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Korra and Asami?
Did Korra and Asami ended up as a couple at the end of last episode The Last Stand when they held hands when they entered the Spirit World?--Colonelsam (wall • contribs) 19:41, December 19, 2014 (UTC)
- I think it was too vague to make any conclusive statements. Holding hands and looking at one another =/= a couple. HAMMEROFTHOR 20:48, December 19, 2014 (UTC)
Citation #7 cites episode 26 when it should cite 52. Hold your mouse over it & you'll see the number is wrong.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fomxcloud (wall • contribs) 00:25, December 30, 2014 (UTC)
- The reason for that is because it is the 26th episode of the second season (which was the 26 episodes comprising Books 3 and 4). We have the numbering done by the two seasons instead of the total series; same thing applies for the ATLA episodes. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 00:28, December 30, 2014 (UTC)
- They're not stated to be outright bi, but rather part of the LGBT-etc. community and is confirmed fact from the creators. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 05:28, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
- Confirmed by a user asking DiMartino and Konietzko himself after a Q/A and having a picture to confirm his presence. It was then discussed by the community how to take it and it was decided to keep it on the pages. Lady Lostris vstf (talk • HotN) 07:33, May 7, 2015 (UTC)
Reducing Zuko/Asami similarities?
I know it's been here for a while, but I'm going to argue in favor of reducing the paragraph comparing Asami to Zuko. I feel like too much of it is either inaccurate or including "similarities" that aren't really unique to Asami and Zuko at all.
"To begin with, they both had to live in the absence of a caring mother."
True, but it's also accurate for six other characters in the series: Aang, Katara, Sokka, Azula, Bolin, and Mako. And then there are more characters besides that who live with the absence of a caring father. Unless we are going to draw parallels between every one of these characters too, I think this line should be removed.
"Once Asami, like Zuko, realizes the cruelty of which her father is a part of, she had to choose between helping her father or joining the Avatar; Asami chooses to join the Avatar in ending that cruelty."
These lines show differences, not similarities. Zuko was well aware of the atrocities his nation was committing for a long time; he spent most of his life mentally justifying them as being the Fire Nation's way of sharing their greatness with the world. In addition, the final sentence is something that only applies to Asami, not Zuko. (The latter chooses to help his father many times before finally turning on him.)
"Both of their fathers wanted to kill their own children for refusing to help their respective causes: Ozai was willing to kill Zuko after the latter makes the Fire Nation's cruelty known, while Hiroshi wanted to kill his daughter for refusing to take part in his revenge."
Zuko never "makes the Fire Nation's cruelty known." It's a well-established fact and the reason why the other countries hate the Fire Nation at that point. Also, Ozai attempted to kill his son long before Zuko turned against him. Ozai never attempted to make peace with Zuko, as Hiroshi did with Asami.
"A key difference, however, is that Asami almost immediately rejected her father, while Zuko strove for a long time to regain his father's love, impossible as it was."
If this is a key difference, why is it included in a paragraph that's dedicated to the characters' similarities? I'm also not seeing a lot of evidence that Asami tried to earn her father's love or even lost it to begin with. In fact, when Hiroshi is fighting, he says he is doing it for Asami.
If there are no objections, I would like to edit the paragraph down to following:
"Asami's relationship with her father and history parallels Zuko's such that both their fathers were a part of the series' antagonist. The actions of their respective fathers then lead to a loss of their high social status for a period of time. Both Asami and Zuko become sickened by their respective fathers' goals and both view their fathers as the worst fathers. Both children engage in a duel when their fathers prepare to kill them for acts of defiance. Also, like Zuko, Asami assumes her father's mantle after his defeat and during his imprisonment. Moreover, Asami tries to restore the honor of Future Industries similar to how Zuko tried to restore the honor of his country."
I think this shows how they do have similarities but limits it to ones that are unique to these two characters.
- With slightly different wording, I'm all for trimming it down.
- "Asami's relationship with her father and history somewhat parallels Zuko's: Both their fathers were antagonists to the Avatar and their actions led to a loss of their high social status for a period of time. Asami and Zuko both opposed their respective fathers' goals and labeled them to be "the worst father", eventually engaging in a duel when their fathers, who tried to kill them for their defiance. They also both assumes their father's mantle after his defeat and subsequent imprisonment and try to restore the damage their fathers inflicted; Asami worked to renew Future Industries, similar to how Zuko tried to restore the honor of his country."
- Lady Lostris vstf (talk • HotN) 13:41, March 13, 2016 (UTC)