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Speculations[]

My speculation for Amon that he might be Azula's Grandchild, since there is a rumor that Azula's grandchildren will be the antagonist in the Legend of Korra, his name is sound alot fimilar to Azula and Ozai, and he might be a secret antagonist similar to one of the other villains who tricked the protagonist with hiding his identity, like: the Black Knight from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, N from Pokemon Black & White, and Dain from Detora's Quest.-- King Marth 64 (talkother wikisblogs) http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k576/DigiPen92/th_20px-Marthsprite.gif Peace_Ness.png 17:21, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Time to move[]

So now that we know he's "Noatak", maybe it's time to move the article to the page "Noatak" as that's his real name.

Like on the Star Wars Wiki, the info of Darth Vader is all on "Anakin Skywalker" and the Harry Potter Wiki has Voldemort on "Tom Riddle". Even the Marvel Movie Wiki, everyone is on their real name. So I guess maybe the same should be done with Amon.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.107.151.144 (wallcontribs) This note was added on 22:36, June 26, 2012 (UTC).

Being discussed in the War Room here. GhostUser (wallcontribs) 04:44, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Noatak's Tear[]

I disagree with the logic in the paragraph saying that "Just before that, Amon shed a single tear, leading viewers to believe that he knew of Tarrlok's intentions all along."

There's about 5 different ways to interpret it. I took it to be a tear of joy about how he recalled the old days when he and his brother were friends.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.80.48 (wallcontribs) This note was added on 22:36, June 26, 2012 (UTC).

Pic[]

We need to change Amon's profile pic to Noatak when he is unmasked. His pic should not be him with his mask on it should show his true identity. Wikian13000 (wallcontribs) 23:56, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

This should be proposed here: Project:Profile image change. However it may be disagreed to, as 'Amon/Noatak' is most notably known by his appearance as, well, Amon. Other pictures of him on his article can suffice to cover this. Vulmen (talkEoK) 00:01, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

The Scar[]

It's my opinion we show his scarred face as well as his true face. I just think it's something worth being shown, along with the mask and his true face. --♪Avatar♪ ♪Korra♪ 09:56, June 27, 2012 (UTC)AvatarKorra

Need to add Sokka's words (about Amon) "He is bender with unique ability just like Combustion Man"

85.174.22.142 17:00, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Weapon of Choice[]

For weapon of choice, wouldn't it make more sense if it was blood, or something related to the fact that he's almost soley bloodbending rather than just water bending. I mean I know they're the same in one aspect... but I think it would make sense if we said blood.

Evrytime I Dive in My Pool... I Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle! 00:40, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

There's a Weapon of Choice section? Well, whatever, then. I would say Bloodbending. An analogy would be the difference between "swords" and a gladius.Neo Bahamut (wallcontribs) 01:40, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Amon's mask[]

Can Amon's mask be a reference for Anonymous group, a group of anarchic hackers, who claim to hack sites as protesting. The name "Amon" also quite reminding "Anonymous". Of course it's not sourced or proven by anyone of the creators of Avatar. Galzigler (wallcontribs) 20:12, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

On Amon the Trivia paragraph includes this section:
Amon sounds very similar to Anon - short for Anonymous, an internet movement or concept of anonymous activists who protest political injustice. They often use a Guy Fawkes mask as a symbol for the movement and as a disguise, which is similar to the mask Amon uses.
So I think it can be added here, too.
Galzigler (wallcontribs) 20:19, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
Saying it is a reference is a specific claim easily falsified by the fact that they haven't said anything, it's better to say something like, "Amon using his mask as a symbol for the revolution is similar to Anonymous using the Guy Fawkes mask as their symbol."Neo Bahamut (wallcontribs) 22:01, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
It can mean that, but since there is no real evidence it is just speculation. User Page . ƒelinoel_ Contributions 14:52, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
There's evidence, it's just circumstancial.[/pedantry].Neo Bahamut (wallcontribs) 16:54, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

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Which makes it not evidence, but speculation. User Page . ƒelinoel_ Contributions 16:58, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
No, that makes it circumstantial evidence. I don't know why you're trying to do this. We actually have a lot of points on this Wiki based on circumstantial evidence. No one ever said that Amon was based on Communism, but there are enough similarities that it was significant to note.Neo Bahamut (wallcontribs) 17:03, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
Circumstantial evidence is not evidence and this is all speculation. I haven't admin'd this wiki in years so I won't stop you from putting speculation on the article but someone else might. User Page . ƒelinoel_ Contributions 18:23, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
Evidence is IN THE TERM. You might as well be trying to argue that diet soda isn't soda. But this is horribly off-topic. I've already shown, with examples, that this material is fair game, provided we only explain how it's similar, and don't make claims about the writers' intentions. So you can keep firing back with "No you're wrong" if you want, just know that if I don't respond, it's not a concession. You are obviously not correct here.Neo Bahamut (wallcontribs) 22:14, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
Or how about how Pluto is explicatively not a planet now and yet it is a dwarf planet. User Page . ƒelinoel_ Contributions 16:20, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
How about how "explicatively" isn't a word? The difference is that "dwarf planet" is defined as a body separate from a planet, while "circumstantial evidence" is defined as a form of evidence separate from direct evidence. While you conclusively prove a fact with direct evidence, you gather large amounts of circumstantial evidence to support it. Kindly stop spewing ignorance now.Neo Bahamut (wallcontribs) 16:31, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
Not sure why you think that, open up a dictionary and find it there..?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/explicatively
Gotcha, so one is defined as not being an actual planet, and the other is defined as not being actual direct evidence, I see the difference now. User Page . ƒelinoel_ Contributions 13:57, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

I believe ambiguity in regards to his ability to remove people's bending. It has yet to be revealed if it is actual energy bending, or a form of blood bending possibly combined with chi-blocking.

While there are valid arguments to be made on both sides, this wiki page shouldn't be the place post presumed answers.

It was revealed in the last 2 episodes, & then again by Mike at comic con. There really is no other side anymore.Neo Bahamut (wallcontribs) 03:01, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Chi blocker[]

While Amon certainly was knowledgeable about people's chi, is there an official source somewhere that actually confirms that he's a chi blocker? He's a bloodbender masquerading as a chi blocker, and I can't recall an instance where he actually just chi blocked people. Lady Lostris / 9?cb=20210808202057 SOAP 05:46, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

Only instance I can recall from the top of my head is when he knocks out Korra in The Voice in the Night, near the end. She was already chi-blocked by other Equalists, but the attack that fully knocked her out was his, and was delivered like an actual chi-blocking attack. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 05:53, August 2, 2017 (UTC)
Ah yes. Hmm ... I guess it will always be debatable whether that was true chi blocking or bloodbending. Can someone verify whether the artbook says something about this? Lady Lostris / 9?cb=20210808202057 SOAP 06:01, August 2, 2017 (UTC)
No mention of this particular sequence in the portion dedicated to this episode. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 06:09, August 2, 2017 (UTC)
And to him in general? Does it somewhere say that he's actually a chi blocker? Lady Lostris / 9?cb=20210808202057 SOAP 06:22, August 2, 2017 (UTC)
Nope. I believe the only reason Amon is listed as a chi-blocker is due to that interaction with Korra. It all comes down to whether to consider that chi-blocking or bloodbending, which can inevitably be speculation either way. I believe it was true chi-blocking, as there was no threat to Amon in that instance, meaning no covert bloodbending would be necessary. I think they refrained from having Amon use chi-blocking liberally so they could always show him removing bending, and that would not look the same if a target had their bending already blocked. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:19, August 2, 2017 (UTC)
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