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Ok, fist I would just like to say this is the first time I've created one of these so if I do something wrong sorry. Ok now that thats out of the way I would like to propose an official wiki trivia contest be held every so often. Now I know a bunch of people dont like these contests, but the reason I'm proposing this is the sheer number of recent, and largely unsuccessful trivia games that have been cropping up lately, wouldnt it just be simpler if we had an official one every so often and the rest of the time could be spent editing. I have no preference on how such a contest would be held, who would hold it, when it would be held, or how often it would be held, that should be left to you guys, the community, and thats assuming this is even a good idea. However, I believe that having a contest hosted in spaced intervals, instead of many different ones always popping up would be better for the participants and leave more time for editing.--Boomeraang Squad, always right back at ya. (wall • contribs) 08:49, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
- I kind of oppose this -and every other random trivia contest that has nothing beneficial for the site and only brings for socializing -which is a nice thing, but not the point of this wiki. The only trivia contest that is beneficial and thus can stay imo is the fanon trivia contest as its main point is to get fanons noticed, whereas just random Avatar trivia contests only strive to find out who is the biggest Avatard, which is a rather irrelevant goal if you ask me. Lady Lostris (talk • HotN) 14:46, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
I support the proposal. It would be a great thing to promote community spirit, we are after all, a community of avatar fans.TheBigO Fan
Be the leaf 15:01, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
- I think that there is no need for an official trivia contest, as that just says, "I want a simpler way to get more participants". I also understand that you are proposing we limit unofficial trivia contests, which is also unnecessary. Currently, I think we are fine as we are. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)
15:17, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose per Lady. I think that if we had an official trivia contest it would actually cause more users to make trivia contests rather than less. Truly
Ferret 17:56, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
- I don't see a need for an official trivia contest. Whatever is put in a trivia contest is subjective, so it would be a nuisance for the wiki to sort out. I think that the status quo is fine for now. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon)
18:04, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Roku, the entire point is that there would just be an official one, therefore limiting all the different random ones, as for the people who are opposed to them, I respect that stance, but they happen, this would both limit them and regulate them, so I beleive to be better than a bunch of random ones that take up too much time.--Boomeraang Squad, always right back at ya. (wall • contribs) 19:07, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
- I get that, but I don't see a problem in need of a solution. The other trivia contests take up the time of those who choose to make them and those who choose to follow them. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon)
19:12, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Fair point, just thought it might be a good idea —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boomeraang squad (wall • contribs) This note was added on 02:05, August 27, 2012 (UTC).
- I get that, but I don't see a problem in need of a solution. The other trivia contests take up the time of those who choose to make them and those who choose to follow them. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon)
- Roku, the entire point is that there would just be an official one, therefore limiting all the different random ones, as for the people who are opposed to them, I respect that stance, but they happen, this would both limit them and regulate them, so I beleive to be better than a bunch of random ones that take up too much time.--Boomeraang Squad, always right back at ya. (wall • contribs) 19:07, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose per Lady. I think that if we had an official trivia contest it would actually cause more users to make trivia contests rather than less. Truly
I think we should have an official trivia contest, maybe like a regular trivia contest in the BSST newsletter.TheBigO Fan
Be the leaf 02:08, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
- I like that idea but thats up to the newsletter more than the community, and they do have a pole, but you should mention it to the current editor.--Boomeraang Squad, always right back at ya. (wall • contribs) 19:15, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
- Who is the current editor?TheBigO Fan
Be the leaf 19:18, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
- I oppose this, first off because officializing a trivia contest gives off the feeling that we're a social network, a standard which we wholly reject here. Also, when did having multiple trivia contests become such a problem? Azulazulazula (Life is like a tall cliff...)
19:30, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
- A social network? They have regular trivia contests? Either way not the point.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Boomeraang squad (wall • contribs) This note was added on 21:04, August 28, 2012 (UTC).
- I oppose this, first off because officializing a trivia contest gives off the feeling that we're a social network, a standard which we wholly reject here. Also, when did having multiple trivia contests become such a problem? Azulazulazula (Life is like a tall cliff...)
- Who is the current editor?TheBigO Fan
Does having a regular BSST Triva column count as Official?TheBigO Fan
Be the leaf 19:36, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
- I have no idea, id talk to someone from the paper—Preceding unsigned comment added by Boomeraang squad (wall • contribs) This note was added on 21:04, August 28, 2012 (UTC).
I am the deputy editor of the BSST, and here's my response. A contest in the newsletter would be a bit more official, yes, but if you want it in there, you guys have to run it. Just because it could be classified as official, that doesn't mean high-up users are going to manage it for you. Like all other columns in the BSST, you'll have to be responsible for making each round of trivia and sending it in to us.
And a question to you guys, what are you classifying as "official"? What's the difference between an official trivia contest and an unofficial trivia contest? That it says "Official" in big letters at the top, gives it some sort of trivia authority that others are going to compete with, and has more users having to take care of it and work out creating trivia pages and announcements? Seems to me that's a lot more hassle than it's worth. BlackMonkey Talk - Rhythm 21:25, August 28, 2012 (UTC)
- BM: Sorry for responding so late. I have no trouble providing trivia for such a contest if you would want such a thing in your paper, and I'm sure I could find some more people willing to help, however the depiction still remains with the paper, if you want me to, post something on my wall.--Boomeraang Squad, always right back at ya. (wall • contribs) 03:13, September 1, 2012 (UTC)
- Funny, how when you can't find any fault in my reasoning, Boomeraang, you decide to spin my words around as a last resort. No, social networks don't do trivia contests, but trivia contests make for very socialized aspects, and I see no reason why we should officialize something that gives off the idea that that's our primary goal. This wiki's main purpose is not to have fun, no matter how many times people repeat it. Our newsletters are official because they keep us up-to-date on what's happening on the wiki. User groups are official because they contribute to the wiki. Nothing social has ever become official on this wiki, not even the wildly popular Avatar Tournament, because they're irrelevant and the wiki can do just fine without them. We officialize things we need/greatly value. Trivia contests fit neither of those categories.Azulazulazula (Life is like a tall cliff...)
21:33, August 28, 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose, per all. Triva contests should remain trivial. Making this official implies that the wiki condones such a distraction to its primary charter, which is of course not the case. KettleMeetPot • wall 00:34, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
- I also oppose, per everyone. Trivia contests are predominantly for socializing, which is not something that it condoned on the wiki. Annawantimes (Talk) 00:46, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry I'm not responding till now, I've been on two planes and through a six hour time change. Anyway azula, last resort? I thought this might be a neat idea and while I have no trouble respecting an arguement about why this is not a good idea, stating that an official trivia contest would turn the site into facebook is not a problem I see stemming from this nor relevant. Everyone who has disagreed with me has pointed at a valid problem. Turning the wiki into a social network isn't one. I didn't twist your words at all. As for official icing it, I was by no means implying the Wu needed this, just pointing out that it could potentially increase editing and give people a drive to delve further into the avatar world. Bythe way the statement I. Replying to, though antagonistic, made much more sense and actually pointed out a valid concern.--Boomeraang Squad, always right back at ya. (wall • contribs) 03:09, September 1, 2012 (UTC)
- Per everyone who're oppose. I love trivia contest, I love to socializing, but we should place it on right place. Just like socializing-case, it can be through: IRC and Newsletter, but mainly on chat. If trivia contest will be official, the main purpose of the wiki itself will be meshed. We can't see the encyclopedic anymore; that's why we have policy. There are several benefit by unofficial-icing the trivia contest:
- We can create the contest as creative as our creativity, not strict at one, solid trivia contest.
- We can create our-own version.
But don't forget to keep the contest on the way, not boom-quantity it to dozens of contests. Acer Indonesia Ask anything about fanon! •
14:32, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
- Per everyone who're oppose. I love trivia contest, I love to socializing, but we should place it on right place. Just like socializing-case, it can be through: IRC and Newsletter, but mainly on chat. If trivia contest will be official, the main purpose of the wiki itself will be meshed. We can't see the encyclopedic anymore; that's why we have policy. There are several benefit by unofficial-icing the trivia contest:
- I don't know how just having an official trivia contest makes this site less encyclopedic, the wiki has blog spots, user awards and a Fanon namespace which are not encyclopedic at all. It wouldn't hurt to just have an official trivia contest. TheBigO Fan
Be the leaf 19:02, September 4, 2012 (UTC)
- An official trivia contest -or any trivia contest that has nothing to do with the wiki, so basically every trivia contest with the exception of the fanon trivia- does not serve any other point than to socialize. The fanon side was merged with the wiki as a whole to gather more traffic for both, so that's an irrelevant point here to bring up. As for blogs, according to our policy, they should be relevant to the wiki or Avatar as a whole, meaning that they should convey a proper message, not just start a conversation/trivia contest. According to current policy, even the trivia contests for the "biggest avatard" should actually not be allowed as they do not bring anything to the site. As for the User Awards, that is totally not the same as some trivia contest as those awards are put to life to thank editors for their hard work on the wiki, not because they know every little detail about the show. Lady Lostris (talk • HotN) 08:08, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know how just having an official trivia contest makes this site less encyclopedic, the wiki has blog spots, user awards and a Fanon namespace which are not encyclopedic at all. It wouldn't hurt to just have an official trivia contest. TheBigO Fan