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Phoenix lord

A statue of a "phoenix" can be seen in "the Library", at 10:15.

Q1) Why didn't the earlier Fire Lords considered or ranked themselve the 'Phoenix lord' especially the Fire Lord Sozin, Is it because Fire Lord Ozai coined/created this post? wouldn't this disrupt the future Fire or Phoenix Lords if any ?

We'll only get more info after the finale airs, but you can go to the spoiler page to find out more. Omnibender 15:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, btw where wud i find this 'Spoilers Page'?

Series Finale Spoilers, and keep ALL spoilers there. Omnibender 16:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


According to the back cover of the Season 3, Volume 4 DVD, the titles name is "Phoenix King", instead of "Phoenix Lord". I don't know if it was changed, but is that enough to move the page? Omnibender 16:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


Someone has uploaded an image from a Nick Avatar DVD site, it's a nice close up of Ozai with the Phoenix Lord/King (we gotta decide on that) helm/crown [1]. Should the image in the article be changed? Omnibender 16:01, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I think its a helmet. Ive seen the Countdown to the Comet Commercial. Zero 09:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

It's a very adorned and elaborate helm. Omnibender 14:37, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

True. Maybe it doubles as a crown. But you have to view the fact that the Ozai probably likes to make himself feel superior in all matters, including fashion. Zero 08:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

So... should we change the image? While it's a close up of his face, it's more eye catching than the other. At least for me. Omnibender 21:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

It does look cooler, and Ozai would most likely want that crown on because it makes himself look cooler Felinoel 23:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
We're changing it then? Omnibender 00:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I would, I mean it looks better for one, and for another reason it shows the difference in crowns those ranks have Felinoel 01:19, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

It's settled then. Omnibender 01:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Previous Pheonix Kings

The Avatar before Yangchen was a Pheonix King according to "Avatar Legends".BGizzles45 02:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

What? But she was air, was she a Phoenic King or just a ruler of the world? Felinoel 03:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

The only thing known about the Avatar before Yangchen is that he was from the Fire Nation, unless that information can be sourced, (magazine scan, interview, youtube video...) there's no way we can add it. I think it's a fake, Ozai pretty much invented the Phoenix King title. Omnibender 21:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh the one before Yangchen Felinoel 01:27, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

You mean the Unknown Fire Avatar. I've had no indications whatsoever that the title Pheonix King even existed before Ozaiu made it. I agree with Omni. Its probably a fake. And what's Avatar Legends? Zero 11:17, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that was the magazine articles title? Felinoel 15:20, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


Since this was such a short lived title, this could be removed from the Avatar Universe template. Your thoughts. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I think it should be removed. The 888th Avatar - Talk 22:18, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

The point of the template is to have a place where people can easily go to different pages. If we remove it, it makes it that much harder to find this page. Puragus Talk 22:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but the title is too short-lived and too insignificant. I'm sure people will be able to go to that page easily from "Fire Lord", because really it is Fire Lord related. The 888th Avatar - Talk 23:04, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

That still makes it harder. I'm talking about navigation. Length and significance are irrelevant. This is a page that a lot of users might want to easily find, and they won't be able to. Puragus Talk 23:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Very well then. The 888th Avatar - Talk 23:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

It may be short lived. But it was still an important part of the series. But if everyone feels that it should be removed then OK. Zero Sign - Zero - Talk 13:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

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