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Momo wasn't frozen like Aang and Appa, which could explain why others recognise the winged lemur species...he could have be born afterwards. 123.211.47.94 09:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


C'mon! We need some sources here!-Darth Clinton

Roku?

Although it doesn't seem to have amounted to anything, some early episodes featuring Momo seem to suggest that he may have some connection to Avatar Roku. There were a couple of instances in Book 1, e.g. in "The Southern Air Temple" and "Winter Solstice Part 1" and some others, in which Momo seems to perk up or appear just when Aang has commented out loud that he needs to talk to Roku and doesn't know how. Just something I noticed. -- Supermorff 11:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Cat-like

Momo's behavior is more cat-like than that of real life lemurs.

lol yea, in one of the episode commentaries they said they made Momo's movements by watching how a cat would react Felinoel 03:28, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

undo?

Vaz, does that mean it comes out or does it means it needs adding to. Surely the answer is to expand with accurate information. Otherwise you are asking for a serious amount of work from one person. Lot of journeys.

Ummmmm.......I didn't ask for it to be rewritten. But apparently, Flash did it, ergo he is up to it. BTW, I reverted your edit because yes, I do expect many more journeys to be added. They don't have to be in great detail, they just can't jump all the way to Book 2. Vaznock - Talk 23:07, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Plus, its not just for you.........Vaznock - Talk 23:13, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Well I thought I was encouraging with a kick start, seems it;s all or nothing :|. I see your adding titles though and left out book one. I'm confused, what;s not just for me? find out after a goodnight's sleep! Piandao Talk 23:17, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I added the headings because Journeys and Discovery are not the same at all, so I expanded the headings. As for the comment, "not just for you", you said that rewriting the article would be a lot for one person, and you gave the impression that you think your the only one who has the privilege to edit the Improvement Article. Vaznock - Talk 23:31, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

No, Vaznock. I said for one person, not for me. I know I do not have time to focus on that. A thought though, why are we adding journeys? It's not done for Appa. I have not seen it elsewhere.Piandao Talk 07:53, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but this article is not for one person to change. Its for everybody to change. Plus, the headings are there to keep the page more organized. That's all. Vaznock - Talk 18:42, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Fine we agree it's not for one person, Ergo, one person can not complete it, a person added content, it was removed for not being complete (to that stage). Thus you are expecting complete edit from one person. Perhaps it's me Vaznock, we take a while to get on the same page. Q journeys still - is it a new idea? Will it be the same for other articles?Piandao Talk 19:13, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Piandao, you don't have to edit all the way up to Book 2. You could of just written the first few episodes........Vaznock - Talk 19:14, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Add as i find Vaznock, best I can do. I'm backing off the project as it seems to need doing in order (not sure if that's policy or an unwritten code). Also I'm a slow typer (probably 20WPM), I can not spend another night debating with you and not enjoying it. Debating instead of creating. Piandao Talk 19:24, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Debating? Dude, I'm the overseer of these edits. You need to write the journeys in order, from the start to end. That's all. Vaznock - Talk 19:39, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Did not know about the appointment or the position Vaznock -congrats!

Thanks, actually, I somewhat appointed myself. :P Vaznock - Talk 19:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Come on Vaz/Custodian of the Momo Project, sounds a little self righteous and distrustful at best. Piandao Talk 20:10, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I was kinda kidding. Trust me, I won't abuse this position. Vaznock - Talk 20:12, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

You were only "kinda" kidding? That doesn't seem too assuring? felinoel ~ (Talk) 23:21, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
While no-one is the "leader" of the improvement drive, it can be said that Vaznock is the supervisor. I think it is more correct to say that he is the supervisor not by self-appointment, but because of his position on The Ba Sing Se Times. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 23:24, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, its not a higher position. In fact, I'm going to make a blog on this. Vaznock - Talk 23:26, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I think it's fare to say that any article on any wiki is a cooperative project, and those that care (user to crat), are all supervisors, however if someone wants to spend more time on an article (in any way for it's good), that's up to them. I don't see the need for one item to be supervised, it's showing lack of trust - what about the other umpteen stubs?. I have to express my view that this supervision is unnecessary guys. Piandao Talk 23:37, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

But this is a cooperative project. I supervise the Improvement article, mostly because a community member can't say, "Hey, I think I deserve a certificate, so I'll just ask for one". Plus, have you seen the changes to Avatar:Legends of the Arena? They're great. With the whole community evaluating it, things will be a mess. Plus, I can't and won't abuse my power. Supervision is necessary, because users can't reward themselves. Vaznock - Talk 23:42, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, I don't think you're getting what we mean by "supervisor". The "supervisor" doesn't oversee the editing of the project. In that, the supervisor is equal to everyone else. The "supervisor" is merely the person who chooses the articles, and rewards those that work on them. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 23:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes Piandao, 888 is exactly right as always XD. its no higher position, I just watch, read until policy is fufilled, and reward. Vaznock - Talk 23:46, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

As more overseeing, I meant reading. Vaznock - Talk 23:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Well this is sticking in my craw. Here's how it looks.
  • Suggestion for article improvement by editor BSST
  • Certificate (carrot) awarded by BSST editor
  • New role/appointment self awarded by BSST editor.
  • Supported By BSST Publisher/Media Mogul :)

It has the flavor of nepotism but I know that's not the intention. Is the BSST running the article? The BSST can not run/dictate over an article - period. It truly is unsatisfactory, unnecessary and what was meant to be fun and a good idea, has turned into something that I feel is heading off track. Again we are all editors and care takers - can we not be trusted to do the work? I expect the 'project' to be read through by you Vaznock. I just don' believe the approach is correct. Piandao Talk 08:44, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I still don't think you're getting the meaning of this. The BSST doesn't run the article, end of story. The whole point of these improvement articles is to raise awareness for some of the crappiest articles on the wiki. The awards are given simply to encourage people to edit these articles, and further raise awareness. The BSST is not permitted however to dictate what edits should stay on the page. If edits are reverted, it is not because of the BSST, it is merely an editorial disagreement (quite normal) that should be resolved here. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 08:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
By the way, I took a look at the article's history and I do have to agree, Vaznock, that you're in the wrong - Piandao's edit was fine, I don't think reverting it was quite necessary. We don't have to necessarily write in order, even though people like to do that. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 09:17, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Beat me to the punch with my long reply - but I'll paste it here anyway. I understand what the BSST is doing and support the idea. Lets get the editing issue over with, I acted in good faith to improve the article and Vaznock undid it (acting in good faith. Neither of us are vandals or have any bad intentions towards each other. I usually want to understand the reverts and learn from it. I'm okay with it other than I was on the case of researching.

Where this coagulated was the self-appointment and support of the appointment from you (888). It is totally unnecessary, it creates a tier of management and worse case subjugation, the project belongs to every one with equality for all. I'm not hurt over it. I'm frankly annoyed that the 'supervising/overseeing ever came up. If Vaznck chose to monitor (he should btw), then that's his business. We all have the right to monitor a project, people that care will normally do that. Piandao Talk 09:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm trying to get you to understand that BSST is not involved at all in what actually goes on the page. That's a community reponsibility, and we are all equal in that regard. The "supervisor" (why is it even called that?) does not "supervise" edits to the page. It only "supervises" choosing that article, and awards those who have worked on it. If this "supervisor" is trying to exert "ownership" over the article, then that is wrong; however, I haven't seen that. What I've seen is a mere editorial dispute. Let's keep BSST out of this, because that's clearly not the problem. You (Piandao) and Vaznock simply need to resolve an editorial dispute, which happens on any page on this wiki. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 09:38, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

<quote> it can be said that Vaznock is the supervisor. I think it is more correct to say that he is the supervisor not by self-appointment, but because of his position on The Ba Sing Se Times.</quote> Okay, you brought it in. How did I read that wrong? Supervisor, appointment, approval, from BSST... No Spin and no journalistic flare from me :). I can only read it one way, but I'm clearly not seeing something. Lets say we take the last statement as a retraction of the inserted quote (and leave the BSST and "Vaz's Position on the BSST out of it). Vaz and I have our differences over some but not all things. Won't be the last, but hopefully we will be understanding each other better very soon. I'll add that I understand where Vaz is coming from (pet project - fine), but the behaviour (openly self appointed authority and you condoning it), as opposed to advice is fraught with problems for the future. I have not bitter intentions or even a bitter taste over it. The way it was done was with poor taste though. Sounds like my tummy talking, it's hungry I guess. Piandao Talk 10:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not retracting the quoted comment. That was in response to you saying that Vaznock was "self-appointed", which is not true. I, as the person who puts together the BSST (chief editor), am completely responsible for anything that I put on the paper, including items other users wrote. Because of this, the buck stops with me - I let Vaznock pursue his "Improvement Article" idea as part of the paper. Hence my reaction to all this. (I should note however that I do not claim to "own" the paper - I, like other community newsletter editors on other wikis, merely "supervise" the publishing of it as a service to others.)
I don't think I established clearly enough exactly what I meant by supervisor in that previous comment you quote from. However, I did provide this information upon being prodded for further details, with the clear statement that supervisors cannot decide what goes on the page and in what order it is added. I do have a very good idea of how wikis should work (otherwise I wouldn't be an admin); therefore, I do know very clearly that no-one can dictate what goes on a page, and you can trust me to remember that. You can say that you have no bitterness over it, but clearly, you are a little at least, which is why I'm still trying to explain the role of BSST in all this. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 11:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
888, I give you full credit for taking on the task of chief editor and finding time and energy to do it. Leaving BSST out of it - therefore it has no role on all this, other than it's welcomed nudge into the editing arena. Does it just need the BSST editor to monitor for certification. Empasising that I fully trust Vaznock to monitior, award the certificate and to appraise it in the BSST and he'll likely do a great job.
Does the article need supervision? It was my understanding that wikis do not require supervision as they are continually read, updated/edited and poor work -> vandalism is dealt with by those that take the responsibility on themselves. User -> crat can all edit/undo at the very minimum.
I trust you on the page dictation, trust me to know my feelings - not bitter, no axe to grind, no ...etc. I was perhaps tired and if it comes over that way - then please accept my apology. Piandao Talk 12:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
That's great - I'm happy to know I successfully explained myself - and thanks for the compliments!
About the "supervision" of the wiki - all wikis are, in a way, "supervised". The content and policies of the wiki is supervised by each other - the whole community. Behaviour and tidiness on the wiki - "law enforcement" (bad term to use I know) - on the other hand is supervised by the admins - hence the ability to block and delete. The admins in turn are accountable to the community. So it's all a little confusing as to who "supervises" the wiki - different people may say different things.
Finally, don't feel the need to apologise; I think we all tripped up here explaining ourselves to each other, including myself - despite my experience in wiki discussion, I still failed to fully explain what I meant by "supervisor" when I first made that comment. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 12:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I undid the edit, but I was planning to organize the heading, so that edit would of been lost in the process. Sorry. Vaznock - Talk 14:36, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Siege of the North

Wow, good work so far Avatar Junky. Perhaps, however, you could add some info on the Siege of the North? Vaznock - Talk 19:41, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Foot notes

No 9 and 10 do not work (for me) Piandao Talk

Ten works but nine is not. Also in the unaired pilot, Bryan Konietzko mentioned his childhood cat, buddy, and said he likes to draw Momo the best. Katara-dobs-c2 - Avatar Junky -Talk 21:33, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Image Clutter

I have removed File:Momo1.png, due to image clutter in the article. Mattkenn3 Talk 01:27, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, that image is pretty important. Perhaps another image could be removed? Vaznock - Talk 01:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. It is all a matter of positioning. I don't see anywhere else it could fit in. It will definately squish the content if it remains in the spot it was in. What do you think? Mattkenn3 Talk 16:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks good. Vaznock - Talk 19:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Movie Momo

I just saw the latest trailer for The Last Airbender, and it had a brief shot of Momo jumping onto Aang's shoulder. I'm suprised at how realistic he looks in this! Hiroakira Fengxian (talkcontribs) 19:06, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Clearification Requested

In the trivia section it says "Momo is the only member of Team Avatar to join Aang in the Spirit World.". When was this? I don't recall seeing Momo go into the spirit world. Cresh Osk (talkcontribs) 02:47, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect Ethnicity

I would like to point out that the page lists Momo having an ethicity to the Air Nomads, but I think that Air Nomads refers to the group people alone and not the animals. So the correct ethnicity for Momo would be "Flying Lemur-bat" with a link refering to the page listing the animals found in the Avatar series.


WilliamLazycat (wallcontribs) 18:55, August 30, 2012 (UTC)