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  • What were the used for?

    They must have had a purpose, something they did outside of their cells, or else tey would have had no reason to be kept alive, right? Hama was apparently kept alive decades, but why? Why did they kill Kya (Katara's mother), but kept all the other waterbenders alive? There mst be a reason.

    AND if there was a reason why the original waterbenders were ept alive, why was Kya not cptured with them? It culd have been done easially, no doubt, but the Southern Raiders chose to kill her. Why? Why was their goal 60+ years ago to capture and keep the waterbenders alive, but not the 'last waterbender' of the S.W.T'?

    Any help on this matter is welcome. 

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    • Cant be certain but...

      The war wasnt so "hardcore" or "brutal" as it just started during Hamas time. They didnt kill Hama and the prisioners, but with the waterbenders in captivity they had no way of stopping the war later on. This also stops them from reproducting more water benders, although the ability found its way to Katara.

      During Kyas time, the war has gotton alot worse. When Katara was announced an waterbender and Yon Rha was sent to capture her, Yon took the simple easy way and killed her on the spot, rather than imprisioning her. As Katara says during her revenge, she would have went easier on him if he imprisioned her rather than murder.

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    • If I had to guess, it could be that the Fire Nation wasn't sure if Aang had reincarnated yet, and was playing it safe by keeping a close eye on the Water Tribes in case a succeeding Avatar revealed his/herself as one of the waterbenders. As they couldn't mount an assault for years in the North due to its defenses, they focused on the South, and kept the waterbenders alive in case one of them showed signs of being the Avatar (and could be in turn kept alive to stop him/her from reincarnating).

      As for why Yon Rha killed Kya, I would bet on the reason being he was a cold, cruel sadist who had no interest in capturing prisoners. He probably wasn't aware of any grand plan other than his orders to keep an eye on what remained of the Southern Water Tribe.

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    • Im surprised Sozin tried to hunt the Avatar for such a long time after the Air Nomad Genocide

      Remember: Avatars arent usually told they are the Avatar until they are like 16, and Aang was told this when he was like 12. Why didnt the Fire nation think they actually killed the Avatar in the Air Nomad genocide, the Avatar is no different from the others until they are taught to bend other elements. Similar to how Roku was just an fire nation noble, he wasnt seen as anything special until he turned 16 and was told he was the Avatar

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    • My guess is he was counting on the Avatar State to trigger during the genocide to identify the Avatar. Even if the Avatar hadn't been told of his destiny, the defense mechanism would have probably still triggered with the Avatar and his loved one's lives in danger.

      Since he heard no reports of glowing tattoos, Sozin probably figured the Avatar had somehow escaped, thus his frantic searching.

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    • Generally, when a nation is attempting to subdue a hostile population they do two things. First, they disarm them. Benders are essentially human weapons from a military perspective, so they have to be removed from the field. Second, you take hostages to ensure cooperation. That is likely why they captured waterbenders rather than killing them in the past. Given their importance in Water Tribe culture, the SWT likely wouldn't risk large-scale action against the Fire Nation if the lives of their benders were on the line. Of course, by the time Kya was killed, the SWT were no longer a real threat to the Fire Nation. They didn't need them to 'stay down'. So killing the last waterbender was simpler than capturing her.

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    • All brilliant ideas! Thanks, guys for the help. Truly this fanbase is better than most. :)

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    • AvatarMako wrote:
      All brilliant ideas! Thanks, guys for the help. Truly this fanbase is better than most. :)

      Dont worry, I was flamed in a PvZ wiki forum because I didnt believe turnips were bronies

      As much as the Avatar state being an emergency state, the fire nation would probably still not rely on seeing the Avatar in such state. Why? Remember how Roku couldnt enter the Avatar state for such a long time? Much after he was even announced the Avatar? Many Avatars couldnt enter the Avatar state even during emergencies, such as the time Korra was blood bent then stripped of bending abilities
      Amon taking Korra's bending

      The neutralization process

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    • Thinklogic wrote:
      AvatarMako wrote:
      All brilliant ideas! Thanks, guys for the help. Truly this fanbase is better than most. :)
      Dont worry, I was flamed in a PvZ wiki forum because I didnt believe turnips were bronies As much as the Avatar state being an emergency state, the fire nation would probably still not rely on seeing the Avatar in such state. Why? Remember how Roku couldnt enter the Avatar state for such a long time? Much after he was even announced the Avatar? Many Avatars couldnt enter the Avatar state even during emergencies, such as the time Korra was blood bent then stripped of bending abilities
      Amon taking Korra's bending

      The neutralization process

      Good point. So in that case, why do you think the waterbenders were kept alive? Is it possible that some of them served a purpose,  forced to use their powers to help the FN in some ways?

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    • I was thinking either a rouge water bender army. Or having prisoners as black mail. They would threaten to kill prisoners if the water tribe didn't give up land or something.

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    • I think the Southern Raiders just felt like to do so. It didn't have to be an order from the Firelord.

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    • -Darjeeling- wrote:
      I think the Southern Raiders just felt like to do so. It didn't have to be an order from the Firelord.

      What? Who would go all the way to the South Pole just to kill the last waterbender, without the Fire Lord's permission? Why? And if they did do it without Fire Nation clearance, what if Ozai didn't want her dead? That sure wouldn't end well for the Raiders. No, they had orders. Logic dictates that much. 

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    • I think the Firelord wouldn't mind killing. Btw, it was still Azulon's era.

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    • Maybe the Fire Nation experimented on the prisoners in order to learn about a waterbender's weaknesses. It's also possible that the Fire Nation interrogated them about the Southern Tribe's defenses in preparation for future raids.

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    • Perhaps for prisoner swaps, menial labor, scientific studies, or maybe they just weren't that cruel back then. It could have also been possible that they killed the Avatar in their raids, in which case the Avatar would have reincarnated into the Water Tribe. While they couldn't invade the North, and  they likely couldn't determine for sure if the Avatar had reincarnated, they likely figured it would be better safe than sorry, because if the Avatar did reincarnate and they captured him/her, keeping the Avatar alive would mean that they couldn't do anything, couldn't master their abilities, and wouldn't reincarnate for a long time. But if they killed all the Waterbenders, and risked the possibility that one of them was the Avatar, they would simply reincarnate (hence why Zuko was tasked with capturing the Avatar, and not killing him, because the fire nation would have to begin their search again) into the earth kingdom, and obviously the Fire Nation wasn't capable of launching a full-scale invasion of the entire earth kingdom just to find one of millions of people (otherwise the war wouldn't have lasted 100 years, as it took them that long just to capture Ba Sing Se, and even then, they didn't completely control the Earth Kingdom, not to mention the Water Tribe was still free).

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    • Maybe to broken them and make them fight for the fire nation like how the Earth Queen tried to do

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    • simple answer intimidation. also lots of other orders. after they captured all the other southern benders and found out that kya was the last swt bender ( i know she lied to protect katara) they must of reilized that she was two young to be the avatar. after that the must of decided that the airbender is still alive or that the avatar lives in the north. perhaps mabye thats why ron yha was unemployed because of there being no point in the souther aiders anymore. i thinck they captured them aswell because of capturing not killing the avatar, torture, labour, hostage,experimentation. i have a feeling that they also did this to airbender genoicide survivors. i read the comic relics and it turned out hat people did survive but were murdered again. i also have a theory that sky bison were kept captive and after the war they were released and appa could breed and become the farther of oogi

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    • Maybe they were just feeling extra savage.

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