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"Fully Realised" Avatar?
In the Infobox, under "Position", Aang is stated as a fully realised Avatar. But Aang's not exactly fully realised, is he? It was never stated in the series and he's just much too young, even with his talents. He's more of an Avatar-in-training. Even in book 3 he was still receiving lessons from Toph and Katara, and he's had less than three months of training with Zuko. (Less than three months because one season = three months and book 3 was within one season.) Roku took 12 years before he was deemed a fully realised Avatar. (12 years was mentioned in book three episode The Avatar and The Firelord.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 06:25, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
- The reasons can be argued, but being able to bend all four elements was what Roku saw as being a fully-realized Avatar. Aang can do this, as well as Energybending. --Energybender 19:30, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
- Well, that makes sense. I've added a line about this to the trivia.--Secretss 20:17, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
Avatar state unlocking
This section near the end of the article about why the avatar state was unlocked when he struck the rock is long winded, badly structured and frankly sounds like an argument for the discussion section. I think it should be removed.
- In my opinion its also completly flawed. He unlocked his 7th chakra at the end of the Crossroads of Destiny when he remembered Pathik saying "The only way is to let her go." responding with "I am sorry Katara." as he also entered the Avatar State thereafter. Getting shot by Azula, blocking it again, was no mental thing so he had no problems entering the Avatar State again after the block was released by hitting the rock.
I'm not sure what it would look like, but I think there should be one. I know we could only put it on Aang and the Lion Turtle, but still, since there's one for each other bending art. Dudewaldo yada yada yada... • My story 17:46, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, it does. Do you think that it might be his child with Katara, assuming that he might die before the child is born? (that would be a pretty heavy thing to do for this series, but then again so was the Air Nomad Genocide).Hiroakira Fengxian (talk • contribs) 23:35, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
The new series is suppose to be 70 years later, so its not his and Katara's kid. However it is likely Korra will have to learn air bending form one of Aangs desendants. 22.214.171.124 06:54, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
Trying to push Sokka to be a vegetarian.
Aang seems to make some subtle efforts to prevent Sokka from eating meat. He doesn't ever say, "Sokka, become a vegetarian," but he does use his seal blubber jerky to start a fire, while playing it off as an accident. Similarly, he also uses Sokka's fishing line to make a bracelet for Katara, which prevents him from catching, killing, eating or otherwise harming the fish. Aang also rescues Momo from Sokka's designs to turn him into a meal.
Seems like this could be part of his "personality" entry. It's consistent with his aversion to taking Ozai's life and might even be a slight foreshadowing of Aang's decision to spare the fire lord. Fakerton (talk • contribs) 14:15, July 19, 2010 (UTC)Fakerton
I'm sorry, but you're mistaken. 1st example: Aang uses Sokka's seal blubber jerky to start a fire, while playing it off as an accident. 2nd example: Aang uses Sokka's fishing line to make a bracelet for Katara, which prevents him from catching, killing, eating or otherwise harming the fish. 3rd example: Aang also rescues Momo from Sokka's designs to turn him into a meal.
So, unless the definition of 1 changed to 3 recently, you're just plain lying.
You didn't even support your agument. All you say is, "It isn't foreshadowing," which you expect me to take at face value. And, if your reasoning skills are as shoddy as your counting skills, you'll have to come up with more than "it isn't foreshadowing."
Here's why it is foreshadowing: Aang's respect for life is exactly why he would try to prevent Sokka from harming/eating animals and exactly why he has moral qualms with killing Fire Lord Ozai.
Sorry I was hgalf asleep when i made that.
Yes he does respect life, but as for your examples aren't showing much.
- 1:It probably was an accident
- 2:He really just wanted to make a necklace for Katara who had just lost her mother's necklace.
- 3:He was the only thing other than Appa who was close to the Air Nation, would you let him be killed?
I'm not sure what you mean about "original research," but again, you don't really support any of your arguments. 1) Why is it more probable that Aang accidentally used the jerky to start a fire? I don't think it is. Jerky doesn't look like twigs. It's unprobable that he saw meat and thought "kindling." He's playful and goofy, but he isn't retarded or blind. 2) He did want to make a necklace for her, but your opinion offers no explanation as to why he would specifically use Sokka's fishing lure. He could have easily used any number of things that did not specifically prevent Sokka from harming other living things. 3) The point isn't that Aang should have let Sokka kill Momo. The point is that he prevented Sokka from killing Momo to make a meal of him. Something his vegetarian values would oppose. I'm not arguing that Momo isn't significant beyond that, he is. However, is attempts to save Momo are part of a larger behavioral pattern (as explained above) to keep Sokka from eating meat. Fakerton (talk • contribs) 18:21, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
2)Katra had just lost her beloved necklace, what else could he have used? a piece of wood?
Apperently, Aang died because of spending a lot of time in the ice berg, possibly meaning there is a time limit that the avatar spirit can be in a body.Courage the Cowardly User (talk • contribs) 03:54, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
- The implication is Aang died earlier than he otherwise would have because he was in the state the whole time he was in the iceberg. That's not an issue of a time limit on how long the spirit inhabits the body, the spirit bonds with the body of the Avatar - and let's not forget Kyoshi lived for 320 years, it's an issue of the stress he placed on his own body by using the state that way.Daniel Dusk - Talk - Contributions 14:49, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
Verb Tense and Such
This article should be written with Avatar: Legend of Korra as the present and current story. Also every vague reference to Avatar: The Last Airbender (ie. "The series") should be made more specific because technically there is two "series" now. Brightgalrs (talk • contribs) 19:53, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
I don't think we should change this status to Deceased and his age to 60 until the actual miniseries commences. Plus, if we are going to list his LoK age at this early stage, we should list his age in both series, not just Legend of Korra. Vaznock - Talk 18:00, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
- Very well then. Until LoK starts, we list his age in both series, after it starts, we discuss whether we keep both age listing, or only the one in the most recent series. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:25, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
- The only problem with listing his age for the next series is that we don't know when he died. We do know Korra's series is set 75 years after his death, but we don't know how old Korra is. Should we just leave his age blank for the new series or list our best guesses? Daniel Dusk - Talk - Contributions 14:05, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
Something I came across today: Aang has one more scar that I noticed: On the sole of his left foot. You can blatantly see it when Azula struck him down in"The Crossroads of Destiny." I never really thought much of it because I thought it was just drawn in to show the struggle of the battle. However, I was watching "The Runaway" and the scar is still there! [ digavatar.com / "the runaway" / 2nd frame from top / 2:02-2:04 ] Is there something prior that happened to him to give him it? If not, I am going to assume that it is from when Azula struck him down. Maybe this tidbit should be including to indicate the suffering Aang went through to protect the people of the world. In description, Azula guided lightning, impaling him in the back but streamed down out through his left foot ( Remember, when lightning strikes the object being struck generates a spark, thus causing the explosion and the path includes his aorta, spleen, stomach, pancreas, large intestine and small intestine -- ouch! ), which is severe internal damage. For sake of not being gory, evidence of this connects the image of Aang falling from the cosmic path ( if he died in the Avatar state, the Avatar will die too ) and the expression of disappointment given by the spirit proves that Azula did indeed fatally wound him -- This further explains why his chi paths glowed once the remedy, the Spirit Oasis water, was put on the path of damage to restore the Avatar spirit's life, while Aang's as well, and also adds to how powerful the Spirit Oasis water properties contains. I will not add this until it is properly discussed, but would like feedback.
Prince Azula http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab307/yeahthatboy/azula-dobs-c1.gif 12:10, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
lightning went in thru his back and out thru his left foot
- I agree. I say that they are brown. His current pic makes them look brown, but I think it's the lighting that changes them. --I'm The Bos - Talk - Guardian 21:06, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
- They're brown, I think.
- рrofile · tаlk 21:12, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
If you pay attention his eye color is actually different in several different episodes, it's very bizarre and annoying. I say they're gray. The profile pic on Nick's site certainly doesn't even come close to appearing brown. Also the pic you shown of him smiling --- he's staring into a sunset nearly, so it can affect his eye color.
http://nicktoons.nick.com/shows/avatar/characters/aang.html Vulmen (talk • contribs) 21:14, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, it varies. On the Nick site, it clearly is grey. In the iroh.org screencap I think it was probably an animation error of some kind. --I'm The Bos - Talk - Guardian 21:22, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
Check it out: Winter Solstice part 2:
Winter Solstice part 2 - gray
The Drill - brown
Last episode - both o.O Renatabls 19:17, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
- And The Beach Renatabls http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd470/Renatabls/Zuko_Sprite.gif 19:32, January 30, 2011 (UTC)
- Check out the lighting and how it affects his eye color. Sunset = darkens his gray eyes to appear more brown-ish. Same happens around fire, etc... I do admire that they let the ambiance of his surroundings actually have an effect on his character. This is even the case when in green-tinted locations. But yeah, he has gray eyes. Vulmen (talk • contribs) 19:35, January 30, 2011 (UTC)
New Profile Image
I agree. Aang need's a new infobox image. 888 quotes that "it should get the entire head and shoulders". Well, Aang's shoulders arn't showing completely. VJavatar said we should change it to this:
I know it gets pretty much his entire body, but I think it looks good since he is the Avatar and it shows his sort of royal clothes.
Oppose — Too far out, too much of a profile and the background is relatively detracting from the subject. I'd be open to other suggestions, considering Aang's photo at the moment is not perfect. Water Spout tаlk • blog 07:10, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
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History Sections Deletion
I propose that the text in Aang's history sections be removed and possibly have the content merged with the main articles. As we see with Katara, Sokka, Toph and Zuko, their history section on their main page merely provides a link to the main article. In the interest of saving space and maintaining consistency I believe we should do the same for Aang. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 01:47, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
Lots 'o Trivia
Yes, I am new to the page, but I was wondering if we(I) could organize the trivia on this page. There is just so much of and in such a long list. I'm not saying move it, I'm saying that all of the trivia be organized in smaller sections in a main trivia section. That way, people can just go to the section that they want or not have to worry about trying to find some particular trivia bit to impress their friends. It is the fate of a Nobody (talk • contribs) 07:56, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
- While there is a bit of trivia present, it's a consistent layout when given the rest of the canon site as a whole. Having a main trivia section that then has "sub-sections" ... just isn't a strategy to use for good layout purposes here. Thanks for the consideration, however. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 08:00, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
The paragraph "Trivia" has those two sections:
Considering that Aang did not officially begin his Avatar training until he was released from the iceberg, he became a Fully Realized Avatar more quickly than any other known Avatar, doing so in only twelve months.
Aang was considered to be a Fully Realized Avatar, but he was biologically twelve years of age, which made him perhaps the youngest known Fully Realized Avatar in history, as he was not supposed to be told of his identity as the Avatar for another four years. On the contrary, being chronologically one hundred-twelve years old may have made him the latest (age wise) to become a Fully Realized Avatar.
I don't understand why was a section I added removed - the section I added dealing with the fact that it's unclear what's Aang's age because it's unknown how much time before the beginning of the war he runned away. The age 112 was determined by Katara, and the fact that the Air Temple's nomads knew a war will begin soon (at 0 ASC) was a prediction, done using the clouds (simillary to Aunt Wu's cloud predicting method).
This is a quote of the deleted section:
The chronological age of Aang was determined by Katara, according to the fact he wasn't aware to the war that took place for a hundred years. It's unknown how much time was passed between's Aang runaway to the beginning of the war, although Aang was alerted that a war will begin soon before he runned away, by the monks in charge of the Southern Air Temple, therefore Aang's chronological age can be higher than the age determined by Katara.
See the entire revision here.
The possibilities for why it was deleted are quite a few; I believe one may be the fact you used "runned" instead of "ran" and two, Aang was 12 years old when he ran away, and woke 100 years later, putting his age at 112. Yes, we don't know what month, but that isn't the point as it's a rough estimate. AvatarAang2000 • Talk03:41, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
Remove the picture of Aang in the movie?
I understand the reason its there, but honestly it's ugly and I feel we are talking about the cartoon Aang, not the adapted movie Aang. Permission to remove? AvatarAang2000 • Talk03:45, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
New Aang Profile Pic
Support — Kevin
- If you wish to propose a new image, you need to do so at Avatar Wiki:Profile image change. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 02:51, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
Born in 0 BSC or 12 BSC?
Wasn't he born in 0 BSC, but was frozen in 12 BSC? Because in the article it says he was born in 12 BSC, but that doesn't seem right, because the comet came soon after he left, when the air temples were destroyed?
- The article is correct, he was born in 12 BSC. The dating system we use takes the 0-year (0 ASC) as the year of Sozin's Comet, and since this occured when Aang was 12, working backwards, he must have been born in 12 BSC. HAMMEROFTHOR 07:05, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if it's interesting to mention in the trivia section. I can't word it better, but Aang's waterbending, earthbending and firebending teacher (all teachers except airbending, of course, Aang was the last airbender) survived him. -Darjeeling- (wall • contribs) 19:52, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
Edit on trivia
My edit on one of the trivia notes was undone/deleated, and that's fine but the origional note should still be fixed.
This is the trivia piece: When the creators first pitched the series, Aang was a ten-year-old boy, though after a suggestion from Eric Coleman, they "aged him up" the comma after "Aang was a ten-year-old boy" should be a period and the "though" should be deleted. If my old english professor saw that sentance she would scream and (I say this in fond memory of her <3) curse.-Winterwonder*