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  • I've just realized something:  The Beifongs seem to have a notorious history of well, falling out with one another.  Toph fell out with her parents because of the way they treated her.  Lin fell out with Toph because she never knew her father, not to mention how distant she was with Suyin due to her criminal history, and those things have plagued her ever since.  

    Then there's Baatar Jr.  He betrayed his own family by joining Kuvira and now he spits on them.  He imprisoned them for refusing to follow Kuvira.  Ironically, now Jr. recieves karma by being captured himself, and face to face with his family so that makes them even.  But still, for Suyin, it's much harder for her--the way Jr. said "Kuvira's my family now!", it's almost like he's dead to his family.

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    • Yeah I've noticed too since Su was introduced back in Book Three and we learned about her past...mistakes.

      The Beifongs are a pretty dysfunctional family all things considered.

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    • And I thought Zuko's family was screwed up, but Toph's family is MUCH worse in this regard

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    • Torresp wrote:
      And I thought Zuko's family was screwed up, but Toph's family is MUCH worse in this regard

      I don't know.  Zuko's family was pretty screwed up.  

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    • Tcp3059 wrote:
      Torresp wrote:
      And I thought Zuko's family was screwed up, but Toph's family is MUCH worse in this regard
      I don't know.  Zuko's family was pretty screwed up.  

      Yeah, but Look at how many generations it happened with Toph's family--First Toph with her parents, then with her children, especially Lin, then Suyin with Baatar Jr.  What happened between Suyin and her son was just...sad.  Now Suyin knows how her sister feels about betrayal.  If anythihng, betrayal is a major theme in Legend of Korra. 

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    • Torresp wrote: "Kuvira's my family now!", it's almost like he's dead to his family.

      I think you mean "it's almost like his family is dead to him" or perhaps "was", since now that Kuvira's betrayed him he doesn't have a lot of options besides going back to his old family.

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    • Supermensch wrote:

      Torresp wrote: "Kuvira's my family now!", it's almost like he's dead to his family.

      I think you mean "it's almost like his family is dead to him" or perhaps "was", since now that Kuvira's betrayed him he doesn't have a lot of options besides going back to his old family.

      Well it goes both ways. He's dead to them, they're dead to him. Especially for Suyin, the son she knew is just...gone. Remember why he distanced himself from his family in the first place: He was tired of having to live in their shadows that he almost never had an identity for himself. If anything by the time he comes to, he will probably steal a hummingbird mechAsuit and tell team avatar how hopeless it is to stop Kuvira before making a classic villain getaway.

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    • Torresp wrote:

      Supermensch wrote:

      Torresp wrote: "Kuvira's my family now!", it's almost like he's dead to his family.

      I think you mean "it's almost like his family is dead to him" or perhaps "was", since now that Kuvira's betrayed him he doesn't have a lot of options besides going back to his old family.
      Well it goes both ways. He's dead to them, they're dead to him. Especially for Suyin, the son she knew is just...gone. Remember why he distanced himself from his family in the first place: He was tired of having to live in their shadows that he almost never had an identity for himself. If anything by the time he comes to, he will probably steal a hummingbird mechAsuit and tell team avatar how hopeless it is to stop Kuvira before making a classic villain getaway.

      I doubt Baatar Jr. would go back to Kuvira after almost getting blasted by the giant robot.

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    • Vgiannell5 wrote:

      Torresp wrote:

      Supermensch wrote:

      Torresp wrote: "Kuvira's my family now!", it's almost like he's dead to his family.

      I think you mean "it's almost like his family is dead to him" or perhaps "was", since now that Kuvira's betrayed him he doesn't have a lot of options besides going back to his old family.
      Well it goes both ways. He's dead to them, they're dead to him. Especially for Suyin, the son she knew is just...gone. Remember why he distanced himself from his family in the first place: He was tired of having to live in their shadows that he almost never had an identity for himself. If anything by the time he comes to, he will probably steal a hummingbird mechAsuit and tell team avatar how hopeless it is to stop Kuvira before making a classic villain getaway.

      I doubt Baatar Jr. would go back to Kuvira after almost getting blasted by the giant robot.

      I mean more like a getaway where neither Kuvira nor Team Avatar will be able to find him.

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    • According Lin finally moved permanently to Suyin on Zaofu?

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    • its disappointing that Baatar Jr switched back to their side

      Suyin immediately forgave him, but Kuvira is going to get her punishment

      not cool. she didn't force him to do anything. he was well aware her actions, and did some morally wrong things himself

      if she gets punished, so should he.

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    • Gdamon wrote:
      its disappointing that Baatar Jr switched back to their side

      Suyin immediately forgave him, but Kuvira is going to get her punishment

      not cool. she didn't force him to do anything. he was well aware her actions, and did some morally wrong things himself

      if she gets punished, so should he.

      He probably might end up in Suyin's custody.

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    • The thing is, Baatar Jr is Suyin's son. He was blinded by his love for Kuvira. Kuvira however, gets no leeway because Suyin already gave her a second chance (due to her parents abandoning her), but Kuvira ruined that by trying to impose another one's ideals on a group of people. In doing do did she defy Suyin,

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    • This is kind of off topic, but we never found out who Su's father is... :(

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    • I don't think I would put the Beifong dysfunction above royal Fire Nation dysfunction. One family has a lot of arguments. The other tries to murder each other. Apples and oranges.

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