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  • It should have been called "of service" unless they went for ironic in that the Earth Kingdom wasn't all about freedom and Kuvira getting it is in keeping with tradition. I wonder if Long Feng ever got it or was nominated for it?

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    • The "of Freedom" part of its name is actually unnecessary. By crushing the Kyoshi Medal, Kuvira established herself as the antithesis to Avatar Kyoshi's ideals, paralleling Chin the Conqueror.

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    • Flechazo wrote: The "of Freedom" part of its name is actually unnecessary. By crushing the Kyoshi Medal, Kuvira established herself as the antithesis to Avatar Kyoshi's ideals, paralleling Chin the Conqueror.

      Kyoshi seemed to be all about serving HER people, so I found it strange that she would be associated with the concept of freedom as much as she helped her people escape from Chin the Conqueror, she also allowed the monarchy to continue in the form that Aang and Korra found it in; instead of actually reforming it, she helped create one of the biggest tools of oppression of the Earth Kingdom, the Dai Li, and is not like she didn't have the chance to do so, she just didn't seem to care for politics.

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    • Well, Kyoshi did free her people from Chin the Conqueror's reign. She saw him as a power-hungry dictator scrambling for power and ended him. With Kuvira, she is fighting bandits who are also scrambling to take power from others, though on a smaller scale. As a whole, all the bandits posed a threat similar to Chin's in destroying the balance of the Earth Kingdom. A lot of it is irony too. Of course Kuvira herself is a lot like Chin, and Kyoshi herself created the Dai Li, a group that has done so much in oppressing and shrouding the Earth people in ignorance. Korra needs to strike that balance between order and chaos, because Kuvira doesn't know how to. Turtleduck (wallcontribs) 03:33, October 23, 2014 (UTC) 

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    • She flatly refused the king's order to squelch a peasant revolt, only formed the Dai Li (who became corrupt after her time) to placate said king on the grounds that he listened to the demands of his subjects, and...yeah, did away with Chin (or rather, allowed himself to do away with himself).  While I wouldn't associate any of that explicitly with freedom, it was about people's rights (a concept which is often associated).

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    • Well what exactly was the point of the Dai Li in the first place?! Something about preserving the culture of the Earth Kingdom yet they were trained by Kyoshi to be a martial force of some kind, how were they not just called a police force! I mean that was probably the dumbest thing she did and she is stubborn as she believes that she did kill Chin just not directly. Do we know when the peasant rebellion happened, was it before, during or after Kyoshi Island's separation?

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    • I think the naming of the metal was, in part, a foreshadowing of what will happen to Korra in their first encounter. Kyoshi definitely didn't make me think of someone who emphasized freedom. She's also the only EN Avatar we know of. Yeah, she created Kyoshi Island for some measure of independance, but considering her basic personality traits and other actions...

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    • Maybe it is just named after avatar Kyoshi for freeing the Earth kingdom from Chin.

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    • Of course, they gave her this medal for unifying/reconquering the country...with their blessing to begin with, aren't Wu and the United Republic also like Chin the Conqueror in this ideological sense?

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    • Medal people, medal....not metal.

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    • Weltall8000 wrote:
      Of course, they gave her this medal for unifying/reconquering the country...with their blessing to begin with, aren't Wu and the United Republic also like Chin the Conqueror in this ideological sense?

      How is the United Republic like Chin The Conqurer?

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    • Of course, they gave her this medal for unifying/reconquering the country...with their blessing to begin with, aren't Wu and the United Republic also like Chin the Conqueror in this ideological sense?

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    • Weltall8000 wrote:
      Of course, they gave her this medal for unifying/reconquering the country...with their blessing to begin with, aren't Wu and the United Republic also like Chin the Conqueror in this ideological sense?

      Chin didn't give out Medals for that.

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    • Jey8000 wrote:
      Well what exactly was the point of the Dai Li in the first place?! Something about preserving the culture of the Earth Kingdom yet they were trained by Kyoshi to be a martial force of some kind, how were they not just called a police force! I mean that was probably the dumbest thing she did and she is stubborn as she believes that she did kill Chin just not directly. Do we know when the peasant rebellion happened, was it before, during or after Kyoshi Island's separation?

      IKR, training a special force thats going to turn bad is a real dumb thing to do, especially if you have the power to see the future as the avatar.

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    • Point being, they wanted Kuvira to unify/conquer the Earth Nation for them, which is what Chin did (conquer/unify the Earth Nations). So, while they didn't do what Chin did, they wanted that same thing. So, their ideals were in line with each other.

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    • Weltall8000 wrote:
      Point being, they wanted Kuvira to unify/conquer the Earth Nation for them, which is what Chin did (conquer/unify the Earth Nations). So, while they didn't do what Chin did, they wanted that same thing. So, their ideals were in line with each other.

      Oh I understand.

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    • It is possible that the medal is just supposed to be similar to the Presidential Medal of Freedom in the real world and that the "of freedom part" hs no significant meaning.

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    • PhysicistsareawesomePHD wrote: It is possible that the medal is just supposed to be similar to the Presidential Medal of Freedom in the real world and that the "of freedom part" hs no significant meaning.

      According to Wikipedia the Presidential Medal of Freedom is supposed to [recognize] those people who have made "an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors"

      Another name they could've given to the medal would have been "Kyoshi Medal of [Merit]". Kuvira accomplish what many others thought would not happen, at least not quickly, which was to reunify the lands of the former Earth Kingdom and that is very meritorious of her to do.

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    • I think the name is meant to be ironic.

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    • Avatar thoyrn wrote: I think the name is meant to be ironic.

      More than likely as both Kyoshi and Kuvira weren't really about freedom, Kuvira more than Kyoshi.

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