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Zuko's telescope

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Merge Merge — This article is rather short, consisting of only a single paragraph, and I think the information on this page could easily be moved onto the Zuko's ship article, under crew and equipment. HAMMEROFTHOR 18:17, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Per HoT: no reason this is a standalone page as it is a part of the ship. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:11, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Per HoT. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 00:35, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Per Thor. This page could be merged with Zuko's ship. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 0:58, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — I agree with merge since there isn't much to the telescope in the first place, but it is part of Zuko's ship, so such info can't be deleted but should be moved. --Riadse96 (wallcontribs) 07:45, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Per everyone before me. It has no need to have its own page, its own section on the mentioned page is acceptable.Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 03:40, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

The Last Airbender 2

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Delete Merge Merge — This page is extremely speculative, not a single person on it has officially signed on for it nor has Paramount even hinted that it will be greenlit. It even says, and I quote, " It is likely," "expected to be," "it is assumed" and "possible sequel." Nothing has been confirmed on this page, it is all guess work aside from a couple little hints dropped by M.Night. Therefore, I believe it should be merged.

Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 03:29, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

EDIT- Per Neo and Thailog, this page, while extremely speculative, still has SOME decent information. I now believe that it should merge with The Last Airbender movie page.Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 00:18, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — I disagree with your reasoning but I am not going to fight this. Since article comments are slated to be archived as forum threads per this War Room discussion, straightforward deletion would delete those comments, as well as cause a massive RC flood. Best thing to do is to turn the page into a redirect, i.e., replace entire contents with "# REDIRECT [[Film:The Last Airbender]]". We have to do something similar with future deletions, especially pages with large numbers of comments. The other alternative is to only delete the page but not the talk page, as we have done with The Last Airbender 3 and The Last Airbender 3. Cheers. — Hasdi Bravo • 19:03, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I think this should go. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 03:55, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — This is an absolute keep because for all we now, the 2nd film goes into production and guess what, if we delete the page we have to start all over. Yes it is only but a hypothetical film that may never be made, but the poll there ("Do you think they should make 'The Last Airbender 2'?") shows that about 750 people actually want a sequel with or without Shyamalan with only 100 never wanting any sequel or remake. The page needs to exist until Paramount says an official: "We are never going to make a sequel" since we can all understand the film so far is shelved and we don't know what Shyamalan plans to do after 'After Earth'. Anything could happen, but for now let the page stay in existance.--Riadse96 (wallcontribs) 20:32, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — You're right. This article is bad, & it should feel bad. There's no sense to have an article for a movie that might not even be made. HOWEVER, there is SOME information on this article, in the form of Shya...the director's statements about his plans for the sequel. With a merger, we could remove an unnecessary page, & keep this information.Neo Bahamut (wallcontribs) 22:30, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — we have not herd news about the movie has been moved still going or cancled so I think the page needs to stay period until we hear more news period.(user:gsmith1030) 1:11,September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Per Neo Bahamut. Studios rarely come up and say "we're not making a sequel" so that article may very well stay there forever. Also, the poll is irrelevant and deleted pages can be restored. ― Thailog 09:50, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

  • FYI, I mentioned two reasons to keep this page many many times in past comments. [EDIT: I already voted merge above]
  1. It enables discussion on the first movie to be separated from the sequels. This did not work in practice because haters still feel the need to get in the faces on film fans who visit The Last Airbender 2 for information. When haters were ignored, some of them had leave messages right on my f****king wall. Of course, this reasoning is moot because comments are now disabled on the mainspace so feel free to take TLA2 discussion on Board:General discussion board under Topic:The Last Airbender 2.
  2. Per vote on 888's old blog on "keeping pages at a reasonable length", merging will make the first movie BIGGER but that's how Wikipedia does it. If the community decide it is best to merge all film pages into one page, that's fine and dandy too. Whatever that makes you sleep better at night.
In the past, I moved much of speculative edits on TLA2 into my own blogs and kept the facts on the page. Since then, there were newer information in my comments but not placed on that page. We can't assume most the cast will return though they ARE contracted to return upon Paramount's request.
The poll can be tacked on after the other poll on the first movie page, though I am sure there will be some edit-whoring on the polls being un-encyclopedic or something. Just in case, the poll is now part of my message greeting wall. Icon_biggrin.gif Deleting the page will not delete the possibility of sequel despite some insisting on Tinkerbell logic, e.g. "If people stop believing in the sequels, the sequels are dead". So, vote accordingly but leave Film talk:The Last Airbender 2 alone. Later. — Hasdi Bravo • 17:55, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Unarock's daughter

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This is a redirection page that I don't believe we need. There is already a redirect page for Unalaq's daughter, and both lead to the Desna and Eska article. The difference is that Unalaq is the actual name of their father. To be honest, it just confused me even more because the name was wrong - and that's the primary reason for this. I have just added the {{Delete}} template, however this can be voted on if people believe it's an issue. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 09:28, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I completely agree. Unarock is a misspelling that only spread for about less than a week after SDCC 2012. IF we don't even have a redirect page for Unarock -> Unalaq it doesn't make sense to keep this page. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 19:10, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I agree, we don't need more useless pages cluttering this wiki. I feel like not only do we need to get rid of this redirect page but all others as well. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 00:14, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Redirect pages are good for the search bar. If I search airbenders, it takes me to the notable airbenders section of the airbending page. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 00:33, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I agree this needs to be deleted. This was simply a spelling mistake and does not need to be on this wiki, even to redirect you to the Desna and Eska page. FirebenderAzula Azula sprite23


Shung

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Delete Delete — All we have on him is that he leads the Southern Air Temple Acolytes and welcomed Tenzin and his family with gifts. I say if we get any further information that the article can be recreated later, but right now, I don't think it's worth keeping. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:55, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per reasoning below, and the article is in better shape now. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 19:24, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Still, he was notable enough. We have pages for shorter characters. [<a href="http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ShortPages">http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ShortPages</a> While it maybe the 133th shortest page on the wiki]; the article it not even complete. Srijay K - TechFilmer 17:00, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — He may become a somewhat important figure in the future, and as it was noted, this wiki does have shorter pages. JosephHawk

Keep Keep — I am sure we will get more information on him, and he is an interesting figure to note, particularly in that he's an abbot (first character with that title, shows organizational distinction between monasteries of nomads and acolytes). Waterbending emblem Water Spout 18:06, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I am sure we shall get further information, and if we do not I still think he needs a page. We have pages for things like "Acolyte Woman" and "Town Authority", so the abbot of the southern air temple should certainly have one. Tree_Climber Bonjour! 18:22, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I believe we might learn more about him in later episodes, maybe he will appear in the next ep. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 18:31, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — As the first abbot, he is significant enough to have a page. He was also specifically named. All the page really needed was a bit of a rewrite which has been done now, so imo, there is enough for now to warrant its existence. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 18:56, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Important page since he's the leader of the acolytes. He might make more appearances in the future. Tomkazaz (wallcontribs)

Tenzin's map

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Delete Delete — It is a very minute and irrelevant object. There is nothing notable to be said about it except "it indicates the four air temples and has a caricature of Tenzin on it". There is no need for this. At best, it could be a trivia on Tenzin's page saying, "Tenzin owns a map that indicates the four air temples and has a caricature of himself on it." Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:51, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I concur, it is not a vital piece of information. JosephHawk

Delete Delete — Highly insignificant piece, we don't need it. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:28, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Might appear in the future. Tomkazaz (wallcontribs) 19:02, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

So? That doesn't make the map any more significant. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:06, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Same as stated before, it's completely irrelevant as a full fledged article and as Lostris said, it should at the most take a spot in Tenzin's trivia section. SifuHotman90 Zuko-dobs-c7 19:08, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — with tenzin --Srijay K - TechFilmer 20:01, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — It holds no significance, and wouldn't make sense to include on Tenzin's article other than "he used it around x time". Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 21:54, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Engineer

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Delete Delete — There is no relevant information nor any plot-related relevant information about this guy. He is just a random person who said maybe five sentences and it is very unlikely that he'll return so the changes we'll be able to expand the page are very slim. We don't need a character page for every random person who said something in the series -even if they are credited. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 18:35, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — He may turn out as an important character that will help Asami develop the company. Tomkazaz (wallcontribs)

So? That doesn't mean he is any more relevant now. We don't host random and significant articles in the very off chance that they might someday somehow suddenly evolve into something significant. If it turns out that he gets a larger role, the article can be (re)created then. You are solely basing your wish to keep this article on a completely baseless hypothesis. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:12, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I'd say the page is just about long enough to be kept. He might not be overly relevant plot-wise, but I think the content added is enough to constitute a reasonably sized article. HAMMEROFTHOR 19:32, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Adding fluff is not difficult to get to a decent length, though that does not mean that any of it is relevant. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:40, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
I wouldn't say there is any fluff to that article; that is to say, everything included is worth including. HAMMEROFTHOR 20:46, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I know that as I'm not one to add fluff when I rewrite an article. However, what I meant by that was that it is not that difficult to structure sentences in such a manner that they are longer than they actually have to be without being too long or too fluffy and irrelevant. As such, it is easy to reach an acceptable length, without actually having added any useful and relevant information in light of the series and development. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:04, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Normally I would vote delete, but we do have pages for characters like the Calm man, the Dealer, the Warehouse worker, etc. As long as we're keeping articles like that I see no harm in keeping this. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 21:57, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

The difference between them and this guy is that they had direct plot relevance: the calm man guided Team Avatar to see Aunt Wu; the dealer was the one who started Toph's scamming, leading to Combustion Man setting his trap; the warehouse worker led Korra and the others into Hiroshi's trap, outing the latter as an Equalist. This guy... does absolutely nothing relevant. And in general, it is not because we have a page A that it thus by default has to mean that page B should be accepted. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:04, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
I know that— but I see them all as very similar. Characters with one appearance who do very little but help move the plot along. While the other two may have been directly relevant to the episode, that can be argued for the Engineer as well, he helped enforce Asami to go to visit Varrick. My point was who they are wasn't important, and their pages are essentially restating information that can be found elsewhere. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing pages like them go, but I understand why they are there, and I feel similarly about this page. I don't think its that important, but it is possible he will come back later and he was somewhat relevant to the plot. We have articles on even less significant characters who only appeared once and never talked, so I don't see why this particular page should go. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 23:27, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Ancient airbender head shaver

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Merge Merge — I propose we merge this page with Aang's shaving tool to create a new page named "Air Nomad shaving tool" (or something). Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:24, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — "Air Nomad shaving tools" sounds good. HAMMEROFTHOR 19:40, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — --Srijay K - TechFilmer 20:01, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Merge MergeAvatarKya (wallcontribs) 23:29, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

History Yue - Book I,II,III

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This page is simply unneeded. All the information can be found on her character page. There is not enough information on her past, or the character timeline itself to warrant such a page. FruipyLoops Toph-DoBS-2 15:37, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per Fruipit. The information has just been copied from Yue's page, and I don't see that there is enough to warrant a separate article. HAMMEROFTHOR 15:46, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Sort My Tiles

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Delete Delete — No listing of proof of this being a licensed game. I cannot find it on any official websites or Wayback Machine Ziygo (wallcontribs) 04:03, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — After much searching for proof of this being a Nick.com game myself, I have to agree that it was never a real Nick.com game. Unless anyone can provide evidence to the contrary, it has no place on the wiki. Krazykid51 13:31, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — It looks like it never had anything to do with nick.com, rather a game on an irrelevant site. I don't think we should host an article about another random website's avatar-related game, so I agree. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 00:22, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Freeze-dried cucumberquats

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Delete Delete — Simply put, there isn't enough information for this article. It is a food source mentioned and shown only once. Nothing is really known about it, except that it can be freeze-dried. This article is an unnecessary expansion of the sentence on it, found in the Cuisine in the World of Avatar page. FruipyLoops Toph-DoBS-2 10:50, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per Fruipit's reasoning, a short mention does not warrant an article. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:24, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

Feathered hat man

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Delete Delete —I brought this up once a while ago, but I want to bring it up again. I don't see the reason to have this article, and I'm convinced he's not an actual character but merely a background one that mir reuses in random scenes when they need somebody. He has one line ever, and it could literally have been said by anybody, not relevant to him at all.

To be more specific, he looks different in the only two picture we have of him, one in which he's wearing a scarf, another in which he is wearing a vest, and in the first he has a mustache and in the later he does not, nor is he wearing glasses. Literally the only two connecting pieces between the two being the same hat and similar color scheme.

His history section is essentially "he appeared here here and here", and is ultimately highly irrelevant. Several times when animators don't have the patience to create thousands of random designs, they'll just input default ones they have made already and shove them in random spots, sometimes changing small things. Even if he was an actual character, I don't think appearing for a few seconds warrants having a page on the wiki.Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 20:45, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I've said it before in the talk page, and I'll say it again: the articles isn't even about the same guy, rather several background characters that dressed similar. So there's no reason this article needs to exist. --Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 11:44, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I agree with this assessment - though, ironically, I do recall that I did vote against your first proposal in 2012 on the flimsy basis that we had pages of similar insignificance on the wiki at the time. Of course, the most popular (and infamous) example we had, the "Apple" page, no longer exists - not to mention all the others that were weeded out. So even under the old reasoning, there wouldn't be any ground to stand on. KettleMeetPotwall 12:39, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Fire Nation prison ferry

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Delete Delete — The page describes an object that did not affect the plot in any way other than to return the prisoners of the rig to the shore. Furthermore, the ferry is described as fully as it deserves to be on Military of the Fire Nation and Imprisoned.

Grammarpoliceman 15:40, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — I've been thinking on WS's reasoning more, and a page merge seems like a more reasonable option. Grammarpoliceman 17:08, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Since the ferry is directly related to the prison rig, I see no problem in noting how prisoners are transported from the mainland in the description section. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 15:43, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Per WS. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:18, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Triple Threat Triad earthbender

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Delete Delete — This character had no lines, didn't individually do anything to advance the plot, and the information on his page can easily be found elsewhere on the wiki. Unlike his two companions, he never reappeared, so it's unlikely he will in the future. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 06:29, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Also, the page's History section is questionable: all it does is document the Triad's fight with Korra. The page likely was created not only to document the Earthbender's existence but also of recording the fight play-by-play. If that is to be its longstanding purpose, it needs to go. Grammarpoliceman 16:09, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — True. How did he help advance the plot? Not at all. It needs to be wiped off. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 12:15, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Earth lion turtle

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Merge Merge — The elemental lion turtles all have very similar background. The fire and air turtle might even have enough to warrant their own page, but regardless, I think a generic lion turtle page might be in order. How exactly, not sure yet, so either we merge all the elemental turtles to one page like "Lion turtle cities" (or something), or we merge them with the lion turtle (species) page, but I don't see the point in having many similar though separate pages just because we have images of them. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:15, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Just a question: wouldn't it be better to make this a forum instead of a VfD for that single page since it concerns all of the now four elemental lion turtle pages? Though on that note, I do agree with the reasoning for merging. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:55, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Bamboo

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Delete Delete — There's nothing remotely special or distinctive to keep such a generic article. Unlike the fauna or most flora, as the cactus juice, which are unique to the Avatar Word, bamboo is just as relevant as "apple" (which was deleted for those reasons). ― Thailog 12:40, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — This article holds nothing to indicate its separation from our kind of bamboo, as opposed to an article like the fire lily (which we also have here), which notes it blooming once a year. The article's history section is also comprised of small bits like "they were used here", not creating a nice flow of information. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 12:53, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Definitely per all the reasons I gave for this when I put it up for deletion last time. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:57, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per all above. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:06, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I see no reason why it should be deleted. It serves just the same purpose as any other flora page. It is well written and fully written. AvatarIonathan (wallcontribs) 15:06, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Er, no, not at all: the other flora pages are usually special to the Avatar world in one way or another. This is just a random page telling people what bamboo is -a universally known fact since the plant and its usage in the show is the same as that of the plant in reality. Making a well-written page is extremely easy. However, it's not because something is of quality that it is also useful, and it is the lack of usefulness that warrants this page's deletion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:19, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Delete — This page does not serve a real purpose and should be deleted. JosephHawk

Vatu

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Merge MergeKeep Keep — with Dark spirits. They are the same thing. Srijay K - TechFilmer 15:15, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — So far, Vaatu seems to be its own character. Dark spirits are merely spirits who have become unbalanced. Besides, Vaatu's status as the spirit of chaos and darkness seems to be independent of him being balanced or unbalanced. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:21, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I don't see any indications that the two are one in the same. Vaatu seems to be the spirit of chaos and darkness, while dark spirits are simply spirits out of balance. Nothing indicates that Vaatu has the capacity to attain balance, seeing as how he's in eternal conflict with the spirit of light, so I wouldn't say that the two are the same. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 16:02, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — per Omni and WS. ― Thailog 12:33, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep I reckon it should stay separate because Raava and Vaatu are two separate beings. I think that Vaatu will be seen soon when Unalaq enters the Spirit World again, so more info to come.

Keep Keep — I believe that they are very different. Vaatu creates dark spirits and ,even though he is one himself, is too important to not have a page for. He is an antagonist as well. --Phoenixbender Iroh sprite 14:49, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Vaatu is important to the Beginnings story and he is the main villan in Wan's time.He has an important connection to Raava and he is going to be featured in Episode twelve "Harmonic Convergence".Also Harmonic Convergence means that Vaatu and Raava must fight and since Korra and Raava are one being Korra must fight Vaatu and there will be further information about him. --EarthAvatar5(talk)Bolin sprite 23:51, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — As lame a Villain he may be, getting his as kicked in such an easy way, i say to allow him to be, at least so future generations can see how an spirit which incarnates and represents chaos manages to loss in his own game, violence, to be defeated in a fight... i wonder if Unalaq would laugh at the spirit's incompetence once he get's to see him trapped in that tree. --Doomroar (wallcontribs) 02:59, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — At the end of Beginnings, Part 2, it was states that Korra must fight him again, so his page should be kept as it is. JosephHawk | talk


Can people please stop commenting? Am I the only still able to read the template above saying "Agree with the majority? Speed up consensus by not commenting. Discussion ends three days after the last post."? People still voting keep will not get the template removed faster, it'll do just the opposite. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:50, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Chou brothers

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Merge Merge — Per Chou the Elder. There's no reason to have two, short separate pages when the information could be condensed and iterated just as well on a single page, i.e. Chou family. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 03:15, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Per WS and my arguments above. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 17:57, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Chou the Elder

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Merge Merge — With Chou brothers to create a page about the entire family. I don't think they were significant enough to stand alone entirely, and imo it just makes sense to combine them all into one, since almost everything we have is about all of them together. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 04:13, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — On second thought, I guess I'm not really opposed to that. Might as well go ahead. Just call it something like Chou family? telane (wallcontribs) 04:15, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Per all above. GPFluteAvatar 13:02, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Well, now that a page has been created for the family, I propose merging all relevant information on Chou the Elder and the Chou brothers with that page. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 21:05, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Frog spirit

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Delete Delete — This page is, quite honestly, just unneeded. There is very little information, and there is likely to not be any more information about it. It did not contribute to the series more than a minor scene to show how dangerous the spirit wilds are. There is not justifiable reason for this page to stay, as it is. FruipyLoops Toph-DoBS-2 05:15, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Why not, I mean we have pages for Wei Jin, and Jin Wei (Sp?) and the odd spirit, I see no reason why it can't stay. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 00:20, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I'm not really invested in keeping or deleting it, but I wouldn't mind having it stay, just because the era before the Avatar is so unclear now, and it doesn't hurt documenting as much about it as we can. The page is well-written, it's concise, and otherwise fits just as nicely to the collective as other pages we currently have that aren't necessarily lengthy. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 00:22, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per WS. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:25, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — pre WS and the fact that it has a fair amount of information on it. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:10, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Liang

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Delete Delete — This character did nothing for the series whatsoever, and has only appeared once - as a mention in a comic. It is safe to say that he will never appear again since he was so minor; therefore, I suggest his page be deleted. GPFluteAvatar 01:35, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
Merge Merge — As always, Thor is speaking sense. GPFluteAvatar 02:01, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I feel like his status as a member of the military makes him seem important enough from an IU perspective. I know the information on his page is minimal and likely found elsewhere, but I still think that it is somewhat notable to have pages on known holders of important positions. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 18:08, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — This page was suggested for deletion before, and I stand by my suggestion then; merge the information with Liang's listing on the Military of the Fire Nation page. The listing at the moment reads

  • Admiral Chan, leader of the Eastern Fleet
  • Admiral Jeong Jeong (prior to desertion)
  • Admiral Liang, leader of the Western Fleet
  • Admiral Zhao, overall leader of the navy

which could be easily expanded to:

  • Admiral Chan, leader of the Eastern Fleet
  • Admiral Jeong Jeong (prior to desertion)
  • Admiral Liang, leader of the Western Fleet. He was reported to be in Ba Sing Se shortly after its capture, and also led Fire Navy forces in conquering the East Lake.
  • Admiral Zhao, overall leader of the navy

We already have short "descriptors" for two of the three other admirals listed, so I don't think expanding one a little will look so untidy. HAMMEROFTHOR 22:43, October 27, 2013 (UTC)