Template talk:AvatarLocations

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I ask that you add data but do not change the Format of the Template. Ask me to do that and I will decide whether it is worth changing. Thank You. Zero 12:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
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Contents 1 Changes in Format 2 Colors 3 Whale Tail Island 4 Northern Air Temple 4.1 Northern Air Temple (cont.) 5 Hu Xin provinces 6 Pirate Ship Boutique

[edit] Changes in Format

Sooo. Any Ideas for Particular Changes in Format? Dont be shy. Zero 12:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

The only change I can think of is suited only for the Avatar universe template, which would be changing it so we can open and close the tabs. Omnibender 19:24, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry dont know how to do that if you do then tell me so i can do it.Zero 20:10, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I wish I knew. Maybe you can see how it is in a Wikipedia page, I remember that the Avatar page had one of those for Nick cartoons. Omnibender 20:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I tried using that format in the Avatar1 Template when I made it. For some reason that format does'nt work on wikia. And I can't change the whole thing now. It would ruin everything. But thanks anyway. And thanks for the Addings too.Zero 20:45, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Whats wrong with this format? Felinoel 01:27, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Nothing much. The only thing wrong with this format is that it is non-collapsable. Thus taking up too much place on the pages. Zero 08:51, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, collapsability would be a good function as it does make certain pages overly large... Felinoel 14:30, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh Gee, you think? Well I Love to kow how to do it but I dont. Zero 07:28, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Yup I sure to, but sadly I am in the same boat, darn Felinoel 05:47, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Colors

See: Help:Colors.

[edit] Whale Tail Island

Look, Zero, Whale Tail Island is Air Nomad territory, please stop changing it to Earth Kingdom or I will report you for vandalism Felinoel 22:32, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Dude I made this page. It may be colored white but the Air Nomads did not Live there. Also by the way I dont Have to report you for vandalism. Zero 06:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I repeat: The Air Nomads Never Lived There. So the Earth Kingdom moved there. The Air Nomads never wanted it. they were perfectly happy with their Sky and the Air temples alone. Zero 06:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Regardless of who made the page, you can't put wrong information on it, if I made a page called Aang's parents and just started putting some random stuff on there about unknown people, does that make it right because I made the page? Felinoel 06:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

The Air Nomads were nomads, who says they lived in the temples? I bet most of them lived all over the world, only their government leaders actually lived in the temples full-time because that was their job, besides you can't know for sure no Air Nomads never even lived on Whale Tail Island Felinoel 06:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

You think Wrong they did not live all over the world otherwise Sozin wouldnt have succeded. The Creators have stated that Aang IS the Last Airbender(Much as I Hate to say it, also see airbender talk or Sozin's Comet Part One Talk for further details), they also stated that while they did went for trips they did not live else where. Also, Whale Tail Island has been assimulated by the Earth Kingdonm and has no deep ties to the Air Nomads. While the Northern Air Temple has been taken over by earth kingdom refugees it still holds a deep connection to the Air Nomads. Can you say the same about Whale Tail Island. Okay. Fine If you dont like it that much I'll make a part of the Temple for Unsure territories just for you. Are you happy now? Zero 07:08, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Well I haven't had time to watch the last four episodes yet, I recorded them but my brother wants to watch it too so I have to wait for him, so I have been steering clear of the spoiler pages for now as best I could, but all maps through the series have shown Whale Tail Island as Air Nomad territoy, even the maps from the Fire Nation, if the Earth Kingdom took it wouldn't they show that in a map or two? Felinoel 07:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

There is proof in there name NOMAD not monk ~ Daniel 07:11, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Yea no one seems to catch that nomad part for some reason? odd... Felinoel 07:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

LOL thats true so what has been up with you ~ Daniel 07:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Maps do not change autmatically with time. this is not the WWW we are talking about but a piece of parchment. It stays the same. By the way its done. Now if you will Please agree with the compromise. By the way this discussion has already been taken place with another member. and I said to him that we have to see the past as well as keep in mind the future when we assign places. not just colors on a map. Zero 07:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

If it has nothing to do with the color on the map then how do we know which nation each location belongs to ~ Daniel 07:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Its not the fact that a single map hasn't changed magically, its the fact that every map shown has it like that

So to you a map's key is useless? Felinoel 07:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Zero face it you are wrong ~ Daniel 07:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Like I said. The Air Nomads only laid claim to the temples. Nothing else not even the ground around it. The Whale Tail Island has no real ties to the Air Nomads. Sad that you cant agree on a compromise, can you take a look at the Template again. Zero 07:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Where are you getting this information? Besides the page itself for it has an Earth Kingdom border, like Guru Pathik I think it should be changed to a neutral purple Felinoel 07:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Look its fine its up to you to ~ Daniel 07:42, 21 July 2008 (UTC) ps i think nutrel is good

good purple it is. See a compromise is better than argueing over and over. Zero 07:44, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Ummm right, first of all with Uncertain Locations' border being purple its text would need to be white to be able to be seen, second of all I was talking about the Earth Kingdom city border... Felinoel 07:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Dude I'm an Admin. I was the one who made the first Nav Templates on this wikia. Way ahead of ya. And by the way Earth Kingdom color is green not purple. Uncertain/Neutral Locations are purple.Zero 07:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

How many times must I say this, it doesn't matter who made the article, wrong information is still wrong. And how many times must I say this, the article's border is Earth Kingdom

http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Whale_Tail_Island

Felinoel 09:45, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Give it up Zero your wrong. It is still any Air Nomad Territory. It was never once stated now to be a part of the Earth Kingdom. In fact, the Fire Navy was stationed there recently. The nomads have been gone for a century. If the other nations wanted their land they had plenty of time to do it. It does not take 100 years to update a freaking map of the world. Also, the creators made this map, meaning these are the most recent boundaries, it is an Air Nomad territory, simple as that.

--8th Mizukage 07:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

At least I'm willing to compromis unlike some people. The decision has been made now leave it be!!!! Zero 07:32, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

8th Mizukage it was decided we arn't changing ~ Daniel 08:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

And don't remove the Spirit Locations either. Omnibender 14:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm only agreeing not to change it because I don't want to get reported. However, all evidence clearly points to it being an air Nomad territory. Zero, your the only problem. You can't accept that it is an Air Nomad territory besides all the evidence pointing to it.

--8th Mizukage 04:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

And I didn't mean to remove the Spirit World locations, I didn't realize that at first.

--8th Mizukage 04:11, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

As I said before it is still listed as an Earth Kingdom city in the article itself Felinoel 05:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

In the Desert Sokka mentioned that their map was dated. and by the way you have to see beyond maps and to what actually is there. Its a neutral territory now. Please lets end this useless discussion. Zero 05:40, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

And yet as I keep repeating every map throughout the series shows Whale Tail Island as Air Nomad territory Felinoel 05:47, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

(Big Sigh) Zero 06:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, the creators created the map that way despite the Air Nomads being gone.

--8th Mizukage 07:37, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

LOOK THE DISSION WAS MADE NOW CAN WE PLEASE STOP ARRGUING OVER IT ~ Daniel 07:59, 24 July 2008 (UTC) (ps: sorry for using caps i am just trying to make a point)

No it wasn't, I was talking about it's placement on the template as well as its key colored border on the article itself that labels it an Earth Kingdom city and you ignored half of what I said Felinoel 17:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

That does it. ENOUGH!!! (Deep calming breaths) Listen all you've got is one reason, the map, whereas I have many that I've already stated, including the air nomad living places, ties, history and allegances. But I believe in compromises so I made an Uncertain/Neutral Locations section just so we could stop this silly nonsense. I'm tired of this discussion. The template stays as it is and any more discussion is fruitless. Why cant you just agree to the compromise and be done with it? Oh wait, maybe its just your stubborness. The key to being a good admin is compromise. You just cant go around forcing things on people. And no one made any objections before you guys came along. I say let it go. Zero 05:15, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

You know what I am tired of? You not actually reading my posts, how many times must I say I am not talking about the template anymore? Felinoel 05:19, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

If you're not talking about the template then please do the discussion on thbe discussion page of the article you are talking about. That is part of the rules of discussion. Otherwise everyone simply assumes that you're still talking about the template. Seriously, I'm not trying to be hard here. I'm simply confused as to why you would continue a discussion on a page where it has ended. And stop with the caveman routine. I'm quite gifted in english. Zero 05:43, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why you are talking about a caveman? But when I repeatedly specifically say something about a particular thing, why would you assume I was talking about something else? I only brought it up here because it was a part of this discussion, I was saying that Whale Tail Island was listed as an Earth Kingdom city in both the Template and its article itself. Felinoel 05:48, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

The caveman was a refernece to your saying "You not actually reading my posts". The template's been corrected so you should really move your discussion to the Article's discussion page Talk:Whale Tail Island otherwise more misconceptions could take place. Please do so. Thank You. Zero 05:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Discussion will no longer continue here due to danger of misconception. Continue the discussion on this page:Talk:Whale Tail Island. By the way I fixed the problem you couldnt. Zero 07:30, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I "couldn't" because I didn't want to step out of line and do it without consulting anyone first Felinoel 09:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Fixing the problem merely required copying the current template into a new template page and then applying it. That is not against the rules especially since it has been debated about here and a compromise has been reached. and like I said before this discussion is closed. I dont want another verbal battle with you. why do you insist on discussing this here when it is inappropriate I'll never understand. I repeat Continue the discussion on this page:Talk:Whale Tail Island. Zero 10:43, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Do you guys want a page solely for that discussion? It'd be much easier to keep track of arguments and all, I can make a page under a username, just like I did to save the two column format of the Main page. Is that idea ok with both of you? Omnibender 15:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

No thanks Omni, this is finished enough for me, and it was not a problem of ease or rulebreaking, it was a problem of making sure no one wouldn't like the change, as I tried to do with Guru Pathik when he was labeled as an Earth Kingdom citizen, which we have no clue what he is, he could even be Fire Nation, I tried seeing if anyone would mind if I made him purple for neutrality, and people did mind and ended up on settling on labeling him as a spirit becase the grey is "a neutral enough color" for them Felinoel 01:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, with two places in it now, the neutral locations marker in the template is less of an eyesore Felinoel 01:27, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Then let's use Spirit character template for characters we don't know and the purple one for the locations we don't know. Which one of you did the Neutral city template? Since we are going to put templates in the locations, I though it'd be a good idea to make one for Air and Water as well. Maybe keeping the same colors as the character ones, and that includes the soft change between the header and the actual template body. By the way, that distinction isn't made in the Neutral location, should it be added? Omnibender 01:55, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I wanted Pathik to be Neutral though, not a Spirit, you want an air and water city template? Felinoel 04:03, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I too am done with this. Zero, we are not being stubborn. You are being stubborn because you can not face what is fact. We are only agreeing to this compromise because you are being stubborn and won't accept fact.

--8th Mizukage 04:19, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes thats true, I better go change the Northern Air Temple and say it is Earth Kingdom territory just because some Earth Kingdom citizens are residing there Felinoel 04:23, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Funny, I was actually thinking about that earlier.

--8th Mizukage 07:37, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

No dont do that. Look I'm saying that when categorizing Locations one must not only look at the map but also the locations history and ties to people. This was decided when a similar but not so heated arguement sprang up over whether the Spirit OIasis was a Water Tribe Location or a Spirit Location. The Northern Air Temple may have been occupied by the Earth Kingdom but the occupation is too recent. Leave it be. I wanted the Whale Tail Island to be declared as Earth Kingdom but when Felinoel made his objections I changed it to neutral because his objections were valid but only up to a certain point. In Lake Laogai, Aang had to ask Sokka about where Whale Tail Island is. He (Aang) didnt know because the Air Nomads never lived there at All. And Besides the Air Nomad Section is labled Air Nomad Locations. Not Air Nomad Territory locations. Please Stop messing with my template. I made it and it hurts when people mess it up without understanding. And by the way, the way Felinoel responds to other discussions, I have reservations as to whether he has seen the whole series yet. And by the way Omni I was the one who made the purple template. Any problems in templates and you can always come to me. I have expierience in these matters. More than Felinoel here. You know this. Zero 08:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't see how a place that exists in the Spirit World (but has a door that leads to it in the Northern Water Tribe) is anything like this. Obviously if Whale Tail Island is uncertain or neutral territory, then the same can be said for the Northern Air Temple Felinoel 09:05, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok, Zero, I do see your point, but just because Aang doesn't know, doesn't mean the other Airbenders didn't.

--8th Mizukage 13:23, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Besides, you can't know whether or not they ever lived there, they were nomads, a few could have landed there to set up camp for the night Felinoel 17:38, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Lets see Aang knows the locations of all four air temples. A secret that few outside the Air Nomads knew (Sozin only found out due to the treachery of Monk Afiko) and he doesnt know about the location of Whale Tail Island? I'd say that proves it but as for the one night Felinoel speaks of that is the real reason The Northern Air Temple should stay in the Air Nomad section. You cant erase or ignore thousands of years old history just because someone else stayed there for a mere 100 years. Less since Teo was still a child when they came there. Thaks 8th Mizukage. Zero 12:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Afiko isn't canon, that has been confirmed quite some times. Omnibender 17:01, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

And yet you are erasing or ignoring history for Whale tail Island Felinoel 04:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

What Whale Tail Island History. Tell me one bit of history that links it with the Air Nomads. Can You? Lets see... No you cant. Zero 10:24, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Every map throughout the series lists Whale Tail Island as Air Nomad territory, why not as some other nation? Obviously because at some point in time Air Nomads claimed it for a reason, and you want to ignore/erase that reason it seems, so why not erase the Northern Air Temple as well? Felinoel 18:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Can't we settle for the Neutral territory compromise? I get both sides: white in the map means Air Nomad, nothing else from show points to Air Nomad, which leads to EK occupation. Since both sides have strong arguments, and neither is willing to give in, a compromise is the best way out in this cases, isn't it the reason the neutral location template was created for? If we ever get an interview or a book like "The Ultimate Guide on ATLA", kinda like the one JKR is writing about HP, and it provides irrefutable evidence to either side, we'll change it, otherwise we'll just keep going on with this debate until after Movie 3 comes out. Omnibender 22:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd settle for it. I agree with everything Omni says. And by the way Felinoel Like I said before. Maps are only one Reason. Untill you can actively prove your point, through means of history, ties and allegiences, your objection can only result in Whale Tail Islands removal from the earth Kingdom into Uncertain/Neutral Locations. If it is revealed to have deep ties to Air Nomads then I will transfer it to its section. Zero 01:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I thought we were talking about the Northern Air Temple? Felinoel 01:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Umm...where was it ever stated that it was occupied by the Earth Kingdom, or any other nation?

--8th Mizukage 08:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

The episode about it, maybe you should read it's article, Northern Air Temple, its full of Air Walkers who are Earth Kingdom citizens, I say if Whale Tail Island is unknown/neutral, the Northern Air Temple is at least that as well Felinoel 08:24, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

The Northern Air Temple is location confirmed as Air Nomad territory with confirmed Earth Kingdom colonizers. Whale Tail Island has never been confirmed either way, and the only mentions to it in the series are when Long Feng and the Dai Li tried to make Aang leave BSS, saying that someone who supposedly bought Appa went there with him, and the little mention to it in The Southern Raiders. No confirmation on original territory or occupation. Omnibender 23:21, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Firstly, the fact that the island is white confirms original territory, and secondly, the fact that the Northern Air Temple has been Air Nomad territory with confirmed Earth Kingdom colonizers is why I say it should be Uncertain/Neutral Felinoel 02:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I was talking about Whale Tail Island, it was never said to be occupied.

--8th Mizukage 03:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I've got something you're not gonna like. Zero 06:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

That is from the pilot episode and is outdated. It basically claims they conquered most of the world, and they didn't conquer all of those areas. Not to mention I was referring to how people were referring it as being occupied by the Earth Kingdom.

--8th Mizukage 13:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I see so you're saying that the map that Sokka used and said was dated is not the same as this map. OK. I agree with that since the pilot episode is not really part of the show. But consider the elemental symbols on the map. They're pretty accurate and they say a lot about the main living locations of the people. Zero 10:21, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

True...and Whale Tail Island is also white on this map.

--8th Mizukage 17:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

No it isnt. Its red. But anyway the Air Symbols depict the location of the Air Temples. And before you say anything the Northern Air Temple was still an Air Nomad Location Even though it is within Earth Kingdom Territory. Note the change in color from dark brown to a lighter color at the Northern Air Temple Location. Zero 03:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

The red is gradually consuming the entire map, it was originally white.

Well, the arguments with the color/element symbol are tipping me to Air Nomad, my only reasons to question that information are: no other indication of that, and the map is from the unaired pilot, thus not part of the continuity. I do believe it to be Air Nomad, but as you all know, I'm quite a pain when it comes to reliable and verifiable sources. Omnibender 23:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

--8th Mizukage 08:41, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

The pilot episode is not canon and cannot be used to say Whale Tail Island is not Air Nomad territory, but this is going beside the point, you already forced the decision of Whale Tail Island not being owned by Air Nomads, all I am saying is that if Whale Tail Island is unknown/neutral, so is the Northern Air Temple, the same thing is happening in both cases, so if one is forced to be one way, the other would do the same in being that way of the first Felinoel 01:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion is:
Whale Tail Island Moved to Uncertain/Neutral Locations Section
Please do not edit this discussion.

[edit] Northern Air Temple

The Northern Air Temple has thousands of years of Air Nomad History tied to it. Its ties to the Air Nomads are too deep to be ignored. As such, it is an Air Nomad Location. Zero 05:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

The same could possibly be the case with Whale Tail Island, which means you can not say that it is definitely one way or the other, if you are saying that with Whail Tail Island Felinoel 01:43, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

No... it cant. Look its not going to be in the Air Nomads section. Please dont mix things up again. This is the Northern Air Temple Section. Just as the Spirit Oasis is in Water Tribe Territory but a spirit Location in realty. (Same with Wan Shi Tong's Library and The Foggy Swamp) Dont mess things up. Your arguement about the map only results in it being shited from Earth Kingdom to Neutral. Since you do not have any proof of it being inhabited by the Air Nomads therefore it ca'nt be transferred into the Air Nomad Section. Please can we stop talking about this obsession you have with Whale Tail Island? Thank You. Zero - Talk 04:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

You cannot disregard the possibility due to knowing nothing about the Air Nomads themselves, but since you are saying that it is affiliation and not location that makes gives a place its location in this template, then the Northern Air Temple definitely goes in the Earth Kingdom section Felinoel 01:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

(sigh) We've been over this. The Northern Air Temple has thousands of years of Air Nomad history attatched to it. As far as it is revealed, Whale Tail Island has none whatsoever. Look If at some time it is revealed to have history similar to NAT then I will transfer it to the Air Nomad Section. Now remember what Howabout1 said. Stay away from here. Zero - Talk 04:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

And yet the Air Nomads are dead, and Earth Kingdom citizens have taken it over and it is now affiliated with them Felinoel 05:17, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

The temple has been explicitly shown and said to be Air Nomad territory, even if they're gone. Whale Tail Island has the least information I think the Wikia has on a location, and there's already the neutral location template compromise to try smothering that particular issue (and the template was shown useful for other locations to boot), if this was an abandoned monastery with hints of Air Nomad culture, no particular Earth Kingdom signs, the neutral template would be the way to go, but that's not the case. I know the map isn't considered canon, but the pilot map, unlike the one from the series, has the NAT mountains colored as white. Omnibender 22:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Look all I am saying is that the absense of evidence is not the evidence of absense, and that by the logic imposed on Whail Tail Island, the Northern Air Temple should be listed as neutral felinoel ~ (Talk) 23:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

No. I think he real reason you're doing this is because you're just mad that the Whale Tail Island has been shifted to Neutral instead of Air Nomad and you're out to level the playing field. I told you many times. Whale Tail Island has no Confirmed history with the Air Nomads while NAT has a confirmed history of thousands of years. That is the main reason why your argument is so flimsy. Please look within yourself. See why you're really doing this and then decide whether you're doing the right thing. Besides after the war ended most of the Earth Kingdom refugees in the NAT probably left to go back to their old homes. Zero - Talk 06:51, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

First of all, I am trying to fix continuity issues, and second of all, the Air Walkers' homes were destroyed, why would they return there? felinoel ~ (Talk) 01:27, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

To return to the mainstream. The Main reason they chose NAT was because they wanted to get away from the war. Now the war is over and only those who have the true spirit of an Air Nomad would want to stay there. Zero - Talk 05:53, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Where else would they go? They made the Northern Air Temple their home, I wouldn't want to leave my home to go to a smoldering pile of ash felinoel ~ (Talk) 18:23, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

They made it their homme after their old one got burned down. you obviously dont know of the longing one feels after he has been forced to leave the place he was born in. By the way they can rebuild. Zero - Talk 09:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

They sure seemed happy flying around in their new home, which is something that would most definitely prove to be difficult at wherever their old home was felinoel ~ (Talk) 10:39, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

True but remember what I said about those with the spirit of the Air Nomads. It is speculated by many that they might produce airbenders later on. Not that I really believe that fully. But the fact is that the Northern Air Temple has too many ties to the Air Nomads. It cant be shifted to Neutral yet. Maybe when the New Avatar Story Airs. Zero - Talk 11:56, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

What if the new series is about Iroh's childhood? felinoel ~ (Talk) 19:19, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

The people from the NAT can't become or give birth to new Airbenders, read the interview link at Talk:The Twins, that's part 2, if it's not there, search for parts 1 and 3, it'll there. Omnibender 19:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

No they only talked about the current Air Walkers, they said nothing of their unborn kids felinoel ~ (Talk) 19:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I dont think it will be a spin off. It more likely to be the story of another one of the Avatar's incarnations. Zero - Talk 04:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

And thats not a spinoff? felinoel ~ (Talk) 04:56, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Not exactly. It still concerns the Avatar. Albeit a new Avatar. At least it wo'nt concern itself with one of the other characters like in that Pokemon spinoff series. What was it called? Pokemon Honsou? or something. Zero - Talk 05:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

The show is called Avatar: the last airbender, not Every Avatar felinoel ~ (Talk) 05:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. Avatar: The Last Airbender. Spinoffs mainly concentrate on one of the other characters from the show. Zero - Talk 05:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

And by the way where did the spinoff come into this. We were talking about NAT. Zero - Talk 05:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

You brought it up felinoel ~ (Talk) 08:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah... Forgot about that. Zero - Talk 08:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Forgotten felinoel ~ (Talk) 18:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

No. I said Forgot not forget, as in I Forgot. Zero - Talk 03:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah I see, wasn't wearing my glasses then felinoel ~ (Talk) 03:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Also that line "Oh yeah... Forgot about that." was another quote. Zero - Talk 03:42, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Should I consider this discussion closed? Or does anyone still have some good arguments? Mind you. The arguments better be good enough to merit the discussion. Or else its just a waste of time. - Zero - Talk 11:56, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm Serious. - Zero - Talk 10:43, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Right, like anything said will matter to you felinoel ~ (Talk) 01:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion is:
Northern Air Temple stays in Air Nomad Section untill further details are released.
Please do not edit this discussion.

[edit] Northern Air Temple (cont.)

Awww, I liked my reason for it, so by this statement do you mean if the Air Walkers are still in the Air Temple you will agree to the temple being Earth Kingdom territory? felinoel ~ (Talk) 06:45, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It will depend on the circumstances. But maybe yes maybe no. There are still a lot of theories about the restoration of the Air Nomads you know. - Zero - Talk 07:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Restoration? They destroyed that place, statues of people that people have forgotten can not be restored, they pretty much acted like they owned the place, why don't you think so? felinoel ~ (Talk) 07:25, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Not the restoration of the Air Nomad Statues, The Restoration of the Air Nomads themselves. The People of the Air Nomads. Repopulation. And Would you stop using this page. Its all over. Get it? And stop moving the template. It's supposed to be at the bottom. Any further discussion can be taken on our own talk pages. This discussion is officially closed. Thank You. - Zero - Talk 07:47, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

What? First of all I don't see that happening in a while, secondly, you are saying that new Air Nomads will be born and kick these Air Walkers out of the Northern Air Temple just because Air Nomads called it first? If thats the case then Whail Tail Island should still belong to th Air Nomads, continuity, its important. felinoel ~ (Talk) 08:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

You do realize that you have some problems with reading dont you? We've discussed the Whale Tail Island and Quite Frankly. You were only partly right. Untill further information is passed. The Whale Tail Island and the NAT will stay right where they are. There is no use being stubborn Felinoel. Good Bye. In a few days I will return to erase this unneeded converstation. So enjoy it while you can. - Zero - Talk 08:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I am the one not reading? I am not talking about Whail Tail Island I am talking about continuity, if the Northern Air Temple is to remain listed as Air Nomad territory that goes against the reason why you made Whail Tail Island Earth Kingdom territory, which is the reason this topic started, problems with continuity. felinoel ~ (Talk) 08:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

And please, don't threaten me with vandalism felinoel ~ (Talk) 08:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It wont be vandalism. That doesnt refer to discussions that have no point to them. I'd prefer the term cleanup or taking out the trash if you will. And you seriously do have a reading problem. NAT is confirmed Air Nomad Location while there has been nothing website or show based other than the color of a map that suggests that there was an Air Nomad Settlement there. Seriously. You have a serious case of denial. - Zero - Talk 10:18, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what you prefer to call it, its still vandalism, and I have my first day of my senior year of college in the morning so it looks like your stubbornness wins over continuity again, this time you also added being contradictive to annoy me so much I give up. felinoel ~ (Talk) 06:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Good then its settled. I'll just be adding this section to the area before the closed Template. (To avoid further problems. Soon, Not now though.) And no, cleaning up is not vandalism. Otherwise kids would be calling cleaning up their rooms and throwing out things that are not needed anymore as vandalism everytime their parents told them to. You dont see that happening do you? No you dont. Good Day. - Zero - Talk 06:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

First of all, don't put it in front of that discussion closed thing of the other topic because its a different topic and this one starts off referencing the discussion closed thing, second of all, calling something cleaning up does not make it so felinoel ~ (Talk) 06:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Neither does calling Cleaning Up, Vandalism make it so. Fine then I'll delete this section after a few weeks then. - Zero - Talk 11:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah unless it is vandalism felinoel ~ (Talk) 04:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

By the way have you ever debated before? You know, participated in your school's debating competitions? - Zero - Talk 12:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I was one of my school's best felinoel ~ (Talk) 04:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

That's something we have in common. - Zero - Talk 05:37, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok? Your point is? felinoel ~ (Talk) 07:47, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I'd rather not say. Anyways, I've set the heading level a litte lower than the one before. This will solve the problem quite well if you ask me. Is this acceptable to you? - Zero - Talk 10:23, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Another thing. It's theorised that the decendants of the Air Walkers might become airbenders. That was the Restoration Theory I was talking about. Upon the airing of further info this debate will be solved. Now let it go. - Zero - Talk 10:26, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that was one of my fav theories, in fact in my Avatar d20 game I am running with some friends of mine here in college I am using that as something that happens, don't tell them that though I want them to find that out for themselves. But this is merely rumors and thoughts, nothing official in the slightest, if it doesn't happen it will remain to be "unsolved" but thats not true because it is not an official possibility so it should not be considered for this. felinoel ~ (Talk) 20:34, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Then I believe we are in agreement. We shall wait for more information to be released or untill a new Avatar Series is released. If the NAT is still occupied by EK Refugees. We'll move it to Neutral/Uncertain just like with Whale Tail Island. Ok? - Zero - Talk 09:11, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

BTW now that this topic is a subheading I wont delete or move it. As far as I'm concerned its found its rightful place. - Zero - Talk 09:13, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I tried to stay out of this one, but now I feel like I need to intervene. I realize the whole affiliation thing, but I don't think the Air Temples, no matter what happens, should ever be moved.

--8th Mizukage 01:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Dude I get it. Thats exactly what i want but Felinoel wont be satisfied. This is the only way to stave it off for a while at least. We can continue once more info or a new Avatar Series is released. - Zero - Talk 05:21, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hu Xin provinces

I was wondering where this page should go on the template. They are located in the Earth Kingdom, but were conquered by the Fire Nation.

--8th Mizukage 02:11, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

True, but following the Defeat of Ozai and the coronation of Zuko. They were probably reverted back to the Earth Kingdom. Zero 03:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion is:
Hu Xin Provinces transferred to Earth Kingdom Section
Please do not edit this discussion.

[edit] Pirate Ship Boutique

Now this is a debatable location. Since the Pirates owe no allegiances to any one nation. It is therefore debatable whether this place is part of the Earth Kingdom. What do you guys think? Zero - Talk 06:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral for sure. I doubt they stay at that one dock for more then a few days.

--8th Mizukage 06:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah thats what I've been thinking. Lets see what the others have to say. Zero - Talk 06:56, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Actually, the only reason I put the location as EK is because it was the only physical location reference we had, but now that we have neutral location, we can certainly put it there. Omnibender 16:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I was trying to leave a message and the last discussion was deleted.....I guess my computer really is screwed up.

Anyway, considering that they artifacts from all the nations (maybe not Fire Nation, I don't remember), that proves it (not to mention the word Pirate should as well).

--8th Mizukage 18:02, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

So... Should we switch it to neutral? Zero - Talk 10:34, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm all for it, anyone against it? Omnibender 17:26, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Does'nt look like it. Zero - Talk 17:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Who wants to do the honors? Omnibender 17:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll do it. Zero - Talk 04:32, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Umm 8 beat me to it. Zero - Talk 04:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion is:
Pirate Boutique moved to Uncertain\Neutral Locations Section.
Please do not edit this discussion.