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Legend of Korra Book 3 - Change (Spoilers)

  • Book 3 will feature the new change in the world, following Korra's fight with Vaatu and Unalaq in book 2 and its consequences. What do you think ?

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      Book 3 has confirmed to be called Change.

      "The title of Book 3 is going to be called ‘Change,’” DiMartino said. “It’s all about Korra dealing with the change of the world in this point in time. At the end of Book 2 she says it’s a new era. And it really is and we’re going to show how Harmonic Convergence and her battle with Unalaq and Vaatu kind of shifted the world a bit.”

      DiMartino also said “We don’t have an airdate yet. We’re already working on the first few episodes of post-production for Book 3. So that’s all going very well.”

      And source

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    • Yayy more spirits! i think book 3 wil also mean more characte development for korra. Plus they might show Koh and other spirits who are not necessarly dark but very different from humans. Same problems will start during Wans time and Korra will help mantain balance with the spirits and humans living side by side like how the air nomads lived with the spirits

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    • I hate this direction of avatar. screw the spirits. korra needs to close the portal and get back to saving the world. book 2 story was great until she decided to leave the portals open. think about this. the whole point of book 2 was to close the portals. we dont need anymore bullshit in the air. the same problems will occur again. and now ur gonna have so many half-human half-spirit faces walking around cuz when a spirit enters a human for a while he gets retarded  --Beginning Part 1 & 2 --

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    • Well someone is a little overly dramatic.

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    • There could be a change and everything goes terribly wrong. All you need is a scene with a wiped out village to brutally affect Korra's stability and ability to decide anything.

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    • they wouldnt leave the portals open in book 2's ending to end up closing it in book 3. then all of book 2's finale would be useless

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    • yeah but spirts and humans can live peacefully together. Remember in begginnings the air nomads lived peacefully with spirits before vaatu came. Well right now there is not vaatu so it can be done

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    • I'm not yet sure what to think of the end of Book 2. I like how LoK is different from ATLA but leaving the portals open? And why do the spirits and the spirit world look so different than it did in ATLA?

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    • Legendofkorra wrote:
      yeah but spirts and humans can live peacefully together. Remember in begginnings the air nomads lived peacefully with spirits before vaatu came. Well right now there is not vaatu so it can be done

      yea well guess what, there are also no more airbenders.

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    • Kataang Makorra wrote:
      I'm not yet sure what to think of the end of Book 2. I like how LoK is different from ATLA but leaving the portals open? And why do the spirits and the spirit world look so different than it did in ATLA?

      THANK YOU! its a BAD IDEA to leave them open 

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    • Maybe it is, but we'll have to wait to know for sure!

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    • I don't see the issue. But whatever, to each his own. 

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    • TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      Maybe it is, but we'll have to wait to know for sure!

      unfortunately

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    • I agree with AvatarCorin34 that it's not much of an issue. Plus, she's trying to learn frmo her mistakes, so I give Korra kudos.

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    • korra is defying what i wiser avatar had in mind, and korra isnt exactly in a position to start screwing things up. she said it herself that the world got affected, and if we look back we can unfortunately say that the result of the dark avatar was almost 100% Korra's fault. if she had listened to tenzin and her father the southern portal wouldnt even be open by now. i really dont support the portals being open, as they were left closed for a REASON.

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    • But look at what happened the last time that the Avatar sealed the the worlds. It caused disaster... and for 10,000 years. Korra is simply being practical and learning from her past lives' mistakes. For example, although all of his previous lives, who were obviously, at the time, much wiser than him, advised 12 year old Aang to kill Ozai. But Aang did not do it. So, I think that Korra deserves a chance and some credit for making a bold move like that.

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    • first of all, what disaster??? and second, theres a difference. aang hadnt fucked up the world big time and then take a risk of not taking the firelords life away. he was always in the good and when it came to the decision he took a chance. as for korra, she is in no position for any chances because she completely screwed up the trust the world has for her. the civil war was her fault along with the dark avatars existance. korra has messed up too many time to be given any more chances to make bold and wild moves. ITS TOO RISKY 

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    • So, it's her fault that Tonraq had been hiding most of his advice from her, and that the only person with good fighting and spiritual tips for her was Unalaq? It's her fault that, in the beginning, Unalaq's advice always played out for her perfectly? It's her fault that Unalaq was simply good at containing spirits, while Tenzin and Tonraq failed at it miserably, so she wanted to turn to the more powerful and seemingly more experienced mentor? And, in the end, who saved the world during Harmonic Convergence? She did. Wan did fuck up the world when he attacked Raava and let Vaatu loose. So, Korra's doing her best to clean up his mess, but she's obviously not perfectly.

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    • Disaster is a Point of View. Besides, they can be closed at any time if the situation gets too extreme.

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    • Well I personally never agreed with all of Aang's decisions either as anyone can make a bad call but Korra's choices had a much larger immediate impact on the world and if anything goes wrong in the next two books all fingers are going to be pointed at her. Than again there are a lot of scenarios in Book Two in which things could have turned out better for everyone.

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    • BolinSpirit wrote:
      Legendofkorra wrote:
      yeah but spirts and humans can live peacefully together. Remember in begginnings the air nomads lived peacefully with spirits before vaatu came. Well right now there is not vaatu so it can be done
      yea well guess what, there are also no more airbenders.

      yes but korra could become a leader to teach humans to live a more peaceful way of life changing humanity to respect spirits and vice versa.  That is the challenge in book 3 that everything has changed and korra has to help everyone adjust

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    • Leaving the portals open was a bad idea. Sure it seemed good then as the world was in need for a change but as we know from the real world and Korra's world people and spirit don't tend to change that much.

      Spirit will come to hate the humans sooner or later. Humans will evolve and will make more cities like Republic City and the spirits will not like it. Heck, the spirits were angry when humans, to survive, hunted animals. Wan saved the Cat-Deer when the other humans wanted to hunt it and the spirits were grateful but this time things will not be the same.

      It might work for a while for the portals to be open but sooner or later they will be closed.

      Probably Book 3 will deal with Korra travelling to different parts of the world to see the change that has occured after the Harmonic Convergence. I'd really like it to be that way since Book 1 and 2 focused on Republic City like it was the only place in the whole world. Not even in the finale when the stakes were high didn't they mention or show us , I don't know, certain parts of the world who were experiencing the effects of the harmonic convergence and the battle and the spirits coming to the material world.

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    • TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      So, it's her fault that Tonraq had been hiding most of his advice from her, and that the only person with good fighting and spiritual tips for her was Unalaq? It's her fault that, in the beginning, Unalaq's advice always played out for her perfectly? It's her fault that Unalaq was simply good at containing spirits, while Tenzin and Tonraq failed at it miserably, so she wanted to turn to the more powerful and seemingly more experienced mentor? And, in the end, who saved the world during Harmonic Convergence? She did. Wan did fuck up the world when he attacked Raava and let Vaatu loose. So, Korra's doing her best to clean up his mess, but she's obviously not perfectly.

      U think that unalaqs advice was better? he just got lucky! everything turned in his favor by accident. tenzin and tonraq did their best. and tonraq didnt tell korra about the banishment to protect the family. she had to save the world or she would have been the worst person in the world. wan was smart to seperate the two worlds. korra made her own mess and put all her friends and family in danger to clean her shit up

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    • I'm not saying that Unalaq's advice was better. However, it certainly wokred out quite well for Korra, and, even after turning against him, she admitted that what he'd taught her was quite valuable. So, yeah, I'm not blaming Korra, because she did "clean her shit up" in the end.

      @MasterAirbender02 I also agree that it could be a bad idea to let humans and spirits dwell freely, but we'll see :D

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    • Since this is book '2' in the three book continuation of the series, we should see the characters at their lowest like TLA: Earth. Let's hope for some real development. Both for the main cast and for the opposing side.

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    • TarrlokUltimateWaterbender wrote:
      I'm not saying that Unalaq's advice was better. However, it certainly wokred out quite well for Korra, and, even after turning against him, she admitted that what he'd taught her was quite valuable. So, yeah, I'm not blaming Korra, because she did "clean her shit up" in the end.

      @MasterAirbender02 I also agree that it could be a bad idea to let humans and spirits dwell freely, but we'll see :D

      it was only ONE thing that was actualy valuable and everything else was bullshit. so saying unalaq taught her alot is wrong. he taught her only ONE thing.

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    • His advice played out perfectly for her, so how the hell should she have been able to detect said bullshit?

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    • I agree with keeping the portals open. Korra wants to see if humanity can work with the spirits and I applaud that. Having seen Wan's life, Korra will surely understand how she can do better in dealing with spirits

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    • QueenCeline wrote:
      I agree with keeping the portals open. Korra wants to see if humanity can work with the spirits and I applaud that. Having seen Wan's life, Korra will surely understand how she can do better in dealing with spirits

      I dont since it didnt work before it wont work now. and its too risky to do anything stupid right now.

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    • She did say that humans can go into the spirit world and vice versa. You also see a bunch of random flying spirits at the end of the last episode too. I doubt many humans started wandering the spirit world so far.

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    • Does anyone think that the dead Air Nomads might return since spirits can enter the physical world again?

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    • nahhh. why would they be in the spirit world?

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    • Cause they're dead like Iroh

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    • So Air dealed with the Air Nomads..........Spirits dealed with the Water Tribes any chance that Book 3 might be about the Earth Kingdom (and it might be connected to Bolin and Lin) and which might probably connected to The Rift trilogy

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    • But weren't Air Nomads all about detachment and such? I feel like they should've been able to go to the Spirit World after death.

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    • Warmachine375 wrote:
      Cause they're dead like Iroh


      He's a special case of someone who didn't pass on to the afterlife but remained in the spirit world.

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    • I'm mostly with Korra leaving the spirit portals open. It could be a great chance to see the spirits and humans trying to get along. But hey, things can go wrong sometimes.

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    • Wildstar93 wrote:
      I'm mostly with Korra leaving the spirit portals open. It could be a great chance to see the spirits and humans trying to get along. But hey, things can go wrong sometimes.

      Same, here.

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    • You should expect things to go wrong or book 2 would have been the last book.

      Kindof like that ending at Endless Waltz where they say after that conflict, there was no more war. Which makes complete sense somehow.

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    • Humans are corrupt and will corrupt others. the only humans who could co-exist with spirits were 'enlightened' airbenders, and they are all gone save tenzin. of course there are a few rare exceptions (iroh, katara and the avatars). But conflict between humans and spirits are inevitable, even if these spirits are good. 

      as for korra being a spiritual leader, she has no idea what she is doing. jinora is the only one in the entire series who knows how to act around spirits. Also, the spirit portal being open will allow spirits like koh to wreck havoc. they are not evil, but their role is percieved that way. he steals faces, its just his thing, like how his mom gives faces and she aint exactly a sweetheart either.

      there are just too many ways for this to end badly for it to work out. 

      final point, korra has to reconnect with her past lives. not only will it stregthen her Avatar state, but Aang was very good with spirits and is from her time period, so he would be able to provide help.

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    • There's a link in another thread to a q/a session with one of the people behind the series and pretty much says she's not getting them back. She's on her "own".

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    • But some people won't think that "they're not there anymore" (which is what one of the creators said) equals "they don't exist anymore."

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    • Anyone else rlly want to see more of what happen between the series. Ive been watching Avatar ever since it first came out and I am very attached to the old characters. I want to know what happen to zukos mom, who did zuko marry, who did Toph marry, and Sokka. Lots of unaswerd questions for the original series fans. Still loveing Korra and cant wait to see more. And i think i had a Fangasm when Zhao was in the fog babbaling :D

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    • Well, there is a certain measure of risk to Korra's idea. Past villans and evil spirits might appear to wreack havoc but who knows?

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    • All will be revealed soon in Book 3

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    • And all will really be revealed in Book 4.

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    • Until the comic series.

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    • i think its a mistake by the creators to get rid of the past lives. they added so much to the show

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    • For once I agree

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    • BolinSpirit wrote:
      QueenCeline wrote:
      I agree with keeping the portals open. Korra wants to see if humanity can work with the spirits and I applaud that. Having seen Wan's life, Korra will surely understand how she can do better in dealing with spirits
      I dont since it didnt work before it wont work now. and its too risky to do anything stupid right now.

      Things change, people learn, new methods are found. Never say never

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    • I don't like the title, it's kinda obvious, is it? I prefer the original titles; Water, Earth, Fire, and Air. Anyway, back to the point, I was a little disappointed in the season finale but nevertheless I'm quite satisified with it. They really need to clear the confusion around Jinora (Who is she, exactly?) and I was irriated we couldn't acknowledge the subskill of Airbending. Christ, why couldn't they reveal it? I suppose the Earth Kingdom will have a hard time to cooperate with Spirits because they're stubborn? :P

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    • Windwhip wrote:
      I don't like the title, it's kinda obvious, is it? I prefer the original titles; Water, Earth, Fire, and Air. Anyway, back to the point, I was a little disappointed in the season finale but nevertheless I'm quite satisified with it. They really need to clear the confusion around Jinora (Who is she, exactly?) and I was irriated we couldn't acknowledge the subskill of Airbending. Christ, why couldn't they reveal it? I suppose the Earth Kingdom will have a hard time to cooperate with Spirits because they're stubborn? :P

      All the titles are kind of obvious  aren't they? I don't find it to be that big of a deal, and as far as the Earth Kingdom being stubborn, I thought of that too! 

      I think that the fans just jumped to conclusions about the air bending sub skill, I don't exactly remember if they confirmed which book, I'm supposing to hold in, we'll get it eventually.   

      What about Jinora? I don't understand. 

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    • The Jinora issue about her randomly popping up in a light ball during that giant monster fight for no particular reason.

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    • That doesn't satisfy the question of who.  That arises the question of why.  In that case it is deus ex machina, in which case you should all be used to.  I don't even know why people get upset with it, Deus Ex Machina and Avatar go hand in hand.  hahah

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    • The problem arises from so many things in the last few episodes that just pop up. I don't mind some random rock as much as a child appearing like that in a spirit form inside of a ball of light. There's a point where no build-up or allusion just isn't a good story building technique. 

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    • It may not be good story telling but it has existed since the beginning of avatar and I don't think it is going any where any time soon.  It doesn't even bother me anymore, I'm numb to it in avatar.  

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    • Just accepting terrible writing and story telling doesn't fix the problem.

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    • Personally I don't see it as a problem.  I have better concerns in life than to worry about the writing of a show that I watch for fun.  Bigger fish to fry out there, sometimes you have to pick your battles and to tell you the truth I really couldn't care less if there is deus ex machina.  

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    • Will the creators reveal how did Jinora get that light?

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    • I don't know maybe. 

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    • No offense but the final between Giant Spirit Korra and Giant Unavaatu is kinda bit off. I want the battle between Light and Dark Avatars like Fairy Tail's Makarov vs Jose fight!

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    • ^ I have no idea what any of those things are, except the giant battle of course. 

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    • Which part?

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    • I personally like what they did with the show, since I actually think Wan was an idiot for closing the portals in the first place. But, of course after all this time, humans will have to learn how to live with spirits again, this time without the protection of the lion turtles.

      For Jinora.. I think they are kind of making her a spirit guide to Korra, and the whole ball of light thing was Jinora finding the light in the darkness(Korra didn't see the light spirit until after Jinora appeared).

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    • I think i'd rather have a fight like the final "fight" between Kou and Gato where the hero doesn't actually defeat the villain. At least something that is built up properly.

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    • Kataang Makorra wrote:
      I'm not yet sure what to think of the end of Book 2. I like how LoK is different from ATLA but leaving the portals open? And why do the spirits and the spirit world look so different than it did in ATLA?


      They don't, we saw only a very tiny portion of the Spirit World in AtLA in just one episode (the first season's finale) and we only saw a small handful of spirits as well. I don't see anything all that different from anything we saw in AtLA...if anything, what little we saw in AtLA was too similar to the physical world, imo. In any case, I see no radical differences between AtLA and Korra's depiction of the Spirit World or the spirits.

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    • Should have called the book Water instead, you know?

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    • Well no will be dating expect Bolin I guess

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    • OrderedComa wrote:
      Kataang Makorra wrote:
      I'm not yet sure what to think of the end of Book 2. I like how LoK is different from ATLA but leaving the portals open? And why do the spirits and the spirit world look so different than it did in ATLA?

      They don't, we saw only a very tiny portion of the Spirit World in AtLA in just one episode (the first season's finale) and we only saw a small handful of spirits as well. I don't see anything all that different from anything we saw in AtLA...if anything, what little we saw in AtLA was too similar to the physical world, imo. In any case, I see no radical differences between AtLA and Korra's depiction of the Spirit World or the spirits.

      Also, the Spirit World is probably like the mortal world, varied and numerous in its inhabitants and environment.

      I think the portals should stay closed because the Spirits drove out humans into little communities the last time. But it might work out now that humans have managed to build a considerable level of technology and knowledge.

      I'm curious what challenges Korra will have in Book 3. Hybrids? That would be cool, I'm actually writing a fanon about that. :P

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    • Do you think everyone will be able to see aang since he's a spirit and a lot of people from avatar the last airbender

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    • When you wrote "Spoilers" in the title, I thought you were about to leak some book 3 info.. I was disappointed.

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    • There will probably be some good and bad changes mixed in. It is now possible to have a spirit as your friend but it is also possible to have a spirit as your enemy.

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    • Wan made two major mistakes. The first mistake was separating Raava from Vaatu. The second mistake was made because of the first mistake, he closed the portals so no human can go into the Spirit World and released Vaatu. Unalaq couldn't even open one of the two portals. Wan could of just left one portal open, and leave the other one closed, that way, Vaatu couldn't escape his prison and spirits and humans would be able to live together.

      Korra did the right thing. She has defeated both Vaatu and Unalaq when they were fused together, despite losing her connection to the past Avatars and being separated from Raava. Now that she is bonded with Raava once more, recreating the Avatar Spirit, she can impart her wisdom to her future incarnations, and teach them how to purify dark spirits, not that it matters anymore.

      All spirits are immortal unless they chose to surrender their spiritual form form for a physical form. All humans have spirits, and some can leave their bodies behind and go to the spirit world. What happens when both your physical and spiritual self is in the spirit world? Do you die? The answer is no, Zhao the Moonslayer is still alive, whether his physical form was dragged into the Spirit World or his spirit was dragged into the Spirit World, spirits can inhabit a body for some time. Even if Zhao's physical form is dead, he can still reclaim his body and come back to life. Princess Yue was able transfer part of the Moon Spirit into the deceased fish and it came back to life.

      So perhaps Korra will never die and be incarnated, as long as she resides in the Spirit World and chooses to enter the physical World only when there is a disaster in order to resolve it and go back to the Spirit World.

      Just imagine, if Aang stayed dead after being shot with Lightning while in the Avatar State, Korra would not of been born, meaning that Vaatu would be imprisoned forever, and if Raava were to be reborn inside of Vaatu, they would both be trapped in the Tree of Time.

      This why I am lead to believe that Vaatu is permanently vanquished, in the sense that he is unable to pose a threat to anyone ever again. Just think of the battle between Korra/Raava and Unalaq/Vaatu as Ragnarok. The final battle between good and evil, and the good wins and the evils are vanquished, never to pose a threat ever again.

      Korra has the ability to close and open the portals. Korra has the ability to bend all four elements. Now that the portals are open and the Avatar has found a way to purify Vaatu instead of imprisoning him, Korra could just stay in the Spirit World for 10,000 while Vaatu grows inside of Raava, then when the next Harmonic Convergence comes, Korra could separate from Raava, while Vaatu emerges from Raava, separate Raava and Vaatu like Wan did, and purify Vaatu, or merge with Raava again, then purify Vaatu.

      Or.......maybe Korra lets herself be incarnated and once 10,000 years have past, the Avatar becomes the incarnation of both Raava and Vaatu. When Raava and Vaatu were the same size, Raava still had the upper hand, so perhaps when the Avatar becomes the incarnation of both spirits, the Light side will still be the one in control.

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    • korra beat unulaq and vaatu is gone for whatever reason. but it said in book 2 that light cant exist without darkness vice versa. so maybe in book 3 vaatu comes back? the portals whole reason for being closed was so vaatu wouldn't escape his prison, but now that he's "gone" there's no point in closing them, right? but what if he returns and someone new bonds with him like maybe even AMON??? because amon did run off with tarlock and the end of book one.

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    • I thought they [the portals] were closed because of the entire problem with Humans and spirits existing in the same world? Not to mention the whole exploding boat with Amon and Tarlock on board. Then again, I've seen characters come back from worse in a number of series.

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      BolinSpirit wrote:
      Legendofkorra wrote:
      yeah but spirts and humans can live peacefully together. Remember in begginnings the air nomads lived peacefully with spirits before vaatu came. Well right now there is not vaatu so it can be done
      yea well guess what, there are also no more airbenders.

      sorry to burst your bubble there, but there are plenty of air benders left. they were all kept safe underground Ba Sing Se since the Fire Nation wiped them out and are now controlled by the earth queen, whom hopes to raise the next air avatar. BOOM

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