Please stop adding that image to the page: the page is rather short, and there is simply no room for an extra image. Your reasoning for why Bujing was smirking/frowing is pure speculation, which is something we don't add, and you edit removed all the interwiki links and categories. For all those reasons, your edit has been rightfully undone each time. The only acceptable change was the "smirking" to "frowing", which I have added back. So with that, I hope that you will stop this edit war.
I do not understand why there is no room for the other picture, since other short pages have had 2 pictures, not including the "character"'s or "place"'s main big picture. Besides that, I would think the page would be better with that picture, since it shows more of Bujing's main point in Zuko's history, rather than the other, when he is looking at another general after Zuko has returned home.
http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Dancing_Dragon This is a quite a short article, and although it has more than 1 "section" other than trivia or references, as usual, the sections are small and it still has more than 1 picture.
Their length and build-up are not comparable at all, the main difference being that the Dancing Dragon article doesn't have an infobox. Bujing's page does and with one image already next to it, another underneath it gives a very cluttered vibe, which is undesirable. So it's really not about the amount of sections, it's about the placement and the spaciness of the images, which is fine on the Dancing Dragon article, but not on Bujing's with the additional image.
I thought their length was quite similar and comparable enough.
Very well, but I still think the picture I tried to add would be a good picture of him, especially when in the History section, since it is more important than just looking at General Shinu when Zuko is in a "better" war meeting. And it took a LONG time to even get the picture on the article for some reason.
I understand that there is no speculation, but I forgot and was merely trying to give a reason of why Bujing would frown instead of smirk, since would he, despite his plan being insulted, now not like Ozai to burn and banish his own son? Could he have been disappointed that he didn't get to duel Zuko? Although we won't know, it is interesting why he was frowning.
Regardless of the reason, do you actually agree that Bujing was frowning, while Zhao and Azula were the people smirking, or are you just writing that for no more edit war?
When the screen zooms in on Iroh looking away in the flashback, and there is a goof of his hair being "invisible" that I added, you can see Bujing's face much better and in the close-up see that he actually has a particular emotion of frowning.
In the future, please try and condense your edits down to one or two, maybe three at most. There's no need to make 11 edits to one article in such a short period of time; it makes it more difficult to follow and could also be seen as badge editing.
Instead of continuing an unproductive edit war which can just result in shutting down the article for a time: That Ty Lee said she looked like her sisters does not confirm that she was a septuplet. It's not uncommon that one looks something like their siblings at all. You say Lo and Li were identical; sure, they were, but that does not mean Ty Lee is a septuplet.
Ty Lee herself said that she had 6 IDENTICAL sisters, not just ones that looked alike, and this fact is on her Trivia section as well. There is a big difference between these two meanings, or "figures of speech". Siblings can "look alike", but this just means only some, not all, of their physical appearances are similar or identical. Identical siblings physically appear completely the same (unless they have injuries or accidents), so being one of 7 identical girls would make Ty Lee a septuplet.
And as LL also pointed out, it could have just as easily been a figure speech said in the heat of the moment. She could have easily looked like her sisters but again that does not mean she is a septuplet.
It doesn't mean she is NOT a septuplet. She has been said to be and stated herself to be identical, and also ran away to a circus in order to not be "part of a matched set". It's hard to not be part of a matched set of siblings if you don't completely match them as identical.
That doesn't answer what LL said about it being a figure of speech. She could have just as easily felt agitated about not being recognized for looking like her sisters - but never has it been confirmed she is a septuplet.
If I could just jump in here; the Kyoshi Warriors are identical, but they are not related. That is the whole point of them.
The Kyoshi Warriors are only identical because of their makeup, outfits, and hairstyles. They are not biologically identical, like Ty Lee and her 6 sisters, and they look very different without their outfits, like when Suki was helping refugees. They aren't related, as you said, but as you also said, "it was never proved", so one or two of the warriors could be related.
It does not say the Kyoshi Warriors are biologically identical. When I say "biologically identical", I mean they are actually related, like sisters, cousins, etc. and look exactly the same, like identical twins. Biology has to do with genetics and organisms.
I was just proving even more about what you said about the phrase "it never being proved". Ty Lee has not yet been proven to be a septuplet, yet it has never been proven that any of the Kyoshi Warriors are not genetically related, whether sisters, cousins, etc., even though you said they aren't. Just like me thinking of Ty Lee as a septuplet without proof, you think of the Kyoshi Warriors as not related without proof. We are not sure yet about both Ty Lee's and the Kyoshi Warriors' certain characteristics.
Fruipit wrote: Exactly. Not proven = speculation, which we don't add to the wiki.
I won't bother anymore, although it really seems like Ty Lee is a septuplet, as long as you agree to not add to wiki that none of the Kyoshi Warriors aren't related. In a way, some could be third-cousins for all we know. But it doesn't really matter--just trying to help with more info about Ty Lee.
I'm not going to add that, because it is also speculation. With a town that small, it's likely that at least one person is related to another. But, we don't know that.
I would think so too, with a really tiny town. But yeah, just a speculation. I would think Ty Lee of a septuplet, since she supposedly has 6 identical, and not just look-alike, sisters, but that is also just a speculation for now. Oh well.
I've noticed you removing several threads and posts unnecessarily, and I just wanted to send you a message to explain in more detail why those deletions were undone. Message wall threads and posts should only be removed in cases such as obvious spam, inappropriate language, irrelevant topics, or privacy concerns (you can find a more indepth list here). Even if the topic of the conversation is over, the thread should still be kept as a record of the discussion. Same things goes for posts; they should be kept as a record of how the conversation proceeded, and only be removed in cases such as those I mentioned above.
Both of those threads/posts were removed due to privacy reasons, since one almost turned into a huge argument, which was also over an irrelevant topic of a non-Avatar real world object, and the other was also a tiny misunderstanding causing unhappiness.
I would like, for privacy reasons again, at least the "DTMWTD" thread/posts to be deleted. Could you do that? Thank you.
Misunderstandings and unhappiness are not viable reasons to delete threads, and they certainly have nothing to do with privacy. I am sorry, but there are no grounds for those threads to be deleted, and as such and per our wiki's practice of keeping things for the archives, they need to stay.
I checked the indepth list, and it says I could delete a thread if it was about an irrelevant topic that is not part of the wiki's page. The "DTMWTD" thread was originally not about an Avatar page topic, so could I please delete that one? Thank you.
As Lostris said, the threads you were removing do not fall under privacy concerns. This refers more to things such as real names or addresses being revealed, than merely not wanting the thread left around.
Don't order me around, I hate that, & it makes me want to reopen the debate just to spite you, & show you that you don't have any authority over me. I already said that I'm closing the argument. Don't backseat mod, especially when you have nothing to contribute to the discussion.
I didn't read all of your last post on the "Extinct 'Important' Creatures" because I saw it had to do with GMOs and skipped it. When I said to stop talking about it, I was just trying to close up the debate myself as GMOs have nothing to do with the Avatar world; I was just trying to ask in a rude sentence way--but I did edit and add "please" to it. So when I received this message, I read your whole post and saw that you said you were going to close it yourself. Thank you.
I understand that no one likes to be ordered, but you telling me "don't order me around" is the same as you ordering me around. But whatever--let's just close this up peacefully by not talking about GMOs in Avatar topics anymore, okay?
Thank you for trying to close up the debate. I was just trying to end the arguments about GMOs myself. This was all a complete misunderstanding. Let's just forget about all this and be friendly again, please.
Me either. Everything's good. Just wondering--how do you compare the Avatar comics and Korra show to the original show?
I thought the first book of Legend of Korra wasn't as exciting as Last Airbender, but the comics seem ok. Others are saying the comics are no good.
What's your opinion?
Korra: I generally like Korra more than the original show. Nothing in the original show was bad, it's pretty much as amazing as everyone says. But some of my complaints were that I'd seen the general setting a million times, & that the plot could have been tighter, both things that Korra does differently. But that's a tentative comparison, because Korra isn't even half as long yet.
The Promise: It was pretty bad. There was a lot of character derailment, & pretty much the whole second act could have been cut out. I didn't even think that it was particularly fun filler, because Toph's students were so ridiculously 1-dimensional. Also, while it was supposed to bridge the gap between Korra & Aang, it did very little, hence why they keep making more trilogies. Also so that they can have a marketing tie-in for each Book of Korra.
The Search: It's much better than The Promise. The art has improved, the story is more interesting, the characters act more logically. I don't really like the whole Ikem plot twist, I will find it absurd if Zuko's father looks absolutely nothing like him, but if it's not true, then what's the point of this guy? Once again, I'm withholding judgment until it's finished.
If we're including the Mai comic, the art is just embarrassingly bad, but the story is far better than I expected from it.
Instead of just reverting the edit back to your form - you should at least try and discuss it with those who have undone it. Just editing it back all the time can constitute an edit war, which is not constructive to the wiki.
I believe that some quotes, like others in this article, are important to put on it. I would really like it if that quote, one of my faves from the episode, unlike "Hey, RIOT!", is also truly important for the episode.
Basically, look at the article and read it to yourself. Does it feel more smooth with or without the quote? We're going on readability here. Without the quote is a bit simpler and easier to read, thus, it flows easier.
Alright, I guess it does FLOW better, but I really thought this quote was important, or at least would make the article more interesting. Also, Toph's quote at the bottom, "Seriously, you guys didn't find any meat?", seems unneeded and insignificant, and so why have that? The article could flow better without that.
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