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Alternate universe characters

AvatarRokusGhost

Hey H-Man. I deleted the category you created for alternate universe characters since there's no real need to make a general fanon category for for characters in one fanon. Also, it was for original characters within a certain genre, and we don't have "background story characters (fanon)" or "one-shot characters (fanon)."
The category can always be undeleted, so if you disagree, we can always have a discussion about recreation.

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- H-Man Havoc
  
  It isn't meant for single fanon characters. I just so happened to tag all the AU characters from a single fanon. The idea is for everyone else to use the cat to tag their out-of-place characters.
  
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  But why would AU-story characters get a category in contrast to other genres, who don't have separate categories for their characters?
  
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- H-Man Havoc
  
  I believe AU characters should because unlike one-shot and background story characters, the AU characters are much more noticeable because they clearly do not belong to the fanon at the outset.
  
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- AvatarRokusGhost
  
  Hm...perhaps. It's a fuzzy line, though. AU characters could mean characters in an alternate avatarverse (which would mean most fanon characters), a completely different universe (like in a crossover) or in something like HotN or A:TLAR. Would the category really be useful if it was so widespread?
  
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- Lady Lostris
  
  The "Alternative universe (fanon)" category is interpreted very broad on this wiki, encompassing every world that is not the Avatar wold as it was introduced in either series (also meaning future evolutions of that world). That category encompasses new worlds where there is an Avatar (like HotN) or the real world (like Alone). All those are AU stories on this wiki, but that does not mean that the characters of those stories are "Alternative universe characters (fanon)" as the category implied. To make both the characters category and the story category coincide, the "AU character" category would have to encompass every character that was not introduced in either series -which is too broad. Or if we would actually limit the scope of that category and solely include crossover characters, then the applicability would be very limited and thus not be necessary. Just my two cents.
  
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- H-Man Havoc
  
  I feel you're misinterpreting my thought process ARG. When I mean AU characters, I mean those that exist intentionally in one fanon, but say that they somehow arrived in another fanon or universe. Take the characters I had initially categorized as part of the category. Each of them are AU characters because they originally belonged to the Teen Titans universe before being sucked through a portal of some sort and ending up in the Avatar world. Another example of an AU character I believe would be character Tengu, since he appears in fanons outside of his Avatar: Wanted storyline if I remember correctly.
  
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- Lady Lostris
  
  Tengu would likely be a bad example, as the fanons he appeared in were all written from a Wanted-verse pov, even though not being part of the original Wanted-story.
  
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- AvatarRokusGhost
  
  So this would be characters that happen to travel from one universe to another within a fanon. That sounds like it would include every character in Vortex. Or would this be solely for characters from completely different universes like Teen Titans who came to the Avatarverse? That's a fairly limited category that I'm not sure too many would search for. There's the ones you added, one of the characters from The Weatherbenders and a couple from Avatar: Choices, though I'm not sure they have character pages.
  
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- H-Man Havoc
  
  Something along the lines of both. Heck if Aang made an appearance in WANWTE he'd be considered AU.
  
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- AvatarRokusGhost
  
  How would an Aang appearance in WANWTE be AU? WANWTE takes place in the ATLAverse. That's like saying any canon character in a fanon is AU.
  
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- Lady Lostris
  
  Personally, I find that a way too broad description, which would then effectively take away any navigational benefit that comes from categorization.
  
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- H-Man Havoc
  
  I guess not then. But strictly speaking, the AU category would be for characters who exist outside of their original fanon or universal settings.
  
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- Lady Lostris
  
  Yes, I understand that, but it is just that which would make it too broad imo as there are often subtle nods from one author to a character of another universe, which would then also fall under this category. But that's just my take on it.
  
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- H-Man Havoc
  
  To prevent that, such a character would probably have to physically appear in the extraneous fanons to be considered AU; it wouldn't be warranted if they were simply mentioned.
  
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- Lady Lostris
  
  The nods often are appearances, but that's just an example of why I think that this category would be way too broad to actually serve a navigational purpose.
  
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PSUAvatar14

Hey H-Man,
I would recommend taking that category you created to a forum. Just because something's done on other wikis doesn't mean it should be created here - as I see that to be your reasoning for making it.

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  I just posted a new forum about it. The category page should remain until further notice though.
  
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- PSUAvatar14
  
  If the question is about having it or not, we should maintain the current status quo - which is not having it, unless discussion changes it otherwise.
  Also, as this is a wiki change, you should take it to the war room.
  
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- AvatarRokusGhost
  
  If the category is deleted and then the forum decides to have it, undeleting it is a quick process. There's no reason for it to stay up at the present with nothing in it.
  
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- H-Man Havoc
  
  True.
  
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- GokuSSF2
  
  Let me know when they approve of the quote.
  
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- H-Man Havoc
  
  Just head to the war room and state your opinion on the matter in that specific forum... better that way than waiting for the verdict.
  
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- GokuSSF2
  
  I guess I'm leaning towards not using this category based on how the meeting is going.
  
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- GokuSSF2
  
  So, add the category or not?
  
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- PSUAvatar14
  
  Not unless the forum consensus says to do so.
  
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- GokuSSF2
  
  OK, I'll wait
  
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- PSUAvatar14
  
  Just saying though, if the consensus decides the category should not be created, then don't add it.
  
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- GokuSSF2
  
  I know. I saw him do it, so I decided to help out, be useful, you know.
  
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Lion Turtle

Waragon

Where is mentioned this, that lion turtle from "The Last Airbender" was the last?

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- H-Man Havoc
  
  Directly from the old Nick ATLA site, and it's also referenced on the Lion turtle page.
  
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Lady Lostris

Just so you know, it's not mandatory in any way for fanon characters to have the icons up. It's the author's choice whether or not to add them, so there is not really a need to go around adding them. Some might just not like them or something.

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Comment on Review

Typhoonmaster

What do you mean "top portion out of alignment?"

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- H-Man Havoc
  
  When I looked at the review, the top portion was not on the page, but rather all the way on the right of my screen. I reloaded the page, and then accessed it again, and both times the same thing occurred.
  
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  Huh, that's odd. It loads fine for me. Any idea why it would be like that? All my previous reviews are of the exact same format, and they turned out fine.
  
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  May be a caching issue.
  
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  What does that mean?
  
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  Do you think you could take a look at the code? Here [[1]]
  
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- H-Man Havoc
  
  Looks fine now. I can access the page with the info appearing normally (the actual blog review I mean).
  
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  I moved the frs template a tiny bit, I think that was the problem.
  
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  Yeah, it may have been.
  
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The Western Air Temple (episode)

Justiceforall17

Hi, Har-el
I need you to do something for me.
I want to access this page, but Omnibender deleted it five years ago.
http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/The_Western_Air_Temple_(episode)
Can you please temporarily restore the page and send me the contents of the page on the reply to this message.
Thank you,
Justice

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  Hey,
  It doesn't look like I can restore the page; no option for me to implement.
  
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  I know rollbacks can restore deleted comments, but I think you'd have to ask an admin to restore a deleted page.
  
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Pic Size

Originalavatarnerdling

I noticed you uped the size ratio on Year 42. You know if you click the images they enlarge right? LOL XD

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- H-Man Havoc
  
  Yes, however it is common practice to designate a size ratio for pics on fanons. Ideally this is between 100-200px for article pics and 250px for infobox pics.
  
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  Alright =)
  
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You're Back!!

AcerEvan

Glad you back. :)

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- H-Man Havoc
  
  Thanks. I'm not out of the woods yet. I've been back for a bit, since I wrote that blog, but I've been erratic. Still not fully regular again yet.
  
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  Yeah..
  
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Biographical Box

ThatCrazyKid

I want to put a biographical box on my user page and see you have one. Do you think you cold tell me how to put one in?
Thanks.

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The Hawky Awards May 2012 - Bowl Of Pabu

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Congratulations, H-Man Havoc!

You are a winner of a Bowl Of Pabu in The Hawky Awards ceremony of May 2012 in the Opinionated category as a recognized placed nominee.

The Hawky Awards · The Hall of Fame

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