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  • Hey everyone.

    So It's sad that the Legend of Korra is finished :c. It's been a good run though.

    Anyway,

    To be honest I'm disappointed on the final scene. I feel like this whole book was about Korra finding herself and realizing she's strong and not weak woman everyone thought her to be. But instead I found the ending was Korra still being Miserable and doubting herself as the Avatar, and instead of her finding a solution they sort of just went like "all well! Let's finish by putting her and Asami together!" I've seen heaps of people who have said that they've hinted something between the two, but was I the only one who didn't?! I always saw them as close friends which had been through some harsh and emotionally distressing situations together, and I mean, I'm gay myself. 

    I was hoping the ending would be like team Avatar coming together and then maybe going away somewhere. Instead a last minute attempt at a love story. I mean, didn't Korra only write back to Asami once? That doesn't prove that they're automatically in love.

    Also, people keep saying if the last scene is that way, then Korra and Asami are lesbians. Which I think is untrue because the way she looked at Mako would imply she is no more then bi-curious or bisexual.

    What did you guys think??

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    • Um yeah, they kinda detracted from the whole point about teamwork and everything. Korra should've made it a TeAm-Avatar road trip.

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    • No, it was a great scene and there were hints throughout the show about Korra and Asami liking each other.

      And yes, both of them can be bi, nothing wrong with that

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    • Torresp wrote:
      Um yeah, they kinda detracted from the whole point about teamwork and everything. Korra should've made it a TeAm-Avatar road trip.

      See I agree that it should have been a team field trip

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    • Its funny i didnt pick up on those hints at all. It was nice though, I always like the endings i don't expect yet still flow smoothly with the entire story. Its a rare thing to come by.


      Also does anybody know what the symbols meant in the very last shot?

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    • Migueldegouveia wrote:
      No, it was a great scene and there were hints throughout the show about Korra and Asami liking each other.

      And yes, both of them can be bi, nothing wrong with that

      I think most of us would have less a problem with it if there was less Korra/Mako being shoved down our throats for two seasons, with the third season referring to it and the finale of korra referencing it again, only to avoid showing any hard evidence of korra being bi (and no evidence for asami) just to put it out there in the last 2 minutes. It felt tacked on to hype shippers

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    • Korra and Mako got four episodes worth of light 'shiptease, four worth of heavy 'shiptease, and five worth of establishing them as incompatible (which set up them breaking up, Mako putting the penultimate nail in the coffin by trying to cover his ass, and Korra putting the final one in deliberately).  In Book 3, they were fumbling their way towards genuine friendship...but while Mako still carried a torch, it didn't really seemed like Korra did any longer.

      Korra and Asami got two books' worth of being built up as best friends.  Building them up as girlfriends was all subtle, and was interwoven with the friendship part, but here's the deal:  They're both women.  And, unfortunately, that still offends the self-proclaimed moral guardians.  So it had to be handled in a sneaky fashion.

      Teal-deer: if anything would have been "tacked on to hype 'shippers," that'd be refloating Makorra from the murky depths.  (Or Masami after he did her dirty twice.)

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    • So Is Korra officially homosexual?

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    • AvatarBolin wrote:
      So Is Korra officially homosexual?

      No, but it closed with a heavy implication that she and Asami are girlfriends.

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    • AvatarBolin wrote:
      So Is Korra officially homosexual?


      She had a relationship with Mako. She's not gay, she's bisexual.

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    • The thing is, I feel like I COULD level a lot of these arguments against Varrick & Zhu Li.

      Sudden, last minute development? Zhu Li barely even SPOKE until this Book. The whole romance arc between them started here, & wasn't even remotely hinted at before.

      And why make their wedding the penultimate scene & final setting? They aren't even major characters.

      But does the fact that it's not obsessively planned out & formulaic mean that it's bad?

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    • Deist Zealot wrote:
      Korra and Mako got four episodes worth of light 'shiptease, four worth of heavy 'shiptease, and five worth of establishing them as incompatible (which set up them breaking up, Mako putting the penultimate nail in the coffin by trying to cover his ass, and Korra putting the final one in deliberately).  In Book 3, they were fumbling their way towards genuine friendship...but while Mako still carried a torch, it didn't really seemed like Korra did any longer.

      Korra and Asami got two books' worth of being built up as best friends.  Building them up as girlfriends was all subtle, and was interwoven with the friendship part, but here's the deal:  They're both women.  And, unfortunately, that still offends the self-proclaimed moral guardians.  So it had to be handled in a sneaky fashion.

      Teal-deer: if anything would have been "tacked on to hype 'shippers," that'd be refloating Makorra from the murky depths.  (Or Masami after he did her dirty twice.)

      i much agree with this stament. even today i was watching videos of people i'm subed to and in a makorra video alot of people were angry that makorra didn't come back. to be frank why should it in there relationship they did nothing but fight and makko put himself over korra. sure korra and asami didn't confess their love for one another. samesex couples are still looked down upon by many people, so they had to put the subject in a way that it didn't upset the masses. just because you don't like a ship doesn't mean you need to dis the ship or say you've been betrayed by the writers. something that is dead can't come back to life just because the fans want it. you may ship what you want i wont judge you but as soon as you start dissing another ship like a 12 year old because you didn't get what you wanted i will judge you. 

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote: The thing is, I feel like I COULD level a lot of these arguments against Varrick & Zhu Li.

      Sudden, last minute development? Zhu Li barely even SPOKE until this Book. The whole romance arc between them started here, & wasn't even remotely hinted at before.

      And why make their wedding the penultimate scene & final setting? They aren't even major characters.

      But does the fact that it's not obsessively planned out & formulaic mean that it's bad?

      The thing is Neo, is that it's expected from Varrick, as he's an eccentric and crazy character.

      From the start of Book 4 when Zhu Li gave him those "I'm in love!" eyes when he saved her and her voice went all girly, also from the amount of times she saved him no matter what, you could predict that she liked him.

      Like I said before, it didn't matter because it was. Varrick thing of him to do to be like " screw it lets get marred! Woo!" As for the final setting, I think it was just like a redemption, you know, all these crazy bad things have happened, everything's in ruins yet love still exists in the form of a wedding. A wedding also symbolises a start of a new life, much like Republic city.

      So personally, I find asami and Korra thing totally different.

      Like yes, if maybe their was more of a hint of them or a relationship of that sort, I would be all open to it, but the fact it was last minute, no hint of a romantic relationship (well at least for me) and then to never resolve what the whole point of book 4 which was Korra finding her worth and becoming strong again, disappointed me.

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    • this season was about Korra rediscovering herself, not rebuilding team avatar, okay. And you know what, being the avatar, she knows she will always be stressed, so what did you all expect? She goes to the Spirit World to escape her troubles for a short period of time, and Asami, still dealing with her father dying, joins her. AS... A... FRIEND... ONLY. I hug my friends and look at them when I shake hands, that doesn't mean I love them. Besides, at least Korra talked to Mako, Tenzin and Asami to say they'll always be a team. Aang said nothing to the guys after the finale. So, yeah, Korra and Asami get a girls night out. WHOOP DE FUCKING DO

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    • You can personally find it whatever you please, but from an objective standpoint, I could easily make the same argument that Varrick & Zhu Li were just a distraction.

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    • TMan12 wrote: this season was about Korra rediscovering herself, not rebuilding team avatar, okay. And you know what, being the avatar, she knows she will always be stressed, so what did you all expect? She goes to the Spirit World to escape her troubles for a short period of time, and Asami, still dealing with her father dying, joins her. AS... A... FRIEND... ONLY. I hug my friends and look at them when I shake hands, that doesn't mean I love them. Besides, at least Korra talked to Mako, Tenzin and Asami to say they'll always be a team. Aang said nothing to the guys after the finale. So, yeah, Korra and Asami get a girls night out. WHOOP DE FUCKING DO

      Everyone hugs their friends and shakes their friends, but I don't think many people affectionately hold their hands and gaze into their eyes before going on a holiday together...without even planning to do so.

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    • I look my friends in the eyes... Nothing much to it. That's the great thing about this ending... We can all draw our conclusions.

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    • The moment Korra blushed over Asami's compliment on her hair was the biggest hint of KorraAsami to me... I dunno people probably didn't pay much attention to it but personally a scene like that is usually giant hinters on cartoon/anime series... And whilst Korrasami wasn't exactly I paid much attention to between first to third season, the fourth season just hit me in the face with it

      Am I glad it did? Yes... yes I am... The ship shall sail to many lands

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    • I wounder if aang loved sooka I mean they was really close good mates, had a laugh with each other went out together to parties traveled the world together. Or is that me over thinking there's select things as people who think korra and asami are in a relationship. They are best friends. 

      Why must two girls who who have a good relationship with each other be lesbians.

      Also something like a romantic relationship between the two would have been build on in more then the last two minutes.

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    • TMan12 wrote: I look my friends in the eyes... Nothing much to it. That's the great thing about this ending... We can all draw our conclusions.

      It really is amazing how in denial you are.

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    • I gave you kudos if only because you used the expression "shall sail to many lands."

      Anywho, the nonverbal cues were clearly enough to convince a lot of people, some of whom aren't even for it. If I watch it again, I can find ways that it "might just be platonic," but the message it sent to many people on their first viewing is undeniable.

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    • Thundervlux wrote:

      TMan12 wrote: I look my friends in the eyes... Nothing much to it. That's the great thing about this ending... We can all draw our conclusions.

      It really is amazing how in denial you are.

      Fuck you, it's up for interpretation in my opinion. And I'm not the only one who thinks so.

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    • Just to address every topic that hasn't been brought up yet: https://twitter.com/rbobby475_r/status/546153502171746305

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote: Anywho, the nonverbal cues were clearly enough to convince a lot of people, some of whom aren't even for it. If I watch it again, I can find ways that it "might just be platonic," but the message it sent to many people on their first viewing is undeniable.

      I am one of the people who never discussed anything about Korra on any forums, so I knew nothings about all the various shippings, nor how long people have been pushing the Korrasami, nor had any particular shipping I really supported - I just wanted X to be with whoever the series wanted me to want them to be with, at the time.

      But as you and many others have said, the small, subtle, occasional, physical hints when Korra and Asami actually got to speak to each other alone, were enough to stop the ending from seeming completely random or being too surprising.

      When they held hands and gazed at each other,it made me remember all those moments where there were hints and it was just really nice and plain sweet.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      I gave you kudos if only because you used the expression "shall sail to many lands."

      Anywho, the nonverbal cues were clearly enough to convince a lot of people, some of whom aren't even for it. If I watch it again, I can find ways that it "might just be platonic," but the message it sent to many people on their first viewing is undeniable.

      Well let's be honest, Bryke gave off a lot of hinters which could be considered platonic, but then at the very end they pull off that kind of ending which gives it a huge boost towards KorraAsami. It's not even the hand holding , its that gaze towards each other's eyes that just really pushed it towards the ship. 

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    • ChronoPinoyX wrote:

      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      I gave you kudos if only because you used the expression "shall sail to many lands."

      Anywho, the nonverbal cues were clearly enough to convince a lot of people, some of whom aren't even for it. If I watch it again, I can find ways that it "might just be platonic," but the message it sent to many people on their first viewing is undeniable.

      Well let's be honest, Bryke gave off a lot of hinters which could be considered platonic, but then at the very end they pull off that kind of ending which gives it a huge boost towards KorraAsami. It's not even the hand holding , its that gaze towards each other's eyes that just really pushed it towards the ship. 

      I can't point to any 1 thing that made me think that's what they were going for. The fact that it was the last scene, that it imitated the 1st series's ending, that they decided to hold hands, that they gazed into each other's eyes, that it was just the 2 of them, & more--taken individually, you can explain it all in other ways, but that's a lot of coincidence.

      When they held hands and gazed at each other,it made me remember all those moments where there were hints and it was just really nice and plain sweet.

      I concur.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:

      ChronoPinoyX wrote:

      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      I gave you kudos if only because you used the expression "shall sail to many lands."

      Anywho, the nonverbal cues were clearly enough to convince a lot of people, some of whom aren't even for it. If I watch it again, I can find ways that it "might just be platonic," but the message it sent to many people on their first viewing is undeniable.

      Well let's be honest, Bryke gave off a lot of hinters which could be considered platonic, but then at the very end they pull off that kind of ending which gives it a huge boost towards KorraAsami. It's not even the hand holding , its that gaze towards each other's eyes that just really pushed it towards the ship. 

      I can't point to any 1 thing that made me think that's what they were going for. The fact that it was the last scene, that it imitated the 1st series's ending, that they decided to hold hands, that they gazed into each other's eyes, that it was just the 2 of them, & more--taken individually, you can explain it all in other ways, but that's a lot of coincidence.

      Well coincidence or not, it sent the message strongly. Whether that was the intention or not remains to be seen (with the release of Blu Ray commentary). At this point for now it remains as ambiguous until Bryke decides to give us any actual comment on it. 

      I guess for now the shippers will continue to sail hehehe

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    • I really should have said, "that would be a lot of coincidence." I don't think it was coincidental

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    • MaiTyleeAndMe wrote:
      Hey everyone.

      So It's sad that the Legend of Korra is finished :c. It's been a good run though.

      Anyway,

      To be honest I'm disappointed on the final scene. I feel like this whole book was about Korra finding herself and realizing she's strong and not weak woman everyone thought her to be. But instead I found the ending was Korra still being Miserable and doubting herself as the Avatar, and instead of her finding a solution they sort of just went like "all well! Let's finish by putting her and Asami together!" I've seen heaps of people who have said that they've hinted something between the two, but was I the only one who didn't?! I always saw them as close friends which had been through some harsh and emotionally distressing situations together, and I mean, I'm gay myself. 

      I was hoping the ending would be like team Avatar coming together and then maybe going away somewhere. Instead a last minute attempt at a love story. I mean, didn't Korra only write back to Asami once? That doesn't prove that they're automatically in love.

      Also, people keep saying if the last scene is that way, then Korra and Asami are lesbians. Which I think is untrue because the way she looked at Mako would imply she is no more then bi-curious or bisexual.

      What did you guys think??

      The talk with Tenzin showed how Korra found herself. She finally was able to accept her suffering and make it into something positive. And I think she was just being freindly to Mako.

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    • I would peg Korra to be bisexual. She did demonstrate an interest towards the male gender, and now she demonstrated the same level of interest towards her own gender. 

      I can see why from a fan's perspective one would be disappointed for that ending. Yes, I shipped Makorra because they seemed like the perfect pair. It was unfortunate for me to see them dish aside that ship. and yes there seemed to be no foundation for Korrasami, even though it may have been subtle. 

      On the other hand, the whole theme of Book 4: Balance was acceptance. If Korra was willing to break traditional norms, especially by dating Asami, then that takes courage and strength. Accepting oneself is a good trait, and Korra exemplifies this trait that everyone must follow. She even learned to accept that Zaheer had a mental affect on her, but she allowed to use it as a tool to move forward instead of repressing it. So I think she did find a solution since she discovered who she truly was and how she can put her mind into whatever she wants to do. 

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    • MaiTyleeAndMe wrote:
      Hey everyone.

      So It's sad that the Legend of Korra is finished :c. It's been a good run though.

      Anyway,

      To be honest I'm disappointed on the final scene. I feel like this whole book was about Korra finding herself and realizing she's strong and not weak woman everyone thought her to be. But instead I found the ending was Korra still being Miserable and doubting herself as the Avatar, and instead of her finding a solution they sort of just went like "all well! Let's finish by putting her and Asami together!" I've seen heaps of people who have said that they've hinted something between the two, but was I the only one who didn't?! I always saw them as close friends which had been through some harsh and emotionally distressing situations together, and I mean, I'm gay myself. 

      I was hoping the ending would be like team Avatar coming together and then maybe going away somewhere. Instead a last minute attempt at a love story. I mean, didn't Korra only write back to Asami once? That doesn't prove that they're automatically in love.

      Also, people keep saying if the last scene is that way, then Korra and Asami are lesbians. Which I think is untrue because the way she looked at Mako would imply she is no more then bi-curious or bisexual.

      What did you guys think??

      If you thought Korra was still "miserable and doubting herself" I'd say you misunderstood something, or rather just completely ignored the conversations that took place before she left with Asami (or better yet, ignored Korra's arc in general for book 4). Korra's chat with Prince Wu? She told him that she would help him make the Earth Kingdom's transition from a Monarchy to Democratic states go as smoothly as possible, indicating that not only does she feel confident in her abilities to fulfill her Avatar role but is more than happy to do so.

      Her chat with Tenzin? That showed us she found meaning in her suffering (and learing compassion through suffering is actually one of the core tenets of Buddhism which both shows tend to draw a lot of themes from) and is no longer crippled with self doubt, anger and fear and is hopeful for the future again and wants to continue learning and growing and moving forward (a stark contrast to how she was at the beginning of this book). Tenzin even says he's happy to see her so full of hope again.

      As for Makorra? If we're speaking on grounds of personal shipping preferences, then I won't deride folks for preferring Makorra over Korrasami even if I don't understand the appeal for the former. However, canonically? I wish people would just get over it. Mako and Korra both agree with each other on screen that they were incompatible and broke up two seasons before the finale and three years ago in the storyline and they both have moved on from it and forged a bond of friendship and camaraderie that proved to be stronger (and far more tolerable to watch IMO) then their past "romance" with each other.

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    • I think she found her inner self, she wasn't insecure at all, she was just worried about what to do next, but with confidence and peace. I REALLY think she found peace.

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