship, orientation, and attitudes toward it, there are threads for that.

      THIS Thread is for YOUR TAKE on the IN-UNIVERSE reactions of the characters
      That said, the avatarverse is not all that accepting of diversity. Man vs Spirits. Nation vs Outsiders. Benders vs Non-Benders. There are plenty of examples where there is one camp adverse to those of another camp. Remember that one Chin Village Elder… "That's why we call it 'justice', cause it's just us!"
      I can even imagine that if we were talking about any same-gender-couple among the New Airbenders that someone might object to healthy breedable people not doing their part for the rebuilding of the nation.
      PLEASE, instead of responding to this here, Quote-cut-and-paste to one of the other threads about the relationship. 
      (post a link to it)
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    • They'll react the way they should: appreciate the fact that two people who love each other very much have finally entered a relationship.

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    • Dragonboy6491 wrote: They'll react the way they should: appreciate the fact that two people who love each other very much have finally entered a relationship.

      Precisely.

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    • Korra and Asami came back from the Spirit World and visited Mako at his place.

      Korra: Hey Mako. Uhm... There's something we want to tell you.
      Asami: Korra and I... well, we're kinda of together... as in...
      Mako: It took you guys long enough. I'm happy for you both.
      Korra: Wha---. How long have you known?
      Mako: After the whole Unavaatu thing, our apartment was trashed so Tenzin invited us to stay at Air Temple Island. I saw the way you two looked at each other...
      Asami: So that's why you didn't stay. Oh, Mako. I'm so sorry...
      Mako: No, don't apologize. It was hard for me at first. I felt like I was drifting apart from everyone. But I dealt with it. What matters is you two are happy together.
      Korra: Thank you so much, Mako. What about you, Bolin? You okay with this?
      Mako: Bolin?! Where did you guys come from?
      Bolin: You and Asami are together?! Mako! You knew about this and never told your own brother? Tu, did you know about this?
      Tu: [Slurps his drink]
      Grandma Yin: Poor Mako. I was hoping one of you girls be the mother of my great-grandchildren.
      Wu: So... can I interest you ladies in a royal threesome?
      Kuvira: [Earth-catapults Wu's ass all the way to Lake Laogai]
      Jinora: Dad, I'm confused. I've never read anything about a romance between a woman and another woman. How is this possible?
      Tenzin: Sticks out his tongue and tenz-out.
      Pema: Sweetie, love comes in all forms and from many different places. Lin, you don't seem surprised about this.
      Lin: I've been on the beat long before I dated Tenzin. I've seen it all, hon.
      Opal: Don't look at me. My family is already messed up.
      Wei: Does this mean Mako is available?
      Wing: Back off, Wei! You know I liked him first!
      Huan: Oh please... Spare me the drama.
      Toph: If any of you ladies want to have kids, I know a healer who can impregnate you with a sperm donor of your choice.
      Suyin: MOM!
      Zombie Amon: Dishonor on you! Dishonor on your cow!
      Zaheer: Korrasami is canon. Accept what has happened, and you will be a stronger person.
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    • Zaheer: [X happened]. Accept what has happened, and you will be a stronger person.

      I want this to be a meme. Somebody make it happen.

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    • Not my preferred example, but it's for the greater good.

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    • Hasdi wrote:
      Korra and Asami came back from the Spirit World and visited Mako at his place.
      Korra: Hey Mako. Uhm... There's something we want to tell you.
      Asami: Korra and I... well, we're kinda of together... as in...
      Mako: It took you guys long enough. I'm happy for you both.
      Korra: Wha---. How long have you known?
      Mako: After the whole Unavaatu thing, our apartment was trashed so Tenzin invited us to stay at Air Temple Island. I saw the way you two looked at each other...
      Asami: So that's why you didn't stay. Oh, Mako. I'm so sorry...
      Mako: No, don't apologize. It was hard for me at first. I felt like I was drifting apart from everyone. But I dealt with it. What matters is you two are happy together.
      Korra: Thank you so much, Mako. What about you, Bolin? You okay with this?
      Mako: Bolin?! Where did you guys come from?
      Bolin: You and Asami are together?! Mako! You knew about this and never told your own brother? Tu, did you know about this?
      Tu: [Slurps his drink]
      Grandma Yin: Poor Mako. I was hoping one of you girls be the mother of my great-grandchildren.
      Wu: So... can I interest you ladies in a royal threesome?
      Kuvira: [Earth-catapults Wu's ass all the way to Lake Laogai]
      Jinora: Dad, I'm confused. I've never read anything about a romance between a woman and another woman. How is this possible?
      Tenzin: Sticks out his tongue and tenz-out.
      Pema: Sweetie, love comes in all forms and from many different places. Lin, you don't seem surprised about this.
      Lin: I've been on the beat long before I dated Tenzin. I've seen it all, hon.
      Opal: Don't look at me. My family is already messed up.
      Wei: Does this mean Mako is available?
      Wing: Back off, Wei! You know I liked him first!
      Huan: Oh please... Spare me the drama.
      Toph: If any of you ladies want to have kids, I know a healer who can impregnate you with a sperm donor of your choice.
      Suyin: MOM!
      Zombie Amon: Dishonor on you! Dishonor on your cow!
      Zaheer: Korrasami is canon. Accept what has happened, and you will be a stronger person.

      lolthis

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    • I imagine that homophobia doesn't exist in this universe. A lot of it in our world comes from certain religions and their teachings, people probably wouldn't believe in the same things we do because the whole situations with "higher beings" is different. Furthermore, spiritual things in this series mostly really come down to tolerance and peace, yes?

      And remember that it follows our style of our 1920s, but it is not actually our 1920s. You can't really interpret it off of what our culture was like at the time because that culture was formed from beliefs and standards that don't exist in the Avatar world.

      Probably the only person who will really have any sort of problem/not-be-immediately-excited is Mako. Who wouldn't be a bit uncomfortable that the two girls you dated are now dating each other?

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    • Reimeille wrote:
      I imagine that homophobia doesn't exist in this universe. A lot of it in our world comes from certain religions and their teachings, people probably wouldn't believe in the same things we do because the whole situations with "higher beings" is different. Furthermore, spiritual things in this series mostly really come down to tolerance and peace, yes?

      And remember that it follows our style of our 1920s, but it is not actually our 1920s. You can't really interpret it off of what our culture was like at the time because that culture was formed from beliefs and standards that don't exist in the Avatar world.

      Probably the only person who will really have any sort of problem/not-be-immediately-excited is Mako. Who wouldn't be a bit uncomfortable that the two girls you dated are now dating each other?

      Well we have't seen any other lebian coupals in the Avatar series.

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    • That's because it's Nickelodeon. It's a kids show, and the religious right want all gays dead so yeah, they would protest the show if there were.

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    • Again. To discuss their relationship, orientation, and attitudes toward it, there are threads for that.

      THIS Thread is for YOUR TAKE on the IN-UNIVERSE reactions of the characters
      That said, the avatarverse is not all that accepting of diversity. Man vs Spirits. Nation vs Outsiders. Benders vs Non-Benders. There are plenty of examples where there is one camp adverse to those of another camp. Remember that one Chin Village Elder… "That's why we call it 'justice', cause it's just us!"
      I can even imagine that if we were talking about any same-gender-couple among the New Airbenders that someone might object to healthy breedable people not doing their part for the rebuilding of the nation.
      PLEASE, instead of responding to this here, Quote-cut-and-paste to one of the other threads about the relationship. 
      (post a link to it)
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    • Love Robin wrote:
      Again. To discuss their relationship, orientation, and attitudes toward it, there are threads for that.;THIS Thread is for YOUR TAKE on the IN-UNIVERSE reactions of the characters
      That said, the avatarverse is not all that accepting of diversity. Man vs Spirits. Nation vs Outsiders. Benders vs Non-Benders. There are plenty of examples where there is one camp adverse to those of another camp. Remember that one Chin Village Elder… "That's why we call it 'justice', cause it's just us!"
      I can even imagine that if we were talking about any same-gender-couple among the New Airbenders that someone might object to healthy breedable people not doing their part for the rebuilding of the nation.
      PLEASE, instead of responding to this here, Quote-cut-and-paste to one of the other threads about the relationship.
      (post a link to it)

      Isn't this relevant to in universe reactions, though? We're talking about how people in the series would react (except for the comment right above yours).

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    • In response to what you said though, all of these "versus" are very different things. Benders and non-benders actually affects things (benders abusing powers, non-benders being helpless), the intertwining of man and spirit in a single world actually affects things, the clashing of two cultures in one place can affect things. A girl dating a girl are pretty arbitrary compared to those when there isn't anything like religious rules to make it any bigger a deal than any other relationship.

      I know sometimes it makes people uncomfortable to bring religion into a conversation (and I'm not trying to get off topic or start anything, honestly) but I'm just trying to make the point that other sexualities have only ever been condemned in our world because religions have dictated that should be that way. Avatar religion and philosophy doesn't work the same way as far as we know.

      So like you said about Airbenders, the only issue would quite literally have to do with reproducing/breeding. I'd agree that there might be an issue (or at least disappointment) amongst the Airbenders, or anywhere with any sort of population issues/endangered peoples.

      And as far as Korra and Asami themselves go, people would probably be disappointed that they could never see the blood children of the Avatar of their era, and that Future Industries will not have a blood-related heir.

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    • Reimeille wrote: Isn't this relevant to in universe reactions, though? We're talking about how people in the series would react (except for the comment right above yours).

      Quite literally these very same points and counterpoints have been made—indeed still being made—in three other threads. We don't need a fourth. This thread is in fact a spin-off from one where a simpler form of the OP was asked, and it recommended as deserving of its own thread.

      Wolf 91 wrote: Well we have't seen any other lebian coupals in the Avatar series.

      Not overtly, no. A fanon case is being made about a pair of the neuvo airbender girls. Always seen together, side-by-side, and holding each other. But if Bryke could not be as open about Korrasami as they wanted to be, they certainly can't call direct attention to another femmeslash couple floating about the BG.

      While Nick may have eventually greenlit Korrasami, we don't know the amount of convincing Bryke poured into it.

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    • Mako: a little suprised, replies awkwardly, but does not oppose the relationship

      Bolin: same as Mako, however replies less awkwardly and is more suprised

      Naga and Pabu: Not sure

      Tenzin: same reaction to that of Jinora and Kai

      Pema: supportive

      Jinora: confused

      Ikki: confused

      Meelo: confused, but accepts

      Kai: same as Bolin

      Lin: apathy, or does some cynical and sassy remark such as I guess Mako didn't work out.

      Suyin: same as Bolin, just a less intense emotional reaction

      Baatar: combination of apathy and bolin's reaction

      Desna/Eska: confused

      Opal: similar to Bolin

      Zaheer: Amused/ Apathy

      Kuvira: Amused/Apathy

      Toph: same as bolin, or a more cynical and sassy remark like I wonder if Aang has to percieve Asami kissing him. Though Toph does not know Asami, so she will ask for her name and so on.

      Varrick: Gets some enthusiastic reaction and rambles about how Korra and Asami could become mover stars.

      Zhu Lee: supportive

      Wu: starts rambling about how hot they are

      Zuko: react like Mako

      Iroh 1: supportive

      Iroh 2: supportive

      Katara: also supportive

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    • Love Robin wrote:

      Reimeille wrote: Isn't this relevant to in universe reactions, though? We're talking about how people in the series would react (except for the comment right above yours).

      Quite literally these very same points and counterpoints have been made—indeed still being made—in three other threads. We don't need a fourth. This thread is in fact a spin-off from one where a simpler form of the OP was asked, and it recommended as deserving of its own thread.

      Sorry that I don't look through every thread on the Avatar Wiki :V It is still relevant to this one though, so you can't really get upset, my friend. You can't really tell someone "don't talk about this because someone already did", when it's still fully relevant.

      I don't know how Avatar Wiki in particular works (or who the admins are around here) but in this case you might benefit by contacting one of them and asking them to merge, delete, or otherwise manage these threads, rather than policing them yourself...

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      • How will Mako react when he finds out? He will look at Asami and say, "I have your back, too."
      • How will Bolin react when he finds out? He'll offer to officiate at their wedding.
      • How will Naga and Pabu react when they find out? They'll be happy that they can play together in courtyards all the time now.
      • How will Tenzin react when he finds out? He will give Korra a warm embrace then offer to give her and Asami a "brief" 10 day, 8 hours per day, marriage prep course "...but of course that will only scratch the surface."
      • How will Pema react when she finds out? Her face will light up with joy for the two.
      • How will Jinora react when she finds out? She'll offer to be their tour guide in the Spirit World.
      • How will Ikki react when she finds out? Ikki will ask a million questions, like, "When did you know you were in love?" "Korra's a terrible driver, when you are married will you still let her drive your cars?" "How many swimming pools will your house have?"
      • How will Meelo react when he finds out? The little Napoleon will be too busy plotting his next takeover to even notice.
      • How will Kai react when he finds out? He will look at them and wonder if maybe now is a good time to start taking his relationship with Jinora to a new level.
      • How will Lin react when she finds out? She'll do The Beifong "Meh"
      • How will Suyin react when she finds out? She'll start planning every aspect of the wedding and offer to choreograph the dancers herself.
      • How will Baatar react when he finds out? Poor Baatar is still recovering from Kuvira's treachery, and when he hears the news, this will renew old wounds and he'll spend the day crying in his bedroom, wondering why love went so wrong for him.
      • How will Tonraq and Senna both react when they find out? They will smile with joy, give Asami a huge hug, and be so happy that their daughter is happy.
      • How will Desna and Eska react when they find out? Eska will say, "I always knew there was something weird between those two" then she and Desna will go off to share a hotel room with just one bed. But of course, Desna sleeps in the tub. Yup.
      • How will Huan react when he finds out? He will salvage an innard from the giant mecha and metal bend it into a sculpture that he will entitle "The True Meaning of Love"
      • How will Opal react when she finds out? She will look at them and wonder if maybe now is a good time to start taking her relationship with Bolin to a new level.
      • How will Wei and Wing react when they find out? Shrug their shoulders and go out for another rousing round of whatever metalbending game it was that they invented.
      • How will Varrick and Zhu Li react when he finds out? Varrick will try to figure out how he can leverage this to gain more control of Future Industries, and Zhu Li will execute his nefarious plan, which in the end will turn out happily and make Varrick, Zhu Li, Korra and Asami ridiculously more wealthy than they already are.
      • How will YinChow, Tu and the reast of Mako and Bolin's family react when they find out? They will wonder if that means they can stay in Asami's gorgeous country home a bit longer.
      • How will Kya and Bumi react when they both find out? Kya will give them some meaningful Water Tribe artifact as a gift, along with her love and some wisdom. Bumi will use the occasion of the news to tell Korra and Asami about the times when he was young and in love with a sea captain and had to rescue him once from a dark spirit, an invading army, and a hurricane all at once while using only his bootlaces and a few sticks.
      • How will Wu react when he finds out? Wu is off wandering the world with a decendent of his great-uncle's bear and does not hear the news for years.
      • How will Raiko and Buttercup react when they find out? Raiko will be overjoyed, because Asami is the voice of reason and now he can work with her instead of that stubborn, hot-headed Korra. Buttercup will shrug her shoulders and schedule her next facelift.
      • How will Gommu react when he finds out? He will ask if he can be invited to the wedding. Free food!
      • How will the White Falls Wolfbats react when they find out? Offer to play at their wedding, too.
      • How will Lu and Gang react when they find out? Those two are too busy eating Varrick-Cakes to care.
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      • How will Wei and Wing react when they find out? Shrug their shoulders and go out for another rousing round of whatever metalbending game it was that they invented.

      Power Disk. Basically a metalbender version of air hockey.

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      • How will Mako react when he finds out?

      Says he's happy for them, really a bit hurt by it, and is mopey and broody for a while. Gets over it fairly quickly though. Two of his best friends are happy, and that's what matters.

      • How will Bolin react when he fids out?

      "Wow... just wow."

      • How will Naga and Pabu react when they find out?

      Naga will lick Asami, demand treats and for her to throw a ball. Pabu doesn't care.

      • How will Tenzin react when he finds out?

      "What... that's... it's against tradition, you're the Avatar! But I guess you *are* the Avatar. I'm truly happy that you've found happiness with each other"

      • How will Pema react when she finds out?

      Happy for them, wants to know if they want practice looking after kids

      • How will Jinora react when she finds out?

      Smiles cause she already knew it and tells them about time

      • How will Ikki react when she finds out?

      Tells them they look so beautiful together and then asks a million questions

      • How will Meelo react when he finds out?

      Disappointment cause Korra stole *his* girl. Then doesn't think anything of it.

      • How will Kai react when he finds out?

      A little surprised

      • How will Lin react when she finds out?

      "And I thought I had seen it all being on the police force"

      • How will Suyin react when she finds out?

      Delighted for the two girls

      • How will Baatar react when he finds out?

      Anger! Needs to work through problems with what happened with Kuvira

      • How will Tonraq and Senna both react when they find out?

      Very happy for their daughter. Perhaps slightly confused at first, but Korra has never been one to do what you'd expect

      Eska "How Amusing. Our cousin apparently wishes to end the family line" Desna laughs.

      • How will Huan react when he finds out?

      Makes some artwork. Unconventional lovers, what an amazing theme!

      • How will Opal react when she finds out?

      Happy for them

      Think it's a distraction from their games

      "But we were the couple everyone was talking about... Hey, I have a great idea for a mover..."

      • How will YinChow, Tu and the reast of Mako and Bolin's family react when they find out?

      Tease Mako severely. Yin disapproves because Mako missed out.

      • How will Kya and Bumi react when they both find out?

      Kya will be very happy for them that they have found happiness. Bumi will start telling a 'relevant' story causing Kya and Tenzin to facepalm before stopping him.

      • How will Wu react when he finds out?

      So that's why they never wanted to go out with me

      Conduct polling to see how this affects his re-election chances.

      • How will Gommu react when he finds out?

      Will tell other vagabonds that he knows them and they shared some fish this one time.

      "Wow, damn" and joke about Mako.

      Laugh and tease Mako.

      Cause they weren't on the list and I want to do them any way

      • How will Katara react when she finds out?

      Smiles. "Aang did say he though you were special" Offers some advice to Asami that she didn't want to hear

      • How will Iroh react when he finds out?

      "Do you want some tea? A game of Pai sho?"

      • How will Toph react when she finds out?

      "Guess that's one way to avoid the man problem"

      • How will Zaheer react when he finds out?

      Amused at the Avatar sowing chaos by breaking down traditions

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    • what tradition? 1 of every 10 avatars should have had a same sex relationship.

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    • There is no evidence either way, but these two are the only known LGB relationship. Even if you were assuming rates as high as 10%, that leaves 90% going the otherway which seems pretty damn "traditional" to me. We know that 3 of the last 4 Avatar's were hetro, and the 4th (Kyoshi) can probably be assumed because she had children. That is quite a few hundred years of "tradition" too.

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    • a few hundred years? The avatar lives for a few hundred years. You can't base tradition on one avatar. And of course those are the only two people in an LGB relationship because as we've said 89379804785904738 times, this is Nickelodean.

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    • A "tradition" isn't something that's statistically likely, it's passing on some kind of custom or belief through the generations. The head of state is a traditional office, even though there's usually only 1 in the entire country.

      Also, relevant.

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    • So somehow it's wrong to assume things based on the established canon of the events actually known and seen? Imposing information from our world into their world doesn't make it true. As far as we actually know, it has never happened before and this is due to a change of energies from the harmonic convergence. As I said before, there is no evidence either way. The list is just how I think the characters would react. It's purely subjective

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    • You are, of course, right to have an opinion about how the characters would react, but that doesn't preclude me from chiming in if I think that opinion is based on flawed reasoning.

      You're "imposing information from our world" when you call it "a tradition," & more specifically, from certain cultures, because others DID have traditions of same sex relationships.

      Saying that "we don't know it's happened before, this could just be from Harmonic Convergence" is getting rather absurd. Bryan's whole point was that people find things like this "unnatural" or "weird" due to "a paradigm that marginalizes non-heterosexual people."

      Of course he wouldn't turn around & say that homosexuality is some bizarre freak of nature that didn't exist for thousands of years, that contradicts his entire point.

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    • So my reasoning is flawed because it's based *purely* on known canonical information?

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    • MonoWench wrote: So my reasoning is flawed because it's based *purely* on known canonical information?

      It isn't & I said how it isn't. If you want to be deliberately obtuse, that's also your prerogative.

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    • Of course I'm going to be obtuse when you're arguing that your headcanon being different to mine somehow makes mine wrong.

      Neo Bahamut wrote: but that doesn't preclude me from chiming in if I think that opinion is based on flawed reasoning.
      Neo Bahamut wrote: It isn't & I said how it isn't.

      Obviously if my reasoning wasn't flawed said anything? But you have, so which is it then?

      Your point is easy enough to understand, but as far as I am concerned it's being meta as it's making assumptions of which there are no canonical facts that support it. And yes I'm being slightly meta as well by assuming there aren't additional facts on which I am basing my assumptions.

      TBH I see their relationship being something very important for their society as much as it is being important as ground breaking for children's animation. If there were future stories then it would, IMO, be a very good thing if it were shown that they were having to deal with the issues of heteronormativity. I may not be idealistic, but that is one of those things that also is never shown or explored, and for those of us who may be dealing with such issues, it would be supportive. Two of the most powerful women in the world, fighting the odds, making the world a better place so everyone can be themselves. Of course this point is pretty much completely irrelevant, as the story is finished, there will be no more.

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    • ...I was obviously stating that your logic is not based on canon. There is no reference to heterosexuality being "traditional" in the canon. Anywhere.

      I have no "headcanon," just facts.

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    • Well knowing that now, the creators probably go full libtard, in the comics and make gay marriage legel in Republic city. Also Mako would be pissed, Bolin would be awkward, Tenzin would be unconfortable due to Air Nomads being quite conservative, Pemma would be liberal on it, should I say more.

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    • No, you shouldn't say more. You're clearly a republican, and they need to be stopped.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      No, you shouldn't say more. You're clearly a republican, and they need to be stopped.


      I'm more of a fascist than republican, but whatever.

      THE GAY AGENGDA MUST BE CRUSHED BY ANY MEANS. HAHAHAHAHA

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    • Oh sh!t, Fred Phelps has an internet connection in hell!

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Oh sh!t, Fred Phelps has an internet connection in hell!


      THAT'S RIGHT I MADE THE DEAL WITH THA DEVIL, TO HAUNT GAYS IN THE COMPUTER

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    • And since it's in hell, the caps lock is stuck on.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      And since it's in hell, the caps lock is stuck on.

      OHAHAHAHAHHA, YES YES.

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    • Hmm... nobody else picked up that Wei has been hinted as gay/bisexual so he would be supportive of Korrasami? Icon_eh.gif Not sure about his identical twin brother though.

      https://38.media.tumblr.com/b087f404208c009e1f4bd1c4569d31f1/tumblr_ng5krw1Uub1rga3f7o1_500.gif
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    • Makei? Weiko?

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    • Hasdi wrote:
      Hmm... nobody else picked up that Wei has been hinted as gay/bisexual so he would be supportive of Korrasami? Icon_eh.gif Not sure about his identical twin brother though.

      https://38.media.tumblr.com/b087f404208c009e1f4bd1c4569d31f1/tumblr_ng5krw1Uub1rga3f7o1_500.gif


      I think that was a joke.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Makei? Weiko?

      That's Bolin, though.

      And ohhhh trust me people caught on to that moment. The girls loved it pfft

      And, if Wei is bisexual/gay, I think that regardless of whether Wing was or not, he would still be supportive because they're pretty inseparable. If the person you love and are closest to the most is gay you would learn to accept/tolerate it, I'd imagine.

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    • I suspect that gay marriage is already a thing in Republic City.

      That part was not pure fact, in case I didn't make it clear.

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    • Reimeille wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Makei? Weiko?
      That's Bolin, though.

      And ohhhh trust me people caught on to that moment. The girls loved it pfft

      And, if Wei is bisexual/gay, I think that regardless of whether Wing was or not, he would still be supportive because they're pretty inseparable. If the person you love and are closest to the most is gay you would learn to accept/tolerate it, I'd imagine.

      "Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions."G.K Chesterton

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    • Lustful Lao wrote:
      I think that was a joke.

      Ha... that was funny. Icon_lolno.gif

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    • Hasdi wrote:
      Lustful Lao wrote:
      I think that was a joke.
      Ha... that was funny. Icon_lolno.gif

      Funny to me though, homosexual jokes are very funny.

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    • Reimeille wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Makei? Weiko?
      That's Bolin, though.

      And ohhhh trust me people caught on to that moment. The girls loved it pfft

      And, if Wei is bisexual/gay, I think that regardless of whether Wing was or not, he would still be supportive because they're pretty inseparable. If the person you love and are closest to the most is gay you would learn to accept/tolerate it, I'd imagine.

      Yeah, but Bolin is with Opal. Mako has no one, so there's his guy.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Reimeille wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Makei? Weiko?
      That's Bolin, though.

      And ohhhh trust me people caught on to that moment. The girls loved it pfft

      And, if Wei is bisexual/gay, I think that regardless of whether Wing was or not, he would still be supportive because they're pretty inseparable. If the person you love and are closest to the most is gay you would learn to accept/tolerate it, I'd imagine.

      Yeah, but Bolin is with Opal. Mako has no one, so there's his guy.

      Mako ain't gay, if anything he'll get both Korra and Asami in the end,polygamy for the win!

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    • That would be polyamory, polygamy is something different. And I doubt it, they both know he's a bad lay.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      That would be polyamory, polygamy is something different. And I doubt it, they both know he's a bad lay.

      Woman like Bad but strong and sensitivity boys.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Reimeille wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Makei? Weiko?
      That's Bolin, though.

      And ohhhh trust me people caught on to that moment. The girls loved it pfft

      And, if Wei is bisexual/gay, I think that regardless of whether Wing was or not, he would still be supportive because they're pretty inseparable. If the person you love and are closest to the most is gay you would learn to accept/tolerate it, I'd imagine.

      Yeah, but Bolin is with Opal. Mako has no one, so there's his guy.

      You do realise that gay doesn't mean "go out with whoevers available", right? Just like being a straight guy doesn't mean "go out with any girl ever".

      If Wei did like Bolin, it's unrequited (and he wouldn't interfere because Opal is Wei's sister), but that doesn't mean he'll just grab Bolin's brother...

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    • Yes, I'm gay. I know that. But since the universe didn't collapse in on itself at the end of the show, there's no reason why Wei and Mako can't end up together, it's not like they'll never see each other, they'll be siblings in law soon enough.

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    • WeiReimeille wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Reimeille wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Makei? Weiko?
      That's Bolin, though.

      And ohhhh trust me people caught on to that moment. The girls loved it pfft

      And, if Wei is bisexual/gay, I think that regardless of whether Wing was or not, he would still be supportive because they're pretty inseparable. If the person you love and are closest to the most is gay you would learn to accept/tolerate it, I'd imagine.

      Yeah, but Bolin is with Opal. Mako has no one, so there's his guy.
      You do realise that gay doesn't mean "go out with whoevers available", right? Just like being a straight guy doesn't mean "go out with any girl ever".

      If Wei did like Bolin, it's unrequited (and he wouldn't interfere because Opal is Wei's sister), but that doesn't mean he'll just grab Bolin's brother...

      Wei aint gay, see I knew this was a bad idea shipping Korra and Asami together, now the fanfics and images will increased in numbers, MY GOD, WE'RE DOOM.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Yes, I'm gay. I know that. But since the universe didn't collapse in on itself at the end of the show, there's no reason why Wei and Mako can't end up together, it's not like they'll never see each other, they'll be siblings in law soon enough.

      I know we're getting off topic, but ok I see what you mean. I interpreted it as "gay guys will take any guy who is not already dating someone".

      imo they are kind of incompatible though personality-wise though

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    • Like Opal and Bolin?

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    • Lustful Lao wrote:
      WeiReimeille wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Reimeille wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Makei? Weiko?
      That's Bolin, though.

      And ohhhh trust me people caught on to that moment. The girls loved it pfft

      And, if Wei is bisexual/gay, I think that regardless of whether Wing was or not, he would still be supportive because they're pretty inseparable. If the person you love and are closest to the most is gay you would learn to accept/tolerate it, I'd imagine.

      Yeah, but Bolin is with Opal. Mako has no one, so there's his guy.
      You do realise that gay doesn't mean "go out with whoevers available", right? Just like being a straight guy doesn't mean "go out with any girl ever".

      If Wei did like Bolin, it's unrequited (and he wouldn't interfere because Opal is Wei's sister), but that doesn't mean he'll just grab Bolin's brother...

      Wei aint gay, see I knew this was a bad idea shipping Korra and Asami together, now the fanfics and images will increased in numbers, MY GOD, WE'RE DOOM.

      How are you going to tell me Wei isn't gay. It's basically Schrodinger's cat. Or, Schrodinger's Wei. Until we actually see confirmation that he is gay, he both is and isn't --- EQUALLY.

      Not hitting on a guy doesn't make him not gay/bisexual, either. Just means he isn't interested in anyone around or isn't the type to flirt. Remember that Korra never openly hit on a girl, and she's canon bisexual.

      Maybe we should open another topic for Wei if we're gonna keep going though but I just wanted to point this out

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    • Reimeille wrote:
      Lustful Lao wrote:
      WeiReimeille wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Reimeille wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Makei? Weiko?
      That's Bolin, though.

      And ohhhh trust me people caught on to that moment. The girls loved it pfft

      And, if Wei is bisexual/gay, I think that regardless of whether Wing was or not, he would still be supportive because they're pretty inseparable. If the person you love and are closest to the most is gay you would learn to accept/tolerate it, I'd imagine.

      Yeah, but Bolin is with Opal. Mako has no one, so there's his guy.
      You do realise that gay doesn't mean "go out with whoevers available", right? Just like being a straight guy doesn't mean "go out with any girl ever".

      If Wei did like Bolin, it's unrequited (and he wouldn't interfere because Opal is Wei's sister), but that doesn't mean he'll just grab Bolin's brother...

      Wei aint gay, see I knew this was a bad idea shipping Korra and Asami together, now the fanfics and images will increased in numbers, MY GOD, WE'RE DOOM.
      How are you going to tell me Wei isn't gay. It's basically Schrodinger's cat. Or, Schrodinger's Wei. Until we actually see confirmation that he is gay, he both is and isn't --- EQUALLY.

      Not hitting on a guy doesn't make him not gay/bisexual, either. Just means he isn't interested in anyone around or isn't the type to flirt. Remember that Korra never openly hit on a girl, and she's canon bisexual.

      Maybe we should open another topic for Wei if we're gonna keep going though but I just wanted to point this out

      So you are to tell me that the creators are going to make anyone gay, if they want to, just cause they can?

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    • I can dream.

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    • Lustful Lao wrote: So you are to tell me that the creators are going to make anyone gay, if they want to, just cause they can?

      No, what I'm telling you is that not everyone is always going to be straight. If Korra and Asami did not just prove that to you, then well, there's not much else I can say to you.

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    • Reimeille wrote:
      Lustful Lao wrote: So you are to tell me that the creators are going to make anyone gay, if they want to, just cause they can?
      No, what I'm telling you is that not everyone is always going to be straight. If Korra and Asami did not just prove that to you, then well, there's not much else I can say to you.

      Well they never shown it before, why now, because 2013 is not 2005

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    • Ah, the age-old paradox of whether to respond & feed the troll or ignore it & let common fallacies go unchallenged.

      And by "age old," I mean "has been a problem since I was about 13."

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Ah, the age-old paradox of whether to respond & feed the troll or ignore it & let common fallacies go unchallenged.

      And by "age old," I mean "has been a problem since I was about 13."

      You're welcome to try me.

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    • In my own opinion, their initial reaction will be like Detective Lance's when he found out Sara was Nyssa's ex in Arrow SE 2: "... Oh." (Except for Varrick [and maybe Pema and Jinora and even Wu] who would ask "Wasn't it obvious?" Aside from the obvious adjustment period, their next reaction will be thus:

      Mako: Be the most flabbergasted, show support nonetheless, but act a bit "emasculated" for a bit (" So I wasn't man enough for her, but Asami is?!"), but eventually accepts it, is happy for them and become their top supporter.

      Bolin: Initially confused but happy nonetheless (might get a little jumpy for a while though when Opal hangs out with other girls).

      Tenzin: Gets flustered and spouts a bit about tradition for a bit, before expressing happiness and support.

      Pema: "So, when's the wedding?"

      Jinora: Shows full support, though admits it will take some getting used to.

      Ikki: Same as Pema and Jinora, but asks a million more questions afterwards.

      Meelo: Claims Korra stole "his" girl, then shrugs it off (or just doesn't care).

      Kai: Same as Bolin, but more flustered and jumpy.

      Lin: Either "Meh" or "And here I thought I'd seen it all".

      Su: Same as Pema, and will offer to choreograph the dance for the wedding reception.

      Bataar Jr.: Kuvira messed him up enough, this is just the tip of the iceberg for his crappy love life to him.

      Bataar Sr.: Speechless, then awkwardly congratulates them before finding an excuse to leave.

      Wing and Wei: Same as Dad.

      Huan: See it as artistic inspiration for his next sculpture.

      Opal: Same as Jinora, though a bit more surprised at first.

      Tonraq and Senna: Senna will warm up to the idea in due time (though lament the lack of biological grandchildren), while Tonraq will be more like Mako without the "emasculated" feeling, meaning he will eventually show full support for them and warm up to the idea of a new daughter as opposed to a new son.

      Eska and Desna: (To quote MonoWench) Eska "How Amusing. Our cousin apparently wishes to end the family line" Desna laughs.

      Varrick: Aside from finding it totally obvious, he would probably want to make a mover about them.

      Zhu Li: Same as Pema and Suyin, albeit a bit more awkwardly.

      Mako and Bolin's Folks: Granny Yin would blame Mako for it ("Look what you did, Mako! Now these pretty young ladies want nothing to do with men!" [smacks Mako in the arm]). The rest would probably tease him for not getting either one, compounding his sense of emasculation.

      Kya: Expresses her joy at their newfound happiness.

      Bumi: "Uhhhhhhhhhh, coming Mom! (Runs off, accepts it later, and contemplates if Kya's actually a Lesbian before getting Water-smacked into the bay).

      Wu: Says he knew all along, but has to comfort himself afterwards (or tries to convince himself that it's the reason they wouldn't date him).

      Raiko: Can't help but see it as potential scandal ("Great, the press is going to have a field day after this.")

      Gommu: "Shrugs"

      Wolfbats: "What?"

      Lu and Gang: Stuff their faces while teasing Mako about how he couldn't deduce this would happen.

      Kuvira: Doesn't care.

      Zaheer: Laughs in amusement at her breaking down tradition (which would cause a form of chaos).

      Katara: Same as Pema, offer unwanted advice to the girls.

      Toph: (To quote MonoWench) "Guess that's one way to avoid the man problem" then laughs.

      Zuko: "Okay, why not?"

      General Iroh: Same as Zuko.

      Everyone else: Either OMG, WTF, or indifferent (like Ryu).

      What do you think?

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    • Deist Zealot wrote:
      As I've said in a couple of other threads: we don't even know if overt homophobia exists in the Avatarverse.  If anything, the casual Korrasami at the end implies that it may not.

      Considering Racism, sexism, Genocide, Murder ect exist its safe to say homophobia exists as well

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    • Thebridge14 wrote:

      Deist Zealot wrote:
      As I've said in a couple of other threads: we don't even know if overt homophobia exists in the Avatarverse.  If anything, the casual Korrasami at the end implies that it may not.

      Considering Racism, sexism, Genocide, Murder ect exist its safe to say homophobia exists as well

      One thing to consider is that the show is heavily based upon Eastern and Asian Cultures. So keep in mind that

      1. in current day China same-sex marriages are NOT legal.
        • I'm currently playing an online MMORP in which their in-game "marriage system" will not allow for same-gender pairs, as it is a Chinese-developed and run game.
      2. HOWEVER, in the history of these countries, such relationships used to be acceptable provided discretion of varied degrees through the ages.

      So the question is, although heavily Eastern-influenced, how much "westernization" was incorporated by Bryke.

      Food for thought.

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    • Thebridge14 wrote:

      Deist Zealot wrote:
      As I've said in a couple of other threads: we don't even know if overt homophobia exists in the Avatarverse.  If anything, the casual Korrasami at the end implies that it may not.

      Considering Racism, sexism, Genocide, Murder ect exist its safe to say homophobia exists as well

      I'm sure it "exists," but "homophobia exists" is a rule that encompasses a broad range of possibilities. If there's even 1 person out there who is prejudiced against gay people, you can say that "homophobia exists." That doesn't necessarily tell us anything about how widespread it runs or how severe it is.

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    • I hope Korra and Asami kill all of the homophobes in the avatarverse... or paralize them.

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    • Kill is a bit harsh. How about convert them by seeing the beauty of the relationship? :)

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    • Nah, fire with fire.

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    • "Let me tell you something, Mark. You humans, most of you, subscribe to this policy of an eye for an eye, a life for a life, which is known throughout the universe for its... stupidity. Even your Buddha and your Christ had quite a different vision, but nobody's paid much attention to them, not even the Buddhists or the Christians. You humans. Sometimes its hard to imagine how you've made it this far."
      — Prot in K-PAX
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    • Yeah, sorry Hasdi, but giving valentines day cards to the people who kill gays by feeding them laxatives after glueing their asses shut is not a good enough response. So save the the quotes.

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    • But ... quotes are such fun :D

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    • Yeah, but homophobes by definition are people who FEAR gays, not necessarily the lunatics who "kill gays by feeding them laxatives after glueing their asses shut." The former can still be... educated.

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    • Great then, send them to Kuvira's camp.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:

      Thebridge14 wrote:

      Deist Zealot wrote:
      As I've said in a couple of other threads: we don't even know if overt homophobia exists in the Avatarverse.  If anything, the casual Korrasami at the end implies that it may not.

      Considering Racism, sexism, Genocide, Murder ect exist its safe to say homophobia exists as well

      I'm sure it "exists," but "homophobia exists" is a rule that encompasses a broad range of possibilities. If there's even 1 person out there who is prejudiced against gay people, you can say that "homophobia exists." That doesn't necessarily tell us anything about how widespread it runs or how severe it is.

      I'm guessing people of the old and traditional ways may be objective to it. I could totally see Makos grandma being very confused or upset at first with Korra and Asami. Your right about how wide spread it would be we have no Idea.

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    • Thebridge14 wrote:

      Neo Bahamut wrote:

      Thebridge14 wrote:

      Deist Zealot wrote:
      As I've said in a couple of other threads: we don't even know if overt homophobia exists in the Avatarverse.  If anything, the casual Korrasami at the end implies that it may not.

      Considering Racism, sexism, Genocide, Murder ect exist its safe to say homophobia exists as well

      I'm sure it "exists," but "homophobia exists" is a rule that encompasses a broad range of possibilities. If there's even 1 person out there who is prejudiced against gay people, you can say that "homophobia exists." That doesn't necessarily tell us anything about how widespread it runs or how severe it is.

      I'm guessing people of the old and traditional ways may be objective to it. I could totally see Makos grandma being very confused or upset at first with Korra and Asami. Your right about how wide spread it would be we have no Idea.

      Only if there was a tradition against homosexuality in the first place. Which may even be true in one of the nations but not in others.

      Yeah, but homophobes by definition are people who FEAR gays, not necessarily the lunatics who "kill gays by feeding them laxatives after glueing their asses shut." The former can still be... educated.

      Homophobia is not a clinical phobia, it essentially means prejudice against gay people.

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    • This relationship will dafinitaly be a big suprise for many.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:

      Thebridge14 wrote:

      Neo Bahamut wrote:

      Thebridge14 wrote:

      Deist Zealot wrote:
      As I've said in a couple of other threads: we don't even know if overt homophobia exists in the Avatarverse.  If anything, the casual Korrasami at the end implies that it may not.
      Considering Racism, sexism, Genocide, Murder ect exist its safe to say homophobia exists as well

      I'm sure it "exists," but "homophobia exists" is a rule that encompasses a broad range of possibilities. If there's even 1 person out there who is prejudiced against gay people, you can say that "homophobia exists." That doesn't necessarily tell us anything about how widespread it runs or how severe it is.

      I'm guessing people of the old and traditional ways may be objective to it. I could totally see Makos grandma being very confused or upset at first with Korra and Asami. Your right about how wide spread it would be we have no Idea.

      Only if there was a tradition against homosexuality in the first place. Which may even be true in one of the nations but not in others.


      Yeah, but homophobes by definition are people who FEAR gays, not necessarily the lunatics who "kill gays by feeding them laxatives after glueing their asses shut." The former can still be... educated.

      Homophobia is not a clinical phobia, it essentially means prejudice against gay people.

      I wonder if Homophobia is common in the Azatar univarse.

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    • The world may never know.

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    • Depends I suppose on exactly how heavily Bryke envisioned from Eastern Influences. For example in China, although same-gender marriages *today* are illegal, a few dynasties back it was okay to have such lovers so long as it was not out in the in-your-face open. Incidentally this was most prevalent, at least recorded, among MM. To the point that many het marriages were bearded covers.

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    • Only the fire nation would be d!ckish enough to have homophobia, and only during ozai's time

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    • It is my understanding that homophobia is strongly correlated with misogyny. As such, I would expect the Fire Nation to be the least problematic, & the Northern Water Tribe the most.

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    • This is the world of Avatar we're talking about, not the real world.  No matter how "realistic" you want it to be, it's only up to the writers how homosexuals are normally treated in this world (assuming they'd care enough to provide details about sexuality in the world of the Avatar series).

      Otherwise, homophobia is not exclusively caused by misogyny (despite both being correlated in plenty real-world cases).  It most certainly doesn't seem that way in this series.

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    • Ifnsman wrote:

      This is the world of Avatar we're talking about, not the real world.

      For discussions, until we're told of a difference between RW and In-verse, we have to use what we know and can relate to. Tho frankly, we don't even know if the World = Earth

      Ifnsman wrote: Otherwise, homosexuality is not exclusively caused by misogyny (despite both being correlated in plenty real-world cases)

      "Homophobia" is strongly correlated to misogyny. Perhaps that is what you meant. If so, be careful of spellings.

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    • I'd even advise caution when using "real word logic" because a lot of the arguments I've seen are waaaaaaaay overly simplified & clearly come from a limited cultural context. If I only had a nickel for every time I've heard someone claim that every religion regards homosexuality as a sin.

      That said, the notion that we can't use the real world as a basis for making educated guesses makes even less sense.

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    • Oh hears another one How will the Press react when thay find out?

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    • Ask prying questions.

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    • Hmmm..... let's try to make it as fitting as possible:

      Mako will most likely panic and question what's wrong with him before Korra and Asami can calm him down and explain everything. After that he'll most likely be fine with it. They're two of his closest friends after all. Bolin might be dumb founded that something like this exists but be fine with it aswell.

      Tenzin and his family might have rather different reactions:

      Tenzins, Kya and Bumi might be a bit confused on how to react to this because they most likely never dealt with with LGTBQ relationships before. Pema on the other hand might be more open minded about it. 

      Jinorah, Ikki and Meelo might be fine with it. Meelo might be annoyed that Korra snatched his crush, Ikki most likely will ask them tons of question about the whole thing, "How did Mako react? Was he embarrased? Did his head explode? Did you had to put his brain back in? Did you...?", and Jinorah would just be happy for Korra finally having someone (she did mention that she reads romance stuff in Book 1 so I guess she's that kind of romantic person). 

      Kai might share a bit of Bolin's reaction and parts of Lu and Gang's.

      Korra's parents most likely share Tenzins confusion and might have some sentiments against it but try to be as supportive as possible.

      President Raiko will most likely hope that this will not affect his political career since he frequently deals with the Avatar and coerces Korra and Asami to secrecy about it. And his wife might not care at all.

      Desna and Eska will most likely be like "Yeah, whatever."

      Suyin's side of the Bei Fongs seem like extremly open minded people so they'll most likely not only be accepting but welcoming of this development.

      Lin will most likely not care for it at all. After all there are more important things to do than thinking about other people relationship. As long as they don't break any laws with it (I don't think there are explicit laws against same sex relationships in the Avatar world but there might as well be cultural resentiments) she has no problem with it.

      Lu and Gang seem like the "Girl on girl is hot" kinda guys so they would approve of it. Even if it's for slightly the wrong reason.

      Yin might have more sentiments against this but since she's a ridicously kind old lady I think her first reaction is to pity them for having to settle for eachother instead of boys (because she really believes that this is the only reason for entering a same sex relationship). The rest of Mako's and Bolins family might be all over the map with this, some accepting, some opposing and everyone teasing Mako with this development.

      Why did you put Gommu on the list? Oh well, I'd say same as Lu and Gang.

      Wu would.... this <http://www.deviantart.com/art/Let-s-Go-On-A-Vacation-506548846

      Can't really say much about the Wolfbats reaction. But Thano will most likely be overly cocky and try to convince them to a threesome. He just seems like that kinda guy.

      Pabu and Naga don't care as long as they keep the snacks coming.

      Zhu Li might be indifferent to it but Varrick might come up with like a million ways to prfoit from that.

      Bonus:

      The general public would be all over the map with it ranging from accepting to not caring for it to: *Banjo music playing* "Ya know Roy? That Unavaatu fella may wanted to plunge de world into eternal darkness, but at least he wasn't a dang fagget." *spits chewing tobacco into a bucket* And all the other LGTBQ people, that probably exist in the setting, might be quite pleased with it since now they have the Avatar who maybe can help and support them.

      Toph's reaction could be like: "Wow, I didn't knew that he would take 'Twinkletoes' as an euphemism."

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    • Deist Zealot wrote: Ask prying questions.

      "Is scissoring a real thing?"

      "I don't know what that means."

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    • I think by this point, everyone else around who knows them would have caught on. Even though the official word is that their relationship "began" when they decided to go through the portal together, let's do some backtracking.

      In book 1, Korra had a quick, whirlwind romance with Mako, and another with Bolin, before going back to Mako. Which wasn't TERRIBLY shocking, given that she was 16 at the time so HELLO HORMONES, and was literally DAYS removed from being so sheltered in her life she barely knew anyone outside of teachers and sparring partners, certainly not enough to develop relationships with. She and Asami got off to a rocky start due to the whole love-triangle-with-Mako thing, but after that settled, they became great friends.

      In book 2, she was with Mako... More or less. At the end of the season, they realized while they both did have passion, their personalities and lifestyles just couldn't match up, so they broke it off. Throughout it, Asami and Korra remained friends, though didn't necessarily get 'close'.

      In book 3, things got interesting. Who helped out Korra on a personal level more than anyone else? Asami. She was always there for support, helping her with training yes, but also talking stuff out, dealing with things. Mako and Bolin helped with fighting and planning, yes, but she rarely opened up to anyone at all, and when she did? It was usually Asami. Heck, after the whole ordeal with the Red Lotus, when Korra was confined to a wheelchair, we see her sharing an incredibly intimate moment with Asami, where she was helping Korra get dressed for the ceremony. Okay, yes, she was the "only" girl around to help out that wasn't a little kid, but the way they interacted turned the shippers from "wouldn't it be neat if" to "ONE TRUE PAIR FOREVER" mode. That's not even getting to the Katara/Aang-Asami/Korra parallels when escaping the Red Lotus ambush.

      Book 4 sealed it. Asami was willing to go to the South Pole with Korra at the drop of a hat, no hesitation. In three years, Korra wrote a SINGLE letter, and that was to Asami. Once reunited, they spend about 3 minutes complimenting each other and making each other blush. Almost EVERY SINGLE interaction between them (that isn't some critical moment) is tinged with intimacy and romance. The obvious one was the scene where Asami took some tea out to her. As it was put on Tumblr: "Taking tea to someone from the south pole, who is literally never not in a tank top, who is innured to ice and has techniques to warm herself, because she 'might be cold' ~ only Asami things". And of course, the return of 'you're so sweet' wasn't exactly said teasingly or in a friendly way.

      If their relationship only "started" after the Varrick/Zhu Li wedding, it was only because that's when they decided to be honest with their feelings and finally make it "official". That said, the creators have said that they wanted to make their relationship more open and obvious and explicit on the show, but because it was on Nick they couldn't, basically. Pretty much everyone who knew them and wasn't utterly oblivious to such things (coughTenzincough) would have already realized it, and still would have been at the least okay with it.

      ... Except Wu. He woulda pouted. Or possibly tried to figure out a way to charm *both* of them.

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    • from what I know about history most societies have not cared very much at all about homosexuality.

      a few have been against it. like the Abrahamic societies.

      a few embrace it: like the ancient greeks, some samurai, the azande tribe.

      but, most are just like "eh whatever". the reason so many have been against recently is because Abrahamic civilizations have taken over the world.

      so odds are the avatar world wont care. probably be like "eh, whatever".

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    • Slight corrections *as I see them*…

      ChazzK wrote:
      In book 1, She and Asami got off to a rocky start due to the whole love-triangle-with-Mako thing

      Actually, while Korra felt slightly uncomfy around Asami at first, Asami never displayed an issue with Korra. When told by Ikki that Korra liked Mako, Asami replied "I did not realize that" but never once went at Korra about it. She even later that night told Korra "You're amazing".

      Even when they first met at the dinner party, Asami's first words to Korra were "Mako's told me so much about you". Think about it, as a woman *I* don't want my dates to be talking about other girls. Apparently Asami allowed it, if not encouraged discussion about Korra.

      ALL of Asami's ire about the sitch was directed solely at Mako. Highly enlightened for a girl. Highly.

      While Korra was in the wheelchair, her mother was around, so for Asami to be doing what she did was even more telling. Also, Asami was the only one of the Krew who was with Korra during the ceremony, Mako and Bolin on the other side of the room. Asami was already accepted as family by Korra's family.

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    • The ancient Greeks were in favor of one specific type of homosexual relationship--that of an early adolescent male as the "bottom" & an older male as the "top." It was thought of as some kind of weird mentorship program. It was considered a civic duty to marry & pump out kids. By contrast, the Romans were far more sexually liberal.

      I'm no historian, but I think it's basically correct that homophobia did not become widespread until the Abrahamic faiths really gained momentum.

      Clearly, Asami always wanted to master Korrabending. Probably put a wig on Mako.

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    • To keep this more "avatar-relevant", lets examine the attitude of the Asian world. I've mentioned before that in China/many Asian nations back in Dynasty times of old, MM assignations were allowed in a "look the other way" DADT fashion. Even during marriages (for their breeder duties), wives were expected to deal with it.

      MM are what is recorded, so there is less detail about any FF relationships.

      They were not deemed illegal until I beleive Chairman Mao's era. Today same-gender marriages are still illegal.

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    • the Chinese didn't care until recently. neither did the Japanese, some of the samurai were even like the ancient greeks or azande tribe with an older male being paired with a younger male during war related stuff.

      i'm not sure about the mongols, but I do know they were surprisingly more tolerant of cultures than many other conquering empires in history. I actually don't know of a more tolerant empire.

      not sure about the rest of Asia. but, if I had to guess I would guess that most of them didn't care.

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    • Here's how I think Kuvira would react:

      Kuvira: I am happy for the two of them for finding happiness with each other, but neither of them have ever dated the monolithic beast of pure sex that is Baatar Jr, so I'm still one-up on both of them. 

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    • Deist Zealot wrote:
      As I've said in a couple of other threads: we don't even know if overt homophobia exists in the Avatarverse.  If anything, the casual Korrasami at the end implies that it may not.

      I don't think they are homophobic in the eastern world. For instance, Buddhists don't see any difference between gay and straight

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    • For those wondering, prior to Islam reaching India and Christianity most of Asia via european missionaries, most eastern asian nations actually were very overtly tolerant of homosexuality. In China and Japan, there's several traditions akin to the greek "erates-eromenos" complex, and several chinese folk tales do feature same-sex romance, most notably "The Scholar and The Fox".

      Buddhism muddled things a bit, given it's emphasis on asceticism, but in Japan buddhists developed an unique system of ritualised pederasty.

      So yes, there's no logical reason as to why anyone would be homophobic in the Avatar verse.

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    • Do I smell a history major?

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    • No, just someone who does research. LGBT themes in mythology is a particular pasttime of mine.

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    • Intriguing. I'm a fan of mythology, though I only know of a few myths along those lines. I think that might have something to do with censorship.

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    • I don't think they are homophobic in the eastern world. For instance, Buddhists don't see any difference between gay and straight

      They also don't see difference between men and women.

      But through a discussion in another thread i came to the conclusion that the Avatar world is closer to Hinduism than Buddhism. I didn't read all the thread(i plan to, later) but what is the hinduist take on homossexuality?

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    • In early China such relationships, MM being the more reported over FF, were tacitly expected to be conducted in private (bathhouses included). So long as it was not 'in your face' open, wives were expected to accept this of their husbands who practiced it.

      However during the Qing Dynasty it became frowned upon until eventually outlawed, and daring enough wives able to seek certificates of divorce.

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    • SaitamaBro wrote:
      I don't think they are homophobic in the eastern world. For instance, Buddhists don't see any difference between gay and straight
      They also don't see difference between men and women.

      But through a discussion in another thread i came to the conclusion that the Avatar world is closer to Hinduism than Buddhism. I didn't read all the thread(i plan to, later) but what is the hinduist take on homossexuality?

      Currently, it's negative, but there is evidence that historically, in pre-muslim times, it was acceptable. In mythology proper, there are instance of male gods in same-sex relationships or at least intercourse (Mitra & Varuna and Agni mating with Soma/Chandra being the most obvious), in modern days either ignored or nonsensically dismissed the same way early same-sex christian marriages are by homophobic christians.

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    • "Sappho just mentored young women. And nothing else."

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    • SaitamaBro wrote:

      But through a discussion in another thread i came to the conclusion that the Avatar world is closer to Hinduism than Buddhism. I didn't read all the thread(i plan to, later) but what is the hinduist take on homossexuality?

      There are many types of Hinduism. but, most do not seem to care about it.

      some of the hindu gods even possess qualities of males and females.

      and some of the gods posses different incarnates (avatars) as different sexes. so......I don't know what that would make them haha.


      I feel like the avatar world is a pretty good mish mash of many eastern religions.

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    • Falconfly wrote:
      there is evidence that historically, in pre-muslim times, [homosexuality] was acceptable.

      You know, there is a reason why Islam is part of Abrahamic religions. Particularly, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and its associated "lessons" are acknowledged in the Torah (Judaism), the Bible (Christian) and the Quran (Islam). If these holy books are like a movie series...

      "The Torah(or Old Testament) is like the first movie, and the New Testament is the sequel. Then the Qu'ran comes out, and it retcons the last one like it never happened. There's still Jesus, but in the Qu'ran he's not the main character anymore, and the messiah hasn't shown up yet.

      Jews like the first movie but ignore the sequels, Christians think you need to watch the first two, but the third movie doesn't count, the Moslims think the third one was the best, and Mormons liked the second one so much they started writing fanfiction that doesn't fit with ANY of the series canon."

      — Anonymous

      In the end, it is what people take from religion, not the religion itself, that makes it evil. Like Zaheer, one can make bizarre interpretation of any sacred text to fit one's own political narrative.

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    • ^I am an avatar jew, I like the first series and ignore the sequel haha.

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    • TheAvatarNate wrote:
      ^I am an avatar jew, I like the first series and ignore the sequel haha.

      But you're on a thread that's about the sequel

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    • true true. but I did enjoy a few small aspects of LOK. (just as someone might find a religion that they don't practice interesting). and this relationship I found somewhat interesting.

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    • Falconfly wrote:

      Currently, it's negative, but there is evidence that historically, in pre-muslim times, it was acceptable. In mythology proper, there are instance of male gods in same-sex relationships or at least intercourse (Mitra & Varuna and Agni mating with Soma/Chandra being the most obvious), in modern days either ignored or nonsensically dismissed the same way early same-sex christian marriages are by homophobic christians.

      I'm not surprised, seeing as today there are christian homossexuals who want to get married in the church.

      Nate:

      Yeah, there are Shiva and Shakti that represent the union of female and male. This is actually a pretty old concept and there is even ritualistic sex as a form of worship to some gods.

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    • SaitamaBro wrote:
      Falconfly wrote:
      there is evidence that historically, in pre-muslim times, it was acceptable. ... in modern days either ignored or nonsensically dismissed the same way early same-sex christian marriages are by homophobic christians.
      I'm not surprised, seeing as today there are christian homossexuals who want to get married in the church.

      It's worth pointing out that the link talks about pre-Christian times. In pre-Christian Rome, homosexuality was controversial but tolerated. In 342 AD, Christian emperors outlawed homosexuality with Theodosian Code 9.7.3. [though Rome continued to collect taxes on male prostitutes until 491 AD]. In 390 AD, those guilty of homosexual sex were condemned to be burned alive in front of the public. The Christian emperor Justinian (527–565) scapegoated homosexuals for "famines, earthquakes, and pestilences."

      "If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?"
      Pope Francis on July 29, 2013

      We've come a long way.

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    • What about the gay marriage between those two guys?

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    • Which two guys? Sergius and Bacchus? John Boswell's account of their homosexuality is contested by Greek Orthodox Church. Pedro Díaz and Muño Vandilaz in 16 April 1061? Possibly an isolated case. :/

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    • @Love Robin:  Wow, I went for a few weeks without noticing I made that grand error. o_0

      Thanks for the correction!


      @Lustful Lao:  I can't help but be reminded of Jade Empire by your username.

      By the way...Open Palm or Closed Fist? :D

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    • TheAvatarNate wrote:

      SaitamaBro wrote:

      But through a discussion in another thread i came to the conclusion that the Avatar world is closer to Hinduism than Buddhism. I didn't read all the thread(i plan to, later) but what is the hinduist take on homossexuality?

      There are many types of Hinduism. but, most do not seem to care about it.

      some of the hindu gods even possess qualities of males and females.

      and some of the gods posses different incarnates (avatars) as different sexes. so......I don't know what that would make them haha.


      I feel like the avatar world is a pretty good mish mash of many eastern religions.

      They even have two foms that each is a gender. 

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    • Hasdi wrote:
      Falconfly wrote:
      there is evidence that historically, in pre-muslim times, [homosexuality] was acceptable.
      You know, there is a reason why Islam is part of Abrahamic religions. Particularly, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and its associated "lessons" are acknowledged in the Torah (Judaism), the Bible (Christian) and the Quran (Islam). If these holy books are like a movie series...
      "The Torah(or Old Testament) is like the first movie, and the New Testament is the sequel. Then the Qu'ran comes out, and it retcons the last one like it never happened. There's still Jesus, but in the Qu'ran he's not the main character anymore, and the messiah hasn't shown up yet.

      Jews like the first movie but ignore the sequels, Christians think you need to watch the first two, but the third movie doesn't count, the Moslims think the third one was the best, and Mormons liked the second one so much they started writing fanfiction that doesn't fit with ANY of the series canon."

      — Anonymous

      In the end, it is what people take from religion, not the religion itself, that makes it evil. Like Zaheer, one can make bizarre interpretation of any sacred text to fit one's own political narrative.

      That is actually the best explanation of abrahamic reeligions I have found.

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    • SaitamaBro wrote:
      Falconfly wrote:

      Currently, it's negative, but there is evidence that historically, in pre-muslim times, it was acceptable. In mythology proper, there are instance of male gods in same-sex relationships or at least intercourse (Mitra & Varuna and Agni mating with Soma/Chandra being the most obvious), in modern days either ignored or nonsensically dismissed the same way early same-sex christian marriages are by homophobic christians.

      I'm not surprised, seeing as today there are christian homossexuals who want to get married in the church.

      Nate:

      Yeah, there are Shiva and Shakti that represent the union of female and male. This is actually a pretty old concept and there is even ritualistic sex as a form of worship to some gods.

      Are you refering to the kundalini which was part of spiritual practices as in yoga and sometimes reffered toas sexual energy? I've heard of sxual practices, ut never as worchip to gods.

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    • TheAvatarNate wrote:
      ^I am an avatar jew, I like the first series and ignore the sequel haha.

      I don't get the simile

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    • MysticNerd wrote:
      TheAvatarNate wrote:
      ^I am an avatar jew, I like the first series and ignore the sequel haha.
      I don't get the simile

      They were talking about Jewism, Christianism and Islamism. Jews only like the first movie(Tohrah) and ignore the sequencies(New Teatament and Q'uran) so he being an avatar jew means he only likes ATLA and ignore the rest.


      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_prostitution

      There are some books about it(mostly satanists and from people who worship Lilith and Samael(again, representing the masculine and feminine)).

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    • Your history is wrong ifyou think that people are homophobic because they are from an older time or maybe that's not wehat you're saying. Here's a little history lesson about LGBT respect. Rome and Greece both had bisexual gods, gods of transgender and gay people, and same-sex people. In Egypt and ancient America, they'd look at you weirdly if you treated someone different for being LGBT. I've heard people say that the bible actually isn't against gay people. The eastern world had the same stuff as Greece and Rome. The only people that would be homophobic in the avatar world would be the western water nation which would be a mix of medieval countries (France, Germany, and more), the UK, and Vikings. The UK and Vikings invented homophobia. Homophobic people would be strange in the avatar world. I'll be posting something about what I think each chzracters reactions would be soon. 

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    • MysticNerd wrote:
      Your history is wrong ifyou think that people are homophobic because they are from an older time or maybe that's not wehat you're saying. Here's a little history lesson about LGBT respect. Rome and Greece both had bisexual gods, gods of transgender and gay people, and same-sex people. In Egypt and ancient America, they'd look at you weirdly if you treated someone different for being LGBT. I've heard people say that the bible actually isn't against gay people. The eastern world had the same stuff as Greece and Rome. The only people that would be homophobic in the avatar world would be the western water nation which would be a mix of medieval countries (France, Germany, and more), the UK, and Vikings. The UK and Vikings invented homophobia. Homophobic people would be strange in the avatar world. I'll be posting something about what I think each chzracters reactions would be soon. 

      He's really just saying he doesn't like LoK, only ATLA.

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    • ^are you talking about me?

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    • Yup. That's what you meant right?

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    • SaitamaBro wrote:
      MysticNerd wrote:
      Your history is wrong ifyou think that people are homophobic because they are from an older time or maybe that's not wehat you're saying. Here's a little history lesson about LGBT respect. Rome and Greece both had bisexual gods, gods of transgender and gay people, and same-sex people. In Egypt and ancient America, they'd look at you weirdly if you treated someone different for being LGBT. I've heard people say that the bible actually isn't against gay people. The eastern world had the same stuff as Greece and Rome. The only people that would be homophobic in the avatar world would be the western water nation which would be a mix of medieval countries (France, Germany, and more), the UK, and Vikings. The UK and Vikings invented homophobia. Homophobic people would be strange in the avatar world. I'll be posting something about what I think each chzracters reactions would be soon. 
      He's really just saying he doesn't like LoK, only ATLA.

      wasn't talking to a specific person. I was trying to inform peopleon history and LGBT respect since that seems to be what we're talking about as a foundation for our talk currently.

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    • SaitamaBro wrote: Yup. That's what you meant right?

      yeah but, your response didn't seem to make sense to mysticnerd's. he didn't seem to be talking to/about me.

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    • Weird, seeing as his post was a response to yours.

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    • his one before was but the one you responded to seemed to be just him talking about history. he didn't quote anything of mine...

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    • It's written reply to #160 and 160 is your post about being an avatar jew.

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    • huh, you are right. that's weird. I never knew you could make something "a reply" to a specific post.

      anyway, in his most recent post he says he wasn't talking to anyone specific.

      but, whatever. it doesn't really matter.

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    • Whenever you quote something it will appear "reply to #000", even if you delete the quote after clicking the quote button.

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    • I thought he was talking to you because of it.

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    • huh. well ok then. maybe he accidently quoted me or something. whatever.

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    • In the end, it is what people take from religion, not the religion itself, that makes it evil. Like Zaheer, one can make bizarre interpretation of any sacred text to fit one's own political narrative.

      The Old Testament outright says that God established the Israelite laws, including the laws sanctioning slavery & genocide. The New Testament contradicts this, almost like they were written thousands of years apart by different & decidedly not infallible authors. The point being, it is plenty possible for a religion to have a negative teaching that is downplayed later on. Though that establishes a chicken & egg scenario, because that religion was, in turn, derived from older ones, which may or may not have taught something different.

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    • Well, I guess that everyone will be genuinely suprised. Also, I think that everyone later on realises that they can't do anything about it.

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    • Love Robin wrote:
      In early China such relationships, MM being the more reported over FF, were tacitly expected to be conducted in private (bathhouses included). So long as it was not 'in your face' open, wives were expected to accept this of their husbands who practiced it.

      However during the Qing Dynasty it became frowned upon until eventually outlawed, and daring enough wives able to seek certificates of divorce.

      This is true, but let's not also forget about Nobunaga and other Daimyo during the Sengoku period.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      In the end, it is what people take from religion, not the religion itself, that makes it evil. Like Zaheer, one can make bizarre interpretation of any sacred text to fit one's own political narrative.

      The Old Testament outright says that God established the Israelite laws, including the laws sanctioning slavery & genocide. The New Testament contradicts this, almost like they were written thousands of years apart by different & decidedly not infallible authors. The point being, it is plenty possible for a religion to have a negative teaching that is downplayed later on. Though that establishes a chicken & egg scenario, because that religion was, in turn, derived from older ones, which may or may not have taught something different.

      Actually, the laws in the OT existed to avoid going to the bad part of hell. Heaven wasn't open for them since they didn't accept the saviour(Jesus) because he hadn't come yet. When JC went to hell he freed all of the just(the ones that followed the law) that died before him from hell. So after his coming there is no need to follow the laws, you only need to follow Jesus teachings and accept him as your saviour to go to heaven. That means that the OT is only for reference of what happened before his coming and for people to make connections between them(or find inconsistence in some cases). So you don't need to follow the rules such as killing the homossexual abominations or sacrificing animals to him so he can forgive your sins(since Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice he made to himself, people only need to regret their sins and ask for his forgiveness). So it's not really a contradiction. Now if you want to argument that a loving god wouldn't be asking for human sacrifices or killing people for petty reasons, this is still not a contradiction between the testaments, but in the whole book.

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    • Better to think of the Testaments as "phases" in a project. Phase One is the groundwork and superstructure. Casual visitors are not allowed to walk on the just-poured concrete or stroll about the skeletal girder-work. Phase Two involves what color to paint the interior walls, carpets to lay, keys to executive bathrooms, and taking clients.

      Both Phases are the Same Building. Different Rules and Operational Procedures. Different Access Restrictions.

      There may even be a Phase Three since Prophet Daniel was told that there were Scrolls "sealed away to be opened later".

      So not a contradiction. Just different rules for different periods. And this simile holds for many things. For example Olympic competitions. During one phase games are played within participating countries to determine who are their best athletes. Final Phase is to compete internationally.

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    • The Bible contradicts that particular piece of apologetics.

      God does not change his mind: http://biblehub.com/numbers/23-19.htm

      The law is not abolished: http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

      And that's just commenting on whether or not the Bible is internally consistent, not whether or not the teachings would be justified even if it was. Also, I'm way off-topic, so anyone who wants to continue this discussion should message me.

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    • Hasdi wrote:
      Like Zaheer, one can make bizarre interpretation of any sacred text to fit one's own political narrative.

      Nice simile, although I'd say he's more like the equivalent of a westerner who skims Asian religions for spare tenets.  (Or a New Ager, if there's a difference.)

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    • The reaction I am most intrasted in is Mako cause he dated the both of them.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote: The Bible contradicts that particular piece of apologetics.

      God does not change his mind: http://biblehub.com/numbers/23-19.htm

      The law is not abolished: http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

      And that's just commenting on whether or not the Bible is internally consistent, not whether or not the teachings would be justified even if it was. Also, I'm way off-topic, so anyone who wants to continue this discussion should message me.

      lol im still following this thread since it is hilariously entusiasing. Dont make this a matter of religious debate.

      Trust me...it will start getting really hot after a while :/ lol

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    • Rapmilo wrote:

      Neo Bahamut wrote: The Bible contradicts that particular piece of apologetics.

      God does not change his mind: http://biblehub.com/numbers/23-19.htm

      The law is not abolished: http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

      And that's just commenting on whether or not the Bible is internally consistent, not whether or not the teachings would be justified even if it was. Also, I'm way off-topic, so anyone who wants to continue this discussion should message me.

      lol im still following this thread since it is hilariously entusiasing. Dont make this a matter of religious debate.

      Trust me...it will start getting really hot after a while :/ lol

      1. Don't tell me what to do.

      2. I didn't even start that conversation, Hasdi has a known tendency to drag irrelevant, polarizing issues into most threads that he's in.

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    • So... how do you guys think characters would react to this relationship, not how religion relates to it?

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      I didn't even start that conversation, Hasdi has a known tendency to drag irrelevant, polarizing issues into most threads that he's in.

      Hasdi was only responding to Falconfly's claim that "there is evidence that historically, in pre-muslim times, [homosexuality] was acceptable." Eusa_snooty.gif

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    • They will be shocked for sure, but they will eventually get over it, I am sure.

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    • Hmmm...I remember replying to this thread earlier. I still stand by what I said though, they'd probably not be accepted and Avatar Korra's status, well, it'll be diminished.

      That is if it is an actual legitimate representation of society in the 20th century, where bisexuality was something out of the norm and looked down upon. Personally, I am not against gays and do not support their oppression in any way. But, for a realistic answer I will say they'd have to carry out such a relationship in hiding, at least to a certain degree.

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    • Considering they sailed around in a turtle duck boat together, I don't think they had to keep it hidden :P.

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    • ? Though that can be thought of as romantic behavior, it could be denoted as platonic, as they are best friends...

      It's like those amusement park love tunnel rides. Half the people going aren't in a relationship. I meant to say it in the sense that they do not publicly nor explicitly state that they are homosexual as that, in that time period, would not really end well.

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    • If you saw the picture, it was not even remotely platonic. Asami was basically taking a nap on Korra's lap.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote: If you saw the picture, it was not even remotely platonic. Asami was basically taking a nap on Korra's lap.

      I gotta give you credit for that.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      If you saw the picture, it was not even remotely platonic. Asami was basically taking a nap on Korra's lap.

      It was also completely adorable. But that's just my opinion. As to the original question...yeah, I'm not gonna do some of those. But let's take the important ones:

      MAKO & BOLIN

      I think Mako and Bolin are going to be surprised, but especially Mako. I mean, both of his ex-girlfriends are now dating? That's gonna prompt him to go home and reevaluate his life. That said, I really don't think they'll be anything if not supportive.

      TENZIN & HIS FAMILY

      Well, Kya probably won't be surprised given that IIRC Bryke stated in an interview that she was bi too or something, but I do think that Tenzin will be. That said, Korra is practically a member of the family, and I don't mean because she's his dad reincarnated as a kickass female waterbender from the SWT. I mean because that's clearly how they see her - Tenzin(and by extension Pema), the kids - you just have to look at how the kids reacted when she showed up out of the blue in Book 2. So I think they are going to be supportive. Tenzin probably might be a little uneasy about it because he's Tenzin, but I don't think anyone of them is gonna completely disown Korra because of something like this.

      KORRA'S FAMILY

      Tonraq and Senna...Same thing as with Tenzin and his family, I think. There is going to be some surprise, but I think they'll get over it, and I see Senna especially being more supportive.

      Eska and Desna won't care. At. ALL. 

      EVERYONE ELSE

      It's difficult to say what the general public's reaction would be because we know next to nothing about societal norms in this universe and whether the general attitude towards same-sex relationships is more reflective of the periods that inspired the aesthetics of the series, or in line with a more contemporary viewpoint. Regardless, there are probably going to be people who don't care, people who don't agree...actually, that would be an interesting question for the upcoming comics to explore.

      As for my own opinion, I think the fact that I use an edited screenshot of Asami in which she's wearing a betrothal necklace as my avie makes it perfectly clear, yeah?

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    • Yeah, I'm very interested to see how Mike is going to play this in the upcoming comics. Is he going to come down more on the side that it's a non-issue in Republic City, or is he going to paint it like this major social issue that needs to be addressed?

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    • I almost forgot about the upcoming comics...

      Does anyone know if a date of release has been announced yet?

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    • I really really hope it's a non issue. I don't need real world bullsh!t fcking up my escapism. I just want to read about a world where I'm normal.

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    • I wonder if their would be a news story about Korra and Asami when people find out?

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    • Korra is the Avatar, and Asami is also presumably a fairly well-known figure. I would say it is probably at least a very likely possibility that the media is going to pick up on this and consider it worth reporting.

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    • This is going to be very interesting and that is actually what I want most from the comics to come.

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    • Most looking forward to Bolin's reaction - it'll probably be the only time he'll be even more excited than when he met Toph! :P Overall, though, I'm sure that all of Korra and Asami's friends will be completelly supportive. 

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    • The way I see it, Bolin's reaction is going to be funny either way. My theory is that:

      1. We get another "I'm very confused now" moment like when Korra was trolling him during that pro-bending match way back in Book 1, until either someone makes a comment or he finally does realize what's really going on. 

      2. Bolin picks up on what's going on right off the bat, and gets excited about it. Either way, it's gonna be funny. 

      The one whose reaction is also gonna be amusing is probably going to be Tenzin, because he's pretty old-fashioned overall, and Mako, simply because of how awkward it's going to be when he realizes his ex is dating his other ex. I still remember his rather confused "What's going on with you two?" in Book 4 at one point quite fondly.

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    • Mako's reaction is the one I would wan't to see the most.

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    • DrachenRitter42 wrote:
      The way I see it, Bolin's reaction is going to be funny either way. My theory is that:

      1. We get another "I'm very confused now" moment like when Korra was trolling him during that pro-bending match way back in Book 1, until either someone makes a comment or he finally does realize what's really going on. 

      2. Bolin picks up on what's going on right off the bat, and gets excited about it. Either way, it's gonna be funny. 

      The one whose reaction is also gonna be amusing is probably going to be Tenzin, because he's pretty old-fashioned overall, and Mako, simply because of how awkward it's going to be when he realizes his ex is dating his other ex. I still remember his rather confused "What's going on with you two?" in Book 4 at one point quite fondly.

      I would have assumed Tenzin knew about it. They were hanging out on Air Temple Island and he'd have seen them a good deal. It's not that difficult to pick up on something like that particularly when seeing them in a natural setting for a period of time.

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    • Bolin is often used to parody the fanbase, so I could see that leading to a "Sorry, I squee'd" moment.

      Speaking of Bolin, I forgot I posted this earlier.

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    • That is hilarious :P

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    • I still say Mako (and Pema, and Jinora, and Opal) already guessed.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Speaking of Bolin, I forgot I posted this earlier.


      Loved everything about that picture.

      @Drachen: I feel that Bolin is going to do with the first option you mentioned. I could totally see it going down.

      Tenzin will probably get all surprised and say like he does when he's surprised/angry "Juat?!"

      It will probably be tough on Mako, but I can imagine them saying (as an example):
      Korra: "Mako, get on the plane!"
      Asami: "Ready, dear?"
      Korra: "Yep!"
      Mako: "I'll never get used to that..."

      I think the world be either strangely accepting of it or very mean about it. If it really bases of the 20's, then it will be hard.

      @Deist Zealot: I think that Mako already knew too - and Jinora. Especially the latter. I am not so sure about Opal and Pema though.

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    • Why would Tenzin be surprised?

      Mako probably does still carry a torch for her...but he probably saw it coming too.

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    • Why wouldn't he be surprised? I haven't seen him show the slightest hint of knowing.

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    • He spent much of the downtime with Korra and Asami in book four. It's pretty easy to see when two people dig each other when you're around them. Really, most of the immediate cast probably knew, just some viewers didn't because they didn't get to see all of the little interactions.

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    • Still not sure, he appeared to view no difference in their relationship. Of course, this is all just my point of view. We'll have to wait and see - it will be very interesting though.

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    • But he did view a difference, he knew that "something" was "going on between" them. Whether he ever figured out anything more than that or simply chalked it all up to the secret letters is unclear, but the fact remains, he sensed some change in the relationship.

      I don't mean to be pedantic, but this supports Weltall's point: Mako realized that "something" was going on because he was in close proximity to them.

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    • As for Mako, I'm with Neo Bahamut in that he seemed to realize as of early-Book 4 that there was something going on between Asami and Korra. Though at that precise point he didn't quite realize exactly what that something was. He might eventually figure it out, but when he does his reaction could be quite entertaining.

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    • He realized as early as Book 3. When he saw them together and saluted before the Earth Kingdom trip, he was more than uneasy, eyes shifting back and forth between them. He may not have know about what, but he felt it. Maybe he only had the typical fear of being talked about when ex's get together, but he knew *something* was there.

      Partially explains why he did not want to go with them at first.

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    • That's actually kind of an interesting thought. I always attributed the awkwardness of his dialog more to the fact that he was talking to both his ex-girlfriends (at least one of whom dumped him because of how he felt about the other) than to any realization of anything between the two of them. I dunno about you, but in that situation I'd be pretty awkward too :P

      But you might be right, and it could also be due to more than that.

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    • Love Robin wrote:
      He realized as early as Book 3. When he saw them together and saluted before the Earth Kingdom trip, he was more than uneasy, eyes shifting back and forth between them. He may not have know about what, but he felt it. Maybe he only had the typical fear of being talked about when ex's get together, but he knew *something* was there.

      Partially explains why he did not want to go with them at first.

      That's what I thought too, but then somebody labeled it as confirmation bias.

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    • Of course it was confirmation bias. It was confirmation bias all around. Anyone who formed an opinion on the likelihood or desirability of the pairing, whether positive or negative, & tried to back it up with selections from the series, engaged in confirmation bias. As a man who had terrible luck with jellybean flavors put it:

      "Of course it was all in your head. But why should that ever mean it wasn't real?"

      The facts remain, regardless of whether or not they're being interpreted correctly. You can't not have biases, you can only try to account for them as much as possible, & hope that the truth eventually comes out.

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    • Technically it would be hindsight bias because you are taking something that is already confirmed and applying it to the past before that was the case.

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    • I must have forgotten. Somehow everyone thought that Tenzin knew.

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    • They think that Tenzin knew the real reason that Asami interrupted him at the end. The commentary for the episode confirmed that Asami made up the story about Varrick to get him away so that she could be alone with Korra.

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    • Oh! Well, I'm gonna have to rewatch that episode. Thanks for the info. :)

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    • Hanabi-chan wrote: They think that Tenzin knew the real reason that Asami interrupted him at the end. The commentary for the episode confirmed that Asami made up the story about Varrick to get him away so that she could be alone with Korra.

      I really wanted it to be both.

      These are the things I'd like to hear the commentary for. Still holdin' out for a DVD box set.

      Technically it would be hindsight bias because you are taking something that is already confirmed and applying it to the past before that was the case.

      Both would apply.

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    • Korrasami. :3

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    • Hanabi-chan wrote:
      They think that Tenzin knew the real reason that Asami interrupted him at the end. The commentary for the episode confirmed that Asami made up the story about Varrick to get him away so that she could be alone with Korra.

      Really, she did.

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      • Mako would be very surprised, but he wouldn't be jealous cause he went out with both Asami and Korra.
      • Bolin will be surprised too.
      • Naga and Pabu probably wont care all that much, they're animals.
      • Tenzin will be surprised
      • Pema will be happy they both have someone to care for.
      • Jinora will be happy for them.
      • Ikki will be happy like her sister
      • Meelo wouldn't care that much, but would probably look back on it since he was once attracted to Asami
      • I don't think Kai would care all that much
      • Lin will be happy and surprised at the same time
      • Suyin will be happy they have each other.
      • Baatar won't care.
      • Tonraq and Senna will be suprised but happy for her at the same time
      • Desna and Eska won't care
      • Huan won't care
      • Opal will be happy for them
      • Wei and Wing won't care all that much.
      • Varrick and Zhu Li will both be happy for them.
      • YinChowTu and the reast of Mako and Bolin's family won't care
      • Kya and Bumi will be happy for them
      • Wu won't care about it that much
      • Raiko and Buttercup won't care that much
      • Gommu will be happy for Korra at least
      • The White Falls Wolfbats won't care
      • Lu and Gang won't care
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