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    02:14, July 4, 2014

    Ok, bare with me. This might sound like complete crap, it probably is complete crap, but give it the benefit of the doubt and just come together and imagine for a second:

    What if Disney bought Avatar property from Viacom?

    Disney has a track record for making great film adaptions of popular media (i.e. The Avengers, their animated films) and not only bought bigger, more expensive franchises but have actually bought rights to properties that Viacom used to own (i.e. Indiana Jones, The Avengers, Iron Man 3 and the rest of Marvel). Spending about 5 billion each to obtain them, they even have Star Wars now which, like it or not, is one of the biggest franchises in the world, to for 5 billion.

    Now imagine for a moment that Disney decided to obtain a highly profitable franchise like Avatar and not only bring Legend of Korra to Disney Channel but also be able to produce an animated Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra film! They're already doing an animated adaption of a Marvel property, so a franchise already known for it's beautiful animation from the same studio that brought us The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King, Wreck-It Ralph and recently Frozen with the same writing and care as those films.

    Disney has bought more popular franchises in the past (Marvel's, Pixar's, Star Wars, Indiana Jones and the other Lucas franchises). All that have been released have been well-recieved box office hits (except for Cars, Cars 2 and Brave). So a franchise like Avatar is not only plausable, but the premise can easily appeal to audiences of all ages on the big screen just like how it did on the small screen. And before those saying they'll "Disney-fy" it, the Marvel films are still very much the same. And of course, no Shamalamadingdong making another sequel for the film unless he asks Disney to make one which I doubt.

    So what do you think? Would you like Disney to buy Avatar so we can have a true, good movie based on the franchise released? Give your thoughts below!

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    • It would be interesting to see what Disney would do with the franchise. After Shyamalan's epic failure, I'm kinda skeptic about new attempts to convert the series into a live-action movie trilogy though. I'd rather stick with the animated characters.

      General Nowacking wrote:
      Ok, bare with me.

      I'm not a nudist. :P

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    • Nick didn't want to do a follow-up series after ATLA ended, even allowed Mike and Bryan to pitch it to Disney instead[1] but whatever you think of the movie, its box office returns is enough to embarrass Nick execs' into greenlighting The Legend of Korra.[2]

      sanjuro_ronin wrote on October 13 2009:
      We are finishing up Season 3 already. And mi wife loves the series as much as me and the little ones. One problem, when its over, now what? Any suggestions for another series as cool as Avatar?
      Sifu Kisu wrote on October 14 2009:
      My team has pitched a few new ideas to Nick and Disney but at the height of the recession no one was willing to green light any new projects. I hear things are getting better. Are they?

      In life, you take the good with the bad...

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    • @Hasdi:

      I question the liablity of the first source

      Actually, according to their documentary for the show (can't remember the name), the team and the channel wanted more but it was Bryke that only wanted 3 seasons, that was already planned out and that the network actually loved the story when it was pitched and then a bit before Korra was released, Nick renewed the series for the 3 additional seasons. So I doubt Nick was giving the shaft to the franchise that was critically acclaimed[1], had huge ratings that beat out both Disney and Cartoon Network shows in ratings (until GF and AT came)[2] and even grossed more than 300 MILLION DOLLARS from the movie. Critical failure or not, Hasdi, that much money for a 150 million dollar budget is a lot. Seriously, that's a lot of money for a bad film so I don't know why you would call it a stretch for Disney to buy the franchise since there is another terrible film franchise that Viacom owns that even grossed millions of dollars in the box office and not only got sequels but became a pop culture phenomenon even though it's first sequel that was even compared with The Last Airbender in terms of pure terrible-ness, too grossed "$836,303,693" and the third, which also sucked, grossed a billion dollars in the box office and is now the 12th highest grossing movie franchise of all time. So, no, Hollywood doesn't care if the film sucks, especially Viacom, if the film grosses a lot of money, it'll be a franchise they'll expand on. Critical failure or not. The Last Airbender wasn't a giantic box office sucess but still, 300 million dollars box office, that's still a lot of money in Hollywood.

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    • so long as bryke stays at the helm of the franchise, i really don't care what network it's aired on. although that said, the crap we're getting (or not getting) from nick right now is a little annoying.

      i thought of this when i saw this thread... http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a0/5a/a9/a05aa945fcedd12302b6388222207df1.jpg

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    • And yes, it's true that Nick was skeptical of Korra but one of the only, official reasons why they were was because of the decision to make Korra a female hero and Nick was worried that little boys wouldn't get into the show with a female lead since girls have cooties, bro. Disgusting, disgusting cooties.

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    • General Nowacking wrote:
      Actually, according to their documentary for the show (can't remember the name), the team and the channel wanted more but it was Bryke that only wanted 3 seasons, that was already planned out
      The name of the documentary is Avatar Spirits. For Book 3, Nick gave the team money only for 20 episodes but if watched towards the end, the team offered to work extra hours and pay from their own pocket to cover another episode for Sozin's Comet "movie". Bryke planned for four seasons, but the last two was compacted into Book 3 to "finish the tale".
      General Nowacking wrote:
      one of the only, official reasons why they were was because of the decision to make Korra a female hero and Nick was worried that little boys wouldn't get into the show with a female lead since girls have cooties, bro.

      Actually, execs these days do not want girls watching animated series with superpowered characters because girls "do not buy toys" for boys.[1] True story, yo. xP

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    • Fair argument, I guess. But in my defense, my topic isn't just "would they buy the franchise" but also, what do you think would happen if Disney got that critically acclaimed franchise from Viacom and made proper, animated adaptions of it on their channel/making a true adaption of the original series and oh god, a Disney ride based on the show, just riding Appa in on a rollercoaster would be an amazing experience!

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    • (ecstatic thoughts racing...)

      Avatar bought by Disney...(longshot but...) The Avatarverse included in KH?

      Oh my Keyblades! YES!

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    • I'D COMPLETELEY MOVE ON AND STAY ON THE TFP FANDOM AND ME AND MY BF (who's girl[and I'm a guy])WOULD EITHER HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS OR MOVE ALONG IN DIFFERENT DORECTIONS OR GO BACK TO PKMN, SHE WOULDN'T

      SO,BO SAYS NO!

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    • @snarky

      KH?

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    • Intelligence4 wrote:

      KH?

      Kingdom Hearts. Although, I think it may have a shot at Disney Infinity instead. 

      640px-Original_Characters.jpg


      General Nowacking wrote:

      what do you think would happen if Disney got that critically acclaimed franchise from Viacom

      Frank Marshall and his wife Kathleen Kennedy have a close relationship with Disney when it comes to translating and distributing Hayao Miyazaki movies in the United States. With their support, I'd think the chances of animated movies for Airbender and Korra is better under Disney. They produced Hook, so it'd be great to reunite with Dante Basco, the actor for Rufio. Of course, after the backlash from the fans and crew on adapting the live-action movie, why would they?

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    • A keyblade for getting through Avatar world. 

      "Four Nations". Awesomeness.

      I don't know, guys. They might revisit the idea of movies. Maybe not live action, but certainly with Pixar involved we might get something pretty awesome.

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    • Fire Nation Heartless. Fire Lord Ozai uses the power of the heartless with Sozin's Comet to rule the world.

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    • Ahhh...cool. Ozai as the level boss. Having Aang as a summonable character.

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    • three really good things could happen 1) the promise, the search and the rift parts 1,2 and 3 could become TV movies 2) characters in ATLA and LOK could be characters in Disney infinity 3)we will get more Avatar video games otherwise you better keep everybody on staff the writers the current staff EVERYBODY or I will KILL DISNEY IF THEY CHANGE ONE THING ABOUT ANYTHING AVATAR RELATED (except the above).

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    • People here seem to be optimistic about the idea of letting Avatar get absorbed into the Disney Empire like all those other good franchises. For the pixar movies that have done well and that have come out recently, I'd like to point out that those movies were only good because of the talent and experience of the people making them, not necessarily the company producing it. True, Avatar would have greater financial success under the wing of a larger corporation, but disney is a really accident prone organization. Do any of you remember the era of crappy disney sequels! Disney has the potential to be just as money grubbing and soulless as any other studio, so I wouldn't get my hopes up.    

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    • Disney had their chance to do a follow-up to ATLA and they passed. Disney has more IPs than they know what do with it. Like other studios including Nick, Disney would rather have unused IPs (like Gargoyles) collecting dust in the vault, than to sell them off to a competitor only to turn their own products against them.

      Then again, if Disney made an offer too good for Viacom to refuse, Viacom would sell, like how Viacom sold off the distributions rights to Marvel movies starting with The Avengers and Iron Man 3 [1]. More recently, Viacom sold off the remaining rights to Indiana Jones to Disney [2] so now, Frank Marshall gets to sit in a nice little Indiana Jones office on the Disney lot. [3] Will he get another office for Airbender + Miyazaki films? Hmmm....

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    • Good point Hasdi

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    • Hasdi wrote:
      Disney had their chance to do a follow-up to ATLA and they passed. Disney has more IPs than they know what do with it. Like other studios including Nick, Disney would rather have unused IPs (like Gargoyles) collecting dust in the vault, than to sell them off to a competitor only to turn their own products against them.

      Then again, if Disney made an offer too good for Viacom to refuse, Viacom would sell, like how Viacom sold off the distributions rights to Marvel movies starting with The Avengers and Iron Man 3 [1]. More recently, Viacom sold off the remaining rights to Indiana Jones to Disney [2] so now, Frank Marshall gets to sit in a nice little Indiana Jones office on the Disney lot. [3] Will he get another office for Airbender + Miyazaki films? Hmmm....

      Ooo Can I have a link to that? (The stuff about Disney passing up Avatar)

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    • AvatarKatar wrote:
      Ooo Can I have a link to that? (The stuff about Disney passing up Avatar)


      See the third comment from the top. Yes, it is from Kisu. He has various accounts under the name "lokhopkuen".

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    • It would be interesting, but I want maybe Paramount and Nickelodeon to collaborate with South Korea's Cj Entertainment and China's film production if they want to do a live-action reboot of the franchise.

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    • maybe the lost adventures comics will become animated shorts.

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    • I'll pass judgement on whether or not Disney is worthy of Avatar:tLA/LoK once I see how they handle the epicness that is Star Wars, until then I'm like "Meh! I'm gonna stay neutral!" On another note...if Funimation brought rights to the series...*Psychotic Fanboy Moment XD*

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    • The Star Wars sequels will be produced by Kathleen Kennedy and her husband Frank Marshall, so considering how well they produced The Last Airbender movie I am sure the sequels will turn out just fine. Icon_mrgreen.gif

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    • The next Star Wars could be just as bad as Last Airbender and it will still make oodles of money purely on brand loyalty. Just like the Bayformers.

      Funimation is a localization company, they don't have the resources to fund their own animaton studio.

      Personally? I wish someone would buy the rights from Nick/Viacom and produce a big budget live action/animated film based on Korra/ATLA. One that at least attempts to keep closer to the source material than. . .whatever Shyamalan did. Given Viacom and Nicks poor handling of the show I don't think the franchise is going to continue for long past Korra if they don't.

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    • My biggest pet peeve as far these new Star Wars movies is that their NOT based on the expanded universe, like the Thrawn trilogy(best SW villain ever FYI).

      OK...Funimation probably won't be best choice...but if anyone with an anime-style animation studio ever took the reigns on the series...It would be Christmas time for me for the next thousand years XD( so long as they stick to material...)

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    • what exactly is disney doing with the star wars canon? i read somewhere that they were declaring basically everything but the tv shows and movies non-canon, and then reorganizing the canon... but what exactly does that mean?

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    • Well, the six movies are supposed to canon(last I heard), but anything novelized, comic book series and/or video game story plots like SW:KotOR, dubbed "The Expanded Universe"(which includes before episode 1 and after episode 6) and as of episode 7, the expanded universe isn't gonna be legit canon because 7 will be a new storyline rather than using material from the Thrawn trilogy, Reborn Emperor Arc, etc.( which sucks cuz I grew up on the continuing story arcs of the novels that take place after episode six(The New Jedi Order and Legacy Eras in particular were immensely enjoyable))...Also, the tv series is also considered Expanded Universe so its NOT gonna be canon, though there is an upcoming show "Star Wars Rebels" this fall that will be part of the reorganized canon(the very first entry of it to be exact).

      That's enough deviation from the topic at hand. I hope that explains everything. ^_^

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    • It is true that Viacom has in fact been losing money (having to stop publishing the Nickelodeon magazine) but is only unlikely that Viacom will sell the Avatar franchise since they have never sold a franchise of their Nickelodeon subsidy before to another company (or at least I am not aware of that save for other Viacom franchises that have been sold).

      If somehow Disney were to buy the rights to Avatar: The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra expect:

      • Avatar themed attractions at its theme parks
      • A possible animated feature film based on Korra or another Avatar (as such has been speculated before).
      • The shows to air on the Disney channel and not Nickelodeon or Nicktoons.
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    • Ew, no, never let that happen. Avatar is way too good for Disney.

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    • Comcast has more money and better quality than Disney's animation; Comcast should buy out Viacom if nothing else. It has the money for it, too. 

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    • Riadse96 wrote:
      It is true that Viacom has in fact been losing money (having to stop publishing the Nickelodeon magazine) but is only unlikely that Viacom will sell the Avatar franchise since they have never sold a franchise of their Nickelodeon subsidy before to another company (or at least I am not aware of that save for other Viacom franchises that have been sold).

      If somehow Disney were to buy the rights to Avatar: The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra expect:

      • Avatar themed attractions at its theme parks
      • A possible animated feature film based on Korra or another Avatar (as such has been speculated before).
      • The shows to air on the Disney channel and not Nickelodeon or Nicktoons.

      Doug was sold to Disney :P

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    • TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      Comcast has more money and better quality than Disney's animation; Comcast should buy out Viacom if nothing else. It has the money for it, too. 

      Ew, not Comcast.

      Those guys killed internet neutrality and tried buying Disney themselves.

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    • AvatarKatar wrote:

      Doug was sold to Disney :P


      True, but in reality Nickelodeon didn't sell it to Disney as the rights belonged to "Jumbo Pictures" which worked with Nickelodeon in producing the series. That was bought by Disney, which ironically they closed (most likely just merged) in 2000 after they were done with Doug and 101 Dalmations: The Series. The successor of Jumbo pictures which is now called Cartoon Pizza which co-worked with Disney in creating Stanley and Jojo's Circus.

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    • AvatarKatar wrote:
      TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      Comcast has more money and better quality than Disney's animation; Comcast should buy out Viacom if nothing else. It has the money for it, too. 
      Ew, not Comcast.

      Those guys killed internet neutrality and tried buying Disney themselves.

      Comcast owns Universal Pictures and Studios, which puts it welllllllll above anything that Disney has to offer.

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    • TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      AvatarKatar wrote:
      TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      Comcast has more money and better quality than Disney's animation; Comcast should buy out Viacom if nothing else. It has the money for it, too. 
      Ew, not Comcast.

      Those guys killed internet neutrality and tried buying Disney themselves.

      Comcast owns Universal Pictures and Studios, which puts it welllllllll above anything that Disney has to offer.

      Well, that's a matter of opinion but The Avengers was good though

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    • hey tuw, nice to see you around again! where ya been?

      considering that list of what to expect if disney got atla/lok, i would not want that to happen.

      let's be honest guys. atla/lok is too good for any of these networks haha. let's just have bryke start their own company and they can do whatever they need/want to with it.

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    • I don't think that this would be a good idea....Disney is known to mess things up during many occasions. Moreover disney sometimes targets to a younger audience. That would make Avatar less decent and will have effects to the plot of future episodes. It's pretty much what happened to Xiaolin Chronicles. :P

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    • @Antonismage I AGREE 100%!!!!

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    • Intelligence4 wrote:
      hey tuw, nice to see you around again! where ya been?

      considering that list of what to expect if disney got atla/lok, i would not want that to happen.

      let's be honest guys. atla/lok is too good for any of these networks haha. let's just have bryke start their own company and they can do whatever they need/want to with it.

      I was dead LMFAO and agreed XD

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    • AvatarKatar wrote:
      TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      AvatarKatar wrote:
      TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      Comcast has more money and better quality than Disney's animation; Comcast should buy out Viacom if nothing else. It has the money for it, too. 
      Ew, not Comcast.

      Those guys killed internet neutrality and tried buying Disney themselves.

      Comcast owns Universal Pictures and Studios, which puts it welllllllll above anything that Disney has to offer.
      Well, that's a matter of opinion but The Avengers was good though

      Eh,a gain, a amtter of opinion... and I'm still repulsed that Disney bought Marvel... I would've preferred for Comcast/Universal to... however, I did like the early origin movies for Marvel, like Thor, Ironman 1 and 2, and Captain America :) 

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    • If Disney bought the franchise, I'd imagine it would follow the same pattern as Naruto Shippuden:

      • Bought from a chief competitor (Nick for Avatar) (CN for Naruto)
      • Airs on Disney XD around 11pm on Wednesdays (Okay, we couldn't predict the time and day that closely, but it would air pretty late, considering that the majority of other programs on Disney XD are marketed towards 10 year old boys)
      • Discontinued mid-season without notice to fans (Won't do well late at night)
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    • Suzon99 wrote:
      If Disney bought the franchise, I'd imagine it would follow the same pattern as Naruto Shippuden:
      • Bought from a chief competitor (Nick for Avatar) (CN for Naruto)
      • Airs on Disney XD around 11pm on Wednesdays (Okay, we couldn't predict the time and day that closely, but it would air pretty late, considering that the majority of other programs on Disney XD are marketed towards 10 year old boys)
      • Discontinued mid-season without notice to fans (Won't do well late at night)

      EXACTLY!!!!! THAT'S WHY IT'S A HORRIBLE IDEA!!!

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    • Yeah, and at least for Naruto their are Japanese episodes still being made, but Avatar won't have that luxury, should they be aquired by Disney.

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    • Suzon99 wrote:
      Yeah, and at least for Naruto their are Japanese episodes still being made, but Avatar won't have that luxury, should they be aquired by Disney.

      Um... Point being, Naurto, in it's Japanese and Cartoon Network form, were very violent. 

      Sure, in Avatar, there's the occasional bloody scratches, but that's it. Avatar has an appeal to children too. Heck, the original series has been marketed for little kids and it's rated "Y-7".

      On top of that, it has a very dedicated fan base (As we've seen), just as dedicated as Gravity Falls, so I'm sure it'd survive and thrive.

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    • AvatarKatar wrote:

      Um... Point being, Naurto, in it's Japanese and Cartoon Network form, were very violent. 

      I believe the term your looking for is unedited anime on the Adult Swim block(specifically Toonami(its original manga form is a bit more loose and graphic still considered for teenagers though XD)).

      It would be nice if any anime studio would grab reigns of the Avatar series. Look at friggin Pokemon and Digimon...same age group and STILL anime XD

      I still say nay on Disney buying the Avatar series...it would be the same if Toho gave rights to Godzilla to Disney INSTEAD of Legendary...Nucleur Heart-Attack (OMG! Legendary...why didn't I think of that sooner!!! Sure, Godzilla 2014 had some hiccups, but they certainly did justice to Batman. It would be GODLIKE if they did something Avatar(unless The Last Avatar was of Legendary...then my point would be irrevelant XD)

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    • think about it nickelodeon would be really stupid to do something like sell the franchise but depending on the writer it may be amazing to gain it and Disney may work wonders so long as they understand the concept of the show and they would make the comics animated specials and promote many video games for Korra.

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    • I don't care how much people love Disney, I will throw up all over Disney and the Avatar creators if such an ignominous move is ever to take palce. I'm sorry, but Avatar is so grounded to Nickelodeon. It's not right, imo. It's like trying to have Viacom buy out Mickey Mouse -__-

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    • Sheesh, when my parents asked me about my media preferences they couldnt believe Avatar was made by Nickelodeon. They believed Nickelodean simply made childish stuff like Spongebob, fairly odd, Jimmy Neut, and Dora. Then suddenly in Avatar people are dying everywhere, wars, corruption, fraud... American Anime

      With Disney, they havent really made any plots or enviroments similar to Avatar so Id doubt them, but if they were to replicate an existing storyline Id let them.

      For example, Id let them make a movie of "The Search" to track Zukos mom, under the same Avatar animation and voices

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    • TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      I don't care how much people love Disney, I will throw up all over Disney and the Avatar creators if such an ignominous move is ever to take palce. I'm sorry, but Avatar is so grounded to Nickelodeon. It's not right, imo. It's like trying to have Viacom buy out Mickey Mouse -__-

      You seemed to be ok with the notion of Comcast buying out Avatar.

      Honestly, Disney seems to be a more diserable choice. If a company, say Nintendo, was ever bought out, I'd rather it be Disney than a company like Sony or Comcast (Even though, really, Sony isn't in the position to buy anything.)

      It's mostly because Nintendo, like Avatar, thinks of family first. Avatar is a family show, Nintendo is a family company, Disney is a family company, it's just one big family thing.

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    • Thinklogic wrote:
      Sheesh, when my parents asked me about my media preferences they couldnt believe Avatar was made by Nickelodeon. They believed Nickelodean simply made childish stuff like Spongebob, fairly odd, Jimmy Neut, and Dora. Then suddenly in Avatar people are dying everywhere, wars, corruption, fraud... American Anime

      With Disney, they havent really made any plots or enviroments similar to Avatar so Id doubt them, but if they were to replicate an existing storyline Id let them.

      For example, Id let them make a movie of "The Search" to track Zukos mom, under the same Avatar animation and voices

      They have touched on such issues and even had some really dark shows (See Gargoyles).

      On top of that, they owned Miramax since 1993 meaning movies like Pulp Fiction are indeed a Disney production.

      Touchstone Pictures is also a Disney company and they made films such as A Nightmare Before Christmas, Lincoln and Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

      Disney has taken risks before and I doubt they'd make an already family friendly show... family friendly!

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    • Speaking of which, Paramount Animation (Viacom's animation film division) has hired 16-year Disney veteran Lino DiSalvo as its new creative director.[1] In his last job, he served as head of animation on the Frozen movie. I can't believe Disney just let him go. Let him goooo.....

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    • Hasdi wrote:
      Speaking of which, Paramount Animation (Viacom's animation film division) has hired 16-year Disney veteran Lino DiSalvo as its new creative director.[1] In his last job, he served as head of animation on the Frozen movie. I can't believe Disney just let him go. Let him goooo.....

      They couldn't hold him back anymore!

      Let him go! Let him go!

      They watched him walk right out the doooor!

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    • Well personally the only descent work of disney was Frozen. All the others are really bad and cannot be compared to a show like Avatar.

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    • I've recently gone on youtube to see if there are any (fanon) Disney XD LOK Intro openings...nada! However, when I type LOK Toonami openings, there are a butt load of fanon Toonami openings for the Legend of Korra series that look so legit XD 

      Youtube agrees with me that the Avatar series would be more capable in CN's hands than Disneys!

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    • ShikonChireru wrote:

      Youtube agrees with me that the Avatar series would be more capable in CN's hands than Disneys!

      Well I agree with you my friend too! CN is more capable than Disney. ;D

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    • Antonismage wrote:
      ShikonChireru wrote:

      Youtube agrees with me that the Avatar series would be more capable in CN's hands than Disneys!

      Well I agree with you my friend too! CN is more capable than Disney. ;D

      No. No, it wouldn't. Really, they wouldn't. And seeing how Korra isn't playing on Nick at Night, I doubt it'd be on Adult Swim. Instead, it's be with the other CN shows like Adventure Time or Regular Show. Young Justice played during CN's block too. Korra would play in the CN block but even then, you guys are claiming that Disney would ruin the franchise. Cartoon Network would be even worst for the sheer fact that they don't want shows with a female lead because girls don't but toys.

      If you guys thought it'd be bye-bye Korra if it came to Disney, which already had a excellent show with a female lead, over at the CN, Korra would be canceled immedately.

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    • Antonismage wrote:
      Well personally the only descent work of disney was Frozen. All the others are really bad and cannot be compared to a show like Avatar.

      This is a matter of opinion, but there are more Disney productions than Frozen. Disney doesn't just produce animated films, y'know.

      They've made good programming such as Old Yeller, Gargoyles (Which was very much like Batman), The Avengers, The Marvel Cinematic Universe, A Nightmare Before Christmas and Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

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    • AvatarKatar wrote:
      Antonismage wrote:
      Well personally the only descent work of disney was Frozen. All the others are really bad and cannot be compared to a show like Avatar.
      This is a matter of opinion, but there are more Disney productions than Frozen. Disney doesn't just produce animated films, y'know.

      They've made good programming such as Old Yeller, Gargoyles (Which was very much like Batman), The Avengers, The Marvel Cinematic Universe, A Nightmare Before Christmas and Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

      Well...I said "personally" XD And you are right. Disney has indeed some some good programming. I'm just saying that it would be worse than Nick.

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    • Antonismage wrote:
      AvatarKatar wrote:
      Antonismage wrote:
      Well personally the only descent work of disney was Frozen. All the others are really bad and cannot be compared to a show like Avatar.
      This is a matter of opinion, but there are more Disney productions than Frozen. Disney doesn't just produce animated films, y'know.

      They've made good programming such as Old Yeller, Gargoyles (Which was very much like Batman), The Avengers, The Marvel Cinematic Universe, A Nightmare Before Christmas and Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

      Well...I said "personally" XD And you are right. Disney has indeed some some good programming. I'm just saying that it would be worse than Nick.

      Nah, I know. Really, I always feel a bit blegh when someone says Disney doesn't make anything good and would list the name of a Animated Disney film.

      Know I now xD

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    • Why are you people optomistic? Disney already messed up SW by not applying by the EU(Years of written history, worked hard on by the authors) are now just gone. I think Avatar is good in Nickelodeon's hands...

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    • Kingjohnrocks wrote:
      Why are you people optomistic? Disney already messed up SW by not applying by the EU(Years of written history, worked hard on by the authors) are now just gone. I think Avatar is good in Nickelodeon's hands...

      Well, to be fair, it is "Expanded Universe", meaning that they're just stories that occurred to explain events in the universe. We haven't even seen Episode 7 yet but I can already say that I think having these episodes take up materia from the Expanded Universe instead of something original would be foolish.

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    • I'm only a fan of the Toonami block of CN( considering I'm a Bleach-a-holic as much as I am cocou for Korra XD) the rest of dem shows on CN can get hammered XD(except for Adventure Time, Loiter Squad and Robot Chicken)...

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    • ShikonChireru wrote:
      Antonismage wrote:
      Ok...that link killed a big part of my liking over CN...and I was wondering why i love most of its shows...O_o
      I'm only a fan of the Toonami block of CN( considering I'm a Bleach-a-holic as much as I am cocou for Korra XD) the rest of dem shows on CN can get hammered XD(except for Adventure Time, Loiter Squad and Robot Chicken)...

      LOL XD Well still. I didn't expected that from CN. I still can't believe it.

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    • Antonismage wrote:
      Ok...that link killed a big part of my liking over CN...and I was wondering why i love most of its shows...O_o


      To be fair, Nickelodeon went through the same "no-female-lead" mentality after Judy McGrath was ousted retired on May 2011 as President of MTV Networks. Check out this video interview at 17:57 mark with Studio Mir a few months before Book 2 was released.

      To think we almost had Book 1 scrapped in the middle of production and replaced with another male Avatar. -___- Fortunately, the Nick ratings crisis in late 2011 forced Viacom to air with what Mir already animated in early 2012. Korra still struggles to get third-party merchandizing, but the deals with Dark Horse (collectibles) and Activision (video console game) looks promising.

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    • Yeah well, I'm 2-friggin' 4 and I don't buy toys! Shove that in the grenade hole, CN! Where's your money coming from NOW, eh? 

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    • ShikonChireru wrote:
      Yeah well, I'm 2-friggin' 4 and I don't buy toys! Shove that in the grenade hole, CN! Where's your money coming from NOW, eh? 

      LOL XD Ok nice! XD I think that CN is TOO DEPENDED on merchandising. What's advertising
      for? :p

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    • Amen, maybe they ought to realize their audience  is a bit more than a kid boy whose gonna see a show and go "OMG! I wanna toy of said character mommy! Buy me that toy!" I watch Toonami and A;tLA and LOK cuz its entertaining and provides indirect inspiration. I know their a LOT of people who watch these shows, boys, girls, teens, adults, etc. Anyone watch Heroes of Cosplay? ALL their cosplay ideas come from ALL forms of media. So Yes advertising!

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    • YES AT LAST! YOU KNOW PEOPLE, BECAUSE IT'S A CARTOON THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ONLY LITTLE BOYS WILL WATCH IT! -_-

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    • Antonismage wrote:
      ShikonChireru wrote:
      Yeah well, I'm 2-friggin' 4 and I don't buy toys! Shove that in the grenade hole, CN! Where's your money coming from NOW, eh? 
      LOL XD Ok nice! XD I think that CN is TOO DEPENDED on merchandising. What's advertising
      for? :p

      I think the irony is that their show, Adventure Time, is extremely popular with both boys and girls. They sell a truck ton of AT-Merchandise.

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    • Still, advertisement can give a lot of money to companies and especially channels. IF they wanted to have merchandise they should not be that depended on it.

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    • The only thing I waste my money on is video games, drawing material, delicous snacks and books, novels and most important Graphic novels/MANGA!!!! Can't wait for the new Korra game FYI XD Now THAT's advertisement, yeah!

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    • For me it's mainly games and food. XD lol

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    • Works for me lol

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    • Thinklogic wrote:
      Sheesh, when my parents asked me about my media preferences they couldnt believe Avatar was made by Nickelodeon. They believed Nickelodean simply made childish stuff like Spongebob, fairly odd, Jimmy Neut, and Dora. Then suddenly in Avatar people are dying everywhere, wars, corruption, fraud... American Anime

      With Disney, they havent really made any plots or enviroments similar to Avatar so Id doubt them, but if they were to replicate an existing storyline Id let them.

      For example, Id let them make a movie of "The Search" to track Zukos mom, under the same Avatar animation and voices

      I disagree with you so much. Disney is nothing near to Avatar in terms of its plot and other elements [pun inteded]. OddParents and Danny Phantom are more than just childish shows if you watch them closely. In some aspects, they're a lot like Avatar. Same for Jimmy Neutron. You seriously underestimate Nickelodeon's ability to go hardcore with its animation. This is a no brainer. Disney is terrible for Avatar.

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    • AvatarKatar wrote:
      TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      I don't care how much people love Disney, I will throw up all over Disney and the Avatar creators if such an ignominous move is ever to take palce. I'm sorry, but Avatar is so grounded to Nickelodeon. It's not right, imo. It's like trying to have Viacom buy out Mickey Mouse -__-
      You seemed to be ok with the notion of Comcast buying out Avatar.

      Honestly, Disney seems to be a more diserable choice. If a company, say Nintendo, was ever bought out, I'd rather it be Disney than a company like Sony or Comcast (Even though, really, Sony isn't in the position to buy anything.)

      It's mostly because Nintendo, like Avatar, thinks of family first. Avatar is a family show, Nintendo is a family company, Disney is a family company, it's just one big family thing.

      Please stop. No, the family thing is no excuse. If anything, then Disney's the kiddish one here. I will still never forgive Disney for buying out Marvel. Comcast I prefer, because it has Universal Animation, which makes phenomenal, breathtaking shows and the idea of Avatar chilling in Universal Studios, along with all the other Nicktoons, of the putrid idea of Avatar hanging alongside the Disney princesses. Avatar is a more mature, lively show that fits under the umbrella of Nick. Disney, on the other hand, is cliched to the max and more childish. I don't know what oyu guys are talking about when you say that Nick's other stuff is childish, because OddParents and Danny Phantom are both extremely intricate shows with breathtaking storylines... oh, and don't even start me on '90s Nick and its spinoffs, such as Rugrats and All Grown Up. Nick's live aciton shows, like Zoey 101, Drake and Josh, are also more mature and plot oriented. Rugrats, All Grown Up, Danny Phantom, and OddParents prove wrong the fallacious assumption that Nick is childish in its animation. Its reality shows are also quite mature.

      Avatar is perfectly fine where it is under the Nick family.

      By no means was Avatar ever specifically made to be a familyshow. Don't get me wrong, it could be a great show to watch with fmaily, and it personally was for me, but it is by no means intended or targeted toward fmailies as an audience.

      So, I disagree with all of this Disney idolatry and wanting Disney to purchase Avatar, which is just a putrid thought.

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    • TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      AvatarKatar wrote:
      TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      I don't care how much people love Disney, I will throw up all over Disney and the Avatar creators if such an ignominous move is ever to take palce. I'm sorry, but Avatar is so grounded to Nickelodeon. It's not right, imo. It's like trying to have Viacom buy out Mickey Mouse -__-
      You seemed to be ok with the notion of Comcast buying out Avatar.

      Honestly, Disney seems to be a more diserable choice. If a company, say Nintendo, was ever bought out, I'd rather it be Disney than a company like Sony or Comcast (Even though, really, Sony isn't in the position to buy anything.)

      It's mostly because Nintendo, like Avatar, thinks of family first. Avatar is a family show, Nintendo is a family company, Disney is a family company, it's just one big family thing.

      Please stop. No, the family thing is no excuse. If anything, then Disney's the kiddish one here. I will still never forgive Disney for buying out Marvel. Comcast I prefer, because it has Universal Animation, which makes phenomenal, breathtaking shows and the idea of Avatar chilling in Universal Studios, along with all the other Nicktoons, of the putrid idea of Avatar hanging alongside the Disney princesses. Avatar is a more mature, lively show that fits under the umbrella of Nick. Disney, on the other hand, is cliched to the max and more childish. I don't know what oyu guys are talking about when you say that Nick's other stuff is childish, because OddParents and Danny Phantom are both extremely intricate shows with breathtaking storylines... oh, and don't even start me on '90s Nick and its spinoffs, such as Rugrats and All Grown Up. Nick's live aciton shows, like Zoey 101, Drake and Josh, are also more mature and plot oriented. Rugrats, All Grown Up, Danny Phantom, and OddParents prove wrong the fallacious assumption that Nick is childish in its animation. Its reality shows are also quite mature.

      Avatar is perfectly fine where it is under the Nick family.

      By no means was Avatar ever specifically made to be a familyshow. Don't get me wrong, it could be a great show to watch with fmaily, and it personally was for me, but it is by no means intended or targeted toward fmailies as an audience.

      So, I disagree with all of this Disney idolatry and wanting Disney to purchase Avatar, which is just a putrid thought.

      Uh, I hate to brust your bubble but, it is. Yes, it's mature, it really is but it's still family oriented.

      I think this needs to be clear to you

      Family show =/= Kiddie show

      It's a misconception to the highest degree. A family show is a show intended for audiences of all ages, meaning anyone, kids, teens, adults-- anyone can watch. Kiddie shows are shows made for children, like Dora the Explorer, Barney the Dinosaur or Mickey Mouses' Clubhouse.

      And even then, Look at Marvel, look at it, it is still the same company it was before the buyout in 2009. They haven't began pandering to the "Disney" cliches, there's no Disney-Esque Princesses in the Marvel Universe, they're fine. The Marvel Cinematic Universe didn't all of a sudden become Pirates of Caribbeans with superheroes. Hell, look at The Avengers: Earth's Mightest Heroes. It was a completely mature, grown up, risk taking, awesome, action packed show that respected it's source materia.

      Honestly, no one, except that one guy a few messages back, was saying that Danny Phantom or Jimmy Neutron were kiddie shows.

      And even then, it's not like Disney films or shows never dealt with mature themes, heck, the entire Toy Story trilogy is ultimately a story about fear of abandonment and the inevitable.

      Gargoyles has many mature themes running through it, so much so, that I can't even count them all.

      Simba's father is killed and we see the body, the villain of Tarzan is hanged, Ursla is stabbed in the chest and the Shadow Man was dragged to hell.

      I haven't seen any Universal Animation films, except for Land Before Time, which was good.

      Disney has made mature programming before, it's not like they're strickly a family friendly company, heck, check out the films under their lable Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures or Miramax, you'll be quiet surprised at what you'd fine.

      I'm sorry if this looked like a rant but Disney isn't just a family friendly company, just like Avatar.

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    • AvatarKatar wrote:
      TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      AvatarKatar wrote:
      TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      I don't care how much people love Disney, I will throw up all over Disney and the Avatar creators if such an ignominous move is ever to take palce. I'm sorry, but Avatar is so grounded to Nickelodeon. It's not right, imo. It's like trying to have Viacom buy out Mickey Mouse -__-
      You seemed to be ok with the notion of Comcast buying out Avatar.

      Honestly, Disney seems to be a more diserable choice. If a company, say Nintendo, was ever bought out, I'd rather it be Disney than a company like Sony or Comcast (Even though, really, Sony isn't in the position to buy anything.)

      It's mostly because Nintendo, like Avatar, thinks of family first. Avatar is a family show, Nintendo is a family company, Disney is a family company, it's just one big family thing.

      Please stop. No, the family thing is no excuse. If anything, then Disney's the kiddish one here. I will still never forgive Disney for buying out Marvel. Comcast I prefer, because it has Universal Animation, which makes phenomenal, breathtaking shows and the idea of Avatar chilling in Universal Studios, along with all the other Nicktoons, of the putrid idea of Avatar hanging alongside the Disney princesses. Avatar is a more mature, lively show that fits under the umbrella of Nick. Disney, on the other hand, is cliched to the max and more childish. I don't know what oyu guys are talking about when you say that Nick's other stuff is childish, because OddParents and Danny Phantom are both extremely intricate shows with breathtaking storylines... oh, and don't even start me on '90s Nick and its spinoffs, such as Rugrats and All Grown Up. Nick's live aciton shows, like Zoey 101, Drake and Josh, are also more mature and plot oriented. Rugrats, All Grown Up, Danny Phantom, and OddParents prove wrong the fallacious assumption that Nick is childish in its animation. Its reality shows are also quite mature.

      Avatar is perfectly fine where it is under the Nick family.

      By no means was Avatar ever specifically made to be a familyshow. Don't get me wrong, it could be a great show to watch with fmaily, and it personally was for me, but it is by no means intended or targeted toward fmailies as an audience.

      So, I disagree with all of this Disney idolatry and wanting Disney to purchase Avatar, which is just a putrid thought.

      Uh, I hate to brust your bubble but, it is. Yes, it's mature, it really is but it's still family oriented.

      I think this needs to be clear to you

      Family show =/= Kiddie show

      It's a misconception to the highest degree. A family show is a show intended for audiences of all ages, meaning anyone, kids, teens, adults-- anyone can watch. Kiddie shows are shows made for children, like Dora the Explorer, Barney the Dinosaur or Mickey Mouses' Clubhouse.

      And even then, Look at Marvel, look at it, it is still the same company it was before the buyout in 2009. They haven't began pandering to the "Disney" cliches, there's no Disney-Esque Princesses in the Marvel Universe, they're fine. The Marvel Cinematic Universe didn't all of a sudden become Pirates of Caribbeans with superheroes. Hell, look at The Avengers: Earth's Mightest Heroes. It was a completely mature, grown up, risk taking, awesome, action packed show that respected it's source materia.

      Honestly, no one, except that one guy a few messages back, was saying that Danny Phantom or Jimmy Neutron were kiddie shows.

      And even then, it's not like Disney films or shows never dealt with mature themes, heck, the entire Toy Story trilogy is ultimately a story about fear of abandonment and the inevitable.

      Gargoyles has many mature themes running through it, so much so, that I can't even count them all.

      Simba's father is killed and we see the body, the villain of Tarzan is hanged, Ursla is stabbed in the chest and the Shadow Man was dragged to hell.

      I haven't seen any Universal Animation films, except for Land Before Time, which was good.

      Disney has made mature programming before, it's not like they're strickly a family friendly company, heck, check out the films under their lable Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures or Miramax, you'll be quiet surprised at what you'd fine.

      I'm sorry if this looked like a rant but Disney isn't just a family friendly company, just like Avatar.


      Oh, my bubble is not burst, and I can guarantee that. I never said that kiddie shows had to mean family shows. Either way, though, Avatar was never targeted toward families as its primary audience. Don't get me wrong, it's a great show obviously, but it's not a harbinger of familial emotions and the like.For you information, I'm completley aware of what a kiddie show is. Avatar, though, is not a family targeted show. Yes, it goes well to watch with family, but it's not a family targeted show. Here's what irks me, though: Nickelodeon has pulled off great family shows, like Drake and Josh, and maintained their quality over the time. The thing about "Avatar" is that it's an action show, targeted more for younger individuals than anything else. It has a more element, yes, but it's not a primarily family show.

      No, it's not. Marvel Comics and movies have gone down hell, and the animation was always terrible even before Disney bought it out. Sorry, but that show is an atrocious example. Don't even get me started on the Xmen and Spiderman series. They're all terrible. And no, the Marvel shows do terrible imitations of the comics. The shows have such choppy animation that it's not even funny. There are some good Marvel movies, yes, but that's mainly because they're worked on alongside other companies than Marvel, which is now completely Disney territory. Example: The Avengers was overly hyped and not nearly as good as everyone had said it was. However, the XMen movies have retained their quality throughout the years, and the original origin movies for the Avengers, such as Captain America: The First Avenger, Thor, Ironman, and Ironman 2... those were all actaully really good movies. But no, don't kid yourself. Marvel comics have gone down a terirble slope, and Marvel Animation was always rather below satisfactory.

      Okay, but here's the thing: Avatar is perfectly fine on Nickelodeon. It blends perfectly well with Nickelodeon and its television programming. Aang is just much more fitting alongside Danny Phantom, Timmy Turner, Jimmey Neutron, and all the classic Nicktoons than he is in Dsiney. I don't know why people actually want Disney to purchase Avatar. Avatar is much better off without Disney.

      I agree there, but once again, Disney buying Avatar would be completley unnecessary and a terrible cahnge for tha Avatarverse. Marvel Animation, comics, and even the movies to a degree have gotten worse ever since.

      Gargoyles wasn't exactly an exemplary show and, for years, Nickelodeon still has been ranking higher than Disney in terms of ratings. Once again, though, Avatar has been perfect by Nickelodeon Animation Studios, and there is literally no good reason to sell it off to Disney. There's no need to fix what's not broken.

      It also ahs Back To The Future and The Lorax and Descpiable Me; Universal Animation is great.

      I know all those subsidiaries of Disney, but once again, none of them have ever really appealed to me. And even then, there is no good reason for Avatar, which is the main topic here, to be sold off to Disney. Avatar's been a part of the Nickelodeon company for years now. And, once again, Nickelodeon has perfected many mature, family shows that made classic hits. Once again, my entire point is that there is no good reason for Disney to buy out Avatar.

      I know perfectly fine what a kiddie show is.

      Lol don't worry about rants, because I make them all the time. But once again, there is no good reason to remove Avatar from Nickelodeon. Avatar would be absolutely terrible under the umbrella of Disney. Marvel seriously has gone down the drains ever since Disney acquired rights to it, and it's very appauling. Once again, Avatar and frankly all Nicktoons fit much better into one of Comcast's Universal Animation companies, because they make similar style animations.

      Either way, my point is that saying that Avatar is family targeted show [which it's not even close to], and that that's why it's perfect for Disney, becuase it's all "one big family thing", its aboslutely ridiculous, becuase Nickelodeon has, for years, been making outstanding family shows that are far better than any shown on Disney. So, Avatar's just fine where it is, thank you very much. It has no good reason to be bought out by Disney, whatsoever.

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    • Tarrlockultimatewaterbender- i disagree with you on marvel, especially your comment about the x men films. i will admit the comics have gone down in quality but every now and again a very good story is released like the current original sin (IMO). X men 1, 2, first class and DOFP where very good but last stand, origin wolverine where terrible and full of inconsistancies and the films are nothing like the comcis (sometimes this is good but sometimes not). and the wolverine was just average.

      but regarding disney potencially owning Avatar i feel as if everything would be ok as long as Bryke as co where in charge (but disney might try and force some plot points knowing them)

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    • Are you kidding me on the Last Stand? Last Stand was perfect! I can see how the Wolverine one didn't appeal to you, though it did to me. As you said, the most recent one kicked ass. But no, Last Stand was not bad or inconsistent in any sense of the word. Hell, Last Stand was better than its comic counterparts, and so were First Calss and Days of Future Past. I do agree, though, on the origin stories for The Wolverine potentially being better. But I really don't agree that the XMen movies lacked in quality, becuase they've kicked ass so far. I'm going to maintain that.

      No, I will not be okay with Disney owning Avatar, because Disney has enough of its own material already, and there's really no point- Nickelodeon Animation Studios has done a marvelous job with Avatar, and I really don't see the point or purpose in Disney trying to acquire control of it.

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    • I actually don't have ANY problems with the X-Men movies! They all got progressly better with each movie, especially the  two Wolverine-based movies!

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    • TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:

      No, I will not be okay with Disney owning Avatar, because Disney has enough of its own material already, and there's really no point- Nickelodeon Animation Studios has done a marvelous job with Avatar, and I really don't see the point or purpose in Disney trying to acquire control of it.

      I totally agree on that. Disney would never achieve the things that Nickelodeon has. And probably the series would have changed greatly. And I'm talking about a bad change.

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    • ShikonChireru wrote: I actually don't have ANY problems with the X-Men movies! They all got progressly better with each movie, especially the  two Wolverine-based movies!

      Totally agree on that too. :D

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    • Tarrlock- dont get me wrong i enjoyed most of the films but the last stand was underwhelming and despite a few good moments overall disapointing and origins wolverine was a huge mess. i hate origins wolverine for messing up deadpool. and there before (and even after) DOFP there are a lot of contiuenty issues in the X men franchise most of which where caused by the last stand, origins wolverine and first class.

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    • TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      AvatarKatar wrote:
      TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      AvatarKatar wrote:
      TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      I don't care how much people love Disney, I will throw up all over Disney and the Avatar creators if such an ignominous move is ever to take palce. I'm sorry, but Avatar is so grounded to Nickelodeon. It's not right, imo. It's like trying to have Viacom buy out Mickey Mouse -__-
      You seemed to be ok with the notion of Comcast buying out Avatar.

      Honestly, Disney seems to be a more diserable choice. If a company, say Nintendo, was ever bought out, I'd rather it be Disney than a company like Sony or Comcast (Even though, really, Sony isn't in the position to buy anything.)

      It's mostly because Nintendo, like Avatar, thinks of family first. Avatar is a family show, Nintendo is a family company, Disney is a family company, it's just one big family thing.

      Please stop. No, the family thing is no excuse. If anything, then Disney's the kiddish one here. I will still never forgive Disney for buying out Marvel. Comcast I prefer, because it has Universal Animation, which makes phenomenal, breathtaking shows and the idea of Avatar chilling in Universal Studios, along with all the other Nicktoons, of the putrid idea of Avatar hanging alongside the Disney princesses. Avatar is a more mature, lively show that fits under the umbrella of Nick. Disney, on the other hand, is cliched to the max and more childish. I don't know what oyu guys are talking about when you say that Nick's other stuff is childish, because OddParents and Danny Phantom are both extremely intricate shows with breathtaking storylines... oh, and don't even start me on '90s Nick and its spinoffs, such as Rugrats and All Grown Up. Nick's live aciton shows, like Zoey 101, Drake and Josh, are also more mature and plot oriented. Rugrats, All Grown Up, Danny Phantom, and OddParents prove wrong the fallacious assumption that Nick is childish in its animation. Its reality shows are also quite mature.

      Avatar is perfectly fine where it is under the Nick family.

      By no means was Avatar ever specifically made to be a familyshow. Don't get me wrong, it could be a great show to watch with fmaily, and it personally was for me, but it is by no means intended or targeted toward fmailies as an audience.

      So, I disagree with all of this Disney idolatry and wanting Disney to purchase Avatar, which is just a putrid thought.

      Uh, I hate to brust your bubble but, it is. Yes, it's mature, it really is but it's still family oriented.

      I think this needs to be clear to you

      Family show =/= Kiddie show

      It's a misconception to the highest degree. A family show is a show intended for audiences of all ages, meaning anyone, kids, teens, adults-- anyone can watch. Kiddie shows are shows made for children, like Dora the Explorer, Barney the Dinosaur or Mickey Mouses' Clubhouse.

      And even then, Look at Marvel, look at it, it is still the same company it was before the buyout in 2009. They haven't began pandering to the "Disney" cliches, there's no Disney-Esque Princesses in the Marvel Universe, they're fine. The Marvel Cinematic Universe didn't all of a sudden become Pirates of Caribbeans with superheroes. Hell, look at The Avengers: Earth's Mightest Heroes. It was a completely mature, grown up, risk taking, awesome, action packed show that respected it's source materia.

      Honestly, no one, except that one guy a few messages back, was saying that Danny Phantom or Jimmy Neutron were kiddie shows.

      And even then, it's not like Disney films or shows never dealt with mature themes, heck, the entire Toy Story trilogy is ultimately a story about fear of abandonment and the inevitable.

      Gargoyles has many mature themes running through it, so much so, that I can't even count them all.

      Simba's father is killed and we see the body, the villain of Tarzan is hanged, Ursla is stabbed in the chest and the Shadow Man was dragged to hell.

      I haven't seen any Universal Animation films, except for Land Before Time, which was good.

      Disney has made mature programming before, it's not like they're strickly a family friendly company, heck, check out the films under their lable Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures or Miramax, you'll be quiet surprised at what you'd fine.

      I'm sorry if this looked like a rant but Disney isn't just a family friendly company, just like Avatar.


      Oh, my bubble is not burst, and I can guarantee that. I never said that kiddie shows had to mean family shows. Either way, though, Avatar was never targeted toward families as its primary audience. Don't get me wrong, it's a great show obviously, but it's not a harbinger of familial emotions and the like.For you information, I'm completley aware of what a kiddie show is. Avatar, though, is not a family targeted show. Yes, it goes well to watch with family, but it's not a family targeted show. Here's what irks me, though: Nickelodeon has pulled off great family shows, like Drake and Josh, and maintained their quality over the time. The thing about "Avatar" is that it's an action show, targeted more for younger individuals than anything else. It has a more element, yes, but it's not a primarily family show.

      No, it's not. Marvel Comics and movies have gone down hell, and the animation was always terrible even before Disney bought it out. Sorry, but that show is an atrocious example. Don't even get me started on the Xmen and Spiderman series. They're all terrible. And no, the Marvel shows do terrible imitations of the comics. The shows have such choppy animation that it's not even funny. There are some good Marvel movies, yes, but that's mainly because they're worked on alongside other companies than Marvel, which is now completely Disney territory. Example: The Avengers was overly hyped and not nearly as good as everyone had said it was. However, the XMen movies have retained their quality throughout the years, and the original origin movies for the Avengers, such as Captain America: The First Avenger, Thor, Ironman, and Ironman 2... those were all actaully really good movies. But no, don't kid yourself. Marvel comics have gone down a terirble slope, and Marvel Animation was always rather below satisfactory.

      Okay, but here's the thing: Avatar is perfectly fine on Nickelodeon. It blends perfectly well with Nickelodeon and its television programming. Aang is just much more fitting alongside Danny Phantom, Timmy Turner, Jimmey Neutron, and all the classic Nicktoons than he is in Dsiney. I don't know why people actually want Disney to purchase Avatar. Avatar is much better off without Disney.

      I agree there, but once again, Disney buying Avatar would be completley unnecessary and a terrible cahnge for tha Avatarverse. Marvel Animation, comics, and even the movies to a degree have gotten worse ever since.

      Gargoyles wasn't exactly an exemplary show and, for years, Nickelodeon still has been ranking higher than Disney in terms of ratings. Once again, though, Avatar has been perfect by Nickelodeon Animation Studios, and there is literally no good reason to sell it off to Disney. There's no need to fix what's not broken.

      It also ahs Back To The Future and The Lorax and Descpiable Me; Universal Animation is great.

      I know all those subsidiaries of Disney, but once again, none of them have ever really appealed to me. And even then, there is no good reason for Avatar, which is the main topic here, to be sold off to Disney. Avatar's been a part of the Nickelodeon company for years now. And, once again, Nickelodeon has perfected many mature, family shows that made classic hits. Once again, my entire point is that there is no good reason for Disney to buy out Avatar.

      I know perfectly fine what a kiddie show is.

      Lol don't worry about rants, because I make them all the time. But once again, there is no good reason to remove Avatar from Nickelodeon. Avatar would be absolutely terrible under the umbrella of Disney. Marvel seriously has gone down the drains ever since Disney acquired rights to it, and it's very appauling. Once again, Avatar and frankly all Nicktoons fit much better into one of Comcast's Universal Animation companies, because they make similar style animations.

      Either way, my point is that saying that Avatar is family targeted show [which it's not even close to], and that that's why it's perfect for Disney, becuase it's all "one big family thing", its aboslutely ridiculous, becuase Nickelodeon has, for years, been making outstanding family shows that are far better than any shown on Disney. So, Avatar's just fine where it is, thank you very much. It has no good reason to be bought out by Disney, whatsoever.

      I'm going to do this in points.

      • I don't get what you're trying to say about Avatar being a family show or not, at one instance you're saying it isn't but then you're saying it's a good family oriented show? Come on, man, it's obviously a family show, also just because it IS a family show doesn't mean it can't take up other genres. It's an action-adventure family show.
      • Oh man, I disagree with you on Marvel so much, this is opinion based but really, the Marvel movies have been awesome, especially the Avengers. It's not Citizen Kane but for a movie with so much plot and characters, it's a miracle of film making that it's as good as it is. It is awesome. And even then, Earth's Mightest Heroes was well recieved too by critics, Avengers Assembled is mixed and Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 have split it's fan base but no one on the Marvel community ever dare say that Captain America: The Winter Soldier wasn't awesome!
      • About all this talk about animation, I should remind everyone. This is Disney. They reveloutionized the animation industry. Heck, they even predate anime! And their animation has gotten better and better throughout the years and have tried different styles, including oriental (Mulan). Yes, Universal made cartoons back then, fantastic ones, but the current ones... They're not very good, at least in my opinion. I think Lorax was horrible adaption of the book. The Back to the Future cartoon was an 80s cartoon so I won't comment there. Despicable Me is alright as comedy though. Thing is, Universal Animation didn't make Lorax or Despicable Me films, Illumination Entertainment did, Universal Animation Studios hasn't been used for a movie since The Little Engine that Could.
      • Maybe there isn't a good reason, but the topic is hypotherical, how would you feel about a Disney funded/animated Avatar movie or how would you feel with Avatar getting more spot light than it has before. Disney has great animation, they're one of the forefathers of it, so I'm sure they could make an Avatar movie with great animation.

      Again, sorry for the ranting but I wanted to pretty much say this.... hehe..

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    • FYI, in case anyone forgot...Miyazaki? He's an anime style artist, he's wit Disney and he's highly successful...'Nough said!

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    • nickelodeon would never be stupid enough to sell their biggest fan base without Avatar all they have left is .............. SPONGEBOB and they may as well go out of business if they sell the best thing that ever happened to them.

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    • Avatar thoyrn wrote:
      nickelodeon would never be stupid enough to sell their biggest fan base without Avatar all they have left is .............. SPONGEBOB and they may as well go out of business if they sell the best thing that ever happened to them.

      I kinda of just got mixed feeling for this whole topic in general...I honestly don't know who the series would go to if Nick complete dummies and sell it. I don't think it matters one way or another(even though LOK is the only show I watch on Nick lol)

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    • Do you wanna go penguin sledding, it doesn't have to be by the spooky ship.

      If they bought the Avatar franchise, we could have the following: Star Wars/Avatar crossover. Maybe an Avengers crossover? Once upon an Avatar time?

      This is of course not going to happen.

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    • trust me when I say that Avatar is not fairytale type.

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    • Dragons, mythical creatures, bending elements. Totally not fantasy....

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    • fantasy is employed a LOT of series...its all about how its portrayed. Some are innocent kids material...others can get graphic. Example...vampires! How many portrayals of vampire movies can you think of? There is a HUGE friggin range of vamp movies out there, some of kids, some for lovey-dovey crap and then there is good'ol fashion blood/gore stories that are sterotypical of vampires! 

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    • I meant FAIRYTALES NOT FANTASY!

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    • Oh...then no I don't see Avatar becoming fairytale-ish XD

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    • that's what I was trying to say.

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    • TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      Thinklogic wrote:
      Sheesh, when my parents asked me about my media preferences they couldnt believe Avatar was made by Nickelodeon. They believed Nickelodean simply made childish stuff like Spongebob, fairly odd, Jimmy Neut, and Dora. Then suddenly in Avatar people are dying everywhere, wars, corruption, fraud... American Anime

      With Disney, they havent really made any plots or enviroments similar to Avatar so Id doubt them, but if they were to replicate an existing storyline Id let them.

      For example, Id let them make a movie of "The Search" to track Zukos mom, under the same Avatar animation and voices

      I disagree with you so much. Disney is nothing near to Avatar in terms of its plot and other elements [pun inteded]. OddParents and Danny Phantom are more than just childish shows if you watch them closely. In some aspects, they're a lot like Avatar. Same for Jimmy Neutron. You seriously underestimate Nickelodeon's ability to go hardcore with its animation. This is a no brainer. Disney is terrible for Avatar.

      Agreed about most of those shows not being childish. Until about 2007, even Sponebob wasn't childish. Jimmy Neutron was a greaet series. Fairly Oddparents is still good, but it tends to dissapear for like a year, than come back with a new character in a special. Danny Phantom was one of the greatest Nicktoons ever, on par with Avatar, Invader Zim, Jimmy Neutron, Catdog, Ren & Stimpy, and Doug.
      Hell, even Dora can be somewhat enjoyable for any one older than 6 (although that whole talking to you when you don't answer her questions gets annoying)

      To quote my ten year old self's convo with Dora:

      "Where could it be? Do you think it's in the Cave"

      "Up your butt and around the corner"

      "That's right! Now we have to go in there and get it"

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    • Suzon99 wrote:
      Hell, even Dora can be somewhat enjoyable for any one older than 6 (although that whole talking to you when you don't answer her questions gets annoying)

      To quote my ten year old self's convo with Dora:

      "Where could it be? Do you think it's in the Cave"

      "Up your butt and around the corner"

      "That's right! Now we have to go in there and get it"

      My usual convo with her is...

      "Which was your favorite part?"

      "When everybody died and you were laughing your ass off"

      "I liked that part too!"

      XD LMAO

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    • Ah...the power of imagination...makes Dora as graphic as South Park with the right mind set XD

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    • Some replies have been removed from this thread. It's one thing to make a few jokes, but certain matters are definitely not ones to be laughed at. Try to avoid such cracks in the future.

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    • My bad! XD

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    • PSUAvatar14 wrote:
      Some replies have been removed from this thread. It's one thing to make a few jokes, but certain matters are definitely not ones to be laughed at. Try to avoid such cracks in the future.

      Oh..ehhhh sorry PSU. Didn't meant to be mean. :)

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    • I honesttly find the concept of this thread derailed. Seriously if Disney bought Avatar it would be put on XD and forgotten. There's the answer to the thread...

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    • I hope it NEVER EVER happens cuz I hate disney....My life of Avatar wou;d be ruined if it happened

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    • Why do you hate Disney. Seriously don't understand how people hate Disney. It is a cartoon company... Seriously they donate money to charity and actually stream there shows on there site...  Don't get me wrrong, a majority of the program on the channel is mostly aweful, but the company isn't "evil".

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    • well its a long story i didn't meant to hate it but well its not evil

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    • Got mugged by Mickey Mouse at Disney World?  :P Is that a bad joke PSU?

      Honestly Disney would have no incentive to buy Avatar. Great show but as far as profit is concerned, there really is no merch. profit to be made out of Avatar. Few people would buy a Korra doll, and they wouldn't be able to make too many references to the old show do to stupid copyright laws.

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    • Well the thing is one of its movies caused some personal problem thats all.

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    • Let me guess: Bambi's mom... Wait no, you got Let it Go stuck in your head. Or maybe a scene from Dumbo influenced you?

      In all seriousness this thread is pretty much over.

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    • No its not that movie

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    • Well I don't want to talk bout its not a disturbing thing in Disney or a weird thing just caused something....

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    • Might as well tell me the movie... After all this thread is based on a weird opinion that Disney likes to buy franchises... Such as Marvel and Star Wars...

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    • Kuzonkid7 wrote:
      I honesttly find the concept of this thread derailed. Seriously if Disney bought Avatar it would be put on XD and forgotten. There's the answer to the thread...

      The thread's derailment was mostly caused be varing opinions on Disney itself. 

      While Disney has made several mistakes in the past and let many shows go, regradless of reception. One thing's for sure, if Avatar was bought by Disney, and was successful critically and financially, then Disney would hold on to Avatar forever, just like what they're doing with Marvel, Star Wars and Pixar.

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    • Kuzonkid7 wrote:
      Got mugged by Mickey Mouse at Disney World?  :P Is that a bad joke PSU?

      Honestly Disney would have no incentive to buy Avatar. Great show but as far as profit is concerned, there really is no merch. profit to be made out of Avatar. Few people would buy a Korra doll, and they wouldn't be able to make too many references to the old show do to stupid copyright laws.

      Well, if they bought Avatar, as in the entire franchise, they could really do anything they wanted with it, including referencing the old show because, well, they would own the old show too.

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    • I still want to hear wegee's reason for not liking Disney... Well Marvel and SW are new so I can't judge them, but Disney and Pixar did butt heads in the 2000's for a couple months do to contract issues...

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    • Well one of Disneys movies caused a problem but yet,the problem had nothnig with the disnet movie thats all I am saying for now but its not a big deal now.

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    • I for one was scared to death of the dumbo scene. Yeah this thread is almost spiderman derailed bad...

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    • Ok but that has nothing to do with my problem lets just stop now.

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    • so tempted to make a frozen joke it is not even funny... Yeah I am defollowing this thread now...

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    • Kuzonkid7 wrote:
      I for one was scared to death of the dumbo scene. Yeah this thread is almost spiderman derailed bad...

      I didn't get the reference, still don't :P

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    • I agree, I also think this thread has been played out in its entirety. That'll be enough.

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