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Is it possible to say that both Tui and La have genders as most spirits usually do? Why I ask this is because of their actions in the last few eps. of Book 1. I theorize that La would be a male spirit because he wants brutal revenge (not just revenge) on Zhao for killing off (or merely destroying) his mate's mortal form, which is why he was probably allowing Aang to merge with him. I would also say that Tui is a female spirit, since she passes on a portion of her energy to save Yue when she was born. When Tui's mortal body died, Yue passes on the energy from her to become the new moon spirit, leading it only to be that the successor of the moon could only possibly be a woman.

Thnx,

H-Man Havoc 12:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree with this; it also makes sense that, as a yin-yang relationship, one would be male, and the other female (though the black half is supposed be female, and also stands for the moon). I have already changed the gender-neutral forms several times; if someone changes them back, please feel free to correct them. telane 18:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Except that in the show, they are reversed to make it plausible for the moon to be replaced by Yue's spirit. Also, Tui, meaning "push" in Chinese, sounds very similar and is phonetically similar to Yue, which means "moon" in Chinese.

H-Man Havoc 19:14, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

separate pages?[]

why do tui and la have separate pages? the bulk of the information is exactly the same and it fits that they would have a single page based on numerous aspects, such as the fact that they are "mates," the original waterbenders, they are seen only together until tui is killed, so on and so forth. in more blatant terms: I suggest the pages be merged. The image for the page would be the same as that on tui's page, which features both tui and la.

Although they seem inseperable they are still two different beings Felinoel 06:44, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Koizilla[]

It seems while I was busy with finals Koizilla had gotten sent again to the vote for deletion page, and this time instead of keeping the article, it had gotten merged with half of what it is. That does not make sense, Koizilla is part La and part Aang, why isn't there anything on Aang's page about Koizilla? Both waterbending and airbending mention cloudbending, why seperate Koizilla but not cloudbending? felinoel ~ (Talk) 09:46, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Very well, just add a little bit of Koizilla to Aang's History section. 888th Avatar - Talk - Contributions 10:03, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Which one is Tui and which one is La?[]

Hi, Avatar Spirit says that La is the moon/female and that Tui is the Ocean/male. Which one is correct? Thanks!

Well since they represent yin and yang, one could only assume yin is female and the black one, while yang is male and the white one, and please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~). felinoel ~ (Talk) 07:36, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Koizilla?[]

Is that really what it's called? dudewaldo4 02:14, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

It's a name created by fans. Perhaps the page should clarify that... Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 10:11, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
It's not a fan nickname, it's a staff nickname. I forgot who coined it, but if you listen to the commentary on the DVD, they call it Koizilla. I think it's on the storyboard or model sheet pictures too. Dancing Dragon (talkcontribs) 12:04, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yin and Yang vs. Tui and La[]

The symbolism vs. the color doesn't make sense. Tui is supposed to represent feminism, night time and negative energy because Tui is the yin in the yin yang. La is supposed to represent masculinity, daytime and positive energy because La is the yang in the yin yang. Tui shows qualities of feminism with its gentle nature and giving life to Princess Yue. La shows qualities of masculinity as shown by his rage at the killing of his mate and his killing of Zhao. However, I looked up that in the yin yang, yin is black and yang is white because they represent the night and the day. In the show though Tui is white and La is black. I don't understand it.


Windsword7 (talkcontribs) 18:34, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Um, I've been doing some looking around and whoever decided who Tui and La are got them mixed up. Because, Tui should be the black one and La the moon. As Yin is the Ocean, female, the black half of the yin yang symbol and yang represents the white half, male, Moon.

When Zhao killed the moon spirit the moon disappeared, so what would have happened if he killed the ocean spirit would the ocean disappear?

probably or it could become unbendable or posibly nothing would happen which is why Zhao didn't use itCourage the CowardlySokka-sprite 03:02, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

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