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Finale titles Edit
Until there is any confirmation from a reliable source (Nick, DongbuFeng, ASN...), wouldn't it be better to leave the titles in open? Is it so hard to do? Omnibender 15:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
In a word for each: No! and Yes!!!! in order. Zero 23:28, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Water, Earth, Fire… aaaaaaaaaaand? Edit
Speculative question: When Aang finally defeats the current firelord and the phoenixlord, Zuko will be the next firelord, so he's in the position to end the war. But there are some loose ends left after doing so (and not all of them will be closed within the last few episodes):
- Ending the war is just the first step of restoring the balance in the world.
- Airbenders are still not back. I am sure there are at least a few airbenders (if not masters) left in the world, but Aang is the last KNOWN one.
- If Aang is truely the last Airbender, how can he even hope to restore the balance in the world? No Airbenders = no more fully realized Avatars and the circle will be broken with the death of the Avatar from the Firenation.
- Relationships between Katara & Aang, Sokka & Suki, Zuko and Mai etc. "Kataang" will be more likely true than "Zutara" as Zuko is in love with Mai and he shows no interest in Katara as far as I can see.
- IF Aang masters the Avatarstate before attacking the phoenixlord, how did he? Will he let his attachments to earth go?
Those questions should be enough to fill another book: "Air". Either as part of the series or as some sort of comicbook.
BTW: English is not my foreign language.
BTW2: Right now I am thinking about creating an account here. Don't think "Avatar" is a series for kids; hey, I am 26 ... 126.96.36.199 20:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps Aang will leave behind scrolls and statues depicting airbending so that the other avatars can master airbending. Who knows maybe some new airbenders can be formed as a result of this just as the first human airbenders learned from the sky bisons. Zero 07:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
If you read up on the interviews, Mike and Brian stated explicitly was "truly" the last Air Nomad and that attempting to repopulate his race would be impossible. However, Bending according to them isn't strictly genetic or hereditary so there's a chance that some could be taught how to air-bend.Mathaus 17:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)Mathaus
Are you serious. Because If you are then that would be so cool. I was always afraid that the Air Nomads would be wiped out forever. Yaaaayyyyyyy! Zero 02:16, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I know it's not completly genetics,but isn't it possible that IF katang has a son/dauter couldn't he/she be an airbender,be taught by aang before death,ten teach the new avatar?,if thats a big no then couldn't aangs spirit try to teach allitle,and let him figure it out,i mean now since the war is over,he hopfully would have more time to figure it out
- I see where you're going with this, but keep in mind that the Avatar can live for quite the extended period, as revealed in I believe Avatar Day, where, if I remember correctly, it is stated that Kyoshi lived for 200 some years. So, there is a chance that Katara's children would be dead before the next Avatar. 188.8.131.52 08:05, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
i know,but /A/. kyoshi li The bloodbender666 01:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC) ved longer then any avatar,not all live thal long i think ruko dided when he was 94,but he got killed so nevermind,and couldn't katara's kids get marryed if aang lives long he'll have plenty of time,then when he dies the sons and daughters will teach there sons a nd daughters,and allong the way learn to better there bending by there self,and continue,it would be the ultimate way of showing the world is back at peice,by reviving the peacful race of air walkers
The bloodbender666 08:37, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
spin off Edit
Have the crators said anything about a continuation besides the movies comming out. The movies will be nice but i really want a continuation maybe with new charecters. Comment if you have any news on this.
none,in a interveiw they staided espicible,this story is done,i know the way it looks they mean the series but you have to read the interveiw to see why my hope for more has been desroyed then laughed at, but there is a tiny little small,possibility,when they said if avatar dose return i hope it's not where the series left off but not enough to revive my hope for more,there tring to break the news to us without destoying it copletly,check the ASN homepage for the link to the interveiw
The bloodbender666 08:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
I really think some sort of official epilogue would be awesome. It would just conclude all the major storylines, like if there were any marriages/children and what Aang did in the rest of his life as avatar. It could be either in comic or written form. Heck, it could even be a thirty minute episode. But it would have to be official, no fanfic stuff... BHynes10
i know,to many unawnsered Q, like what happend to professer zei or the earth king,where's zuko's mother and what will she think of what he did,did the 2 tribes from the great divide ever get to ba sing sa,and more,but nothings left
05:59, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
There is the possibility that Korra will revisit some of these in flashbacks. Similiar to how Aang does it with Roku.
184.108.40.206 00:21, June 17, 2010 (UTC) Asita
Oookay. I'm not a member of this wiki, but,O have a question. At the end of 321, after the credits, it says: 'In Memory of Dante DiMartino' Does that mean Mike died? Or maybe Mike's dad? Answers, please. 11:20 AM, July 21, 2008
- Mike's Great Uncle (his grandfather's brother) died very young in WWII and that is who the reference is to. It's also the basis of the Iroh/Lu Ten story. BHynes10 01:20, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I have the same question. I've been looking around but I haven't seen anything pointing towards that being true or not. I'm wondering if someone died or maybe its just like a congrats.?
What about Ursa? Edit
Is it just me or didn't anybody notice that Zuko never really got the answer of where his mother is? Fire Sage Ru 02:13, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
- More correctly, we never got that answer. We don't know if Zuko did, and I wouldn't say it's ultimately important that we are told. 220.127.116.11 17:37, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
There actually a lot of questions that were unanswered. I believe that because of a lot of material that wasn't added during books 1-3, such as the existance of airbenders(besides Aang), that there will be a book 4 in the near future. Fire Sage Ru 01:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
There wont be a Book Four. However, there are the mini episodes and the New Series|New Avatar Story]] that the Creators of the show are trying to make. I hope it works. Zero 04:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
There are no other Airbenders, Mike and Bryan already said that long ago in an interview which is available at AvatarSpirit. At least no survivors or descendants from Genocide Air Nomads, Aang having children is a whole other story. Omnibender 22:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Avatar State Edit
If aang blocked the thought chakra, how did he get into the avatar state to defeat ozai? It didn't seem as though he let go of his earthly connections..
kinda by acedent,when he hit his wound he relived the experience,where aang got shot down while letting go of katara,but this time he finished it and the chakra is opened,he tried leting go in CoD but didn't finish untill then,and he didn't use it to defeat ozie
The Chakra was blocked when Azula hit it with lightning but when the scar was rehit when Aang was flung against a jagged piece of rock, part of his earth protection sphere, it hit the exact spot in his scar opening the blocked chakra and thus the Avatar Spirit activates. Aang does not give up his atrtactchment to Katara and instead controls the Avatar Spirit by the sheer force of his will and conviction in doing the right thing. He almost fails but finally achieves his rank as a Fully Realised Avatar. Now he is able to enter the Avatar State at will, without sacrificing his attatchment to Katara. Zero 06:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
remember in CoD aang had already parcially givin it up before azula shot him,givivg it up dosen't nessisarally lossing it,patic said learn to let her go,but aang couldn't stand not having his love for katara,even for a second,he learned to let her go in the end ofCoD but didn't finish untill SC4 so he did let her go The bloodbender666 07:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
What's interesting is that the wound he received from Azula was so bad it breaks the line of the tattoo along his back, and that area no longer glows when he enters the state. Daniel Dusk 14:11, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
how is that weird?,the tattoo's harnes haangs chi,witch of corse supercharges in the avatar state,causing the glow,if the skins rpped of,the tattoo removed,no harnes,no glow,understand?
The bloodbender666 14:24, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- I said it was interesting, not weird, after all the tattoos only glow cause they follow the chi lines in the body. I just find it interesting that if the tattoo is damaged the line of the glow is broken, I guess it's just my logical mind thinking "why should the body light up along tattoo lines but not around a deep scar?" Daniel Dusk 05:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
You know, I think I got how it worked. In CoD, Aang was already in the AS when Azula shot him. That shot disturbed the flow of energy in his chakras. Katara mentioned in The Awakening that she felt a lot of energy twisted up in that area (his back), so my guess is that his 7th remained open, but since some other was closed because of the lightning, the energy couldn't flow and started to accumulate or something like that. When the rock hit him in the back, it was like Ty Lee hitting someone, but instead of interrupting the flow of chi, it restored the flow, and bing bang boom, Aang is in the Avatar State. Omnibender 16:16, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Exactly. However Aang's attachment to Katara was not fully severed when Aang tried it in Ba Sing Se. Thus Aang had to resort to another method to control the Avatar State. I think there was always more than one method to do so. First was the chakras, the easy way, the second was the method Aang employed, the hard way. I think he finally managed to use his will and determination to gain control over the Avatar State. It is probably the method also employed by Roku, since he still loved Ta Min. Zero 06:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't think Roku did that, at least that's what Escape from the Spirit World suggests, there was no mention to chakras there. I think it has a greater psychological component to it, if Aang realized that both Roku and Kuruk (if he remembered Kuruk) had loved ones and still managed to control the Avatar State, he'd have a much easier time trying to control it. Omnibender 14:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
It could be because as an Air Nomad, Aang would be expected to try the path to spiritual enlightenment rather than mastery of the Avatar State. There is no guarantee that Pathik is actually teaching Aang the way to control the Avatar State, in fact it seems like the Guru was teaching him how to gain enlightenment- and perhaps clear his mind for the Avatar State. Pathik hung out with the Air Nomads, which is why that is probably the way he thinks Aang can reach the Avatar State. Roku and Kuruk were not only older but probably had different teachers like Fire Sage Kaja, each perhaps with different philosophies. Remember, when Yangchen told him that the Avatars can never reach spiritual enlightment, Aang was a bit shocked (she's mastered the AS too).
User:PhantomS 03:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Cryptic message Edit
When Aang uses waterbending to wash the fire burning the land (when the water begins to wash away and the ground begins to show). Did anyone see a cryptic message? This may be old news. Fme008 2:43, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
i didn't see it, what am i supposed to be looking for? --Britt(: 02:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
after aang defeated ozai he washes the burning fire with water, then after the water dries up you can the land, if you look close enough you can see the cryptic message (when the land begins to show), i uploaded a video on youtube but i don't know if i can post links here. Fme008 14:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Katara and Azula in the ice Edit
Katara defeats Azula by freezing her in a block of ice, rendering her ineffective, then tied her up. However, in the last episode of season 1 she did the same thing to Zuko - she froze him in a block of ice (except she wasn't in the ice), and he heated up a fireball and got out of it no problem. So what's the deal? Why didn't Azula just do the same? I mean, Zuko sucked at fighting back then so it's not like his immense talent got him out of the situation. Fme008 18:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Zuko was not completely frozen, there was a pocket of air in the middle. Thats where Zuko was, so he could move, and thus bend. Azula was completely frozen and she had gone insane which interfered with her ability to think coherently. Thus she could not break free. Zero - Talk 05:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, Azula was completely encased in ice, Zuko was put in an ice dome, which gives much more freedom of movement. Omnibender 21:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Katara acted very quickly when freezing Azula, chaining her arms to the ground. Even when crazy she might have tried heating the ice, which is why Katara didn't just leave her in the ice like she did Zuko.User:PhantomS 15:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
so if azula did melt the ice, katara would just quickly re-bend it back to ice? Fme008 14:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
A few weeks later Edit
How long after????? a guys its says here the gang meet up a few months later after the war but I read in a interview with M & B that they said it was only a week or so later...
Where is this interview where M&B say the meeting at Ba Sing Se happened a few weeks after the war? Puragus - Talk 18:08, 15 November 2008 (UTC) 20:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)sunbender20:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC) is it really weeks later?!?!? I thought it was a few months later??-well thats what the book said anyway
A few weeks later: source Edit
You read my mind Puragus!!! thats exactly what I said!!! well the best thing you can do there is just type in U.K tv guide into the URL then go to search avatar but all I got was Episode Guide, comments and times of avatar shows in the U.K and Ireland!!!If I can find the web-site to the brand of the uk tv guide mag I was reading I will let you and all of the wiki know ASAP!!!!! the review and interview I read were simply side articles below the tv time for avatar (7:30)mind you the review+interview were very long for side-articles(about a page and a half) heres the link a tv guide http://www.tvguide.co.uk/ I hope this has been of some help:)))) you should also try search other u.k tv guides around the web, you might find the mag I read speaking of witch thats what im going to do now *flees to search web for mag & interview* Kevo598 19:08, 18 November 2008 (UTC)kevo598Kevo598 19:08, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
omg KEV!!!!! nice to see you here! Sunbender 18:04, 2 December 2008 (UTC)sunbender
Ha, ha john you finaly made it on to avatar wiki, come-on lets not talk here, go to my talk page!! Kevo598 18:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)kevo598
Too many airships Edit
It appears to me that Sokka's group, between this episode and the previous one, took out sixteen Fire Nation airships. The problem is, that's more than the Fire Nation actually had going into the battle. They had fifteen including Ozai's flagship, which Aang shot down and isn't included in my total for Sokka's group. So it appears we have a continuity error here. RedXIV 03:38, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, RedXIV, there are sixteen Fire Nation airships including Ozai's flagship. Sokka's group took out fourteen airships, because the fifteenth was the one Suki captured. There is no error, unless there is something else I missed. 888th Avatar - Talk - Contributions 03:57, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
The Boy in the Iceberg to Sozin's Comet, Part 4: Avatar Aang Edit
I've noticed that the 1st episode is called boy in the iceberg and the last episode called Avatar Aang, should i put this in series continuity?
Golden Reel AwardsEdit
This episode won a Golden Reel award for Sound Effects. I personally thought the music and the sound in the epic Aang/Ozai battle was rather intense and amazingly executed as well.
Anyways...here's the link: http://www.mpse.org/goldenreels/nominations/2009nominees/TV%20Animation.pdf --misken67 05:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Toph in Sokka's painting Edit
End quote Edit
What was the quote at the end of this episode? It had asian letters, and I was just wondering what it said.
Why, during Zuko's coronation, are there four groups of people? There are people dressed in red (fire), green (earth--which includes the inventor and his son who are the closest thing we have to an air people), blue (water), and white (air??). Where did these people come from? Is this just a mistake?
Thr group you are refering to is the Foggy Swamp Tribe, no idea, why they are there but they are.The Freak of Nature Twilitlink 19:10, May 16, 2010 (UTC)