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  • Hey there ^_^

    Was just seeking some clarification on referencing. As I understood it, we reference rather specifically here. Namely we reference the show, the season/book the thing we are referencing came from and then the episode/chapter that it came from as well for extra depth. This is a precise, thorough and, personally, awesome way to allow readers to instantly verify and find the information we are stating as fact here.

    Given that, how is it then okay to use a rather broad "Throughout Avatar: The Last Airbender" in some cases? We could say that about practically anything - by that remark, we might as well list practically everything not referenced on the Cuisine page with such a broad stroke, defeating the purpose in referencing in the first place.

    It is the equivalent of saying "Oh, yeah it was in the show but you (the reader) have to watch the entire show to find out exactly when." Such makes referencing, pointless, no?

    Or, if such broad referencing is allowed, is it not best to reference the first instance the item in question is seen (in this case, rice) and then end it with "etc" or "and last seen in [name episode]"?

    I look forward to your clarification. Thanks!

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    • I personally don't think it's necessary. It's covered under the first dot point of the "where do our policies come from?" part of the policy page.

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    • Ah okay :D

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  • So I believe there was a WR discussion (of course, one I can't find now >_>) that spirits are gendered the same way as their voice actors, which is a decision I actually disagree with and to be honest I don't think we should be gendering the spirits at all. I don't know how you feel but if you agree I'd be willing to put it up a fight in the War Room for it as long as I knew somebody was backing me up.

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    • I saw this and then forgot about it sorry ;_;

      I think I remember that forum, though I don't know of the specifics either.

      I do agree with you, though: if their gender is unknown, we should probably use they/them. I mean, we could also use it, but given that they are sentient, I'd prefer a proper pronoun. Unless they have had a gender ascribed to them in the show, such as if Korra refers to them by a particular pronoun, then it should be the neutral pronoun.

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    • I'm fine with that, I can put it to the War Room later tonight.

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    • Awesome. I have a really late night today (lol like I'll finish work in about 12 hours) but I'll add my input when I can. Feel free to link to my other comment though if you want :)

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    • Oops I wound up forgetting LOL, I have the forum up now

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  • Sorry I don't know what Aimee Mann is! But I love Back to the Future - probably one of my favorite movies!

    My favorites are the first and second ones. I'm not really a fan of the third, but it's aright... what do you think?

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    • ;_; ples

      ur killing me

      aimee mann is a god and like. even the "vintage" and "eclectic" record stores i visited yesterday were like 'uhhh who?'

      brb crying

      she was the lead singer of 'til tuesday and did most of the magnolia soundtrack and won a grammy last year

      and i will always love the original xD it's my fav movie to just rewatch because there's always new easter eggs and things to uncover xD i mean, i like the second and third fine, but they kinda need to be watched together, because they were written like that. the first is fine as a standalone imo

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    • XD I'll check her out then! I agree - the original is probably the best. Technically, it didn't need a sequel or even a third installment, but yes, there are definitely so many easter eggs which are always fun to discover.

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    • please do xD her stuff in 'til tuesday was awesome, but predictably 80s-ish. and then she did some solo stuff which definitely sounds 90s and early 2000s (because it kinda was) but her newer stuff is better and better. my favourite album is 'lost in space', fyi xD

      it's one of the few trilogies, imo, that actually didn't destroy itself

      like blade. blade 2 was better than blade 1, and blade 3 was so bad that i haven't actually watched it. a trusted friend told me not to bother xD

      but yeah i love bttf. a friend got me super into it last year and it still hasn't faded xD

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  • This project , started by MackyDraws, on Tumblr, is getting bigger than expected, getting personal and stuff like that (volunteer, not paid); and I was wondering if we could get any help on setting up the wiki, and make it clear in it that it's unofficial.

    We might have to copy information directly from the pages (such as, making a Korra page, and ADDING additional FANMADE information such as post-comic events). I have a bit of a problem just making up the templates to make it WORK like Avatar Wiki (though still visually different). What do you think? Can you help us?

    This is the Legend of Genji Wiki at the moment.

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    • You can't just copy and paste our articles, as that's plagiarism (and given the sheer number of links, not entirely feasible).

      I'm afraid I had nothing to do with the templates on this wiki. The most I contributed is updating the cite: templates, years ago. IIRC, it was... 888 who first created our templates. They've been updated since, but the framework is his.

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    • Sorry to butt in, but if you're copypasting from wikia pages to other wikia pages it's actually completely not plagiarism thanks to our great capable overlords 9_9 (I know becuase it happened to my wiki). As long as you credit it and it's on another wikia site it is not technically plagiarism.

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    • Also, Airmaster, did you get permission from the artist/writer of Tale of Genji to make that wiki? (I know for making a fan wiki of something permission isn't necessarily always needed but it would still be good to check beforehand). The content for Genji is all published on a separate, non-wiki blog, and it's clear that the author intended for it to be read in that format. I'm not sure they would appreciate having their content distributed across other sites.

      I understand that you might be trying to help drive up support for the fan project, but creating a separate wiki for it is not only unnecessary but could actually result in taking site traffic away from the original blog, which as you must realize has the opposite-than-intended effect. I know my opinion doesn't hold much weight here, but I would strongly suggest that you do not make that wiki.

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    • ShonenChicoBoy wrote:
      Also, Airmaster, did you get permission from the artist/writer of *Legend of Genji to make that wiki?

      I'm in her Team, I DID get permission through our Discord.

      If it plagiarizes, I will only get information that the reader should know, written in a different way, and with a link on top redirecting to the corresponding page in the wiki.

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  • 啊! 我不知道了你说中文吧。我也学中文但我的中文是很不好...

    I didn't know you were a linguist (that's my degree as well).

    Anyway: About Amon's page. Yeah I understand the reasoning there, but yeah I'm still a bit pissed because it seems as though everytime I edit on this wiki my edits are reverted for one reason or another. Yes, I admit that adding one bit of trivia isn't exactly a significant edit, so I'm not upset about that, what I am upset about is that me as well as I'm sure (a few) other new(er) users feel as though we can't contribute to the wiki at all. All the admins literally handle everything, and while the quality of this site is great, the community is less-so. I think you admins need to put together some kind of an open-edit task list or something so that guys like me who aren't in on the inner circle of the Dai Li can actually help and contribute to the wiki in meaningful ways without feeling like we are being constantly shut down by an elitist sect of the White Lotus (or are terrified to even edit at all, which is often the case as well). Or at the least make standards of editing quality more readily available for users to accesss, because atm it seems as though there are a lot of double standards at play.

    For example, cutting out a reference to Amon Göth is one thing on Amon's page, but if you take a look there also seem to be a lot of irrelevant, redundant, and/or low-quality "trivia" listed there as well. If one is bad shouldn't the others be considered bad too? I've noticed this on a lot of other trivia pages as well. Perhaps the wiki could use a trivia section clean-up. Or at the least something that establishes some form of measuring what is actually relevant to an article's trivia section and what should be counted as mere fan speculation/a TV trope.

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    • Fruipit wrote: And obviously my comment above speaks only for me and not the rest of the wiki xD I have no issue with trivia, but it often seems to be easier to decide that something is irrelevant, versus when something is relevant.

      ...but saying that Amon shares a name with a war criminal is not, unless other links can be made between the two.

      Right because, to use our example here: to you Amon sharing his name with a Nazi isn't relevant, but to me the fact that Amon uses a combination of playing on his listeners' fears and using skilled rhetoric lines up with the Nazi party's propoganda strategies, as well as the fact that Amon's revolution uses a "race" conflict as a centerpoint as Nazism did, gives enough relevancy between him and a historical Nazi who has the same name (and who also served as the major villain in a famous film) enough relevancy to warrant its place on a trivia section.

      Especially when, at the same time, on Amon's page we have trivia like this:


      The red disc featured on Amon's mask was also the symbol of the Egyptian sun god Amun, whose name can similarly be spelled as Amon.
      In Binsfeld's classification of demons, Amon is the name of one of the seven princes of Hell, who tempts people with the sin of wrath. This is similar to how Amon roused the frustration and hatred of the nonbending populace to further his goals.
      The Anonymous group, an internet movement or concept of anonymous activists who protest political injustice, often uses a Guy Fawkes mask as a symbol for the movement and as a disguise, which is similar to the mask Amon used. Amon sounds similar to "Anon", which is used as an abbreviation for "Anonymous".


      Amon bore similarities to the character "V" from the movie V for Vendetta. Much like Amon, V was portrayed as a mysterious anarchist, vigilante, and freedom fighter who was easily recognizable by his Guy Fawkes mask and dark clothing. According to Alan Moore, one of the character's creators, V was designed to be morally ambiguous, similar to how Amon was perceived as a hero by some and a tyrant by others.

      The latter, especially, seem like hackneyed fan speculation theories more than show-relevant trivia. And that's what I mean by double standards. As I said before, I'm not upset that you undid my edit, but I am upset that somehow what I added was percieved to be less relevant than some of the trivia that is already there. It's one or the other. You can't pick and choose on enforcing a policy: it has to be all or nothing. Otherwise, like I said, there is no way to measure consistency so it becomes like what we have here: what you say is relevant vs. what I say is relevant. Of course, it is difficult to enforce a policy when there seems to be no working policy. Thus, the war room.

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    • As said, you're more than welcome to begin a war room discussion if you choose :)

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  • Thanks for completing the fanon categories there! I had to go abruptly, so I wasn't able to do it myself :P

    Nice having you back btw!

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    • hey no problem my dude! i saw them earlier but was at work, so im glad you got it started!

      heh thanks xD i'll definitely try and stick around this time, promise! :P

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  • So that they can not talk to u on your wall or in discussion

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  • Alright, it's a 13-month delay this time. I admit it, I'm guilty. But if you thought last chapter was chaotic (if you still remember it after a year), then this one will be utter madness.

    Watch what happens to Yuhan when you leave him in a cursed labyrinth by himself...

    Read Chapter 26 here!

    p.s. I dedicate this chapter to Mageddon725. More details on that if you happen to visit the chapter page.

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  • PFV

    So, I'm just checking about the edit you deleted because it was a non-ability.  I think it's important to make note of the fact that he is able to take on multiple benders without bending abilities because it denotes his combat abilities.  Compare with, say, Katara, who takes on multiple benders, but has her own bending abilities.  Does underlining his extraordinary proficiency somehow diminish him?

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