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invention

what do you mean past avatars?,aang discovered this tecknique,not even a teckneque,an entirely new bending,the first avatars probebly had nothingto do with it,then theres the fact that the lion turtle taght him,and he wasn't in the avatar state,he was meditatin and concentrating,if he was in the avatar state they would have killed ozie The bloodbender666 08:58, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


The lion-turtle clearly states "In the era BEFORE THE AVATAR we bent not the elements, but the energy within ourselves... To bend another's energy, your own spirit must be unbendable or you will be corrupted and destroyed." So yeah, Bloodbender666 is right, no previous avatar was aware of this technique. The "wisdom" of all the previous avatars was to kill Ozai. The Avatar state would have done just that, so Aang's use of spiritbending has nothing to do with the Avatar state. So basically the entire "Benders" section of this article is wrong. :P Sahasrahla

Is it just me or did you guys also notice the similarity between the beam of light released by Aang close to the end of Spiritbending Ozai's energy, and the beam of light released upon the breaking of the Iceberg in which Aang was trapped in the beginning of the show. Is it possible that what we may be wrong when we say that Aang is the first Avatar to ever spiritbend? Zero 06:27, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think we are, there is no indication other avatars, at least the cycle before Aang knew about it, otherwise they would've mentioned it to Aang when he called them for advise. Omnibender 15:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Note to Readers: Nick.com has released information that few Avatars other than Aang have learned energybending and even fewer have ever used it due to its dangers. Obviously the last four avatars before Aang havent learned or used it, otherwise they might have suggested it in passing at least. Zero - Talk 14:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Why is this called Spirit bending?

Why is this called Spiritbending? The Lion Turtle instructed to Aang that to bend one's life energy, etc. Would this not be called Life Energy Bending? Or Energy Bending? Not a big deal, just curious. Spiritbending is "catchy" though.

if you mean real energy,thats reserved for firebenders,heat light electiciti,mentioned by the sun warriors,but another name is chi bending could work The bloodbender666 06:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Because it bends the Spirit. it is spirit that determines how strong a bender are you. that's why. Zero 07:18, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

If nick.com has declared it Energybending then its a good thing you guys fixed the problem. Zero 06:21, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I think it'd be more prudent to call it Soulbending. That way it fits well with the naming of the other Bending arts. Also, the terms Spiritbending and Energybending sounds too generic if you ask me. Teimoshi 12:25, 15 June 2010

If Nick.com calls it Energybending, it doesn't matter what "sounds better." That's an official source, we must stick to it. --I'm The Bos - Got something to say? - Read Guardian! 10:16, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
....guys, this discussion is from two years ago. So, I guess since it's been resolved, I'll just add the template. Avatar Talk 13:44, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
This discussion was resolved. The result of this discussion was:

It's Energybending, that's the official source, and that's what we're going with.

If you wish to restart this discussion, please post under a new subheading below.

Stub Status

Should we get rid of the stub status for this article? It seems to be a fully realized article right now, albeit short. There is still lengthening to be done, but I do not think it is in any way a stub any more. BHynes10 22:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding New Edit: Is it Clear that the Lion Turtle was explaining that Lion Turtles Bent Life Energy?

The new edit explains that Lion Turtles bent life energy in the days before the Avatar. But the quote was "In the era before the Avatar, we bent not the element but the energy within ourselves." I do not believe the sentence is definitive enough to identify that Lion Turtles bent life energy. Instead, the original edit that did not specify anyone is better. The quote said by the Lion Turtle is too ambiguous to warrant a definitive identity.

Cryptblade 22:42, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Agreed BHynes10 22:44, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree on the stub status. About the lion turtle, I think that it did Spiritbend. When it touches Aang, it does so in the exact same spots he does at Ozai, and the same green light appears. Omnibender 23:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Like the other original benders I think that the Lion Turtles were the original spiritbenders. He refered to the spirit benders as we and he taught Aang how to Spiritbend, like the Dragons taught the firebenders, the Air Bisons taught the earthbenders, etc, etc. He said "We bent not the elements but the energy within". I think they Are the original spiritbenders. Zero 06:52, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree, as soon as we have that confirmed by any canon source, we add it to the article. Omnibender 15:03, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I still don't think we can make that clarification until there is more definitive data to say the Lion Turtle was refering to Lion Turtles in "we" or "we" as in life. The pronoun "we" is still too ambiguous to definitively say that the Lion Turtle was referring to "we Lion Turtles". My interpretation, because he used "era" is that "we" refers to all life. Because to say "in the era" is to refer to an undefined time period. I find it hard to believe that in the era preceding the Avatar, only Lion Turtles could bend. The line he said was "In the era before the Avatar, we bend not the elements, but the energy within ourselves." The context points to more than just the Lion Turtles. Also, there is no indication that all Lion Turtles can spiritbend or bend any other elements. It's a huge jump to conclusion without more definitive establishments. One thing that CAN be inferred is that the Lion Turtle's statement implies that before the Avatar, bending elements was not practiced. This could be placed in Trivia, perhaps. Cryptblade 23:35, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

True yet not true. We does refer to general but I think he was talking about benders in general. Like present day world I think the old world could also be divided into benders and non benders. However this also brings about the relationship between original benders and human benders I think the Lion Turtles were the original spiritbenders who first taught the human sipritbenders. Hiowever It seems that something happened that caused the replacement of spiritbending with element bending. Maybe the spiritbenders realized the dangers of spiritbending and decided that the danger was too great, so they abandoned it. They may have even spiritbent themselves and changed the bending into element bending. Who knows? Zero 07:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I guess we'll only have some real info when Nick.com is updated, it should show up at gear and more section of the last episode. Omnibender 14:20, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Confirmation

Nick.com updated the Avatar site, it's everything we already knew for sure, but it's named Energybending, and past Avatars have learned, though very few did, and even fewer used it. Omnibender 19:41, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Can someone provide the link from Nick.com that verifies that it's call Energybending not Spiritbending? Someone just changed this page to back to Spiritbending. Cryptblade 05:11, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I checked it out it is called energy bending so i changed it back. Heres the link: http://www.nick.com/shows/avatar/index.jhtml Zero 11:58, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Nick's site is a flash site, that just links to the main page. From that page, go to the episode 320, and see the section Gear and More, it's the second item, image is Aang Firebending. Omnibender 16:02, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Ty Lee and Chi

Don't Ty Lee's abilities also fall under the umbrella of EnergyBending?

No I dont think so. Energybending uses bending to bend the energy within a body. Ty Lee uses physical attacks to block the flow of Chi within a body. They are not the same thing. You dont see Ty Lee turning a different color either. Zero - Talk 12:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Then what about her Aura-stuff seeing abilities? That has to related at some level.71.65.17.234 15:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Your aura is an invisible force around your body. It is thought also to brighten or dim dependent on your spiritual being. It is said if you are able to focus hard enogh and keep your spirit calm enough you can see it.

It can kill

Text from nick.com: "The Lion Turtle teaches Aang a technique available only to the Avatar: the ability to take away someone's bending. Only a very few Avatars have ever learned this technique and even fewer have used it, for it is very dangerous to do. In order to bend another's energy, an Avatar's own energy must be pure and unbendable. If not, the enemy's corrupted energy can take over the Avatar's energy and kill him. Ozai's bad, red energy nearly overtakes Aang's good, white energy, but Aang, being a pure, uncorrupted being, was able to overcome it and take Ozai's bending away."

It can kill. Omnibender 17:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Ooooooooooooooooo... OK. Zero - Talk 17:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

mistakes and questions

i just read the avatar page, it says that only avatars can bend energy, this is wrong isn't. because the lion-turtle say in the time before the avatar. Does this mean any bender could use it? could you bend the avatar sprit of an avatar?

Possible plot hole, but I think that the ability is unique to the Avatar as of the moment the Avatar came to be, as in currently. Omnibender - Talk 17:12, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I think there weren't benders then, I don't even think there were humans then felinoel ~ (Talk) 08:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Maybe. Maybe not. See: Regarding New Edit: Is it Clear that the Lion Turtle was explaining that Lion Turtles Bent Life Energy? Section of this talk page. Zero Sign - Zero - Talk 10:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

 :/ Couldn't you have linked it? felinoel ~ (Talk) 19:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Why would I have wasted my time linking it when its only a few mouse wheel scrolls away? Zero Sign - Zero - Talk 09:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Hypothetical uses

If he can take away someone's bending, couldn't he also give bending to someone? He's the last airbender, if balance is crucial, wouldn't this be the method for repopulating the air nomads?

We don't have a clue. 71.65.17.234 15:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I have the same theory--Unic of the borg 00:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Just as Firebending is revealed as not just a source of chaos and destruction in Episode 53, "The Firebending Masters", I feel that Energybending can do so much more than just lock the bending energy of another person. Especially since Energybending existed BEFORE Elemental Bending. I personally believe that only one who has mastered all of the elements (Avatar) can lock and unlock another person's bending. Hydronisa 19:19, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

About Energybending not being mentioned in the series

I think that it is inaccurate how energybending wasn't mentioned in the series. It is indirctly mentioned when the lion turtle said, in the era before the Avatar, we bend not the elements but the energy within ourselves. Then the lion turtle goes on the say, to bend another's energy...

I believe that when the lion turtle said to bend another's energy, energybending is indirectly mentioned. By listening to context clues, one can figure out that energybending was mentioned in the series. I'd like to hear what you guys think about this. Haefaciel 14:01, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's not directly mentioned, so I don't know. We shouldn't make too many assumptions. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 14:02, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I thought it said that the term energybending is not mentioned in the series. Not the bending Aang used itself. Get it. The word used for the bedning was not mentioned. Zero Sign - Zero - Talk 06:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Aether: The "classical 5th element"

Shouldn't it technically be Aetherbending and/or made references to Aether. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_(classical_element) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_element Yes I have read everything on these pages. It just isn't right.

Nick.com calls it Energybending. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:41, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

"Everything is... connected."

Could other aspects of the Avatar be considered Energybending? Three cases:

1: The Avatar State. Beyond just having the ability to bend all four elements, the Avatar has the ability to amplify their bending powers to epic proportions. Where does this power come from? What exactly is "cosmic energy"?

2: Spirit journeys. The Avatar has the ability to disembody their spirit and interact with the spirit world. Why does only the Avatar seem to have the power to do it at will?

3: "Everything is... connected". What did Aang do exactly to find Appa in the Swamp? Could Guru Pathik be an Energybender as well, also considering his knowledge of Chakras? Pathik also "read" Appa's mind/heart/spirit/whatever through contact (with one of Appa's chakras?), and then the Lion Turtle actually imparted knowledge by contact with two of Aang's chakras.

--MadCat221 01:19, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

1 Epic bending power comes from him channeling the power of all previous Avatars. Most likely, cosmic energy is the power of past Avatars.
2 Because the Avatar is the spirit of the planet incarnate.
3 Nick.com said that only Avatars can use Energybending. My guess is that while Lion Turtles are able to use it, they're not able to use it to its fullest potential. Whatever Pathik did, it wasn't Energybending. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:53, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Correct name

Alright, so, not to beat a dead horse here, but the title of this article seems a bit amiss. The term "energybending" was never used in the series, nor is it used on Nick's website. The website does say "bending energy", but it never says "energybending". Therefore, I propose that a change be made to the title of the article, as to avoid assuming things. KFan II 02:34, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Do you have a better alternative to the current name? As far as I am aware, "energybending" is the most commonly used term. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 03:08, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
Earlier on this discussion Omnibender says the Nick website confirmed it as Energybending, although now I think the info's been removed from the website. Ddd44 04:00, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
  • Edit: Actually, looking over the past discussion someone anonymous posted a link to the Nick site and said it was confirmed as Energybending, but Omnibender said the link wouldn't lead to the page so Omnibender gave some specific instructions to get there. So I assume Omnibender looked it up and also confirmed it was called Energybending. Ddd44 04:08, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
  • I think spiritbending would have been an infinitly better name but meh. 98.240.210.20 09:22, July 21, 2010 (UTC)



New Air Nomads

Should that section about the Air Nomads reading:

"Because the Lion Turtle used Energybending to transfer the knowledge of Energybending to Aang, and that Energybending can be used to take away a person's bending, it is possible that Aang used Energybending to transfer the knowledge of Airbending to a group of non-benders, thus creating a new generation of Air Nomads."

be put in the article? --I'm The Bos - Talk - Guardian 19:03, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Support

Oppose

Oppose OpposeVulmen (talkcontribs) 19:13, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose OpposePakkuSig copy 19:27, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral

Comments

I would like to say something about the lion turtle teaching aang:

Some people hink he only showed him how to do it, that is what teaching is. Alright, so everyone can throw a basketball, right? But they still need to.be shown how, by a teacher. It's the same with energy bending, aang could always do it, but he needed to be taught how, the lion turtle energybended the knowledge into him. Now, this doesn't mean it can be used to bring the air nomads back, just that someone can be taught how to do the moves, but nothing w old happen since they don't have the ability.--Wit beyond measure is man's greatest treasure. (talk) 19:06, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


The reason I oppose this is - sure, it uses energybending to show Aang how to energy bend, but we have no solid proof it "Energy bent" the ability into him. After all, the Lion Turtle does say Everyone used to energy bend, in the time before the Avatar, so everyone was capable of the art - even non-avatar individuals.

And to add; I don't see any reasoning to believe it can teach how to use firebending/etc other art, especially considering that can seriously deteriorate the Avatar world. This would mean every individual could be capable of bending, Sokka could be taught how to Firebend, Katara could Earthbend, Suki could Waterbend...etc. This would nullify the Avatar being the only one capable of bending all the elements.

And besides the above; we only ever see the capability to remove an element. And doing so comes at great risk! The bender could lose all of their own bending properties if it should backfire. There's no fear in that backfire, if all one needs to do is re-teach the lost arts to said person. Vulmen (talkcontribs) 19:13, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Nick's site said that only the Avatar can Energybend. He's the only one who can now. And there's nothing that says it can't bring back the Air Nomads. --I'm The Bos - Talk - Guardian 19:15, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

I said something similar, Vulmen, it can give the knowledge, but not the ability, so Sokka could do the moves, but it would basically just be him flailing his arms around.--Wit beyond measure is man's greatest treasure. (talk) 19:17, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

I generally agree. It can work with what's already there-- it can't just bring something that didn't exist. Aang had the potential to Energybend all along. All the Lion Turtle had todo was show Aang that he could. He didn't give Aang the ability. And theoretically, it would be quite ludicrous if the Avatar could just freely give bending abilities. For one, where would that energy be coming from? Two, what stops him from creating a dual-element bender? If it wasn't confirmed or stated, then it should be left as speculation and out of the factual article.

PakkuSig copy 19:27, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Well, then bring up Firebending. Ozai had Firebending. Aang Energybent Ozai, then Ozai isn't a Firebender anymore. If Aang can take away something that was already there, what's to stop him from giving something to someone? And @Water Spout, he may be able to create dual benders, but this is Aang we're talking about. Why would he create someone who could bend Earth and Water? Fire and Air? He prefers using bending as little as possible, but he would also want to retain balance. So, he could easily use Energybending (if the creators say that he could) to re-create Air Nomads. If Aang used Energybending to permanently block Ozai's bending abilities, then he could give out bending too. I see it like chakras. He blocked Ozai's permanently, so he can't bend. He could open up those of others, enabling them to bend. --I'm The Bos - Talk - Guardian 20:32, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Taking and giving are two different things, there are many possible explanations, like he can only give what he takes form someone else so he cant give any air bending, he could have just blocked something in ozai, etc.--Courage 20:35, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Exactly. This is speculative. Why not? It's possible and logical, so why not? --I'm The Bos - Talk - Guardian 20:40, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Exactly, you all once told me speculating wasn't allowed on the canon part of the wiki--Courage

Well the way I see it, it's a balance issue. He uses Energybending to remove energy, the result is that energy is removed. Theoretically, if he uses Energybending to give energy, then there must be a source where that energy came from. Therefore, if he were to give Airbending abilities, then his Airbending should be drained. I just don't find it possible for him to freely give energy. It's really hard to think up of an analogy, but here's my best try. Ozai had a debit card. Aang removed the money from his debit card. He now has no money. Now, if a non-bender attempted to get money from their debit card, they must already have existing money to being with. That was what Aang had. He had money in his card, and all the Lion Turtle did was take it out and turn it into money. Now theoretically, the only other way for a non-bender to get money is if Aang gave them some. But in order for him to do so, he must take away some of his own money. Again. Sorry for the horrible analogy lol.

PakkuSig copy 20:45, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Logical speculation. Maiko: Mai was never seen becoming Fire Lady, but it's implied that she would be the next one, since she remained in a relationship with Zuko. So, logic would tell you that it should be possible to give Energy. And WS, the analogy kind of lost me. Bending isn't genetic. The creators have confirmed that bending is a talent that everyone has, but some are just better than others. Non-benders, therefore, are just incredibly weak benders. After a certain period of time, they loose the ability to tap into that power. So, Aang could easily (for anyone) awaken that ability. --I'm The Bos - Talk - Guardian 20:49, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
I don't see the point in why being a bender in some instances was made such a big deal then. Katara was supposedly the last Waterbender of the Southern Water Tribe, but with that statement, it would mean that she's just normal. I don't believe that everyone is a bender, and I guess I must've missed that interview because this is the first time I've heard of that statement. And genetics has got to be part of the equation. There's just no way it isn't. Regardless, I think if its speculaiton, then it should stay off the canon article. That's my two cents.
PakkuSig copy 20:54, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


Energybending symbol

In the old Nickelodeon site of Avatar, in the section of Message boards, there is a series of symbols including the first A of the Avatar logo, the symbols of Airbending, Waterbending, Earthbending and Firbending and there's also this symbol representing the fan fiction messages:

thumb|162px|Possible symbol of Energybending This could be the possible symbol of Energybending:

1. It is an official picture

2. The symbol's structure can represent the energy (the spiral thing) inside the body (the circle).

3. Like ALL the other symbols of the bending arts it has that spiral thing.


What do you think?

SakasFixe (talkcontribs) 18:10, July 12, 2011 (UTC)SakasFixe

Its certainly possible, try suggesting using it on the article in the Forums.--  Sokka-spriteOlorin The White  Talk  Contribs  Friends 19:57, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
If this is what it "is" - we will need confirmation. We are not about to host this image as if it were Energybending based off of pure speculation. Vulmen (talkcontribs) 02:23, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
I know, but how can we get the confirmation? SakasFixe (talkcontribs) 11:06, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps in Legend of Korra, or a comic. But if neither; we won't be getting confirmation and the symbol will not be used. We can't just assume that's what it is. For all we know; it was just fancy calligraphy/something to depict 'fans' / forums or just not be a blank link. Vulmen (talkcontribs) 02:00, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
I am not assuming anything. I'm just saying this could be the Energybending symbol. I don't know if that is possible but, can we ask that in San Diego Comic-Con? SakasFixe (talkcontribs)
That's the problem. We can't assume. We need confirmation. And I doubt Bryke will waste time saying what the Energybending symbol is. --I'm The Bos - Talk - Guardian 11:29, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
At least we could try... SakasFixe (talkcontribs)
Well; if we got them to 'say' it was the Energybending symbol; or just someone asked and they 'said' to them, and said person reported this back to the wiki - we have no way of verifying this unless that event is actually transcribed or put in a written provable form rather than someone saying Bryke said that. Comic-Con also may not be the place to ask them to do something like that; since it will be more dedicated toward the coming information. And...sadly, tickets are sold out - very few of us are going that I'm aware of. :( Or I would.
Also, sadly, the image is being deleted since it is only hosted here. I let it remain long enough for this discussion to carry out. Vulmen (talkcontribs) 21:23, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry! So, what do you think is the best place to ask them that? I think Energybendig "needs" a symbol... to be completed... SakasFixe (talkcontribs)
I don't think Energybending needs a symbol. We don't have a good way of getting confirmation. I don't think the Comic Con can get us a confirmation. – Natsu11 · (wallNanatsu no Taizai) 11:08, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
You're mean! SakasFixe (talkcontribs)

Energybending in Legend of Korra

In the latest episode it seems that the revolutions leader (forget the name) may have the ability to Energybend. As he is seen taking away peoples ability to bend. Chasesan (wallcontribs) 20:35, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Note the words 'may have.' As such we shouldn't host the information here as if it is true. :) Vulmen (talkEoK) 03:40, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
I just watched the two side by side and the way they are done seems nearly identical. Thought the one from Korra lacks the special effects. Chasesan (wallcontribs) 04:35, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Should this page be revisited after the two-parter Beginnings, about the legend of Avatar Stinky?Steamboat28 (wallcontribs) 22:19, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Raava & Vaatu: Energybenders?

I think there's a good case that these 2 are capable of Energybending. Raava says that she has to synchronize her energy with Wan's in order to give him the element. This involves manipulation of their energies. It also involves transferring Bending to & away from him. Meanwhile, Vaatu can fire energy beams which are almost certainly made from his chi. Since they're virtually identical, we can assume that they share these abilities. Thoughts?Neo Bahamut (wallcontribs) 06:30, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Even if the case has its merits from a debating standpoint, for our encyclopedic articles we cannot assume unless substantial proof to a point is given. The fact is, we don't have a lot of knowledge about where Vaatu's energy beams came from, and we don't know the nature of how Raava "held and passed on" the bending for Wan and how similar it was to how the Lion Turtle gave out bending initially. In short, even if it's a "good case" based on speculation, its still speculation. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 07:39, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
The way I see it, it's proven by definition. Energybending is the ability to manipulate the chi of yourself &/or another person. Sort of like how any type of creature that originates from the Spirit World is automatically deemed a spirit.Neo Bahamut (wallcontribs) 07:43, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
Don't forget that not a whole lot has been said about energybending as a whole, and Raava as a spirit holding the element for Wan which she later passed power through him spiritually that resulted in him bending the element with his chi, which is kind of like energy - is a pretty loose link, and unless it's stated more concretely that it's the same form of bending energy, the same ability, that the lion turtle uses called energybending, it's still speculation. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 07:50, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

The Last Stand

I'm a bit confused. When Korra blocked the spirit weapon blast, was the power of the blast itself or was it Korra energybending the blast that created the new spirit portal? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:45, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that they confirmed it was the weapon: when Korra and Kuvira were in the Spirit World, I think she said something along the lines of "your weapon opened a new spirit portal."

Goldendragon611 (wallcontribs) 22:59, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

That wording could reasonably be valid in both situations Omni suggested. I don't think it was clear enough either way to be able to say exactly what occurred. HAMMEROFTHOR 23:04, December 19, 2014 (UTC)
I asked because she went into the Avatar State, and did something that looks nothing like the other four bending arts. Could that mean that energybending is also how she opened the spirit portals in the poles? She kinda did something similar in the spirit world when the vines kidnapped people. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:50, December 20, 2014 (UTC)
It did seem like she used energybending or some Avatar spirity powers to block the blast, but I don't think it was clear whether it was the reflected spirit blast itself that created the portal or Korra's use of energybending/spirit powers upon it. HAMMEROFTHOR 12:17, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

From the screenshots, you can see that she formed a bubble around her and Kuvira. So what we know is that she stepped forward, put out her hands, entered the Avatar State, and formed a bubble around her and Kuvira that deflected the beam. Evidently, that doesn't tell us what she was doing, so I guess we just leave it in limbo and only report about it on the episode page and Korra's page. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:25, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

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