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  • So i'm really pretty stumped about Raava finally merging with Wan. What caused them to become one without Raava killing him? All I can gather is that when he touched the glowing arc that formed between the two portals, he suddenly was merged? But how?

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    • There is no definite explanation for that as it was never truly explained, but the most likely explanation is that since the Harmonic Convergence amplifies spiritual energy, it enables a spirit to permanently bond with a host if they come into direct contact with the energy comping off the joined spirit portals. Due to their permanent bond, they become one being sort of speak and as such, the body of the host will no long fight and reject the intruding spirit, negating the harmful effects that come with hosting a spirit.

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    • ooOooohh!!!! Thank you for that explanation! I hate feeling out of the loop, especially with something as important as finally merging and becoming "one" with Raava. So in this instance, if Vaatu had touched the spiritual energy at the same time as Raava and Wan, would that have allowed him to ALSO be connected to Wan? What if BOTH of them were to inhabit a host body? Is that even a possibility?

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    • we have no idea on that one. i've wondered the same thing myself.

      we do however know that when korra was attacked, she was infected by the dark spirit, so i'm guessing that no, vaatu and raava couldn't share an avatar.

      however, if vaatu wasn't inside of wan at the time, then he for sure wouldn't be able to be fused with him: the show made it pretty clear that the spirit has to be inside of the human in order for them to fuse.

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    • Those are purely hypothetical questions which each could answer for themselves as no one knows for sure. The only thing that I can offer in that situation is the fact that in "Light in the Dark", Raava and Korra were not merged in one being before touching the spirit energy, implying that a spirit and its host merely need to be in physical contact upon touching the energy in order to permanently merge. However, we also know that Vaatu also held on to Wan/Raava when the latter touched the spirit portal. However, Vaatu released him before the spiritual energy completely engulfed one. So one can either interpret that as being that a spirit can only permanently bond with one person, or it could be interpreted as leaving a possibility open for bonding with multiple spirits if Vaatu would not have released Wan prematurely. Take it as you want, it is speculation either way.

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    • Intelligence4 wrote: however, if vaatu wasn't inside of wan at the time, then he for sure wouldn't be able to be fused with him: the show made it pretty clear that the spirit has to be inside of the human in order for them to fuse.

      Korra and Raava at the end of "Light in the Dark" proved otherwise. Raava merely brought Korra up, they were not bonded at the time that Korra touched the portal, so "being inside a human" does not seem to be the condition to be able to merge with one another.

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    • Another thing I was wondering about (and if I need to create a new post/thread for this, just let me know) is how they came up with the idea to have the new Avatar merge with the birth of a random person upon the death of the current avatar. If a bender doesn't actually realize their potential or their "element" until they're at least a few years old, then how does the order work? (the order of choosing an avatar based on their element).

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    • good point, although since we didn't actually see anything other than korra's hand touching the portals, we can't really draw a conclusion from it. and either way, the spirit has to go inside the human at some point.

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    • We see Korra's hand gently touching the energy. If Raava would've merged with her, she would've glowed -as Wan always did at the beginning (it subsided, but initially he glowed). As such, we can conclude that they did not merge and thus physical contact seems to be enough.

      As for the "how does the reincarnation circle works?": no one really knows how the choosing is done as that was never explained in any canonical source. We know it has something to do with reincarnation -obviously- but it doesn't follow traditional incarnation as then there would have to be a nine month gap between the death of the old Avatar and the birth of the new one. There are perhaps theories, but they're not more than that, theories.

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    • fair enough. but the whole point of touching the portals is to make a permanent merger, regardless if the spirit was actually in the human before or after.

      even in the traditional sense, reincarnation doesn't have to wait for 9 months. as far as knowing which kid will be a bender to reincarnate as:

      1.) we know bending abilities are "stored" on the soul.

      2.) we know that bending is a talent

      3.) roku told aang that he knew he could master the elements b/c he had done it before.

      4.) therefore, if bending is stored on the soul, the kid will be a bender no matter what, b/c they are the avatar, aka wan's reincarnation. and since the avatar has mastered the elements before, developing that talent isn't really much of an issue.

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    • choosing a new body based on the fact of the new native element isn't really an issue either, as at least that seems to be genetic: you're not gonna randomly have a firebender kid born to waterbending parents. if you did, then it seems the parents would have some marital issues to work out.

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    • We've been over this before, not all your "facts" are actually fact, so please stop portraying them as such as it gives a biased view to people who come to this wiki to get objective answers. At least do everyone the courtesy to making clear that your post are opinions and not complete factual representations.

      It was stated by the creators that bending was a combination of genetics and spirituality. That's a fact. All the rest is not.

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    • i didn't do any of that this time, lostris.

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    • 1 is not a fact. 4 is not entirely a fact. 2 is true, but rather irrelevant to answer how bending abilities pass on as "drawing" is also a talent, though does not have to be hereditary. 3 is also true, but again does not have anything to do with choosing a new Avatar as Roku's quote was in direct relation to an already chosen Avatar.

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    • 1 is a fact: if it wasn't, then the avatar wouldn't be possible. regardless if it's just raava choosing a new host or actually wan reincarnating, bending has to be stored on someone's soul for the avatar to have all four elements.

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    • We don't know nearly enough of bending specifics to know how bending passes on. For all we know, it is a special gene and not the soul that determines the next Avatar or a regular bender. You don't know. I don't know. So making a claim that it /has/ to be the soul is presenting your opinion as a fact when that has not been proven.

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