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  • The owl spirit is clearly against using knowledge for war yet supports Unalaq with his determination to start chaos and destruction. Why? Doesnt chaos and destruction cause war?

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    • The owl says Unalaq is a friend to spirits so that seems to be enough.

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    • He promised Wan Shi Tong the contents of the entire north pole library to his collection for his assistance.

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    • haha yeah, something like that. seriously though, that bird-brain doesn't make any sense:

      1. other spirits turned dark in the presence of unalaq's negative attitude, WST didn't.

      2. he was helping this dude become a dark avatar and bring chaos and destruction on everything. wouldn't everything include his dear library?

      3. he wanted to help bring about an era of chaos and destruction

      4. did i mention he was helping someone bring about 10,000 years of darkness?

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    • Intelligence4 wrote:
      haha yeah, something like that. seriously though, that bird-brain doesn't make any sense:

      1. other spirits turned dark in the presence of unalaq's negative attitude, WST didn't.

      2. he was helping this dude become a dark avatar and bring chaos and destruction on everything. wouldn't everything include his dear library?

      3. he wanted to help bring about an era of chaos and destruction

      4. did i mention he was helping someone bring about 10,000 years of darkness?

      Some spirits are immune to dark infulence such as Iroh, his guests turned dark but not Iroh himself from Korras negativity

      My primary question is, WST was greatly against war tactics like how he got mad at team Avatar, yet supports Unalaq whos trying to destroy everything

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    • Well, the only implication of Vaatu's reign was the destruction of humans. Spirits seemed to be more of a tool for Vaatu to use than anything so maybe he would have just ran amok around the physical realm and ignored the spirit realm/library? Trying to determine what these villains in book 2 are trying to achieve isn't exactly straight forward.

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    • iroh technically wasn't a spirit - at least not in the spirit vs. human definition.

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    • Simple, Wan Shi Tong dislikes thr Avatar and by extension, Raava. So when a guy comes along with the hopes of setting the antithesis of what he dislikes free, he immediately befriends them. A match made in heaven...or rather the spirit world.

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    • If we ever see Wan Shi Tong again, I'd really like for someone to really wipe the floor with him in his own territory. Wan Shi Tong maybe the spirit of knowledge, but he's certainly not a wise spirit, I think that would a great theme to explore, or just plain throw it in his face. Think how great would it be for someone to one-up him just with pure logic and arguments. I think Iroh could do it, but it would be interesting to see that coming from another source. Maybe Jinora, since she already has that wise beyond her years thing going on, and they already have a somewhat established relationship.

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    • I would rather see a "Sokka-style" defeat towards Wan Shi TongĀ ;)

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    • Dragonboy6491 wrote: I would rather see a "Sokka-style" defeat towards Wan Shi TongĀ ;)

      But the thing is, we already saw that. Having Wan Shi Tong be beaten in his own intellectual field would be a very interesting way for him to get a BSoD, in my opinion. Not something necessarily Wan Shi Tong related, but I think that a recurring spirit character would add a lot of depth to the show. Humans and spirits are obviously very different, and having a constant spirit perspective can make way to a lot of drama.

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    • Omnibender wrote:
      If we ever see Wan Shi Tong again, I'd really like for someone to really wipe the floor with him in his own territory. Wan Shi Tong maybe the spirit of knowledge, but he's certainly not a wise spirit, I think that would a great theme to explore, or just plain throw it in his face. Think how great would it be for someone to one-up him just with pure logic and arguments. I think Iroh could do it, but it would be interesting to see that coming from another source. Maybe Jinora, since she already has that wise beyond her years thing going on, and they already have a somewhat established relationship.

      He did give Jinora some access to the library for an exchange of information.

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    • Kubernes wrote:

      Omnibender wrote:
      If we ever see Wan Shi Tong again, I'd really like for someone to really wipe the floor with him in his own territory. Wan Shi Tong maybe the spirit of knowledge, but he's certainly not a wise spirit, I think that would a great theme to explore, or just plain throw it in his face. Think how great would it be for someone to one-up him just with pure logic and arguments. I think Iroh could do it, but it would be interesting to see that coming from another source. Maybe Jinora, since she already has that wise beyond her years thing going on, and they already have a somewhat established relationship.

      He did give Jinora some access to the library for an exchange of information.

      But not because she gave him info on the radio. He only allowed her to consult after she said she was Aang's granddaughter and that she came to the Spirit World with Korra. He let her stay so he could go fetch Unalaq.

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    • Can he even leave the library? Seems more likely he would send one of the foxes.

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    • Kubernes wrote: Can he even leave the library? Seems more likely he would send one of the foxes.

      Why wouldn't he be able to leave? He may not enjoy the human world, but the library is in the Spirit World now. We don't know how far away Unalaq was from the library, flight would be the fastest way to reach him. Besides, we've never seen the foxes speaking, and I don't see anyone in the library capable of writing something that could be attached to them.

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    • There has to be some sort of communication (verbal or non-verbal) between them. After all, they are the ones who bring back knowledge for the owl. If Unalaq has been there before then he would certainly know that the foxes are his servants. If one showed up and beckoned him, he would probally follow.

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    • But he said Wan Shin Tong told him he had a visitor. That implies he told it himself, and when we see Wan Shi Tong leave Jinora, he took off flying. I think it's just a simple case of Occam's Razor here.

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    • RaidenRadio wrote: He promised Wan Shi Tong the contents of the entire north pole library to his collection for his assistance.

      Is that something that was actually confirmed, or are you just quipping?

      Otherwise, Unalaq implicated that he wanted to usher in an age of Spiritual domination of the Earth. Wan Shi Tong may not like war, but he also proved to not understand the nuance of a war for defense versus a war for conquest, so it is possible that he might not have even realized that Unalaq was going to war to accomplish this. Or he might not count a Spirit conflict as "war."

      We don't know why he hated war in the first place. It may have been as simple as that he felt it was an insult to use his library as a tool for personal glory. The fact that Vaatu was technically the one in charge also may have helped. I don't think that the Dark Spirits bother him much. It seems weird to us, but it's normal for Spirits to turn dark.

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    • It was just a fan theory.

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    • Wan shi tong believe Unalaq is a true friend of the Spirits

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    • Does Wan shi tong want darkness and chaos in the physical world and spirit world

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    • I blame Sokka.

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    • For a being who knows 10,000 things, there are a lot of things that Wan Shi Tong doesn't know. For example, when a group of kids are lying to his face about not wanting to use his knowledge to win a war. Or that radios are not devices with tiny people in them. If kids can fool him so easily, a master of deception like Unalaq should have no trouble doing so.

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    • Avatar Steve wrote: For a being who knows 10,000 things, there are a lot of things that Wan Shi Tong doesn't know. For example, when a group of kids are lying to his face about not wanting to use his knowledge to win a war. Or that radios are not devices with tiny people in them. If kids can fool him so easily, a master of deception like Unalaq should have no trouble doing so.

      Actually, he did show up at the end of the episode & say that he knew they were up to something, because they were terrible liars.

      Also, as I've said before, he knows 10,000 things, but reason is not 1 of them.

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    • I note that Sokka actually shouted out his intentions loud and clear before Wan Shi Tong attacked... Quite possibly Unalaq started out okay, maybe even helped out spirits a bit. Aside from fusing with Vaatu and being evil and all, he must have had some measure of spirituality in order for Wan Shi Tong to like him. Perhaps it was as simple as wanting to talk to him; everybody comes for the library, but nobody seems to come for the spirit. It's possible, folks, that Wan Shi Tong was flattered into trusting Unalaq, sans knowledge of the Dark Avatar plan. Of course, there are all the Dark Spirits floating about, but hey, nobody's perfect, right?

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