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Lady Lostris

aka Lostris

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  • I live in a house.
  • I was born on April 18
  • My occupation is dreaming.
  • I am who I am.
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  • First, I know you're still in Uganda at the time I'm sending you this, but I hope you'll eventually see it.

    This project , started by MackyDraws, on Tumblr, is getting bigger than expected, getting personal and stuff like that (volunteer, not paid); and I was wondering if we could get any help on setting up the wiki, and make it clear in it that it's unofficial.

    We might have to copy information directly from the pages (such as, making a Korra page, and ADDING additional FANMADE information such as post-comic events). I have a bit of a problem just making up the templates to make it WORK like Avatar Wiki (though still visually different). What do you think? Can you help us?

    This is the Legend of Genji Wiki at the moment.

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  • For whatever reason, it won't let me post a topic there, so I'm just going to go straight to the source:

    We've got a user who started spouting support for pseudoscience linking race to IQ unprompted, then went on a tirade when I expressed distaste for their racist conspiracy theory, making shit up I never said to claim I hate Asians & support Nazis. When confronted with the fact that actual living Nazis agree with her, she admitted she doesn't care.

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    • Lostris is currently going to tour in Uganda and won't be back until at least September 26. You'll have to try another admin.

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    • Does she have a bot that makes edits under her name? I've always wondered about that. Either way, thanks for the heads up.

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    • Not under her name, but she does have a bot account, Lady Botris. I just happened to spot her most recent edit in recent changes, which was her putting up the notice in her user page, and the edit summary caught my eye.

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    • Oh, I see, it just happened today.

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  • Hey Lostris, just wondering, what do you do to optimize images/how can you tell when they're unoptimized? I just want to know for when I upload images in the future so I can make sure they're of the best quality to save work for other editors. Could you help me identify differences in optimized vs unoptimized as in with the image on Yee's page? If you're too busy-- no worries.

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  • You know you are deleting useful information and doing something no other has established so far by deleting obvious credits?

    There needs to be community consensus before you make decisions like that for The Crossroads of Destiny.

    Additonal voices with credits in this wiki:

    The Warriors of Kyoshi: James Sie as Oyaji wasn't credited in the episode, but the Wiki does because he's credited later.

    The King of Omashu: James Sie as the cabbage merchant wasn't credited, same like Oyaji; Baker voiced Flopsie but wasn't credited

    Jet (episode): Jim Meskimen as the old man; no other man who could've possibly voiced the old man was credited as additional voice (Baker sounds different)

    The Storm: Jim Meskimen as Lt. Jee wasn't credited, he's listed as additional but in 1x13 he's listed as Jee

    The Blue Spirit: Baker as Miyuki, no credit, but Baker does all animal voices (exceot maybe Bosco)

    The Fortuneteller: Cameron Monaghan as Ping and Pong (twins), no credit but all the other additional voices were too old to voice them

    Bato of the Water Tribe: Jodi Carlisle as Herbalist, Tsai Chin as Aunt Wu, Scott Menville as Messenger, Baker as Miyuki; Carlisle, Chin and Baker voiced these three in the previous episodes, but only credited as additional here; the Messenger sounds nothing like Basco or Baker who're credited as additional so it can only be Menville; by your logic all of this shoud be deleted

    The Deserter: Scott Menille as Malu; same, he was voicing every young character in season 1 and 2 and has a distinct voice

    The Waterbending Master: Jack Angel as Pirate captain, wasn't credited for the captain but he only voiced in Avatar when the captain was seen, see the conclusion here?

    The Siege of the North, Part 2: Mark Hamill as the baboon Spirit, no credit but you can clearly hear his voice and it was confirmed in the audio commentary that it indeed is Hamill

    The Avatar State: Takayo Fisher as Lo and Li, also only as additional voice but Fisher was credited for these two characters later on, so...

    .... (up to the finale there are credits/information like these)

    I didn't search further than 2x01 but you get the message. This is all valuable information that is in this Wikia for years. Some found out by additional information of the cast, some by exclusion process, some by having a good ear, some by simple logic. Don't decide something that's not established and would cost useful and interesting information. I ask you to revert your changes, because you're enforcing a rule that nobody decided upon.

    Thanks and have a nice evening!

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    • The "credited" section reflects the official credits show at the end of the episode itself. If the voice actor is credited for a particular role by an official source (Wikipedia and IMDb are not official sources, and " some by exclusion process, some by having a good ear, some by simple logic" is definitely not a source, that's speculation and will therefore never be accepted), it will get noted on their page and possibly in the trivia section of that particular episode but not the credit section as they were not credited by the episode.

      As for me removing the credits without community consensus: this is longstanding practice on the Avatar Wiki. That section is for episode credits and episode credits only.

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    • " As for me removing the credits without community consensus: this is longstanding practice on the Avatar Wiki. That section is for episode credits and episode credits only."

      I just wrote you a list of instances in which a voice didn't have specific role credit.

      In 2x18 Meskimen voiced How and was credited. In 2x19 How had a minor role and Meskimen was credited as additional voice without the role, but the wikia page is specifically saying that he voiced him in 2x19. Then why is it a problem if I do the same in 2x20 where How had a line too? It's the same thing but two decisions/practices in this wikia.

      You should then delete the Herbalist and Aunt Wu in 1x15 because Jodi Carlisle and Tsai Chin weren't credited specifically for them in that episode. Doesn't matter if the exclusion process tells us that Ms. Chin voiced her, by your logic. If you say there is a "longstanding practice" then prove it. The list I provided is the rebuttal to that.

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    • I am unable to verify all that due to not having my copies of the DVDs with me right now. That said, I want to make one thing clear: none of this is "my logic". It is, as I told you, how this wiki has always handled the episode credit sections. The prove is in the episode histories whenever someone added a credit they found elsewhere than the episode credits and added it. If there are instances that say otherwise, then that's more likely an oversight than anything else.

      If you want to change that and add credits by deduction (in the sense of "adding credit to episode A for a character because they were credited for said character in episode B but not A") then I suggest you just start a War Room discussion asking for an adaption of the use of the episode credit section.

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  • First Gentleman is the customary title of the husband of a President, the male counterpart of a First Lady. Had Hillary Clinton won the election, it's what you would've called Bill. The Philippines' second woman President's husband was addressed as such.

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    • Ah yes, now I see the context XD I initially thought it was some wacky title Varrick assumed for himself.

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    • Sorry to butt in, but should we be using the term First Gentlemen if it hasn't appeared in canon? Yes, logically speaking, one would assume that would be his title since the title of First Lady was used but if it hasn't been said in canon they could use a different title so I don't know if it should be listed.

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    • Asami was fully accepted as CEO of Future Industries without being actually addressed as one. 

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  • Hello, I'm sorry to bother you, but I was just browsing the "Fashion" page and noticed that my recent additions for Aang's evolving styles has been deleted. Would that info. be better placed somewhere else?, beacuse I honestly thought it was a good addition and don't understand why it was deleted. 

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    • Those "[something] in the world of Avatar" pages are general overview pages. Their point is not to document the, in case of fashion, outfit changes of a specific character, which is why I removed the additions.

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    • Alright, thanks.

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    • Anytime. That said, though, thank you for all the editing work you've been doing, all the rewords and repositioning. It's much appreciated :-D

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  • Hello Lostris,

    I've decided to start writing Fanon work based on the sadly now-defunct Avatar RP Wiki, I've noticed though that templates like Template:Property and the infoboxes cannot tolerate using capitalised wording of the theme (ie "Air" etc). This can be quite easily remedied by using {{lc:}} inside the templates to force the incoming text into lower case and would make them more robust.

    I realise it's probably a little late to roll out upgrades like this as new pages aren't made that frequently anymore, but I'm more than happy to still fix them up if you'd like.

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    • That's probably because there is no need to be typing in all caps in those templates? ^^" None of our template coding works with capital letters. It's a consistency thing.

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    • Fair enough, I prefer to make templates idiot-proof so that they're more robust (programmer's habit), but if that's how you want to keep them then sure thing.

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    • I very much appreciate the idea and the willingness to make changes around here, a fresh input is always appreciated :-D i Just think in this case, it's better to just "teach" the users that capitals don't work, as they won't work on the canon side either when used inside the coding. But if you have any more ideas, feel free to throw them around.

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  • Hey! Not sure if your bot can do this, but would it be possible to have Botris run through and add links to the Creeping Crystals article where it's listed, and the same with Zhen? Zhen's my fault because I had no idea we had an article on him, lol. If that's too complicated I can go through and try and do it myself!

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    • Tee-hee *angelface*

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    • I approve 200% :P

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  • I just added my first image to the Wiki ("Tarrlok's Gala.jpg"), and I think I covered all the bases. If there's anything I've missed, please let me know (I've had image issues with other Wikis I've worked on and want to make sure things are done properly).

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    • I'm sorry, but I had to delete the image for not being up to AW standard: it was a jpg file with a logo on it, which are 2 things we try to avoid.

      As for the sourcing you added, it was close but not entirely correct.

      Your version:

      {{Imagebox
      |Korra
      |Tenzin
      |Pema
      |Republic City
      |description = Korra, Tenzin, and Pema arrive at Tarrlok's Republic City Gala, held in Korra's honor.
      |series = Legend of Korra
      |season = Book 1: Air
      |episode = Episode 4: The Voice in the Night
      |source = korra.avatarspirit.net
      |origin = http://hdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/korra/104/1077.jpg
      |license = canon
      }}

      What it should've been:

      {{Imagebox
      | description = Korra, Tenzin, and Pema arrive at Tarrlok's Republic City Gala, held in Korra's honor.
      | film        = 
      | series      = 2
      | season      = 1
      | episode     = 4
      | source      = korra.avatarspirit.net
      | origin      = http://hdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/korra/104/1077.jpg
      | cats        = Korra|Tenzin|Pema|
      | license     = canon
      }}

      So basically, you typed too much :-p

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    • For future reference, what would be the prefered format (if not jpg)?

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    • Png

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    • Okay, thanks.

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  • I don't want to be a pest, but the oldest has been going on for a week now, and there are a total of 5 people complaining about this issue:

    https://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:1377606#60

    https://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:1377748

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