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  • What did you guys think about this week's episode the sting?

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    • [waits for rabid shippers to swoon over the "return of Masami"]

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    • Pissed that once again Bolin gets left out of the action again. Really wish Bryke would figure what to do with the guy

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    • Agreed. Btw I expected Ginger to sound...older...

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    • Dude, Asami's reaction to being tossed in the air like that was extremely accurate...

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    • Ginger's voice was a surprise for me. I did expect her to sound older but seeing her personality towards Bolin, it fits her

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    • So, Triple Threat Triad waterbender from Welcome to Republic city is named Viper.

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    • Hey Bryke, imma need for you to stop breaking Asami's heart. K? K.

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    • How have you guys already seen it? I still have to wait 3 more hours for it to air on Nick.

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    • WTF!!!!!!

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    • NO LOVE TRIANGLES.

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    • It's on now for eastern/central.

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    • Viper is actually a pretty good waterbender. I guess he'd have to be considering he seems to be in charge of the Triad's now

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    • AWWWW SH**TTTT.... he's on to Varrick!

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    • whhhhhhyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!! :O

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    • Lol I really like Book 2 Mako.

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    • Fire Sages?!!!!!!

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    • I nearly called itttt.

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    • OH WHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • I'll say it again: "Do you know who you are?" 

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    • Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Lol I really like Book 2 Mako.

      Book 2 Mako is definitely better than Book 1 Mako though Book 2 Bolin is pissing me off. Maybe Book's 3 and 4 Bryke will have both Mako and Bolin be better than they were in previous Book's

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    • I thought it was great.

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    • The fandom wants Korra to change her attitude...

      The Avatar is a clean slate now. I hope her old personality comes back...

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    • Really enjoyed the Bolin scenes, finally getting some decent character developement.

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    • She needs to learn! I refuse to acknowledge Book 2: Spirits ending without Korra receiving any spiritual enlightenment at all! Tenzin and Unalaq haven't made any progress yet!

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    • Finally able to see the episode on time for once.

      Definitely an interesting episode. I figured Varrick would be a villain since the last episode, and it seems he is much more clever than he has led on so far. That double cross was played magnificently.

      I admit, I'm a little dissapointed that Bryke chose to dust of the love triangle stuff, but it doesn't seem like its going to be a central theme this time.

      I kinda wish the episode had focused less on Bolin's moviemaking. It wasn't all that interesting. I'm also kind of surprised that Bolin would turn his back on his brother like he did, it seemed very out of character from where I was sitting.

      And now Korra's an amnesiac. This should be interesting.

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    • She probably will given how it looks like a bunch of Fire Sages found her on some random jungle island.

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    • This was a great episode. Best of the season, but it would have been better, if they didn't bring back the love triangle. 

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    • Dragonfire333 wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Lol I really like Book 2 Mako.

      Book 2 Mako is definitely better than Book 1 Mako though Book 2 Bolin is pissing me off. Maybe Book's 3 and 4 Bryke will have both Mako and Bolin be better than they were in previous Book's

      Bolin isn't really making me mad, I actually chuckled at how he treated Mako. I just wish he had more of a purpose and he wasn't so naive. But still, his character is founded upon naivete, so, sigh...

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    • I honestly thought we were done with this 'quasi-pseudo Love Triangle' bullcrap but NOPE! I really thought Bryke learned something from BK 1's backlash over the Traingle and Makorra getting together but I guess not call it a 'heat of the moment' for Asami for kissing Mako as gratitude but SO help me if I get a repeat of 'Home-Wrecking Whore' Asami rants again  I swear to GOD I will rage!

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    • He had so much potential!  I loved his character!  GAH!  I hate twists!

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    • Yes Varric shows his true greedy self serving colors. Oh I hope thoe annoying mustache cops get whats coming to them or just have their musaches singed off. Now that old lady's question makes sense now. Wow Gingers voice suprized me the most really high and kind of whiny. Please don't have Bolins character development be tied to another girl though. 

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    • Yeah, looking at this episode as a whole, it really didn't even seem necessary to bring in that kiss. But since they insist on appeasing the teens....

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    • Bolin was told to find a purpose, found something more productive than pro-bending and is now someone popular and famous, so why would he be particularly nice to Mako when Mako tells him to find a purpose and then expects him to go with him on a dangerous mission with no forewarning?

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    • My only criticism is the lack of interaction between Unalaq and the Twins. They are so cold and distant. "The Avatar is dead."

      Unalaq walking out of the spirit portal = epic!

      Varrick's slasher smile is hella creepy when he made that deal with Asami. That's right, Asami made a deal wih the devil. That face...

      Remote-controlled detonators are apparently newer technology? Sure. (And the Winner Is...)

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    • Originalavatarnerdling wrote:
      He had so much potential!  I loved his character!  GAH!  I hate twists!

      I still love his character. :)

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    • Bolin was getting kind of bold and big headed in this episode, huh?  I hope he returns to his sweet loveable self when he gets down from the limelight...

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    • Lin telling Mako off like that was kinda weird, you think she would accept any clues to this case.

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    • First, never trust an eccentric businman, they're always hiding something. Varrik was acting that way to deliberatly hide his darker ruthless side. This guy started with nothing and is refusing to go back that way. Stealing Asami's company and causing a war, I hate to make a sci fi ref, but he reminds me of the Ferengi from Star Trek.

      As for Bolin, I think he's just giving Mako a taste of his own medicine, but of course it will bite him in the butt. He needs to learn to stand on his own two feet and make his own future, not let others tell him what to do or who to be.

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    • Varrick is evul!

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    • Wheelmaster wrote:
      Lin telling Mako off like that was kinda weird, you think she would accept any clues to this case.

      The thing is Mako doesn't have any proof to actually show Lin. The guy never saw Mako's suspect or the remote detonator. If he had, she probably would've given it some thought but he didn't.

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    • @Wheelmaster. I agree it is odd considering she belived Korra in BK 1 who accused Hiroshi of being an Equalist when she had no proof and yet somehow doesn't even try to believe Mako.  

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    • Only part that hooked me on..

      The last minute.

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    • um who is bryke? is it a mixture of bryan and mike?

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    • Its going to be interesting to have both Northern and Southern Water Tribe villains in one season.

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    • I'm thinking the same about Lin. One understands her sterness of course, but I thought that she had a little more trust in Mako. This episode made him seem just like an ignorant rookie to her. Even though he "embarassed" her in front of the president, still....

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    • Yeah Bryke refers to Mike and Bryan.

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    • I wonder if Mr. Sato will be reintroduced to the series. I mean, this seems like an appropriate time to bring him back, what with all the threats toward his business.

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    • Korratastic45 wrote:
      Only part that hooked me on..

      The last minute.

      Really Tastic? You can't watch only for Korra, can you? :/

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    • RaphiCollins wrote:
      um who is bryke? is it a mixture of bryan and mike?

      Yes, a very common term among the fandom. 

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    • Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Dragonfire333 wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Lol I really like Book 2 Mako.

      Book 2 Mako is definitely better than Book 1 Mako though Book 2 Bolin is pissing me off. Maybe Book's 3 and 4 Bryke will have both Mako and Bolin be better than they were in previous Book's

      Bolin isn't really making me mad, I actually chuckled at how he treated Mako. I just wish he had more of a purpose and he wasn't so naive. But still, his character is founded upon naivete, so, sigh...

      I really just wanted Bolin to get into a fight since he hasn't been in one since the first episode against one of the Dark Spirits. I'm okay with him being naive it's just that he's pretty much become this random character with nothing to do. Bryke doesn't know whether they want him to be a pro-bender, Varrick's follower, or just a tag along with Mako and the others. I'd be fine if they made him the tag along since at least he'd get some action and his bending might get better through it

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    • Of course I don't watch it just for Korra. I just really wanted to know what happened to her, the left us with a cliffhanger. Now they do it again. /:

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    • Bolin will man up and figure out what he wants soon enough.

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    • Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      RaphiCollins wrote:
      um who is bryke? is it a mixture of bryan and mike?
      Yes, a very common term among the fandom. 

      well im new to the wiki :P but i am a huge fan of avatar so yeah 

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    • Kashevl wrote: Bolin will man up and figure out what he wants soon enough.


      I sure hope so.

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    • Dragonfire333 wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Dragonfire333 wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Lol I really like Book 2 Mako.

      Book 2 Mako is definitely better than Book 1 Mako though Book 2 Bolin is pissing me off. Maybe Book's 3 and 4 Bryke will have both Mako and Bolin be better than they were in previous Book's

      Bolin isn't really making me mad, I actually chuckled at how he treated Mako. I just wish he had more of a purpose and he wasn't so naive. But still, his character is founded upon naivete, so, sigh...
      I really just wanted Bolin to get into a fight since he hasn't been in one since the first episode against one of the Dark Spirits. I'm okay with him being naive it's just that he's pretty much become this random character with nothing to do. Bryke doesn't know whether they want him to be a pro-bender, Varrick's follower, or just a tag along with Mako and the others. I'd be fine if they made him the tag along since at least he'd get some action and his bending might get better through it

      I'd prefer Varrick's follower. Imagine the coflict that would ensue. :) If Varrick treats Bolin how he would like to be treated, he'll follow him. Will he fall on his face in the end? Yes, but it'll be a great learning experience and a source for this heavily requested "development."

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    • Bolin wouldn't be that useful on ship, there not made of dirt and Bolin isn't a metalbender. Bolin doesn't seem spectatucarly well trained in hand to hand.

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    • Korratastic45 wrote:
      Of course I don't watch it just for Korra. I just really wanted to know what happened to her, the left us with a cliffhanger. Now they do it again. /:

      Yes, those dreaded cliffhangers :)

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    • RaphiCollins wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      RaphiCollins wrote:
      um who is bryke? is it a mixture of bryan and mike?
      Yes, a very common term among the fandom. 
      well im new to the wiki :P but i am a huge fan of avatar so yeah 

      Well hi, welcome! :)

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    • mako needs to stick with asami. i know we dont want a triangle again but thats just how i feel

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    • I want to believe that Bolin's propaganda film character, Nuktuk (or however you spell it), will play a significant role in Bolin's individuality, but... I don't know. Maybe all those propaganda films will inspire him to be something more than simply a celebrity tool.

      I sense an identity crisis somewhere down the road when (or if) he discovers Varrick's dark intentions.

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    • So... Nerdling Points:

      +10 I geeked out when Mako went all old school with the Fire Dagger.

      +25 This is exactly what I did during that big character revelation.

      +50 Well I guess Korra's personality is getting revamped, but I still was shouting, "Ain't nobody got time for that Korra, bring on the Wan flashbacks!"

      +5 FIRE SAGES!

      +5 The Asami and Mako actiony boat ride! 

      -5 Why is Lin Beifong being so harsh towards Mako? What angle is she playing at?

      +10 Ginger's voice! Nailed it!

      Oh and let's not forget----Unalaq? What are you up to and why are all 3 of you so nonchalant about everything!?

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    • David117 wrote:
      mako needs to stick with asami. i know we dont want a triangle again but thats just how i feel

      Everyone needs to get their lives together and figure out what they're doing this season. 

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    • What?!?!? Varrick's a shady b@stard with sinister ulterior motives? Who could have POSSIBLY seen that coming? Wow, did that come out of nowhere, or what?

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    • Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Dragonfire333 wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Dragonfire333 wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Lol I really like Book 2 Mako.

      Book 2 Mako is definitely better than Book 1 Mako though Book 2 Bolin is pissing me off. Maybe Book's 3 and 4 Bryke will have both Mako and Bolin be better than they were in previous Book's

      Bolin isn't really making me mad, I actually chuckled at how he treated Mako. I just wish he had more of a purpose and he wasn't so naive. But still, his character is founded upon naivete, so, sigh...
      I really just wanted Bolin to get into a fight since he hasn't been in one since the first episode against one of the Dark Spirits. I'm okay with him being naive it's just that he's pretty much become this random character with nothing to do. Bryke doesn't know whether they want him to be a pro-bender, Varrick's follower, or just a tag along with Mako and the others. I'd be fine if they made him the tag along since at least he'd get some action and his bending might get better through it
      I'd prefer Varrick's follower. Imagine the coflict that would ensue. :) If Varrick treats Bolin how he would like to be treated, he'll follow him. Will he fall on his face in the end? Yes, but it'll be a great learning experience and a source for this heavily requested "development."

      Sadly you're right. Though if I remembe right there was a scene of Mako and maybe Bolin running into a spirit portal so they'll eventually be back on better terms with each other later on. I was also really surprised with where Korra washed up at. I really was thinking she'd somehow ended up in the spirit world after getting swallowed by the kraken spirit

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    • Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      David117 wrote:
      mako needs to stick with asami. i know we dont want a triangle again but thats just how i feel
      Everyone needs to get their lives together and figure out what they're doing this season. 

      You are not wrong about that cupcakes.

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    • Maybe she's on the island that was in Book 1 Water were the fire sages were.

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    • Maybe she did go into the spirit world, just she got spat out after her adventures with Wan et al.

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    • Idk, it looks, prettier? :p

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    • Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      RaphiCollins wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      RaphiCollins wrote:
      um who is bryke? is it a mixture of bryan and mike?
      Yes, a very common term among the fandom. 
      well im new to the wiki :P but i am a huge fan of avatar so yeah 
      Well hi, welcome! :)

      Thanks dude! :)

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    • Is Ginger ever going to be developed as a character or not?

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    • Dragonfire333 wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Dragonfire333 wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Dragonfire333 wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Lol I really like Book 2 Mako.

      Book 2 Mako is definitely better than Book 1 Mako though Book 2 Bolin is pissing me off. Maybe Book's 3 and 4 Bryke will have both Mako and Bolin be better than they were in previous Book's

      Bolin isn't really making me mad, I actually chuckled at how he treated Mako. I just wish he had more of a purpose and he wasn't so naive. But still, his character is founded upon naivete, so, sigh...
      I really just wanted Bolin to get into a fight since he hasn't been in one since the first episode against one of the Dark Spirits. I'm okay with him being naive it's just that he's pretty much become this random character with nothing to do. Bryke doesn't know whether they want him to be a pro-bender, Varrick's follower, or just a tag along with Mako and the others. I'd be fine if they made him the tag along since at least he'd get some action and his bending might get better through it
      I'd prefer Varrick's follower. Imagine the coflict that would ensue. :) If Varrick treats Bolin how he would like to be treated, he'll follow him. Will he fall on his face in the end? Yes, but it'll be a great learning experience and a source for this heavily requested "development."
      Sadly you're right. Though if I remembe right there was a scene of Mako and maybe Bolin running into a spirit portal so they'll eventually be back on better terms with each other later on. I was also really surprised with where Korra washed up at. I really was thinking she'd somehow ended up in the spirit world after getting swallowed by the kraken spirit

      Hopefully, and hopefully by that time Korra would've gotten on good terms with Tenzin again. I wasn't really surprised, because really, who knows where that monster would go? Lol.

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    • I'm convinced that the Dark Spirits might be helping the Avatar...

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    • Thats a really interesting idea, how are they helping the Avatar?

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    • MASAMI'S BACK!!!!!! MASAMI'S BACK!!!!!! MASAMI'S BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Goldencupcakes200 wrote: Idk, it looks, prettier? :p


      Well a lot can change in 70 years it seems.

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    • AvatarIonathan wrote:
      MASAMI'S BACK!!!!!! MASAMI'S BACK!!!!!! MASAMI'S BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Byeeeee. 

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    • AtomicPsychology wrote:
      I'm convinced that the Dark Spirits might be helping the Avatar...

      I'm thinking the Dark Spirits are under the control of Unalaq or something and they need Korra to help them get out of Unalaq's control so that one thing swallowed her to help her get into the spirit world and learn about her past. 

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    • @Avatarlon. Good God Man Nooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS! I LOVE THIS! I CAN'T HANDLE THE FEELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • AvatarIonathan wrote: MASAMI'S BACK!!!!!! MASAMI'S BACK!!!!!! MASAMI'S BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      ...

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    • That dark spirit could have done anything to her. Drown her. Eat her. Take her to the lair of Dark Spirits. Crush her with its tentacles. Let Eska and Desna take Korra to Unalaq.

      But her memory is wiped clean (as if the Dark Spirit were taking away the negativity and pain she feels) and she drifts ashore to a spiritual place that will teach her a life lesson she will never forget.

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    • I don't think this thread is particularly the best place for a shipping war.

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    • I'm just kidding, but you're right, its not. Though I think it can be agreed on by many that another love triangle is completely, blatantly, entirely, and utterly unecessary and a bad move.

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    • Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Dragonfire333 wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Dragonfire333 wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Dragonfire333 wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Lol I really like Book 2 Mako.

      Book 2 Mako is definitely better than Book 1 Mako though Book 2 Bolin is pissing me off. Maybe Book's 3 and 4 Bryke will have both Mako and Bolin be better than they were in previous Book's

      Bolin isn't really making me mad, I actually chuckled at how he treated Mako. I just wish he had more of a purpose and he wasn't so naive. But still, his character is founded upon naivete, so, sigh...
      I really just wanted Bolin to get into a fight since he hasn't been in one since the first episode against one of the Dark Spirits. I'm okay with him being naive it's just that he's pretty much become this random character with nothing to do. Bryke doesn't know whether they want him to be a pro-bender, Varrick's follower, or just a tag along with Mako and the others. I'd be fine if they made him the tag along since at least he'd get some action and his bending might get better through it
      I'd prefer Varrick's follower. Imagine the coflict that would ensue. :) If Varrick treats Bolin how he would like to be treated, he'll follow him. Will he fall on his face in the end? Yes, but it'll be a great learning experience and a source for this heavily requested "development."
      Sadly you're right. Though if I remembe right there was a scene of Mako and maybe Bolin running into a spirit portal so they'll eventually be back on better terms with each other later on. I was also really surprised with where Korra washed up at. I really was thinking she'd somehow ended up in the spirit world after getting swallowed by the kraken spirit
      Hopefully, and hopefully by that time Korra would've gotten on good terms with Tenzin again. I wasn't really surprised, because really, who knows where that monster would go? Lol.

      Lol yeah the spirit probably has some family around the island and just decided to drop Korra off on his way there. I'm guessing the next time she's sees Tenzin she'll apologize for how she acted

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      • calms down and turns off caps* Okay....I can do this...Keep in mind that we are only a small section of the fandom. What we say doesn't ultimately influence the creators. In fact, the shipping hate did not start until I found this wiki. Have you ever thought that maybe shipping wars is why there putting it in there?
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    • If she remembers who Tenzin is at that point, at the moment she doesn't even know her own name.

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    • AvatarIonathan wrote:
      *calms down and turns off caps* Okay....I can do this...Keep in mind that we are only a small section of the fandom. What we say doesn't ultimately influence the creators. In fact, the shipping hate did not start until I found this wiki. Have you ever thought that maybe shipping wars is why there putting it in there?

      The shipping wars are fought in a lot more places than this Wiki. There's Tumblr, which I dare not even think about looking at right now, there's the Avatar Spirit Network, and however many blogs decide to talk about today's episode.

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    • A loud minority, if you will. And no, this wiki isn't the only source of complaints about the shipping overload that was one of the most crippling factors of Book 1. A lot of us don't even hate shipping. (Refer to Avatar: The Last Airbender) what we hated was the crappy love triangle that really should not be re-kindled in anyway. If it must (which I really don't think it should), it'd better have some depth and actually be interesting.

      I don't understand your last sentence.

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    • Wheelmaster wrote:
      AvatarIonathan wrote:
      *calms down and turns off caps* Okay....I can do this...Keep in mind that we are only a small section of the fandom. What we say doesn't ultimately influence the creators. In fact, the shipping hate did not start until I found this wiki. Have you ever thought that maybe shipping wars is why there putting it in there?
      The shipping wars are fought in a lot more places than this Wiki. There's Tumblr, which I dare not even think about looking at right now, there's the Avatar Spirit Network, and however many blogs decide to talk about today's episode.

      My point exactly. We founded ships! The fanodm loves shippings.....

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    • To be fair, the triangle has been done a little better so far. It's nowhere near as awkward and stilted as it was in "The Spirit of Competition".

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    • Of course a lot of us do, there's nothing wrong with shipping. What is wrong is when it becomes a focal point of a show and is terribly handled, and then when the creators apperar to step back into that territory later on. 

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    • So tons of tumblr and instagram accounts dedicated to shippings is a small minority? I have actually found articles trying to convince shippers to respect each others ships. I still find Kataang and Zutara still being fought over.

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    • I can't believe Korra lost her Memory and she's already in the Fire Nation. let's hope the Fire Sages and the current Firelord with her Father will help Korra out in Beginnigs

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    • Wheelmaster wrote:
      To be fair, the triangle has been done a little better so far. It's nowhere near as awkward and stilted as it was in "The Spirit of Competition".

      In Book 2? We haven't seen it yet lol. I hope we don't have to.

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    • The Kataang and Zutara War was pretty much dead by the time Korra came around, if I remember right. I'm pretty sure Korra resurrected it for a while. But then everything changed when "The Spirit of Competition" aired. I hope Bolin doesn't end up shipped with Ginger.

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    • I liked the Mako storyline but the Korra thing at the end seems odd. Yeah the Triads are getting more focus.

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    • Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Wheelmaster wrote:
      To be fair, the triangle has been done a little better so far. It's nowhere near as awkward and stilted as it was in "The Spirit of Competition".
      In Book 2? We haven't seen it yet lol. I hope we don't have to.

      So Asami kissing Mako doesn't qualify as shipping? It does look like it might make a return in later episodes because Korra is missing and Asami still seems to like Mako a fair bit.

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    • If youv'e ever been on Instagram, you'd see that people still care. That's what that article I found focused on.

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    • As a whole, Zutara vs Kataang died down from its peak, you really don't hear anything major about it anymore. Really looking forwards to Beginnings to see how Korra regains her memories. Hopefully Lin starts to listen to Mako soon, but I doubt it'll happen.

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    • You know what I'd like, for Mako to be the only thing that Korra remembers. Yeah....that'd be romantic.

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    • Wheelmaster wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Wheelmaster wrote:
      To be fair, the triangle has been done a little better so far. It's nowhere near as awkward and stilted as it was in "The Spirit of Competition".
      In Book 2? We haven't seen it yet lol. I hope we don't have to.
      So Asami kissing Mako doesn't qualify as shipping? It does look like it might make a return in later episodes because Korra is missing and Asami still seems to like Mako a fair bit.

      "Shipping" is a collection of pairings generally left to the fandom. It's only in the show if a couple is canon. (Which Masami is currently not) By love triangle, I mean an actual "love triangle," which we have yet to see in Book 2.

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    • I think it'd be more interesting if she only remembered her uncle.

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    • I remember in Civil Wars Part 2 where I thought something was very suspicious about Varrick....

      Then I thought, no..... maybe I'm just being tooooo curious, cause I actually like Varrick.....

      ...........Always trust your instincts.

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    • Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Wheelmaster wrote:
      Goldencupcakes200 wrote:
      Wheelmaster wrote:
      To be fair, the triangle has been done a little better so far. It's nowhere near as awkward and stilted as it was in "The Spirit of Competition".
      In Book 2? We haven't seen it yet lol. I hope we don't have to.
      So Asami kissing Mako doesn't qualify as shipping? It does look like it might make a return in later episodes because Korra is missing and Asami still seems to like Mako a fair bit.
      "Shipping" is a collection of pairings generally left to the fandom. It's only in the show if a couple is canon. (Which Masami is currently not) By love triangle, I mean an actual "love triangle," which we have yet to see in Book 2.

      Eh fair enough, just depends on how you define shipping I suppose. Personally I feel that them kissing is shipping.

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    • Varrick being underhanded doesn't mean that we have to dislike him, people! Lol.

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    • Masami has always been a shipping.....

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    • Even though Varrick is now more or less a villain, I still think he's really funny. He doesn't strike me as too evil, just unbelievably greedy and business savvy.

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    • Yes! By the fandom! They are not a canon couple now, which makes them only shipped by fans.

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    • I thought I read about Makorra which will maintain their relationship after it become little complicated. Also, I hope Mako will find out that Korra is dead, but we should see of how he will refuse the fact.

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    • The only thing I disliked about this episode is Bolin's antics. Despite being the designated comic relief, he just isn't terribly funny. I suspect that Bolin feels inferior to Mako, which is why he refused to help him. He's probably tired of playing second fiddle, and he just wants to do something independent of Mako.

      I was wrong about the Agni Kai triad being in cahoots with Varrick, but it was much more interesting with it actually being the Tripe Threat Triad. I'm curious as to what Mako's going to do now. He still doesn't have any definitive proof that Varrick is the one who orchestrated the attack on the Southern Water Tribe cultural center or that he hired the Triple Threat Triad to steal Asami's shipment. All he has is his word. If he tells Lin that he conducted a sting operation without authoritizion and that he solicited help from one of Republic city's most notorious gangs, she'll take his shield. He also needs to be vigilant, now that the Varrick knows that he's on to him. I won't be surprised at all, if one or more of the triple threats tries to 'eliminate' him.

      I'm also really liking Varrick as a villian. The fact that his quirky, benign demeanor is actually concealing the fact that he's a sinister, crafty mountebank was a genius move on the part of the writers. I'm looking forward to seeing more of him this season.

      As for the Masami kiss, I'm not freaking out about it. I was only concerned that Mako would kiss back, sparking yet ANOTHER stupid love triangle. Thankfully, that didn't happen. Asami was just under a significant amount of distress. Being that Mako is one of the few people who actually cares about her, she sought comfort from him. I highly doubt she's going to pursue him or vice versa.

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    • I really hate what byrke did to bolin in this episode

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    • Wheelmaster wrote:
      Is Ginger ever going to be developed as a character or not?

      I don't know why Lin Beifong is 'acting' they way she is acting.  Does not seem to me to be her character.  Like she is under lots of pressure and stress.  I also do not trust those detectives.  they put the remote device in the desk and forgot about it...  I wonder if the Chief has an investigation on the President and Varrick.  And Ginger is an inside mole.  Now that would be interesting.  Maybe Chief Beifong is working with the Kyoshi Warriors or Earth Kingdom trying to keep the peace.  A corrupt President in charge a  military like United Forces would not be good.  Varrick said he likes to hedge his bets.  No, I do not like Chief Beifong in Book 2.  Something is wrong with her.  Something is up.  Right now, we do not know what happened during the 6 months before Book 2.  I hate that...

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    • I don't think Varrick will have Mako killed. That would just lead to Mako having more protection on him from the Police Department, and I don't think Varrick wants Mako to be aggressively pursuing him with backup.

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    • People are too defensive over romance. That's my thought.

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    • I hope this means where gonna see Zuko and Zuko's daughter next episode!  

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    • Seeing Zuko's daughter would be nice.  But I want to know three things.  1. her name. 2 her age. 3. her mother.  any less and I will be disappointed. [Insert whining sounds]

      EDIT:  If I wanted to see romance, I would watch some anime.  LOK blew their chance at good romance when they did not follow up with Bolin and Korra.  Gave the viewers about half the show of Bolin showing Korra the city and then dumps them.  Just my thoughts...  And I agree, People are too defensive over romance.

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    • Next episode and the episode after that looks like they'll be an extended flashback about Wan. If we do see them, it'll probably be like Lin or Iroh II and we see them for a few seconds here and there.

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    • Eska:  I WANT MY BOLIN!!!!

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    • Doozle-lange wrote:
      Seeing Zuko's daughter would be nice.  But I want to know three things.  1. her name. 2 her age. 3. her mother.  any less and I will be disappointed. [Insert whining sounds]

      EDIT:  If I wanted to see romance, I would watch some anime.  LOK blew their chance at good romance when they did not follow up with Bolin and Korra.  Gave the viewers about half the show of Bolin showing Korra the city and then dumps them.  Just my thoughts...  And I agree, People are too defensive over romance.

      I tottally agree with that!  

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    • It just wasn't that big of a scene. And even if it was, I've come to the realization that nothing is going to put me off of this show. I'd rather see where it ends up after all 4 Books & be disappointed than quit & never know.

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    • I agree, I love this show to much to stop watching it even if every episode isn't as interesting as some there all important and they all give you hints what is going to happen next!  

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    • I don't think that Korra is in the central palace part of the Fire Nation, so I doubt we'll see any royals.

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    • Korra having amnesia. Cliched a bit but she certainly needs some charecter development after her my way or the highway stint.I am so suprised  with myself actually liking Mako so much this season while in Air he annoyed me. Asami sounded almost giddy when she said " You broke up. When?" so glad Mako did not kiss back. 

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    • The Air Nomad Critic wrote:
      Finally able to see the episode on time for once.

      Definitely an interesting episode. I figured Varrick would be a villain since the last episode, and it seems he is much more clever than he has led on so far. That double cross was played magnificently.

      I admit, I'm a little dissapointed that Bryke chose to dust of the love triangle stuff, but it doesn't seem like its going to be a central theme this time.

      I kinda wish the episode had focused less on Bolin's moviemaking. It wasn't all that interesting. I'm also kind of surprised that Bolin would turn his back on his brother like he did, it seemed very out of character from where I was sitting.

      And now Korra's an amnesiac. This should be interesting.

      Mako was an asshole to him last episode, so of course he's gonna reciprocate.

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    • The Dark Spirits are raging in the South, Unalaq visiting the Spirit World for mysterious reasons, Desna and Eska following their father's every command, Varrick fueling the flames of this civil war, and the Triads working under Varrick.

      So many antagonists for a 14 episode Book!

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    • We're talking about the amnesia openly now? Great, I've been dying to get this one off of my chest:

      Korra forgot everything that she learned so far!

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    • Mako100 wrote: Maybe she's on the island that was in Book 1 Water were the fire sages were.

      Not likely, as Roku destroyed the temple after taking over for Aang.

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote: We're talking about the amnesia openly now? Great, I've been dying to get this one off of my chest:

      Korra forgot everything that she learned so far!

      She still bends, but I almost like the parallel to her using airbending when she first was surprised, compared to when she first used airbending after the removal of her other abilities.

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    • The joke was that everyone keeps saying that she forgets what she learns.

      Theoretically, Aang could have recreated the island while in the Avatar State.

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    • What do you guys think about this theory.

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    • FireandIce128 wrote: What do you guys think about this theory.

      I think that look was his conscience, actually. As rotten as he is, that's still his niece. And it's just occurring to him that he basically got her killed with his ambitions. And his kids don't even care because he's totally failed at being a parent. And these realizations are going to be what eat away at him & eventually force him to abandon his ambitions.

      That's my theory, anyway.

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    • I am loving Varrick more and more as a character. Was not expecting this dark side of him. He's surprisingly quite cunning.

      I personally like what they're doing with Bolin in this Book. He's trying to figure out what to do with his life, and so far it doesn't seem like he's found his true calling yet.

      (Ginger's voice ... ick. I thought it would be lower. LOL)

      Why are people freaking out about the Masami kiss? Mako didn't kiss back, and it's obvious that he still has feelings for Korra. I personally don't think that kiss is going to be a major issue later on.

      So, Korra has amnesia ... Completely unexpected, but very interesting. While I am incredibly curious as to how and why she got amnesia, I wonder what purpose it will serve. I mean, so far she's been stubborn and rash, so will her having amnesia help her to mature or ...? Don't get me wrong, I love the whole amnesia thing, but I do wonder where the creators are going with this.

      This was a great episode overall. :)

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    • Not surprised about Varrick.  I figured out his game last week.  I was surprised to see Korra at the end.  I didn't expect to see her at all.  I'm curious as to how the amnesia will be treated, as I can't imagine her getting her memory back within the next two or three episodes.  They'll probably rush it, though.  I guess the Wan story will help her get her memories back.

      I really liked seeing the Triads again, and hearing that Shady Shin did not get his bending back.  With so many people who lost their bending, I figured Korra would give most of the bending back, but not the criminals' bending.  Nice to see that headcanon confirmed.  Ping was a pretty funny guy, and a nice breath of fresh air after some of this season's episodes have left me disappointed.

      Bolin's movers are hilarious.  The Mako-Bolin interactions were good this episode.  I like Mako trying to be serious and be a good cop, while Bolin is letting mover acting go to his head.  

      Asami's kiss surprised me a bit at first, but I understand it.  She can't just forget her feelings for Mako, she's going through a lot, and did seem really apologetic for it.  Plus heat of the moment.  

      Really loved this episode, probably my favorite so far of this season.  Can't wait to see where we'll go next.

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    • This episode managed to both infuriate me and yet absolutely WOW me at the same time.  So I guess I'll organize my thoughts into my Pros and Cons.

      Pros:

      1) Varrick:  Nuf said here.  Varrick truly being revealed as the weasly slime that he is was awesome.  His scenes at the end where he truly managed to look menacing and sinister were all the more effective due to his utter goof-ball behavior of previous episodes.  He truly comes across as a master manipulator, one that even when he's getting you to do bad things, he is just so charming and harmless that you can't help but just be swept along.  And yet, here he is, masterminding the complete takeover of Future Industries, all while leaving Asami grinning like an idiot and profusely thanking him for stealing her company right out from under her the whole time, and making it BELIEVEABLE.  That actually takes quite a bit of talent right there, and I offer up a very enthusiastic golf-clap for the writers for managing to pull this off the way they did.  Bravo.

      2) Mako:  Mako is fast becoming my favorite character of this season, which, considering the complete lack of care I had for him in the previous season, is a huge turnaround.  He is pretty much demonstrating himself to be the only competent, sane member of Team Avatar at this point (or amongst most of the cast as well), and the only one who actually seems to want to actually try and really solve the issues going on in an intelligent way.  Though this does sort of tie in with the Cons which will be listed next...

      Cons:

      1) Everyone Else:  I'm guessing everyone else took full shots of concentrated stupid or something between seasons, as just about every other character behaved like an utter moron this episode.  Chief Bei Fong is practically a joke at this point, which pains me deeply to say since she was one of my favorites, and both Asami and Bolin were absolutely baffling in their behavior.  While I can understand them not being able to see through Varrick, Bolin is pretty much going nowhere as a character at this point (though there is still time for change), and Asami is pretty much being taken for an absolute fool to the point where she happily announces her complete loss of her company without the slightest hint that she realizes "oh wait, I just lost my company anyways!"  Overall, the other characters just caused me to repeatedly face palm over and over in this episode.

      2) The resurection of the dreaded love-triangle:  Seriously, while I'm not certain whether this will really go very far, I would have hoped that the writers would have learned the lesson imparted by season 1 and just how unpopular that whole love-triangle debacle was.  Yet now we have them trying to rekindle Mako/Asami, which given how their relationship ended, makes little-to-no sense for either of their characters.  Asami has no real reason to want to get back with Mako except for a very shallow damsel in distress bit, and Mako really should stop this from going anywhere before it all hits the fan again.  And if this continues, trust me, quite a lot will be hitting a very, VERY large fan.

      3) AMNESIA!!!:  No, just no.  Seriously, they're pulling the single most tired plot cliche in the book?!  REALLY!?  You can't get any more hackneyed than this.  All I can say about this is that they better not drag this out for long.  One episode, maybe two tops.  Anymore than that and I don't think my forehead can take anymore blunt force impacts from my palm.

      So, overall, a stronger emotional reaction than last episode, yet a very up and down rollercoaster ride for me personally.  At least I feel invested again though, allthough some elements of this episode almost made me rage.

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    • I knew it! Varrick was the real mastermind behind the civil war all along. He wanted to use this to profit from both sides. Unalaq and the northern water tribe are pawns in his plan.

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    • I doubt Unalaq is a pawn, but Varrick is a business man, and a business man knows how to make the best of a tense, hostile situation. Varrick's a sideshow, like Tarrlok, maybe even less than him actually, since Tarrlok tied into the main antagonist very well. Unalaq or whatever spirit he's involved with is the real enemy still, but now Varrick is being used to make Unalaq more sympathetic, more relatable and understandable, since his words have truth to them now. 

      Korra losing her mind is an improvement. If brain bleach is the only way to make her change her terrible 'rebel' gimmick she has going, then I'm all for it, even if it wastes time. 

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    • I don't think Unalaq and the North are so much Varrick's pawns, as it is that Varrick is just very savy at taking advantage of a situation.  Unalaq has his own goals and agendas, and I doubt he was put on this path by Varrick for the sole purpose of helping Varrick make money.  Varrick simply didn't need to manipulate Unalaq into doing what he is currently doing, he just had to be crafty enough to see an ideal money-making opportunity.

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    • Chi13i wrote:
      I don't think Unalaq and the North are so much Varrick's pawns, as it is that Varrick is just very savy at taking advantage of a situation.  Unalaq has his own goals and agendas, and I doubt he was put on this path by Varrick for the sole purpose of helping Varrick make money.  Varrick simply didn't need to manipulate Unalaq into doing what he is currently doing, he just had to be crafty enough to see an ideal money-making opportunity.

      Pretty much this. Varrick's a business man, he knows when to take advantage of a situation. Unalaq doesn't seem at all the kind of guy who would work with Varrick. 

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    • No, you don't have to work for someone to be a pawn. What I meant is that Varrick pretty much masterminded the whole thing. Unalaq is currently holding back against the rebels.

      Varrick hired the triads, destroying future industries, I bet he plans to get rid of Unalaq himself. That is low, even for a businessman

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    • So many awesome things tonight....I so can't wait for next week and to see the origins of the Avatar :D

      While it didn't completely catch me by surprise that Varrick had shady dealings, it did sort of surprise me that he was behind attacking Asami's shipments...bombing the Cultural Center didn't surprise me all that much as it sort of made sense with what we knew about his character. While he certainly is corrupt and schemey, I certainly don't think he's evil. And Lin still feels totally off to me, it seems almost like they reset a lot her character >_>

      Korra having amnesia.....now that was a HUGE surprise, I'm excited to see how that develops and how they'll go about getting her memory back. That's one of the things I'm looking forward to most when it comes to seeing how it plays out. I'm not worried about Asami kissing Mako...it's obvious that he still has feelings for Korra and that's where his heart is, Masami is very highly unlikely to happen.

      Torresp wrote:
      I knew it! Varrick was the real mastermind behind the civil war all along. He wanted to use this to profit from both sides. Unalaq and the northern water tribe are pawns in his plan.

      That's taking things a bit far doncha think? Varrick might be manipulating the situation to his benefit....but acting like the whole entire thing was an evil plan of his all along and the whole entire season is his doing is a bit of a stretch. For one, Unalaq wasn't manipulated into invading the Southern Water Tribe or anything he did, that was all his own doing. Varrick had nothing to do with Unalaq initiating a hostile takeover and police-state over the Southern Water Tribe. It was something he took advantage of, but he didn't have anything to do with the invasion coming about.

      Likewise, the civil war was an inevitability. Remember Senna's talk with Korra in the episode Civil Wars? And how all of the people were behaving? War between the two tribes was going to happen with or without Varrick's involvement.

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    • AldenHeathcliffe wrote:
      I doubt Unalaq is a pawn, but Varrick is a business man, and a business man knows how to make the best of a tense, hostile situation. Varrick's a sideshow, like Tarrlok, maybe even less than him actually, since Tarrlok tied into the main antagonist very well. Unalaq or whatever spirit he's involved with is the real enemy still, but now Varrick is being used to make Unalaq more sympathetic, more relatable and understandable, since his words have truth to them now. 

      Korra losing her mind is an improvement. If brain bleach is the only way to make her change her terrible 'rebel' gimmick she has going, then I'm all for it, even if it wastes time. 

      Even if it improves her character, and it very well might, pulling the amnesia bit is pretty much an admission of failure for a character and thus requiring a Reboot and Restart.  They could have handled the situation far better where Korra finds herself in the Spirit World and actually learns a lesson without needing a heaping dose of Writer Cop-Out/Brain Bleach to facilitate it.  That last scene alone just really killed it for me, and honestly they might have well just written a disclaimer at the end sayiing "We pretty much wrote ourselves into a corner regarding Korra's character, and will now be rebooting her.  We apologize for the inconvienience."

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    • Wow, of all the characters, Asami suffers the most.

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    • I don't like the amnesia plot, but I think you're drawing a lot of unfounded conclusions, there. There are a number of reasons to use it besides rebooting a character.

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    • I like this episode. We want to see how all the things will going on. I like Mako here, he trys to find the truth and makes his own research. To hire the Triple Triads actually was a good idea. But Varrick seems to have his hands in this things. And the police seems to have no real interest (maybe Varrick paid some officers so they hinder Mako and his research?). I feel sorry for Asami here, she lost everything and gets used by Varrick with the contract they made (she does not know it yet). Bolin´s "career" as an actor -__- he was very selfish and a fool here. By the way Varrick´s movie is a nice parallel to the Ember Island players :)

      I have no problem with the fact that we have not seen Tenzin, Bumi and Kya here. Maybe they can have an episode later with more parts in it.

      And: Korra lost her memory after the spirit attack? Let´s see if she can get them back! And Fire Sages? Nice!

      All in all this is my favorite episode till now, direct after "the southern lights". I look forward to the next episode. 

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    • 2 words:great episode

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    • How does everybody still not hate Mako? So he wouldn't just keep a secret to help Korra, his former girlfriend, because he "doesn't want to lose his job," but he'll go completely behind the chief of police's back just to prove that he is right? How can you not think he is a jerk? Plus he was completely responsible for Asami getting all of her stuff stolen, since it was completely his idea, like what the heck, how much are you guys gonna let him get away with before you see he screwed up big time? I don't even care about the whole Makorra vs. Masami thing, he's just being inconsistent and acting like his job is important when it is convenient for him to do so, but if it interfers with him proving that he is right, then it's no big deal. Really!? 

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    • Ziryerx has a point, Mako was being a huge hypocrite in this episode. I don't hate him, but I think the people who were all "Mako good Korra bad" have some serious word-eating to do now.

      Anyway, those 2 jerk cops with the mustaches are almost certainly on Varrick's pay roll.

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    • wrote at 5 am. this is my feelings on Mako 2.0  reply to #1

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    • Great episode, but I don't think it was worth waiting a whole week for it.

      I was a bit disappointed that we didn't see Korra much. Korra's memory loss was my favorite scene in the entire episode, the second being Makos' and Asami kiss.

      I was also surprised to see the Fire Sages, and even theirs own new island :O

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    • ^ I agree, my favorite part was Korra and her memory loss, and of course the Fire Sages! :D

      I also loved the final scene with Varrick, Mako, and Asami. I love Varrick, but I think he's going to be an even bigger bad than Unalaq.

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    • I suspected she'd would have a memory loss in one episode.

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    • I haven't seen it yet, I am currently out of town for my great grandmother's funeral and as a result I didn't really have the time to see the episode yesterday.  This is likely the only comment I will be able to make today.

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    • did anybody else notice that in varrick's propaganda movies unalaq looks and acts like that actor who played fire lord ozai in the ember island play.

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    • @Pheonix. My condolences friend I know how that feels....

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    • I so want a twist ending for Varrick. He now owns Future Industries.  And Asami just happened to forget to tell Varrick that Future Industries was just indited by the President of United Republic for its involvement in the Revolution by the Equalists and all of the assets and future assets belong to the United Republic as compensation for the Revolution.  Or something like that... 

      from now on to the end of Book 4, I demand that the writers Leave Asami Alone.  1. mother dead when 6. 2. Boy crush on Mako. only knew it was over by Mako's actions toward Korra. Mako had no guts to tell Asami in person until last 2 episodes. Yeah, you a real man, Mako. By then, Asami had figured it out, Dude.  3. Father was bad guy. In prison for life.  Now no parents.  Korra missing. Now no BFF or atleast a friend.  4. Company stolen from under her and she was happy to let Varrick steal it.  Yeah. Leave Asami Alone.

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    • Hmmmm.. if everybody is upset about whatever I have another show for you that is so much easier to handle.XD

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    • Yeah, I survived Deadman Wonderland I'll survive the [BEEP] writers of LOK.  Deadman Wonderland had more compassion then this show...

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    • Look don't worry Asami probably won't be hated until Book 3.

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    • Mako100 wrote:
      Look don't worry Asami probably want be hated until Book 3.

      And probably killed off just before the happy ending of Book 4. :-)

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    • Doozle-lange wrote:

      Mako100 wrote:
      Look don't worry Asami probably want be hated until Book 3.

      And probably killed off just before the happy ending of Book 4. :-)


      No, don't worry she is part of the main cast.

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    • Loved this episode. Mako is really coming into his own as a hero like I thought he would. I actually think this romantic turmoil is brilliant. It's not just the return if a love triangle. Remember the first season; simple infatuation, teenage love sort of stuff.

      I think this romance is significantly different, in a good way. These young people are growing up, and their feelings clearly aren't coming from looks or infatuation anymore, at least in the case of Mako and Asami. I think it's genuine appreciation of another person. (Crosses fingers)

      Another thing I liked was how much conflict there is between Team Avatar. It really is an interweb of allies and enemies with contrasting goals. I'm not even sure if there is a main villain pulling all the strings.

      Bravo to Bryan and Mike for setting up what looks to be a monumental season. It really is beautiful the way all of these conflicting interests, emotions, and motives are weaving together...not to mention the underlying significance of the Spirit World. It's a breath of fresh air. I'm all in; if you haven't noticed xD

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    • Ziryerx wrote:
      How does everybody still not hate Mako? So he wouldn't just keep a secret to help Korra, his former girlfriend, because he "doesn't want to lose his job," but he'll go completely behind the chief of police's back just to prove that he is right? How can you not think he is a jerk? Plus he was completely responsible for Asami getting all of her stuff stolen, since it was completely his idea, like what the heck, how much are you guys gonna let him get away with before you see he screwed up big time? I don't even care about the whole Makorra vs. Masami thing, he's just being inconsistent and acting like his job is important when it is convenient for him to do so, but if it interfers with him proving that he is right, then it's no big deal. Really!? 

      I don't think it's the job itself, it's the pursuit of the truth that motivated him to split with Korra. Like Lin she proved to be biased and heavy handed in her thinking, and Mako wants the truth to be known or at least investigated before everyone jumps to conclusions that it's Unalaq's North that did this. Turns out he was right all along, the true culprit was in front of everyones noses and without his investigation they would have all been blind to it.

      And we can hardly blame him for getting Asami's war gear stolen. Might as well blame Korra for the disaster at the Pro-Bending final or Lin Bei Fong for her general incompetence before the Equalists throughout season 1, or blame Iroh for getting his fleet desolated. He didn't know the shipment would get stolen, Iroh didn't know the enemy would have war planes, and so on.

      I think you are just determined to dislike Mako.

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    • I HATE Mako... there... I said.  [Quietly closed the door]

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    • Doozle-lange wrote:
      I HATE Mako... there... I said.  [Quietly closed the door]

      I don't like him either. It seems like the only way the writers could make him interesting and likeable was to make everyone else unlikeable in return. He's bland, boring, and I don't like his voice actor. That said, in this case I think he's in the right. 

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    • I really liked how Bryke isn't focusing on so much shipping/romance in book 2 (so far) there only have been little tibits here and there which adds extra spice since they ARE teenagers. Even Aang had weird romance problems and he was like 12 years old! 

      I respect Mako much more in the sense that he didn't say anything about Asami's kiss i.e. didn't return it like he did in episode 5 last season to Korra, because he knows his priorities (his job) and can't focus about love right now, extremely respectable in my case. 

      I feel like it's natural for one like Bolin who came from being Mako's brother who does nothing to a big star for him to start having an ego, his attitude was understandable, no matter how jerky he was. 

      This was one of my favorite episodes can't wait to see more of what happens with Varrick and Korra!!!!

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    • Eh in my opinion Mako...is slightly getting better 

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    • People wanted Mako to stop being a jerk but now there still not happy that he's trying to improve.

      Beggers can't be choosers. Eusa_snooty.gif

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    • I found the episode to be very enjoyable. I laughed so hard with The Adventures of Nuktuk: Hero of the South!

      I kinda liked how the episode was centered around something that WASN'T for Korra. Don't get me wrong, I love Korra, she's an epic Avatar, but we'll get back to her later...

      Varrick being a villain was completely unexpected for me. I love how they made a comic relief character evil in this show! Genius!

      I'm kinda disappointed with Asami though. I'm glad that she's taken on Future Industries and will do anything to keep it running, but geez, she took Mako's words the wrong way. At least she kissed him KNOWING that he was broken up with Korra. I don't think this is going to be a love triangle (or square, polygon, whatever it was lat season) again, so yeah. You could also just feel the awkward in the air when she kissed him because he didn't kiss her back. He clearly misses Korra and knows that it's just not right. I mean, that picture of them he was looking at in the beginning of the episode..he doesn't keep it at his desk, he keeps that picture in a pocket of the uniform where is heart is.

      I'm really loving the Triple Threats now! Yeah, they're evil, but they're also hilarious! When Mako told Two Toed Ping he broke up with Korra and then he told Viper (oh, that's his name) and Shady Shin and Viper's all "Yeah, I did too!"

      I like the character development for Bolin, I think he's just letting the fame get to his head, so that'll hopefully change.

      Korra getting amnesia? PERFECT! Now she can learn how to be the Avatar all over again! Her whole life, she's been the Avatar, and now she doesn't know anything. This is a door opener to help her learn how to do her job not just phsyically, but spiritually too. This could also be a personality change too, since Korra is so hot headed and she'll become more calm and understanding of her surroundings. For Makorra fans, think about it. She can fall in love with Mako all over again. She doesn't know who she is and if they were to meet up, he'd probably feel crushed knowing she lost all memory of him. Also, another thing I think was interesting is when she woke up and saw the Fire Sages, she attacked them with airbending. That's not where she comes from. She's a Water Tribe person, unaware of her being the Avatar. You'd think they'd make her waterbend the sages, but no. It's like even though she doesn't know who she is, she used the one most difficult for her to learn.

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    • Nice points^ though I'm not sure we can infer ALL of that from Korra's memory loss. It could be a Jet sort of thing where he had bits and fragments that all come back from time to time. I think it would be cool if she has visions of her own hot-headed actions and she can't recognize herself, doesn't agree with what she did in the past. Oh there's just so many paths this story can take. I'm so amped! Somebody hold me back!

      *Readers take mental notes: watch out for Ty

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    • Ziryerx wrote:
      How does everybody still not hate Mako? So he wouldn't just keep a secret to help Korra, his former girlfriend, because he "doesn't want to lose his job," but he'll go completely behind the chief of police's back just to prove that he is right? How can you not think he is a jerk? Plus he was completely responsible for Asami getting all of her stuff stolen, since it was completely his idea, like what the heck, how much are you guys gonna let him get away with before you see he screwed up big time? I don't even care about the whole Makorra vs. Masami thing, he's just being inconsistent and acting like his job is important when it is convenient for him to do so, but if it interfers with him proving that he is right, then it's no big deal. Really!? 

      I don't quite agree with you. Mako wasn't going to help her because her "plan" was, well, idiotic. She was planning to get people involved in a war that wasn't their business. In fact, she was basically about to start a World War (I was shocked when Iroh II actually agreed with her plan). Mako wasn't acting like he did to keep himself from losing his job, he was acting rationally and what he believed was morally the right thing to do. (Surprisingly, he's been the most rational person in this Book so far.) He does not deserve hate for his actions here.

      Also, with the whole "working with a mafia to prove he was right" was extremely risky and probably not the smartest thing to do. BUT, what else could he do? No one's believing him because they're all prejudiced against the NWT (well, you can't really blame them; if I was in that situation I would blame the NWT too), and the fact that he's a rookie cop, not an experienced detective. (On a side note, I just wanted to add, unlike Korra where she had absolutely no proof when she accused Hiroshi of being an Equalist and had just heard an ambiguous phone call, Mako does have proof and he's picking up clues -- he's not jumping to conclusions like everyone else is. [Also, this is what bothers me about Lin this season -- she listened to Korra's suspicions, but won't listen to Mako's?)] Sure, working with a mafia wasn't the smartest thing to do, but we understand his determination to show people the truth. So, why should he deserve complete hate for this? 

      How in the heck was Mako supposed to know that Asami would lose everything in her warehouse? So, somehow this makes him a jerk and we should hate him for something he and the viewers were not expecting? 

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    • I'm actually pleased with this season's Mako, as he's proven to be sensible, diligent, and stragetic in his actions. I liked the fact that he used his connections from his murky past. It showed that, while he does value the law, he's willing to dirty his hands a bit, if it's the only means by which he can achieve his ends. 'And he's doing so intelligently, rather than recklessly and foolishely. He's being very mature, in deciding not to open a very turbulent chapter with an ex-girlfriend just because he and Korra's relationship is strained at the moment. This is a guy who's finally learned how to keep his emotions in check and whose actions are far more cerebral than anything.                                                                                           

      Bolin, on the other hand, is still being treated with the same frivolity that he was in the first season. Despite getting more screen time, he's done nothing but be Eska's lapdog and engage in tomfoolery with Varrick. Though, there is an oppurtunity for the writers to shed some light on the sibling friction between Bolin and Mako. I'm still waiting for Bolin to find his own way, as the writers have suggested he'd be doing so in this book.

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    • Mako's doing better, that's for sure. I never blamed him for the whole love triangle issue in season 1, but he still wasn't a good character.  In fact, he and Asami seemed to have switched character traits: Mako's the level-headed, take-action got your back guy, while Asami is giving into her emotions (kissing Mako, and thus restarting the shipping wars again).

      That brings me to another point. Why, why, why did Bryke think it was a good idea to bring back Masami? He's obviously Korra's end-game love interest, so this will only restart another love triangle (if they devote another whole episode to romance, so help me), but it may very well shift the hate to Asami. She's seeming to be the trigger in everything bad that's happened in Mako's story: her leading to the sting (yes, Mako's idea, but her company), her very likely restarting more romantic tension issues, and her also possibly becoming a sort of damsel in distress, being under Verrick's influence and completely unaware of his malcontent. 

      But on the flip side, I'm excited as to where Korra's journey will lead. We saw some Fire Sages, so hopeully that means we'll get to see some Fire Nation as well! The amnesia plot is a bit overused, but it can certainly lead to a whole lot more development. It'd be an interesting twist if she never actually regains her memories, but comes to a conclusion about who she is through other means (I'm pretty sure there was a The Batman episode similar to this). 

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    • NinjaRisa wrote:
      Ziryerx wrote:
      How does everybody still not hate Mako? So he wouldn't just keep a secret to help Korra, his former girlfriend, because he "doesn't want to lose his job," but he'll go completely behind the chief of police's back just to prove that he is right? How can you not think he is a jerk? Plus he was completely responsible for Asami getting all of her stuff stolen, since it was completely his idea, like what the heck, how much are you guys gonna let him get away with before you see he screwed up big time? I don't even care about the whole Makorra vs. Masami thing, he's just being inconsistent and acting like his job is important when it is convenient for him to do so, but if it interfers with him proving that he is right, then it's no big deal. Really!? 
      I don't quite agree with you. Mako wasn't going to help her because her "plan" was, well, idiotic. She was planning to get people involved in a war that wasn't their business. In fact, she was basically about to start a World War (I was shocked when Iroh II actually agreed with her plan). Mako wasn't acting like he did to keep himself from losing his job, he was acting rationally and what he believed was morally the right thing to do. (Surprisingly, he's been the most rational person in this Book so far.) He does not deserve hate for his actions here.

      Also, with the whole "working with a mafia to prove he was right" was extremely risky and probably not the smartest thing to do. BUT, what else could he do? No one's believing him because they're all prejudiced against the NWT (well, you can't really blame them; if I was in that situation I would blame the NWT too), and the fact that he's a rookie cop, not an experienced detective. (On a side note, I just wanted to add, unlike Korra where she had absolutely no proof when she accused Hiroshi of being an Equalist and had just heard an ambiguous phone call, Mako does have proof and he's picking up clues -- he's not jumping to conclusions like everyone else is. [Also, this is what bothers me about Lin this season -- she listened to Korra's suspicions, but won't listen to Mako's?)] Sure, working with a mafia wasn't the smartest thing to do, but we understand his determination to show people the truth. So, why should he deserve complete hate for this? 

      How in the heck was Mako supposed to know that Asami would lose everything in her warehouse? So, somehow this makes him a jerk and we should hate him for something he and the viewers were not expecting? 

      Korra was not trying to start a World War, she's trying to prevent the NWT from becoming the next Fire Nation, they already invaded the South, by none of Korra's doing, she is simply trying to get support so that the weaker South is not wiped out. Unless you are saying that those who are weaker do not deserve to exist, then Korra is definitely not in the wrong. Plus, Iroh agreeing to help just goes to show that she was right, because as a trained military officer, he understands the situation and can see that the NWT needs to be stopped from invading the South, whether or not they are responsible for the bombings, that is an entirely different issue: Korra is like "We have to stop the North from invading the South" and he's like "But they didn't bomb the Cultural center." So what? As for Mako knowing what was going to happen, I'm not saying he shouldn've known, but if you make a bad choice, you get a bad result, he should have known not to get involved with the Triads, expecially as a cop that is so "worried about his job."

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    • Ziryerx wrote:

      Unless you are saying that those who are weaker do not deserve to exist, then Korra is definitely not in the wrong.

      Okay, that's putting words in NinjaRisa's mouth that they never said. Yes, it's true Korra wasn't planning to start a World War. But she wasn't thinking about the consequences of her actions (which, in case you can't tell, is a common trait of her), and setting the rest of the world against the NWT would have definiately started something of a world-wide war. And after Iroh's decision, I'd say he's anything but a good general. He may have a strategic mind, but he apparently doesn't have the wisom or forethought it takes to be a good general. Any military action by the United Forces will take with it the other nations, setting them against the North. Any intelligent negotiator knows that would expend a lot of resources for an issue that doesn't necessarily involve them.

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    • I just think we'll have to agree to disagree on Mako then. He's not doing anything that Korra hasn't done, and in fact he's doing it a lot more rationally than she ever did.

      I thought the Nuktuq thing went on far too long. Took up a good four minutes when it should have just been a two minute clip. 

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    • I want to see the President of the United Republic grovel on his hands and knees before Avatar Korra as the dark spirits (which came threw the southern spirit portal in waves and waves) destroy Republic City. 

      Korra standing laughing at the President...  I'M THE AVATAR

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    • ATLALOK wrote:
      I found the episode to be very enjoyable. I laughed so hard with The Adventures of Nuktuk: Hero of the South!

      I kinda liked how the episode was centered around something that WASN'T for Korra. Don't get me wrong, I love Korra, she's an epic Avatar, but we'll get back to her later...

      Varrick being a villain was completely unexpected for me. I love how they made a comic relief character evil in this show! Genius!

      I'm kinda disappointed with Asami though. I'm glad that she's taken on Future Industries and will do anything to keep it running, but geez, she took Mako's words the wrong way. At least she kissed him KNOWING that he was broken up with Korra. I don't think this is going to be a love triangle (or square, polygon, whatever it was lat season) again, so yeah. You could also just feel the awkward in the air when she kissed him because he didn't kiss her back. He clearly misses Korra and knows that it's just not right. I mean, that picture of them he was looking at in the beginning of the episode..he doesn't keep it at his desk, he keeps that picture in a pocket of the uniform where is heart is.

      I'm really loving the Triple Threats now! Yeah, they're evil, but they're also hilarious! When Mako told Two Toed Ping he broke up with Korra and then he told Viper (oh, that's his name) and Shady Shin and Viper's all "Yeah, I did too!"

      I like the character development for Bolin, I think he's just letting the fame get to his head, so that'll hopefully change.

      Korra getting amnesia? PERFECT! Now she can learn how to be the Avatar all over again! Her whole life, she's been the Avatar, and now she doesn't know anything. This is a door opener to help her learn how to do her job not just phsyically, but spiritually too. This could also be a personality change too, since Korra is so hot headed and she'll become more calm and understanding of her surroundings. For Makorra fans, think about it. She can fall in love with Mako all over again. She doesn't know who she is and if they were to meet up, he'd probably feel crushed knowing she lost all memory of him. Also, another thing I think was interesting is when she woke up and saw the Fire Sages, she attacked them with airbending. That's not where she comes from. She's a Water Tribe person, unaware of her being the Avatar. You'd think they'd make her waterbend the sages, but no. It's like even though she doesn't know who she is, she used the one most difficult for her to learn.

      How about I disagree what Asami did wasn't right but she wasn't thinking it was 'heat of the moment' and of gratitude but I agree to n extent ATLEAST Asami did after their break-up rather than what Korra did in BK 1. Nevertheless Screw Masami, Makorra, or Boleska I'm gonna go ship Plotvelopment.

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    • I like the idea of this whole conspiracy. Mako fast becoming my favourite character in the series. The episode once again left us with a lot to think about, looking forward to Beginnings.

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    • Well this episode redeemed Mako a bit in my eyes, him not being a particularly favorite character of mine.

      The episode was great. Nice to see the Triple Threats are still around and with new leadership. Wonder what happened to Zolt. Mako's detective skills come into play quite nicely as the other officers are utterly useless. Asami finally gets center stage in an episode this season which is fine with me. The kiss she gives Mako, doubt it will go anywhere but it was interesting.

      Unalaq is up to something and it can't be good and I think his kids see that. He wasn't too happy to find out that Korra is dead. Whatever it is that's going on I guess we'll find out soon.

      Varrick the mastermind creeped me out with that look in the last few minutes. He's like Obadiah Stane from Iron-man. Mako's going to have to play it smart if he's going to expose him.

      Bolin...man that was hard to watch. He's trying to hard to get the girl who obviously wants nothing to do with him. Wonder what will happen when he finds out about his buddy Varrick.

      Korra losing her memory and in the Fire Nation, unexpected. Next weeks hour special doesn't particularly interest me but I'll give it a shot and see where it takes the season.

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    • AldenHeathcliffe wrote:
      I just think we'll have to agree to disagree on Mako then. 

      Exactly, all we are doing is bringing different persectives to the table. I just wish some more people would realize this.

      On another note, "Okay, that's putting words in NinjaRisa's mouth that they never said." I just thought of it as giving a choice, but I did realize it came off that way after it came out, I recant the statement, but I still think the NWT is most definitely in the wrong.

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    • I really liked the episode, I mean I thought the Masami kiss was a bit unnecessary but I don't think they're bringing the triangle back. I also loved Varrick in this episode much much more, the fact that his personality was a big setup and everything happened the way he expected it to happen really made me like him so much more. Though I do wish that we get what the main issue is for this book now. For book 1 we understood that the main conflict was the equalists, all 3 books of avatar the main conflict was ending the war, but I'm not really sure for Book 2. We got Unalaq who we know nothing about and now Varrick. Kind of all over the place, but the season is still really interesting. Though one thing that I find funny and idiotic at the same time is the tumblr fandumb getting riled up at Bolin the "rapist" for kissing an actress while she was tied up, even though they were fucking acting and she didn't expect it(though she didn't like the kiss).  

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    • "Though one thing that I find funny and idiotic at the same time is the tumblr fandumb getting riled up at Bolin the 'rapist' for kissing an actress while she was tied up, even though they were fucking acting and she didn't expect it(though she didn't like the kiss)."

      Yeah, I think it'd be best to veer away from that subject, as we really don't need the idiocy of Tumblr to plague Avatar Wiki.

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    • I was disappointed to not get any screentime for Tenzin and the airbender kids. Without them, the whole episode seemed rather dull to me. 

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    • I greatly enjoyed the twist with Verrick, I was genuinely suprised. But why didn't Asami instantly realize that he was the one who set them up? I mean he was the only one other than them that knew about the plan.

      What I dont get is, why does the Capitalist always have to be portrayed as a bad guy? From Captain Planet, to James Camerons AVATAR, to the Lorax. The capitalist is always portrayed as a bad guy who only cares for his own benefit. While there is some truth to that, Capitalism has done a lot more good for society than anything else. It's what allowed the US to rise above the rest of the world technologically, it drives progress, has allowed goods to be produced in much more abundance than in any other point in human history.

      But when it comes to movies and TV shows, the Capitalist is always the villain. Why is that the case?

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    • EccentricChild wrote:
      "Though one thing that I find funny and idiotic at the same time is the tumblr fandumb getting riled up at Bolin the 'rapist' for kissing an actress while she was tied up, even though they were fucking acting and she didn't expect it(though she didn't like the kiss)."

      Yeah, I think it'd be best to veer away from that subject, as we really don't need the idiocy of Tumblr to plague Avatar Wiki.

      Looking at everythin on tumblr, to the stupidity and the negativity is really making me wonder how such a place exists

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    • Looks like Mako's on his own now, he failed to stop Varrick from stealing Future Industries, Asami doesn't realize she's been used, Koora's gone because of him, and Bolin is too caught up with being famous.

      Mako's keeping the nature of his breakup a secret from everyone. If Asami finds out Mako told the president and made Kora upset, she would get even angrier at him.

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    • The Tearbender wrote:

      EccentricChild wrote:
      "Though one thing that I find funny and idiotic at the same time is the tumblr fandumb getting riled up at Bolin the 'rapist' for kissing an actress while she was tied up, even though they were fucking acting and she didn't expect it(though she didn't like the kiss)."

      Yeah, I think it'd be best to veer away from that subject, as we really don't need the idiocy of Tumblr to plague Avatar Wiki.

      Looking at everythin on tumblr, to the stupidity and the negativity is really making me wonder how such a place exists

      Because of the rare gem of funny, like this:

      http://avataraang.tumblr.com/

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    • Those Nicki Minaj lyrics were too spot-on.

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    • @Eccentric. Lol

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    • Good. Makorra has turned back into Masami. And the episode ended with a bang with Korra losing her memory and the sages finding her.

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    • Just saw the episode...

      Yooooo, that Masami kiss :D  Man I gotta say though, I am really enjoying Bolin more and more now.  He is becoming way more self assured and that earthbender backbone he was lacking previously is starting to blossom more and more.  I loved how Mako tried to get Bolin to help him but Bolin told him how it was and reminded him how bad he treated him in the ealier episodes.  I don't think this is out of character for Bolin, this is just him finally standing his ground and not being a punk doing what his big brother tells him to do all the time.  I also liked how he just stole that kiss from Ginger haha.  Yea that's my boy Bolin, now THAT'S how a earthbender is suppose to act.  I'm sorry but Bolin was being too much of a punk earlier on.

      As for Mako, he has really become tolerable for me this season so far.  He was one of the only people actually using his brain for the entire season.  But damn....VARRICK!! I didn't think much of him at first but wow I've changed my mind!  Varrick is a lot more shrewed than I initially gave him credit for and that plan was brilliantly executed over Asami.  Now I'm wondering how he is going to get taken down by the team.  I'm kind of hoping that Bolin is the one that ends up beating him towards the end though.  And Korra losing her memory? Now that is going to be interesting, now she won't be as annoying to me like she has been since the entire thing started.  I think it's a good chance for her to gain some spiritual growth.

      As for Lin, she is really becoming less likeable for me now unfortunately.  I mean she just seems so out of character this season.  She won't listen to anything Mako is telling her, granted a lot of people are doing that, but still for Lin to be part of that list is unnerving. She should know that Mako is to be trusted and the guy even has some evidence that back up his leads but she so far has basically told him to screw off in practically every one of their encounters.  I hope she wises up by the end of the season.

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    • RaidenRadio wrote: I greatly enjoyed the twist with Verrick, I was genuinely suprised. But why didn't Asami instantly realize that he was the one who set them up? I mean he was the only one other than them that knew about the plan.

      What I dont get is, why does the Capitalist always have to be portrayed as a bad guy? From Captain Planet, to James Camerons AVATAR, to the Lorax. The capitalist is always portrayed as a bad guy who only cares for his own benefit. While there is some truth to that, Capitalism has done a lot more good for society than anything else. It's what allowed the US to rise above the rest of the world technologically, it drives progress, has allowed goods to be produced in much more abundance than in any other point in human history.

      But when it comes to movies and TV shows, the Capitalist is always the villain. Why is that the case?

      Well capitalism in the U.S. did almost wipe out the buffalo and displaced millions of Native Americans, confiscating their land for profit and killing countless innocence. The Panama Canal fiasco, Indian Wars, Spanish American war and just about every subsequent war til now. The U.S is essentially built on Evil Capitalism. America alone makes enough food to feed the entire world but chooses not to because it wouldn't make them any money. They pay people not to grow food. The same goes for medicine, they could make cures for most of the illnesses people suffer through but don't because they can make so much money through people paying for prescriptions and getting donations for "research".

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    • Swampbender55 wrote:

      Unalaq is up to something and it can't be good and I think his kids see that. He wasn't too happy to find out that Korra is dead. Whatever it is that's going on I guess we'll find out soon.

      Perhaps he wants to get rid of the Avatar spirit and when he found Korra was dead and was out of his grip he was still mad

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    • Pheonixking3000 wrote:
      Just saw the episode...

      Yooooo, that Masami kiss :D  Man I gotta say though, I am really enjoying Bolin more and more now.  He is becoming way more self assured and that earthbender backbone he was lacking previously is starting to blossom more and more.  I loved how Mako tried to get Bolin to help him but Bolin told him how it was and reminded him how bad he treated him in the ealier episodes.  I don't think this is out of character for Bolin, this is just him finally standing his ground and not being a punk doing what his big brother tells him to do all the time.  I also liked how he just stole that kiss from Ginger haha.  Yea that's my boy Bolin, now THAT'S how a earthbender is suppose to act.  I'm sorry but Bolin was being too much of a punk earlier on.

      As for Mako, he has really become tolerable for me this season so far.  He was one of the only people actually using his brain for the entire season.  But damn....VARRICK!! I didn't think much of him at first but wow I've changed my mind!  Varrick is a lot more shrewed than I initially gave him credit for and that plan was brilliantly executed over Asami.  Now I'm wondering how he is going to get taken down by the team.  I'm kind of hoping that Bolin is the one that ends up beating him towards the end though.  And Korra losing her memory? Now that is going to be interesting, now she won't be as annoying to me like she has been since the entire thing started.  I think it's a good chance for her to gain some spiritual growth.

      As for Lin, she is really becoming less likeable for me now unfortunately.  I mean she just seems so out of character this season.  She won't listen to anything Mako is telling her, granted a lot of people are doing that, but still for Lin to be part of that list is unnerving. She should know that Mako is to be trusted and the guy even has some evidence that back up his leads but she so far has basically told him to screw off in practically every one of their encounters.  I hope she wises up by the end of the season.


      Looking at the episode though, I did find it interesting that Lin didn't really dismiss the Mako's idea, but was getting irritated after the whole argument between Mako and the two cops, with Varrick and Asami coming in when they aren't even part of the police. Personally while I do find it odd that she did react like that, I just think the enormous amount of pressure that she's put under by the president is what's causing her to act this way. 

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    • Swampbender55 wrote:

      RaidenRadio wrote: I greatly enjoyed the twist with Verrick, I was genuinely suprised. But why didn't Asami instantly realize that he was the one who set them up? I mean he was the only one other than them that knew about the plan.

      What I dont get is, why does the Capitalist always have to be portrayed as a bad guy? From Captain Planet, to James Camerons AVATAR, to the Lorax. The capitalist is always portrayed as a bad guy who only cares for his own benefit. While there is some truth to that, Capitalism has done a lot more good for society than anything else. It's what allowed the US to rise above the rest of the world technologically, it drives progress, has allowed goods to be produced in much more abundance than in any other point in human history.

      But when it comes to movies and TV shows, the Capitalist is always the villain. Why is that the case?

      Well capitalism in the U.S. did almost wipe out the buffalo and displaced millions of Native Americans, confiscating their land for profit and killing countless innocence. The Panama Canal fiasco, Indian Wars, Spanish American war and just about every subsequent war til now. The U.S is essentially built on Evil Capitalism. America alone makes enough food to feed the entire world but chooses not to because it wouldn't make them any money. They pay people not to grow food. The same goes for medicine, they could make cures for most of the illnesses people suffer through but don't because they can make so much money through people paying for prescriptions and getting donations for "research".

      Those examples you use don't work particularly well. Buffalo hunting was a sport, not something people did for money. Displacement of Native Americans and interventions in South America have a little more to do with imperialism than capitalism. Same with the Indian Wars and Spanish-American War. Supposing we can grow enough for everyone in the US, you still have to get it to the people which can be a logistical nightmare, especially when most people in the world live upwards of 3000 miles from America. Agricultural subsidies are used to drive down prices, not increase the profit margins of the farmers. You can make a medicine to cure any disease, sure, but that's no guarantee it doesn't cause some horrific side-effects.

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    • Ginger is MEAN

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    • We do not know how every disease works, much less can we make a cure for all of them, even if we ignored side-effects completely. You really think that medicine is that easy?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuron

      This is just a basic overview of how nerve cells communicate. This is why we do "research." There is not 1 company that controls all of the medical research.

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    • Swampbender55 wrote:

      RaidenRadio wrote: I greatly enjoyed the twist with Verrick, I was genuinely suprised. But why didn't Asami instantly realize that he was the one who set them up? I mean he was the only one other than them that knew about the plan.

      What I dont get is, why does the Capitalist always have to be portrayed as a bad guy? From Captain Planet, to James Camerons AVATAR, to the Lorax. The capitalist is always portrayed as a bad guy who only cares for his own benefit. While there is some truth to that, Capitalism has done a lot more good for society than anything else. It's what allowed the US to rise above the rest of the world technologically, it drives progress, has allowed goods to be produced in much more abundance than in any other point in human history.

      But when it comes to movies and TV shows, the Capitalist is always the villain. Why is that the case?

      Well capitalism in the U.S. did almost wipe out the buffalo and displaced millions of Native Americans, confiscating their land for profit and killing countless innocence. The Panama Canal fiasco, Indian Wars, Spanish American war and just about every subsequent war til now. The U.S is essentially built on Evil Capitalism. America alone makes enough food to feed the entire world but chooses not to because it wouldn't make them any money. They pay people not to grow food. The same goes for medicine, they could make cures for most of the illnesses people suffer through but don't because they can make so much money through people paying for prescriptions and getting donations for "research".

      An evil truth indeed. I find it sad how we have to rely on private companies to do EVERYTHING for us. What's also sad is that we now have to rely on private companies to protect us (Lifelock and the whole "government tracks us over the web" fiasco).

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    • As for Lin, I honestly don't blame her "I don't know who bombed the cultural center.....but I saw this one guy with this remote that i have no idea what does!"

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    • How many things could a remote control possibly go to under the circumstances? This is Avatar's equivalent of the 1920's. Explosives are pretty much the only thing that had remote controls for safety reasons.

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    • @Wheelmaster Buffalo hunting was largely commercialized. They were prized for their coats and then they let the meat go to waste. Heck, they even found a way to make money off the bones. the railroad companies wanted them eliminated as well because they sometimes blocked and delayed trains. The canal was a business deal in all but name. The fact that it could be used militarily was just one of the main reasons it was backed by the government. You think it would be hard to get the food where it needs to be. Humanitarian groups and public and private funds are all to ready to help with transport.

      @Neo Bahamut I'm not saying they have a cure for every disease, but they do have cures for quite a few. I know people who work in the medical field and they confirmed that it's all about money. Businesses wait till they can make the most profit off a product then release it to the public.

      There was a man who created a engine that would optimize fuel efficiency. What happened when big business found out? They paid him not to make it and held on to the blue prints.

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    • AvatarIonathan wrote: As for Lin, I honestly don't blame her "I don't know who bombed the cultural center.....but I saw this one guy with this remote that i have no idea what does!"

      Brilliant, thank you. She also already told him that he's not a detective, & should be giving it to other officers.

      Edit: It was established in this episode that remote detonation is a relatively recent invention. [citation needed] on the "medical field" stuff. Of course drug manufacturing companies do what they can to maximize their profits. That's a very different thing from "most illnesses can be cured & it's common knowledge."

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    • Swampbender55 wrote:
      @Wheelmaster

      Buffalo hunting was largely commercialized. They were prized for their coats and then they let the meat go to waste. Heck, they even found a way to make money off the bones. the railroad companies wanted them eliminated as well because they sometimes blocked and delayed trains. The canal was a business deal in all but name. The fact that it could be used militarily was just one of the main reasons it was backed by the government. You think it would be hard to get the food where it needs to be. Humanitarian groups and public and private funds are all to ready to help with transport.

      By that point, we had already annihilated a lot of Native Americans in order to take their land because it was thought that it was meant to be ours. We also we're hunting bison in order to starve plain indians. From what I know, the money from bison coats and bones was sort of an added bonus. I doubt that there is enough money in the US to spread food to 6 billion people across an area 10 times bigger than the US, including the tallest mountains in the world, giant deserts, dense jungle, nearly perpetually frozen forests, and regions that are frequently in civil war. Also the US isn't really big enough to feed the entire world. A good 1/3 of the US can't really grow much of anything. As I understand it, our excursions into Central and South America had more to do with imperialism and asserting our dominance in the New World, which can be tied to capitalism but doesn't have to be.

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    • I don't know if the US "could feed everyone in the world," but industrialized farming is remarkably poor at getting food to poor areas, relative to the resources at its disposal.

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    • Soooooooo...the Sting...yeah, just gotta say, since it definitely did not get enough attention, FIRE DAGGER!! Zuko style like a boss! EPIC!

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    • Just watched  the episode a few minutes before I posted this.

      Want to break Varrick in freakin TWO! That way I can root for half of him and kill the other half. On the one hand that was admirably devious and quite frankly rather brilliantly done, on the other he's playing my favorite character like a violin and I know how hard Asami's going to take this betrayal which is going to be almost as heart breaking for me as watching Azula's mental breakdown in TLA. I was ready to jump dimensions, give Asami a much needed hug and then run down Varrick to snap his neck when Asami found that warehouse cleaned out.

      Want to kick Bolin's rear so hard it lands level with his ears. If he were my brother, I would have gone considerably further than scalding his butt. I would have roasted his tail and then chewed him up one side and down the other, and stormed out to leave him sitting there feeling like a piece of charbroiled s***.

      Mako is now officially tied with Asami as my favorite member of the I'm going to say now DEFUNCT team avatar. I don't even hardly care about the WTCW any more, I want to find out what happens to Asami and Mako. I kinda wanna know what Unalaq's up to, 'cause he did look pretty dang cool walking out of the spirit portal, but he has SO taken a backseat to Varrick.

      Will be very interested to see what delightful havoc amnesia plays with Korra's personality.

      But you know what's going to make steam utterly roil out my ears? I want it noted right NOW that I am calling this. Mako is going to find all the evidence he needs to bring the entire freaking world down around Varrick's ears, but Varrick's going to catch him, probably right outside the police station, if I had to guess, and point out to him how well Bolin and Asami are doing now that they're working with him, and just how bad it's going to be for them if Varrick's company crumbles because they'll be caught in the avalanche. So of course Mako won't be able to bust him without crushing his friends in the process. I am going to be so furious when this happens and at the same time I'm going to be acknowledging him as a truly brilliant villain.

      By the way, Varrick, that was an AWESOME villain face, you should totally use it when you do your big reveal.

      And yes, I say season 1's team avatar is at least temporarily defunct. Korra is on the other side of the world unable to even remember her own name, Bolin has pretty much abandoned his friends, Tenzin is on vacation and Mako and Asami are busy going toe to toe with the best villain this show's had since (and possibly including) Azula, who Asami, Bolin and Korra don't even know IS a villain.

      I have three words which sum up this entire post: SEASON. TWO. ROCKS!

      I gotta tell you, I was skeptical after watching the first season, but now I'm all in. Let's go, I  wanna see how this goes down!

      Ooh and one more thing: My prediction for the end: Unalaq will lose control of the dark spirits which Desna and Eska seemed to insinuate he was controlling, they'll start prepping for war, and Team Avatar will reunite (minus Korra although she's expected to arrive soon), stronger than ever for their struggles, and bring the entire world down on the army of bloodthirsty spirits emerging from the portal, and it's going to be shaping up to be the battle of Avatar millenium, and then Korra's going to show up, go avatar state, and do whatever Wan did to resolve the spirit/human wars way back in the day. Afterwards there will be a "yay we did it!" moment, and we'll see Varrick off in the distance watching through a telescope or binoculars and make some comment that'll leave us bouncing up and down impatient for Book 3.

      Even if I'm right, and I have already guessed how this chapter ends, I'm still in for the ride, buckle up kiddies, it's gonna be wild one! [laughs maniacally while logging off]

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    • I still find it both funny and aggravating that Asami was so distraught over loosing her company this whole season, and rightfully so, only to be all smiles and sunshine... when she lost her company to Varrick.  Seriously, I just kept thinking to myself during that whole scene "Um, sweetie, you do realize you just lost your company anyways, don't you?"  I would have been much more invested in the scene if it looked like Asami just realized what had happened, realized that she had been played, and has also realized that she also has no other option other than to sell her company away anyways.  That would have been heartbreaking and rather dark.  Instead, she seems blissfully unaware that it's even happened.

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    • I felt a little weird toward this season at first, but it's definitely getting better. But I will focus on just this episode. I "shipped" Mako and Korra at first because the first season ended really nice with the two of them, but I don't know any more. I was turned off by Mako's indecisiveness between Korra and Asami and shallowness of even being involved with Asami. Sure, she's nice but let's face it.. Mako only went out with her out of infatuation, that's why he made up his mind for Korra in the end because he truly loves her. And in this episode I couldn't believe Asami did what she did. She totally took advantage of Mako and Korra breaking up by kissing him. And sure people can say "well Korra kissed Mako when he and Asami were going out" blah blah blah but still.. not only do you NOT kiss your ex-boyfriend when they moved on already, but you don't kiss them shortly after they've broken up with someone (especially when they're you're friend).. that's just.. SO wrong. So I'm disliking Asami more and more.. She just irritates me. I can't believe the love triangle in this season, lol. It's driving me nuts. But it's certainly expected since the characters are much more mature than in ATLA. It's hard to believe the characters in Korra are only like 17/18 year's old. 

      I like that Varrick is the bad guy. It's going to be an interesting twist. Well, is he the bad guy? I mean it's wrong that he's making the North look like they're causing problems, but maybe it's his way of getting the President involved to support the South. But he's looking at it more from a business standpoint. That's why he's using Bolin to get people to support the South and to support the war effort. 

      I wanted to point something out. I thought it was kind of a stupid decision on Mako's part to go to the Triple Threats for help. I mean, what was he expecting to happen? Why would he and Asami promise anything to the Triple Threats, knowing that they're going to turn around and use the mechatanks Asami promised them to cause crime and havoc in Republic City? Like, it's expected to turn around and bite them in the butt. 

      And I dislike how Bolin is being pulled into the entertainment biz, lol. It's not like him to get a big head and ditch Mako when he needed him. 

      And when we finally saw Korra I was like "WHOO!" But I feel bad that she has amnesia!! OH NO! :( Does that mean she even forgot people she knew and loved? Does that mean she can't access the Avatar state? Soooo many questions! 

      I wish Korra and Mako would just be done with each other, but I have a feeling Mako still has feelings for Korra (despite being kissed by Asami) and will try to save her/look for her/help her regain her memory, or something.

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    • @Chi. The poor girl's guard and suspicion wasn't up at the time considering the fact that the girl is trying to save what's left of her family after her's father helped terroists take over the city, over throw and assist de-bending their government while killing God knows how many casualties in the crossfire and her mother gone forever. Asami is yes slightly naieve but the girl was in a Despair Event Horizion she was desprate to keep what was left of her family alive she really can't be blamed by much (Did you hear the hopelessness in her voice...It was heartbreaking.) 

      She was so estatic that Varrick bought her out and she seemed too happy for Mako to ruin it for her. Desepration can drive people in alot of ways my friend. 

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    • I just cought up with the show and been wondering... for a show about spirits, there has been very little interaction between Korra and the Spirit world..... as for the Sting,

      *SPOLIER ALERT* I think Varrick isn't who he seems to be and may be much more dangerous than we think right now, either just a man looking to make money on war or possible a bigger antaganist behind the series...

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    • NinjaRisa wrote:
      So, Korra has amnesia ... Completely unexpected, but very interesting. While I am incredibly curious as to how and why she got amnesia, I wonder what purpose it will serve. I mean, so far she's been stubborn and rash, so will her having amnesia help her to mature or ...? Don't get me wrong, I love the whole amnesia thing, but I do wonder where the creators are going with this.

      This was a great episode overall. :)

      I don't know if someone already wrote this on the thread (TL;DR), but I want to say something about it. In fact, it is very logical she got amnesia (despite the fact that I DIDN'T SAW IT COMING!)

      When she was under water, she could easily run out of oxygen. People who couldn't breath for a few minutes often have amnesia too, so that's how I think it happened. She drowned for a few minutes, and returned to the world of the living shortly after, only to have some brain damage.

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    • Swords men wrote: I just cought up with the show and been wondering... for a show about spirits, there has been very little interaction between Korra and the Spirit world..... as for the Sting, *SPOLIER ALERT* I think Varrick isn't who he seems to be and may be much more dangerous than we think right now, either just a man looking to make money on war or possible a bigger antaganist behind the series...


      Maybe Varrick is possessed by a dark spirit... That would be awesome.

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    • O.o

      Varrick possessed by a dark spirit making him villainous. I can't decide if I want that to happen or not. On the one hand it would be awesome if Spirits could do that stuff, then we could have these dark spirits be the baddies for the entire rest of series (come on, you would NEVER run out) and it would be awesome to see Varrick get busted and bust out with some badass supernatural spirit powers.

      On the other hand, Varrick is the first truly non-bending villain we've had, and with only one episode of him being confirmed as a villain, he has shot to the top of my Avatar Villains List and tied with Azula for #1. Call me an Equalist, but Varrick...[1]

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    • NinjaRisa wrote:

      I don't quite agree with you. Mako wasn't going to help her because her "plan" was, well, idiotic. She was planning to get people involved in a war that wasn't their business. In fact, she was basically about to start a World War (I was shocked when Iroh II actually agreed with her plan). Mako wasn't acting like he did to keep himself from losing his job, he was acting rationally and what he believed was morally the right thing to do. (Surprisingly, he's been the most rational person in this Book so far.) He does not deserve hate for his actions here.

      Also, with the whole "working with a mafia to prove he was right" was extremely risky and probably not the smartest thing to do. BUT, what else could he do? No one's believing him because they're all prejudiced against the NWT (well, you can't really blame them; if I was in that situation I would blame the NWT too), and the fact that he's a rookie cop, not an experienced detective. (On a side note, I just wanted to add, unlike Korra where she had absolutely no proof when she accused Hiroshi of being an Equalist and had just heard an ambiguous phone call, Mako does have proof and he's picking up clues -- he's not jumping to conclusions like everyone else is. [Also, this is what bothers me about Lin this season -- she listened to Korra's suspicions, but won't listen to Mako's?)] Sure, working with a mafia wasn't the smartest thing to do, but we understand his determination to show people the truth. So, why should he deserve complete hate for this? 

      How in the heck was Mako supposed to know that Asami would lose everything in her warehouse? So, somehow this makes him a jerk and we should hate him for something he and the viewers were not expecting? 

      The conflict between the two Water Tribes is something that concerns Republic City, that was one of the whole entire reasons for its founding...to prevent conflicts that could develop into another situation as bad as the Hundred Year War. It's meant to serve as neutral ground and/or a neutral party in negotiating between two or more of the nations when they have conflict, or if need be to step in militarily. That's why the URN even has an army in the first place, to serve as peace-keeping forces around the world and to help end threats that could develop into another war or conflict as bad as the Hundred Year War. The Northern Water Tribe initiating a hostile takeover and invasion of the South led by a usurper is very much the business of the URN, especially when Uanalaq has not been shy about making comments about spreading to the rest of the world as well. Raiko is pretty much refusing to do his job as the leader of the URN. If the Avatar is going around trying to raise an army, then things are already well past the point of negotiations, and you either decide to ignore the problem (which is part of what cause the Hundred Year War in the first place, ignoring the problem) like Raiko is doing, or you do the right thing and fight back against the problem. The whole Northern Water Tribe isn't the problem, only Unalaq, and any fighting only needs to go on long enough to apprehend him.

      Mako's plan is something that very much deserves to be pointed out and called out, whether it was intentional or not on Bryke's part, it's very hypocritical of Mako to be all for going behind Lin's back with a sting operation, and then in "Peacekeepers" ratting Korra out for doing pretty much the same thing when she was trying to get the URN's military forces out there and actually doing their job as peacekeepers. Iroh II agreed with Korra's plan because he knows his job and knows that fighting Unalaq is the right course of action and Raiko is in the wrong for refusing to help end the conflict.

      I agree with you about Mako's plan to try and catch those responsible for attacking Future Industries shipments, I have no problem with Mako trying to work with the Triple Threats, it's not the best solution or necessarily very smart, but it was the only one available....just like what Korah and Iroh II were planning. Sometimes what seems like the not very smart thing or the solution that isn't the best is the one that needs to be done. And I definitely agree with you about Lin and how she's handling Mako...it doesn't make sense for what we observed about her character in the first season. And as you pointed out, her agreeing to investigate Hiroshi on Korra's small amount of evidence and just a hunch....whilst practically throwing Mako out on his butt and chewing him out when he comes to her with the same...and he actually has better evidence. He may be a rookie cop on the force, but Lin's worked with him before and should know what he's like. It'd be one thing if she was simply scolding him for interrupting what she was doing or interrupting important meetings or questionings....but completely ignoring him? That doesn't feel like Lin or right at all.

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    • If Lin pretends it's not happening then it can continue to happen. If she acknowledges that Mako worked with the Triple Threats then she would probably have to kick him off the force.

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    • I don't know about you guys, but I really love Varrick being a villain. During the first few episodes I had a feeling he was going to be bad, but I quickly dismissed it because he was really funny and entertaining. And then this episode is just...

      D-AANG! He had the most smug/sly expression on his face I've seen in a looong while and it was awesome XD.

      Also, does anyone else kind of feel like Korra's amnesia is more connected to spiritual factors, rather than mental/physical ones? I mean, she was dragged under by a spirit, she washed up on an island that is most likely spiritual seeing as there are Fire Sages there, and this Book is called Spirits.
      I wonder if part of her spirit is in the Spirit World and some left in her body; leaving her disconnected, and just not whole in general. I mean, she can still bend... but it might have just be instinctual bending. (like, she was just shocked at seeing the sages.) Then maybe the other part of her has to reconnect with the Avatar Spirit (Like when Aang had to reconnect with some of his passed lives after being shot by Azula) in order to go back to being whole.

      And then that's where Wan comes in.

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    • this seems likely. Also who else thinks she's going to come out the other side of this not just a better Avatar but a better person on the whole?

      And rock on Villain Varrick!

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    • Cackling Shadow wrote: this seems likely. Also who else thinks she's going to come out the other side of this not just a better Avatar but a better person on the whole?

      And rock on Villain Varrick!

      Better person? Could you elaborate please?

      Was I the only one creeped out by Varrick's smile and cold looking demeanor? I'm a bit sad he's a villain, but I honestly never saw that coming.

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    • No it was a very hair raising expression, if you see that look on somebody's face in real life, you should be afraid. Be very, VERY afraid. But I was too busy cheering the arrival of a brilliant villain and resisting the urge to jump dimensions to kick his butt for playing Asami like that to be creeped out. (paradoxical, I know.)

      As to how I think Korra could be a better person, well she's been on lockdown and told all about how incredibly important she is her entire life, and I think she has a bit of a swelled head and a short nasty temper which I would like to see alleviated. Amnesia might just cure that and help her get past the psychological issues/quirks arising from being hidden away from the world for so long. Long story short: I want to see a better temper and less self centeredness. Confidence is good except when in blinding excess, and excess pride is a vice for a reason.

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    • I wonder how Varrick will top that episode because I can't wait to see what else he has in store when the civil war hits full swing. Great move by the writers, I was actually rooting for him before this episode.

      I get what you're saying, but wouldn't that ostensibly change her whole character? Or do you mean she'll work past it with help during the hour special?

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    • Stolen Mecha-Tanks...

      Dark Spirits rampaging in the South...

      Mecha-Tanks vs. Dark Spirits!!!

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    • I don't want to see Korra's character be completely changed, but I wouldn't mind seeing something like what we saw with Zuko going from angry (although admittedly well intentioned from where he stood at the time) jerk to confident level headed firebending master happen with Korra going from a cocky superpowerful hot-head to a calm, decisive and effective avatar.

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    • Well, whatever that's going to happen, we probably won't see it in the next episode, but maybe the episode thereafter. We just have to wait two weeks (I think I'm dying from impatience at the moment).

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    • Aren't we all?

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    • Friday has to get here already!!!!!!!

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    • Indeed.

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    • Cackling Shadow wrote:
      I don't want to see Korra's character be completely changed, but I wouldn't mind seeing something like what we saw with Zuko going from angry (although admittedly well intentioned from where he stood at the time) jerk to confident level headed firebending master happen with Korra going from a cocky superpowerful hot-head to a calm, decisive and effective avatar.

      That's what I want more than anything to happen to Korra.  

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    • Hmmm, Varrick is a villain; expected that one. Bolin still doing the acting thing; don't really care for that one. Korra's memories erased.....was NOT expecting that one! What the hell? And who were those guys who found her? What is going on?

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    • Fire Sages.

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    • Fire Sages.

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    • @Shadow Honestly, if you ask me, then I really don't see what changes Zuko made in personality --- He was still hot headed, ill tempered, and cocky, which kind of led to his downfall against Azula during Sozin's Comet, imho haha.

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    • But, indeed, a little change in personality would be nice, since Korra has been rather bitchy and over the top lately -_-

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    • Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Fire Sages.

      Oh that's what I thought. Does that mean we'll get to see Zuko and family soon?

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    • QueenCeline wrote:

      Neo Bahamut wrote:
      Fire Sages.

      Oh that's what I thought. Does that mean we'll get to see Zuko and family soon?

      They did mention him. And Iroh II said that Korra should meet with his mother if she needed help for the Southern Water Tribe.

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    • I really want to see Iroh's mother, like PLEEEEEEEEASE!

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    • I want to see the Fire Nation.

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    • I don't care to see Zuko at all, but his mother yesssss :D

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    • Yes. Yes. and Yes. Want to see Zuko's daughter/Iroh's mother. Want to see how the Fire Nation has changed. Would kinda like to see if Old Zuko looks and acts like Uncle Iroh because that would be insanely funny.

      For my longshots I want to know if Azula's still around because I'm just really curious to know what happened to her, and I don't know about the rest of you, but I will flip my freaking lid if Uncle Iroh is still alive (Pathik can live to be 150, I think Iroh should be able to pull 130). I know it's unlikely, but how cool would it be?

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    • Yesssss. Eh, I don't want a repeat of anyone --- Especially if old Katara was so boring :/ And Katara was one of my favorites... Zuko: the opposite -_-

      YES ME TOO! AZULA HAS BEEN A BIG SUBJECT FOR ME LATELY!

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    • I think Korra's amnesia is going to make Mako fall in love with her again. Like she won't recognize him, and he's going to do everything in his power to make her remember him, even kissing her. I can totally see that happening. That seems like too much dedication to the love triangle thing, but I can see a little scene where that happens. Who knows.. 

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