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  • For awhile I just assumed people always support Katara despite her being an unlikeable bitch because they thought she was perfect. But then I realized it's not because people think Katara is inherently perfect. It's because the people she butts heads with are jerks so people think Katara is a poor innocent angel who is being unfairly bullied by the mean assholes.

    Take Pakku for example. He made a smartass comment and refused to duel her when she challenged him, so she assaulted him. Katara was 100% in the wrong to attack Pakku, but she could have murdered his family and bathed in their blood while Pakku watched and people would still say Pakku deserved it for being a bully.

    It's really not about Katara at all. It's all down to attitude people have to bullying, where any form of retaliation, no matter how extreme, is seen as justified because the bullies "had it coming".

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    • Well, yes and no. The murdering his family and and bathing in their blood thing would probably be pushing it, to say the least. People support Katara because she is progressive, at least for an early Industrial Revolution age. As with the Pakku example above, she even flat out says she doesn't care she's not going to win, she's doing it to make a point: showing the people of the Northern Watertribe that an unexperienced girl can give this old master a run for his money. The issues with Jet speak for themselves, and so do those with Zuko. 

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    • Watch your tongue.

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    • MerlinTheFairyFox wrote:
      Watch your tongue.

      Why? 

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    • Onomatopoeia wrote:
      For awhile I just assumed people always support Katara despite her being an unlikeable bitch

      Read that, and LMAO, and thought "I'm reading the rest of this."

      Onomatopoeia wrote:

      Take Pakku for example. He made a smartass comment and refused to duel her when she challenged him, so she assaulted him. Katara was 100% in the wrong to attack Pakku, but she could have murdered his family and bathed in their blood while Pakku watched and people would still say Pakku deserved it for being a bully.

      On this point, I completely agree. I never thought it was right for Katara to attack Pakku. I thought "so she expects this man to change his beliefs and go against his culture just to teach her combat waterbending?"

      I thought no matter how much she disagreed with the culture of the NWT she should have respected it. I don't think she should have blamed him for refusing to teach her waterbending.

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    • How do you close a thread. I want to close this one because of all the cussing

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    • MerlinTheFairyFox wrote: Watch your tongue.

      Thank you😊

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    • Catsrthebest wrote: How do you close a thread. I want to close this one because of all the cussing

      Well, fuck.

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    • Gee thanks. Also I am a girl so stop referring to me as he on all the other threads. And stop trolling me.

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    • I still don't get. Also you are like my worst shipping war enemy right now stop it.

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    • No comment 😜

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    • What?

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    • katara has her flaws but she has her decent development unlike a certain other southern tribe female waterbender

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    • AntJenkins wrote:

      I thought no matter how much she disagreed with the culture of the NWT she should have respected it. I don't think she should have blamed him for refusing to teach her waterbending.

      You're forgetting that the franchise has never let Culture Justify Everything (or choosing "Good" over the "To Be Lawful or be Good" question,) especially when said culture goes against said franchise's Central Theme of equality. The Fire Nation was in the wrong/out of balance invading other nations, the Earth Queen was in the wrong/out of balance in abducting the new Air Nation despite Bumi arguing conscription and the Water Tribes were in the wrong in the sexism. Pakku's sexism/entitlement cost him Kanna (until decades later) and not only disrespected/ignored Katara's accomplishments in aiding The Avatar in reaching the NWT, said sexism was impractical in nearly costing the fate of the world for not aiding a proven warrior against the enemy and then refusing to train The Avatar, himself for not following suit in said bigotry. Just like Piando was in the right for believing that the arts/swordsmanship shouldn't be restricted to just Fire Nationals, Katara, crude or not, was in the right in challenging him and had the moral victory because of it.


      Plank2x4 wrote: katara has her flaws but she has her decent development unlike a certain other southern tribe female waterbender

      Weak trolling again, you don't like Korra, you stubbornly ignore why she was the way she was and especially the legit character development she went through, which was far more than Aang needing not one, but two Deus Ex Machinas to save his ass.

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    • I don't ignore it I just don't give a fuck about a vague character that fucks shit up without any consequences because she's the avatar nor earn anything to even justify her as the avatar instead it's all given and she can't live without it. she didn't even took out that shitty villain from her trash comics you just like the fandom is blind to see what the "sequel" truly is

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    • Weak trolling again, you don't like Korra, you stubbornly ignore why she was the way she was and especially the legit character development she went through, which was far more than Aang needing not one, but two Deus Ex Machinas to save his ass.

      Oh, so he's back to forcing that through again, I was wondering what he was on about.

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    • Plank2x4 wrote: I don't ignore it I just don't give a fuck about a vague character that fucks shit up without any consequences because she's the avatar nor earn anything to even justify her as the avatar instead it's all given and she can't live without it. she didn't even took out that shitty villain from her trash comics you just like the fandom is blind to see what the "sequel" truly is

      Yeah, you're ignoring it.

      It doesn't look like you know what "vague" means either when Korra has a clear character development over the seasons, she's absolutely faced consequences for her actions and beats herself up over it constantly (ex. "Remembrances" is basically Asami and Tenzin giving her a pep talk) and she you conveniently forget/ignore (again) that she beat Kuvira solo without using the AS and would've done it faster had Mako not blown the damn thing up.

      And not only are you a broken record, but it's the same Nostalgia-blind bisonshit that not only excuses Aang's flaws to dump on Korra, it's also clearly ignoring Katara's foibles such as "The Waterbending Scroll" all being because she was jealous of Aang's skills and stole the titular scroll from pirates that got her temporarily captured. This coming from a girl who has no such excuse of a sheltered upbringing yet everybody's too busy shipping her to remember that tidbit.

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    • she's a clear character alright a clear psychopath what consequences exactly? she was pardoned for her crimes on the first episode and she still taunted the officer who released her whatever she accomplished or achieved obviously had no meaning if it's forgettable considering you only mentioned one

      but I still remember the time katara was in awe at aang an her other flawed moments a specially the one where she searched for justice upon her mother's killer and not only did she speared him but she didn't forgive him something korra could never do she would have done worse and turn to the worst but at least she's not worse than psycho azula so I will give you that

      and for the record I like things that grow to earn it rightfully instead of just liking just because you're a blind simpleton

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    • Every person has it's own flaws and greatness, so you can't compare the characters, and some people may like them, some may not, that's how it goes, so I think you two should stop arguing. It leads to nowhere.

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    • and some aren't even aware what they watch or why

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    • Well people can watch it however they want. Maybe they watch it for fun, so they don't care about the flaws. Some people are watchful and they notice flaws and interesting stuff. Some people just don't care. I am all of those people. Sometimes I notice good paralells in the stories, sometimes I notice flaws, sometimes many things go unnoticed for me. I often go with the wave of just... watching it. But there times when I notice stuff. Hm, I am not good at this.

      With the show, well, I watched it and thought : oh now this character does this, I wonder what will happen.... Now I did not except this to happen... Or... Yay, what I imagined come true, yaay, I was intuitive (really, I am amazed, because I am usually just plain dumb...) I just don't judge people in shows. I just enjoy it. They are fictional people. I know that they are good or they are evil or they are complex. I always root for either side since I was a child. I want to know what will happen if the good guys win, but I also want to know what will happen if the evil guys win. Of course sometimes I think : wow that was so cruel. But then I move on. That is why I cannot comment any relevant thing here. :/

      Well, what ever, this was irrelevant, but I thought I may write something. :(

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    • Well people can watch it however they want. Maybe they watch it for fun, so they don't care about the flaws. Some people are watchful and they notice flaws and interesting stuff.

      I just don't think Plank's dichotomy is well supported anywhere other than his own mind. O-kei soundly rebutted him, & he responded with a frankly poorly spelled post dodging the counterpoints & insulting them. Looks a lot more like blind hatred than some impartial bastion of reason.

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    • don't presume my mindset boy I just gave my view of the series and frankly I don't care about korra nor it's universe I am here to discuss about the avatar last air bender universe but someone just had to poorly defend korra just because I stated the truth this fucker started it

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    • don't presume my mindset

      You have absolutely no business demanding this.

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    • Ok, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, so nobody gonna win the argument. Let's talk about the topic

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    • The topic is also biased & has been dead for a year.

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