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Content addition[]

If you have any content you would like to add and you are not an administrator, feel free to post here. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 06:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

how about zucest. (makes me sick) User:Luvingazula - Talk 08:52, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

We're only going to list popular ships here. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 08:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

i need to go and be sick now. User:Luvingazula - Talk 08:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

ok i am fine now.User:Luvingazula - Talk 08:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC) what about

suki/sokka

toph/sokka

From what I'v seen, many people refer to Suki and Sokka as Sukka. I've also heard the phrase Tykka (Sokka and Ty Lee) quite a bit too. Vaznock 19:38, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Ty Luko (zuko ty lee)

Ty lokka ( sokka ty lee) User:Luvingazula - Talk 19:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

you can make a name out off any two characters god they even made zucest User:Luvingazula - Talk 19:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I've heard Ty Lokka for Sokka and Ty Lee. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:59, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

well i think it should be added because ty lee kind of fancied sokka. User:Luvingazula - Talk 22:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe Moppa (Momo and Appa) should be added, because even though it was not popular among fans (and kinda nasty), it was used by the creators to make fun of the whole shipping idea many times. Vaznock 03:24, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

how about ty lee and azula lol. azula seems to be thst kind of girl. User:Luvingazula - Talk 22:21, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Lets see, I've heard of Tang (Toph and Aang) too. Vaznock 22:23, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

you have to admit azula seems like that type of girl. User:Luvingazula - Talk 22:25, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe we should move this to the forums.Its getting a lttle unrelated with the topic. Vaznock 22:28, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

ok you do that. User:Luvingazula - Talk 22:29, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I have seen many times Smellershot (Smellerbee and Longshot). Dcasawang1 - Talk - Contributions 20:07, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Tang and Toko are also quite common. Can you add them? Vaznock - Talk 20:36, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 22:23, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi can u pleeze please add Zukaang and Sokkaang to the list? These ships have some hidden moments in the show, and i think that it would be beneficial to the general public to see if they can find examples of them. Thxx!!! Zukosfiregirl22 (talkcontribs) 18:39, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

No,

1)they aren't popular

2)no evidence, at least zutara had some evidence..

3)the only thing that can be called evidence is that accidental hug thing that aang and zuko did in the fire bending masters and they looked super uncomfortable....

Sincerely,

--Courage 23:04, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think any more pairings are going to become popular--Courage 05:37, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

  • The series has ended long ago; the shippings that were widely known and accepted at the time have already been captured and displayed there. I think the page/pairings are complete. Vulmen (talkcontribs) 05:42, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but we can't lock it, what with Korra and all.....should we add Korzin? Even though it is just gross, it's the only ship for legend of korra...--Courage 05:49, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

  • I'm actually fighting with that myself. There's a lot of A:LOK stuff that will likely be added, and I'm wondering just how it would be best to incorporate the changes into the wiki. I'd like a clean view, A:TLA separation from A:LOK, kind of. Like a separate shippings page for Korra stuff, but I know a lot will be related to A:TLA so I'm not sure what the best layout would be. Do you follow what I mean? Oh and, Korzin sickens me. Especially since we've no idea of the characters. Vulmen (talkcontribs) 06:02, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Still, it is apparently popular with the people who don't realize he is 80 and it is spiritual incest. I think we should just have one section titled Avatar: The Last Airbender Shippings and another saying Avatar: Legend of Korra Shippings.--Courage 06:05, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Name Subheadings[]

Wouldn't it be better to say the shipping name under each image then "Katara and Aang kiss" and such? —Excelsior, The Flash - (Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me bay-bay!) 22:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid I didn't catch your meaning. Could you explain that? The 888th Avatar (Talk) 22:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Under the Aang and Katara kiss, you put "Kataang" instead, under the hug of Zuko and Katara, you put "Zutara," etc. —Excelsior, The Flash - (Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me bay-bay!) 23:11, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, right, okay. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 23:21, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. —Excelsior, The Flash - (Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me bay-bay!) 23:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Images[]

You know, this article isn't about something that exactly happened in the show itself, but rather fan reaction to the show. To better demonstrate how this is a fan thing, I actually think it would be more useful and informative for the page to have fan art and fan-created images than screenshots from the show. The images should reflect and enhance the content of the article, and while the images we have are great, fan art images reinforce the point of the article, that its a fan thing. Puragus Talk 23:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree. As a page about a fanon subject, it only makes sense to use fanart. We must site where we got these images, though, of course. Maybe ask them for the permission. I have a DeviantArt account, I could find and ask for them. —Excelsior, The Flash - (Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me bay-bay!) 23:41, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree with that. The artists could get understandably upset if we don't ask permission or give them credit. Puragus Talk 23:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. —Excelsior, The Flash - (Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me bay-bay!) 23:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, this is a great idea. I still think we should have those screenshots, but we should chuck in a gallery at the bottom with the fan art. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 00:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Er...my suggestion is actually that fan art images would be the primary images in and throughout the article, rather than the screenshots. I'm not averse to having a gallery, in fact that's a pretty good idea, but I think this article benefits more from fan art than from screenshots. If anything, we could have the screenshots in a gallery. Puragus Talk 00:24, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I suppose we could. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 00:29, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Ty Lee and Haru[]

In the avatar special they got together should we put Tyru in and that it is proven correctKataraTophAzula 02:11, 6 July 2009 (UTC).

That special also had Katara walking off into the sunset with the Blue Spirit. That's not how things went in canon, either. Lenga-chan 09:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Correct/Incorrect?[]

Are we sure it's a good idea to just slap these labels on ships? With some it's more complicated. For instance, Yuokka was together in canon, but because she is dead and Sokka is now with Suki, the ship would be called incorrect. Is it worth discussion? Lenga-chan 10:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't remember ever hearing of Yuokka, but from seeing your page, I think we can trust you in this topic. :) In my opinion, I think it should be marked as "Correct", and then in the information you write that Yue died before they could begin a long-term relationship. But hey, you're the one doing all the work, so it's your call. Vaznock - Talk 15:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

What I've actually been doing is something like the following:
Joe and Jane - known as Jone - had an "on-again, off-again" romantic relationship throughout the show. In [[The Pilot Episode]], Jane broke off her engagement to Joe on the grounds that he had a pet cat to which she was allergic and that she wanted to move to Europe. Later on during the Season Two opener, [[The Airport Episode]], she returned to the states and they had a one-night stand of which they never spoke again. Their friendship was tender for the rest of the season, but when Jane saw Joe kissing Jill in [[The New Year's Episode]], the season two finale, she angrily confessed her love to him. They dated for the whole of season three, but midway through Season Four, Joe dumped Jane in [[The Christmas Episode]] because he knew Jack had fallen in love with her. Jack and Jane's relationship never got off the ground, and Joe and Jane got married in [[The Last Episode]]. Jone shippers often were allied with Jick (Jack/Jill) shippers, due to the fact that the show was at its heart about the four J's friendship.
Observe that, although the snippet summarises their relationship and ends with a clear statement that they were together or not together, there's nothing so explicit as a CORRECT or INCORRECT. A lot of Avatar's ships are like that: Yuokka because, like you said, they never started a long-term relationship as she died; Jetara for the same reason; Tokka and Ty Lokka had the T->S going on, but not the S->T; the exact nature of Ty Lee and Azula's relationship is ambiguous; and the list goes on and on. ...that made more sense when I first started writing this. Also, does anyone want to help out in the Wikian spirit and write the Jetara snippet for me, due to the fact I kind of sort of haven't seen those episodes? Lenga-chan 20:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I think its a bit less complicated. I kind of think this should be based off who people ended up with. Yuokka is basically the only difficult ship to put, but I think now it might be put Incorrect, because as long as Sokka did end up with her, it kind of never happened. As for yaoi and yuri, such as the one with Ty Lee and Azula, I doubt that should even be mentioned, because I doubt Mike and Bryan had that idea. Vaznock - Talk 00:03, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

But it looks like you've already removed the labels, so, eh, lets just move on. Vaznock - Talk 00:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of shippings....people are begining to ship azula with sokka(sokkla and others are being shipped also.hey atleast its better than just auto-dubbing her to be a lesbo.thats just not right. you can't just call someone gay because they are alittle extream.Im being a bigot,i just kinda hate that idea of her being homosexual).But anyway...the sokkla shipping is getting pretty popular...and fast.Someone, cheak it out to clarify its progress in popularity.Kaizuh (talkcontribs) 13:43, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Pictures[]

There are way too many for this article, we need to decide what to do about them all. I say we should delete all except for the big three.(Maiko, Kataang, and Zutara)--Courage 21:30, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. PakkuSig copy рrofile · tаlk 21:31, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Some users think that there are two many pics for the page and belive that some should be deleted. so, maby we should vote on what to keep and what to delete.King Kaizuh - 21:32, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

I don't necessarily think they all need to be deleted...that would leave a big blank wall of text where canon shots used to be. Dropping some is fine, and perhaps re-setting the location of others to suit. Right now as you scroll the page, the wall of pictures just slams left and right. I think: Remove only a few, but ensure we keep a nice layout (left/right) in the process, specifically down near the bottom where we have four pictures all crammed together. Vulmen (talkcontribs) 21:34, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

If some pictures are deleated, also keep th Sokka-Suki picture, seeing as that pairing is one of the confirmed romantic pairings in the cannon. WaterDragon (talkcontribs) 21:36, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

yes...keep only the confirmed ones.King Kaizuh - 21:39, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, Kataang, Zutara, Maiko, Sukka and Tokka are the only real popular ones. The rest can go.

PakkuSig copy рrofile · tаlk 21:41, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Makes sense......nice sig. btw we have to be alittle careful, sometimes deleting pics can throw the text all over the place...it happened alot when i redid my user page.King Kaizuh - 21:46, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

What Water Spout suggested I side with. I'm still borderline keep Yue x Sokka however, as I have seen plenty of people who prefer him with Yue. Vulmen (talkcontribs) 21:47, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
Yukka or Soe or whatever they call it can stay too, because it is a canonical ship. Plus, that would make an even number of images in that section.

So which do we delete?--Courage 22:22, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think we should only keep the images for maiko, zutara, and kataang. I also think harutara, jingo, and zong should be taken off because they aren't very popular anymore. 23:30, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hi is it okay if this info is added in the Zutara section of this article? It's fun trivia coming from the voice of Toph herself[]

S3E21: Toph's Actor Reacts To Avatar: The Last Airbender | 'Sozin's Comet' Part 4 FINALE Reaction

In this YouTube video, while watching Sozin's Coment Part 4, Murphy reveals that she ships Zutara but also ships Kataang and Maiko. Her statement can be found at the 7:00 mark of the video. "I mean, if we want to make things a little spicier, there was definitely a moment in there when he like first kind of leaned up, that they could have totally made out. If we just wanted to you know throw some chaos into the mix as if there wasn't already enough. You know...what...how...that was...there was such a moment. That was such a moment. Like even if it's not like romantic long term, like they just saved each other's lives like together. That's romantic. That's like...that's like I care about you. I must make out with you for 2 seconds because I saved you an you saved me and we're alive. They don't have to get married. No, just. Just how?! How can you not?"

She later goes on at 12:43 mark saying "See?! And then Katara and Zuko wouldn't have to tell anyone about it. They could have just had their moment, like Zuko an Mai are supposed to be together. Katara and Aang are supposed to be together. I believe in the original shipping. I just, you know, they totally could have had a moment, that's all. Yay! But at least they get to have their moment.

I just noticed a whole bunch of comments were added from different cast and crew for ships like Zutara and Korrasami so I was like "Hey this would be fun to add in the article" I hope that's okay Dragon Scholar (wallcontribs) 01:06, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't think it needs to be added. It's the opinion of a voice actress, not canon information. Dcasawang1wall 09:49, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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