Bumi, he was shown not even touching earth and was able to bend it.
Though if someone wants to argue that it was because his metal box was touching earth, one could almost say he could have bent metal before Toph in a sense. Or I just like causing discussion, either really ^-^
I think they're pretty even. We've seen both lift up huge chunks of earth/rock and bend it to their will. Even if Bumi doesn't know how to metalbend, he can still keep earthbending while not touching any earth.
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8th Hero of Olympus wrote: In one of the canonical comics... I forget what it's called...
Oh then this discussion has no point. Case closed.
The Comic was called Bumi vs. Toph, Round One However Bumi and Toph drew because Katara, Zuko and the members of the Order of the White Lotus (it took place during Sozin's Comet) broke up the fight. There was no metal anywhere on the arena that they were fighting on, it was all Earth.
Bumi and Toph's match in the comics was declared a draw because it was interrupted, but that's a neat trick comic book writers have been pulling since forever to keep from irking fans by having their favorite character lose.
That said, the match shows us that Bumi and Toph are roughly equal in skill. Both are very skilled on defense and anticipating enemy attacks, which means that both of them would have trouble landing a match-ending move. Thus, the fight would last a very long time and most likely be decided by stamina, in which I believe Bumi has the advantage, seeeing as how he fought his way through an entire city single-handed while throwing and lifting massive objects, repeatedly. Toph's metal-bending gives her a slight advantage, since metal is usually stronger than rock, but that doesn't mean a metal attack would be able to cut clean through Bumi's defenses. Bumi most likely wins, albeit after a very long struggle.
That said, Grandma Toph (from Legend of Korra) would stomp Bumi flat. She was nearly on his level when she was only 12, while he was over one-hundred. Given time to develop her skills and experience, I have no doubts that Toph would be far out of Bumi's league.
Toph has actually held very large loads for very long times on at least 3 separate occasions: Holding up the library, holding back the drill, & holding up the collapsed mine in The Rift. So she has plenty of stamina.
I agree with you, if the outcome is unclear when Toph is 12, she'd certainly surpass Bumi when she was older, if she hadn't already.
Stomp Bumi flat? Psssssssh, they've never faced each other. Can you really tell which level they are on against each other? From what I've noticed, Toph gets the advantages in all her matches solely because of vibrations.
Sure, she's an amazing earthbender in the original series, but against a 112-year old man with nearly that many years to practice his bending, she might be defeated in a relatively short time. Although a match might go the completely opposite way because of Bumi's weight, it's likely Bumi would emerge victorious without too much struggle.
With a "Grandma Toph," Bumi would still hold his own, but the outcome is unclear. I personally believe that if Bumi is still 112 and Toph is the average grandparent age, then Toph would eventually emerge victorious, but with a mighty struggle.
I say Bumi because he has so much experience he can bend using just his face. Metal bending, while impressive, does not make Toph better than others. I will admit that I'm a tad bias as I find Toph overrated, but I still believe this.
Avatar Beta wrote: I say Bumi because he has so much experience he can bend using just his face. Metal bending, while impressive, does not make Toph better than others. I will admit that I'm a tad bias as I find Toph overrated, but I still believe this.
Agreed. Toph may have metalbending, but Bumi has far more experience and discipline than she does.
The comics said it was a draw when she was 12, but Bumi clearly aged better considering the dude was the Hulk at 112 while 80-something Toph threw her back out dishing out one (albeit devastating) wave then immediately retired.
There's been a debate about whether it's realistic (considering how much damage the Gaang went through as children) or bisonshit that the old-timers from "A:TLA" held up better than the ones in "Korra," but the fact remains is Toph ended up looking like Yoda/Sophia from "Golden Girls" and Bumi pretended to be as decrepit as Mr. Burns when he was actually Jack Lalane and/or one of those informercials of 70-year-old guys built like 20-year-old bodybuilders.