By previous edit, I'm taking the revision before my edit. Pretty much yeah. Not only was the entire section poorly written, but it implied that Zuko was jealous of Azula being in Azulon's good graces. Azulon didn't care at all about Zuko during that one scene they shared.
I basically left the wiki after some things others chose to keep two things I feel have no place being in the wiki, those being article comments and badges. I only came back around the time Korra info started being released, as well as during the airing of the episodes. Recent technical upgrades on Wikia's side have also contributed for the deterioration of my user experience, so that also makes me show up less often and do less each time I come around.
I see. Its unfortunate to no longer see one such as yourself no longer on the RC feed. I hate to say it, but this website has become too...ah, how should i say it. Too much talk and not much work being done, so to speak. I understand what you mean, somewhat.
I wanted to message you this, as I was rewriting the trivia point you added to Specialized bending techniques to be clearer, and I wanted to be sure this is what you meant:
In all known specialized bending techniques which require the manipulation of more than one element, the elements involved are never opposites. Of all possible non-opposite combinations, only air/fire lacks a known technique which requires the bending of both elements to be performed.
Pretty much. Maybe my wording wasn't the best, but I was trying to account for the fact other than lavabending, the other two techniques can be performed by the bender of a single element individually. An airbender can manipulate clouds without a waterbender, a waterbender can manipulate clouds without an airbender, same for mudbending and water/earthbenders. I think it's important for that to come across.
I see. I didn't get that when I first read it. The reason I rewrote it the way I did was because an Avatar could use those techniques by themselves, so I wanted to remove the references to benders themselves, and focus more on the elements being bent.
Kinda. I left because of the badges and article comments, which I believe have no place somewhere that is supposed to be a information repository. The recent update of the wiki's software engine from version 1.16 to 1.19 has also impaired by ability to see what happens in the wiki by having Recent Changes request timeout when I set it to a high enough number of edits so I can see at least what has happened in the span of a day, meaning RC doesn't work for me. The biggest culprit of the high number is the pointless jibberjaber in article comments. At first I though that the more granular control over which namespaces show up in RC could take over that function, letting me decrease the number of changes I tell it to show, but selecting any namespace at all makes the request timeout, even with a smaller number of changes selected. More often than not, Wikia updates screw things up for me instead of making the wiki experience better.
I've given up hope. There are other users who share our opinion, but the vast majority either enjoys it, or sees an advantage in having them that they consider that outweighs what we see wrong with them. The thing with that sort of feature is not to allow it to be used in the first page. If it creeps in, it creates roots and gain supporters. If I recall correctly, when those two... "features" were made available, they were sort of activated wiki wide remotely by Wikia, to disable them, you had to send a request to Wikia. It wasn't like today, when anyone with administrator rights can go to Special:WikiFeatures and flip a switch. The reason I don't like badges is because they put quantity over quality. It's all about how many edits you make or how many images you upload, never mind the fact you added an entire paragraph one letter at a time, or added a bunch of images that don't belong in the article and will be removed either way. I also find it criminal to put the senseless content of article comments right in the same page as the fine-quality content of articles. That's like putting Sokka's drawings in the Fire Lord portrait gallery. The main arguments for keeping article comments is that they bring traffic, which is good because we get better in Google's search rank or something along those lines. That argument is only half right. I've seen the numbers somewhere, and while the raw numbers do show traffic increase, that was pointless, because I remember this site appearing in the first page when looking for "Avatar" even before article comments came along. I feel guilty, because I was an administrator when those appeared, and I feel I could have taken a stronger stance against it.
Well, nice meeting you, by the way. ^And if you ever lead a rebellion-protest against the administrators and buearacrats of this Wikia in order to restore balance and destroy the villanous badges and comments whom have defiled our nation.... (long sigh) you can count on me. =)
There has never been a minimum limit agreement on how many techniques are to be listed. And sandbending, while an alternative style, is hardly a special technique, it's just an unconventional technique, which pretty much every earthbender can perform, unlike the techniques marked in the other bending pages. It's something that requires training to be performed well, but it's something every earthbender can perform in some capacity nonetheless, which makes it a poor indicator of proficiency, which is pretty much what those annotations are used for.
Sand is listed. And I agree with what you say about every earthbender being able to bend sand, but it should still be there anyway. It is a special skill. It's a loose form, making it harder to bend. It should stay, so let's just keep it there k. It's part of the page as listed above. Every bending has 3 skills. I see why not and others don't care either. There's nothing to really argue about. So let's just keep it.
I'm quite aware that the technique is listed there, but what makes sandbending a specialized technique is the fact it requires training in order to be proficient in it, unlike the other specialized techniques, which require training to even be performed at all. And the three technique listing I meant is the amount of skills listed as annotations in each bending art page itself. I disagree with listing sandbending based on that difference it presents compared to other specialized skills. There's a reason why so many other specialized skills were also removed from those annotations, particularly in firebending, which now only displays the lightning-related skills, having once also displayed Combustion, use of blue fire, breath of fire, and perhaps even a couple more I don't quite recall. I suggest we make a forum about this topic, to take this discussion to others, a link back to this thread should be provided. I don't know what timezone you're in, but it's almost 1 AM where I am, and I have experiments to run at college tomorrow, so I won't be able to take part it right now, and likely for the next 12 to 16 hours..
Just keep them there, until the fourm you were talking about. That way users can get the chance to see it. So we'll keep it there, then do that fourm thing, then let the users decide. I think that sounds fair and reasonable.
Things were a bit different when you were an administrator. You were responsible and wouldn't have let all of this madness come to life. I also agree, the badges and all of the other stuff should be deleted. I seriously hope you come back and become an administrator once again.
I'm a rollback again, but I have no intentions of becoming an administrator again. It would only frustrate me to have the power to remove the two things I abhor the most in the wiki (comments and badges), but not being able to do it because it become too rooted in the wiki. They shouldn't have been enabled in the first place.
I beg to differ. I do believe the badges are for the most part, unnecessary. They do bring more harm than good. However, I do think comments are okay. We are an Avatar encyclopedia, but sometimes seeing what other people have to say about places, characters, and objects show us that there are different opinions than our own. So I would say that badges are unnecessary, but comments are okay.
First, articles shouldn't have anything regarding discussion in the same page as the actual content, they invite discussion that has no place being there with the article. Second, they're basically a dumbed-down way of expression. Because talk pages and proper discussions required a learning curve, if people had something to actually add to the article, they'd had to learn how to use the talk page. If all they had to add was something pointless and not really important, the learning curve would almost always make sure to set a higher bar for whatever was posted. It made adding pointless stuff boring, so people wouldn't bother the effort. With article comments, the learning curve is gone, all you have to do is type and post. In comes pointless chatter.
I still don't see the relevance. It seems more a statement of fact about how bending is passed on, than Amon himself. If we say he didn't realise, we are speculating, if we say he did know but was merely playing to the crowd etc. we are still speculating.
Hi, I adjusted one of the pictures I recently put up (extras king of omashu) and I wanted to make sure I fixed it, so could you check it? If it is correct I will go around fixing the rest. Again, sorry for the trouble!