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Name

Shouldn't this page be called The Red Lotus, or Red Lotus? It was confirmed, or exposed by korraspirit, or is that not official? Zane T 69 (wallcontribs) 23:35, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

I personally don't think an embed code is the same as official confirmation. If and when that name is used in canon, it will be easy enough to rename the page. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 23:41, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
For all we know, it's just a nickname given to it by the creators (though I very much doubt that,) so I think not. Goldendragon611 (wallcontribs)
Well now we know that the name "Red Lotus" is at the very least used as an episode title, so it's not just from the code any more —Preceding unsigned comment added by MagicalChez (wallcontribs) 19:27, July 17, 2014 (UTC)

With the latest episode confirming that Zaheer and his cohorts are part of something wider than a gang, with sleeping agents like Aiwei, maybe "Zaheer's organization" or "Zaheer's conspiracy" is a more appropriate title than "Zaheer's gang" ??

Until the Red Lotus is eventually mentioned in one of the future episode. The White Lotus which protects the Avatar and the Red Lotus which want to destroy her/him. Maxattac (wallcontribs) 00:38, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

I think it would be better to wait until we get more information on how the wider group works before making judgements on how it should be named. But, you can always start a War Room forum to propose a name change, and see what the rest of the community thinks. HAMMEROFTHOR 10:33, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

What do you think about changing the name to The Order of the Red Lotus? KevinTriforce Talk 21:13, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

This is not about what we would prefer the group to be named, this is about what the group was named in canon sources. In this case, the name is "Red Lotus" and we should stick with that. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:19, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

Isn't like how The Order of the White Lotus is shortened to the White Lotus? KevinTriforce Talk 22:34, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

Not quite. Their official name is The Order of the White Lotus. So far, the Red Lotus has only been referred to as the "Red Lotus". Lucid☆Star 22:35, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

I knew that. Thanks though. So only change it if they say that is its full name in a future episode. KevinTriforce Talk 22:45, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

References/trivia

Their agenda reminds me of the ideology of anarchists and maybe the Red Scare.

First the belief that harmful or incompetent forms of government should be eliminated (actually they all want to eliminate all forms of government).

Even thought the original white lotus was about unity of the world like the UN (It even included head of states).

Remember the scene with Iroh removing the dividing lines between nations to show Lightning redirection (and similarities to water bending)? That could be how Gazan bends lava

Think of Fight Club's Project Mayhem and V for Vendata and maybe the guy fawks mask that Anonymous keeps wearing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchists

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_scare

--Blix1ms0ns (wallcontribs) 03:22, August 2, 2014 (UTC)

Icon image?

Don't you think we could also have an icon image in the Icons template for the Red Lotus and its members, just like the White Lotus? :) Lady Junky 01:15, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

I see no problem with implementing something like this. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 01:22, August 24, 2014 (UTC)
I found this on Internet: http://37.media.tumblr.com/6d382f7c87c3474d1a42733a9a134060/tumblr_n7g8uhyii61rptk5lo1_1280.jpg apparently it is an official pic, so maybe we could use it? :) Lady Junky 01:26, August 24, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, that picture should work. There's a bit of... iffy-ness as to whether it really is an official image or not, but it ever hurts to be prepared ^^" I'll create a mock-up icon and we'll see where it goes from there. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 02:34, August 24, 2014 (UTC)
It is an official one :) http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/23534/20140620/legend-korra-season-3-release-date-trailer.htm From Nickelodeon's official Facebook :) Are you gonna put the icon here, when it will be done? So impatient to see it *0* Lady Junky 04:45, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

Well, there you have it ^^" I've created the image, but I just want to see what other people think before uploading it ^^" Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 05:02, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I was approached on my wall a moment ago by another user, DevinIce14, who made a proposal icon himself. It can be viewed here. Thoughts? PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 12:39, August 24, 2014 (UTC)
When I made the image, I pretty much just took the one that Lady Junky linked and turned the black background transparent. I think the other version looks nicer, and definitely cleaner. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 12:41, August 24, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah the last one should be better for an icon :) If you install it Fruipit, tell me please and I will put it on the pages :) Lady Junky 17:06, August 24, 2014 (UTC)
As there was no opposition to this (and across the wiki, several other suggestions), the change has been implemented. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 12:40, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

New name

Just wondering, shouldn't this be called "Order of the Red Lotus"? The Order of the White Lotus is called the White Lotus for short, and they're both technically orders. Thoughts? SorcererSupreme21 (wallcontribs) 22:10, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

To my knowledge, the term "Order of the Red Lotus" has never been used in official canon. It would make sense for them to be called that to copy the Order of the White Lotus, but it would still be speculation since it has not been officially used. HAMMEROFTHOR 22:15, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

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