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Deceased[]
If Katara saw her mother in the swamp, and visions of people in the swamp are of people we think we have lost but are still around and/or someone we will meet in the future... Then that statement does not work... Felinoel 04:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Wow, your not all that bright, she is dead! Scott 14:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- As I said, it was said if they saw a person in the swamp that means they think they lost them but they did not or they will meet that person in the future, I remember Katara saying her mother was killed, and I must have forgotten that Katara sees her mother in the swamp, until I read this article, but I do remember what those illusions in the swamp mean. Like Yue, Sokka saw her as dead when she wasn't exactly dead Felinoel 14:59, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Yue is physically dead, her case is a special circumstance, her "life force" along with her spirit became the new incarnation of the Moon. Her body is dead, but her soul/mind/spirit lives on. Omnibender 16:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- ... but thats not what I am talking about, I was just using her as an example, and you really didn't say anything different from what I just said Felinoel 16:34, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I think that their mother is dead, and until the show gives a concrete evidence, or even bluntly obvious hints of her living (like they do with Kataang), she remains dead to me. Omnibender 16:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- Is either of my first statements on this page wrong? Am I missing something here? Because if not that is at least hinting it to me Felinoel 16:50, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok, now I'm confused. Who was saying what? Omnibender 16:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- Here is my first staement on this page, tell me if eiither of these things are wrong...
- "If Katara saw her mother in the swamp, and visions of people in the swamp are of people we think we have lost but are still around and/or someone we will meet in the future... Then that statement does not work..."
- I was talking about her being deceased Felinoel 16:54, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- I rewatched the swamp episode, watch it yourselves if you don't believe me but their mom is alive, I am changing deceased Felinoel 00:16, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Katara said it herself, she's dead!
- Just because someone thinks something, doesn't make it true, and please leave your name Gaoling, four tildas Felinoel 00:41, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
She's not alive, she has been mentioned be have been killed in a FN raid multiple times. Making her alive know is like turning Azula good. Omnibender 00:48, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- And guess who it was every time saying her mother died in a fire nation raid, "making her alive now"? She has been known to be alive since the swamp episode Felinoel 00:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that Katara would know if her own Mother was alive. And in the swamp, Hue said that we see people we've lost. Gaoling
- Odd, the captions on my television said his name was "Hugh", but I Have alwasy seen it as "Huu" to match his friends, anyways an actual quote of what he said was "folks we thought we have lost" Felinoel 00:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I think Huu meant it as more of a symbolic thing, like they're not really gone as long as there are people who still love them, or they still live in their loved one's hearts, that sort of thing. I don't think he was saying that Katara's mom was actually alive.Puragus 01:02, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Fine, it doesn't matter, the series is about to end anyways, I saved a copy of how I had the article, lets wait and see Felinoel 01:04, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Naming her[]
For some odd reason people keep trying to name her NMOKAS, although some fans might call her that, I don't see the need for it in her article, any disagreements/agreements? Felinoel 03:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
I FIRMLY DISAGREE... Not realy i think you are correct ~ Daniel 03:38, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
That's what a lot of fans call her. We don't need to make it her name or anything, but it's a good piece of trivia.Puragus 03:49, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
- Then put it in a trivia box or whatever, not in the main article Felinoel 04:28, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Done.Puragus 05:33, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
The whole article cites her name as Kaya, but the title is Kya... someone fix this!!! BHynes10
- It was assumed to be Kya because Katara is named that in the pilot, but apparently the nick site lists her as Kaya, so it will be as soon as an admin notices Felinoel 02:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Not just because of that, during the Ember Island preview right after the episode aired, you can see the credits, and the spelling of her name there is "Kya". I only found out the other spelling when I went to Nick's site. As usual, I side with the site, and if no one else disagrees, I'll move the page to the name "Kaya". Omnibender 23:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well I would side with the credits... Felinoel 23:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- There is an obvious, valid discrepancy (sorry if i botched the spelling) but i would side with the site, so i vote "Kaya" BHynes10
- Why side against the show itself? Felinoel 03:42, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- I gave this matter more thought and I changed my mind. As far as pronunciation goes, I do believe the site's spelling is more correct, but since Kya was the first spelling to be presented, and the originated from the pilot, I think it's best to leave the article until a more official source, like Mike and Bryan or a Nick magazine gives the verdict. If the edit war on the name continues, I'll protect the page and add a note at the trivia part, either explaining the rationale, or telling people to come here and read it themselves. Omnibender 16:03, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- I vote Kaya in the avatar extras it clearly says Kaya while Yagoda is speaking to Katara in I believe The Siege of the North episode Tigerangel27 aa (talk • contribs) 05:29, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
The person Yugoda referred to in the Waterbending Master was Kanna, Katara's grandmother. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:26, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, but before y'all named the page Kya (nonbender), you should have thougt about the fact that she was, in fact a bender, given that hakoda is a nonbender, she even admitted being one, and yet, people make her sacrifice about lying to protect katara, but it was also protecting the village, she was a real waterbender —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avatar-varrick (wall • contribs) 22:53, October 29, 2014
- Kya was not a waterbender, she was a nonbender as stated. She lied to Yon Rha about being a waterbender to protect Katara. HAMMEROFTHØR (wall) • 20:34, October 30, 2014 (UTC)
vandalism[]
Taken care of. Omnibender 17:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- Someone keeps doing it, I changed it back the last time Felinoel 21:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- IF this keeps going, I can protect, or semi-protect the page. Omnibender 21:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Yangchen[]
That's not what I meant. What I meant is that Yangchen appears AFTER Kya so she shouldn't be mentioned here because it makes it seem like she appeared before.
--8th Mizukage 04:04, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
That can easily be fixed by modifying the sentence, like adding "and later, Yangchen".Puragus 04:12, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Kaya[]
I believe her official spelling to her name isn't Katara's original name. I believe it's spelt Kaya with an extra A.
- This discussion is old, "Kaya" is Nick's spelling for it, but on the episode's credits it is spelled "Kya" felinoel ~ (Talk) 05:48, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, she is clearly called "Kaya" in Avatar Extras.
minor character?![]
How is Kya a minor character? she is mentioned many times, one of the reasons the southern warriors left, and she was shown to leave an impact on Katara imensly (i misspelled that big time) even bringing so close to killing I would say she is a major secondary character Mutantkingmagneto 02:26, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- But she is seen very little. Aside from her impact on her family, we know litle about her. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 03:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
But the whole Southern Raiders episode is about her!!! Otherwise Katara and Zuko never would have made up!!!--Theavatarisback 15:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Major secondary is completely out of the question. Even though she had a large impact on the story, she still had no where near as much of a roll as Mai, Ty Lee, Suki, or Ozai. I even question why Ursa is listed. Vaznock - Talk 21:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
"the Puppetmaster"[]
In the Puppetmaster they showed us where they took all the southern waterbenders and if they thought that Kya was a waterbender wouldnt they have taken her to that prison place , and we were never told if they killed the waterbenders or not, and even though that was awhile ago they wouldnt have taken all that care to keep them as prisoners if they were just going to kill them and we were never showed her dying, just that when katara left she had disapeared. also when Katara confronted him all he said was that he had done a bad thing he never once mentioned that he had killed her. so i think that she was taken captive and may have even escaped and be living in the fire nation just like Hama.
- Hama was a young woman when she was taken, there were 60 years between her being taken and meeting Katara. Kya wasn't even born during that time, so when Hama was taken, she was the last waterbender in the village. Somewhere in an interview, Mike and Bryan said that even if a waterbender was born after that, they wouldn't have anyone to teach them, and bending is something that has to be nurtured so it becomes a skill. Without anyone to teach, even if potential benders were born, they didn't have how to nurture their potential, until Katara came along and managed to teach herself. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:17, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
well, that doesnt mean that they wouldnt take her captive so that she couldnt learn. so i still think thats theres a chance that shes still alive.
No there isn't. Yon Rha said he wasn't taking any prisoners that day, and when Katara and Hakoda got to their home, he was gone, but they still found her body. If her mother was taken captive, it would have been in the story. It's tragic, but she's dead.
Move page[]
I think that the Kya page should be moved to "Kaya". The Avatar Commentary in "The Southern Raiders" references to her as Kaya. --Cole2 (talk • contribs) 03:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
Kya should be changed to Kaya[]
Kaya is stated as Katara and Sokka's mothers name by Yagoda the healing teacher, if you will, of the Northern Water tribe, in the Siege of the North Part one ( I think..) and it should be changed on this wiki page... Tigerangel27 aa (talk • contribs) 05:19, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
Apparently this discussions been brought up before so look further up on this page.The Freak of Nature Twilitlink 05:28, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
Nearly two years on and no change... If anyone has seen Word of God on this please say so; otherwise I propose we reopen the debate. The 'Kya' spelling is present only in the episode credits, whereas 'Kaya' appears on the old Nick site and in the Avatar Extras for the episode, and is a more natural spelling given the pronunciation. The consensus further up this page seems to be pro-'Kaya', so why are we still using 'Kya'? 66.30.119.16 13:33, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
Katara's Necklace[]
If the article is reminding the fact that Sokka is less connected to his mother than Katara (by telling Toph he doesn't remember how his mother looks like), maybe should be added something about Katara's necklace she got from her mother, and she from her mother (Kanna), which was made to her by Pakku, since it was planned they would marry, until she escaped. Galzigler (wall • contribs) 11:55, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
- It is mentioned in the trivia. =] Nothing on the article outright says her mother gave it to her..despite Katara saying her mother did. The reason? Her mother very well may not have been able to. I mean; she was dead...and she was last seen wearing the necklace. So we're just left with speculation with how the necklace came into Katara's hands. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 13:04, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
Rename Kya to Kya (Avatar: The Last Airbender)[]
Why this page name is still Kya and not just Kya (Avatar: The Last Airbender) since there is another Kya in The Legend of Korra?-- King Marth 64 (talk • other wikis • blogs) http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k576/DigiPen92/th_20px-Marthsprite.gif 
18:13, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
We have a distinguishing factor for the other Kya -- specifically Kya. Katara and Bolin Fanboy Send me a messenger hawk 
18:23, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
- But isn't this spose to rename it in order to avoid confusion from the other fans mistakenly for the other Kya in The Legend of Korra?-- King Marth 64 (talk • other wikis • blogs) http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k576/DigiPen92/th_20px-Marthsprite.gif 18:28, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
- Confusion is eliminated by showing that the Kya for LoK is a waterbender -- which we put in the page. Katara and Bolin Fanboy Send me a messenger hawk
18:29, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
- Confusion is eliminated by showing that the Kya for LoK is a waterbender -- which we put in the page. Katara and Bolin Fanboy Send me a messenger hawk