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Mo Ce Mongoose Lizards

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Delete Delete — Nothing on it expect for the image from WRC and that they lost Srijay KTechFilmer 10:59, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Per Ruen in Admiral Liang. Merge onto Pro-bendeing Srijay KTechFilmer 06:29, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — If it had their names I would let it go, but we don't even have that, so yeah. Delete. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 11:05, November 12, 2012 (UTC)<

Keep Keep — They have a sufficient visual representation and while there is not much to say about them, there is just enough to warrant a page imo. As a bonus, the page emphasizes how ruthless the Wolfbats can be and how dangerous the sport as a whole is. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:22, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

I'd point out that stating they lost is implied by the fact that Wolfbats won, with Fire Ferrets coming second. Therefore that part is irrelevant. Showing how ruthless the Wolfbats are is not relevant to this team, and it's already stated what is needed on their page. They don't have sufficient visual representation because they appeared for about 5 seconds as they are carried away. We don't really see them fight otherwise, nor introduced like other teams (the rabaroos). Had they been given names, I'd agree, but otherwise, they aren't noteworthy. I'd think this is similar to the Palace Women deleted not too long ago. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 11:28, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
I didn't say the page could be useful to show that the Wolbats won, I said that it was useful to emphasize how brutal they are, something that cannot be implied by knowing that they lost. So no, that part is not irrelevant.
Their loss was the most brutal and fasted loss in the Tournament that we know, so again, no, that's not irrelevant.
They have an image that shows their faces and the color of their outfits, so yes, that is sufficient visual representation.
They have no name, you have that point, but that's the only one.
No, it's not similar to the palace woman as she served absolutely no point at all. The Mo Ce See Lizards at least have relevance to Pro-bending and to emphasize the ruthlessness of the Wolfbats. Every case stands on its own, so no need to draw a comparison with other pages, especially when that comparison doesn't fly. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:34, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
I know you didn't say that, I was just stating it as a fact since that's a main point the page is being deleted. The Wolfbats' page states they won in brutal manner leaving their opponents (the Mongoose Lizards) seriously injured. I'd think that is enough mention, anything else is superfluous. The fact that the Wolfbats were brutal is mostly irrelevant to this team itself.
Ermm, every other team has a picture on WRC game too, is this warranting a page each? Aside from the fact that they were shown (for about 5 seconds), nothing more is different really (we already know that all the other teams lost, so that's not noteworthy). You yourself said an appearance alone doesn't warrant a page. In this case, their appearance isn't worth a page.
I was pointing out the similarities in names, or lack thereof, and brief appearances. Don't read too much into it. :P Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 11:46, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
By that logic you can take a lot of "duplicate" information off our pages as nearly every page has information on it that can also be gathered by having read another page -or simply watched the show, so that's really a moot point.
Yes, every other team has such a picture, I am aware of that, but not every other team was mentioned or shown in the series, this one was, and they were notable by the fact that they suffered the quickest and most brutal knockout of the tournament. So if you read what I have said, you'd see that there is more to say than just "they appeared". I'm not reading too much into anything, I'm just saying that they cannot be compared and that "cases" like this should be gauged by themselves not in a comparison to something else when that comparison doesn't fly. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:51, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
The fact that the Wolfbats were brutal isn't relevant to the Mongoose Lizards, therefore I don't consider what little is actually relevant enough to warrant a page on its own.
Ok, here's what we actually know that's relevant. They are a pro-bending team, they lost horribly. I don't really consider that enough since the same can be applied to every other team aside from the Wolfbats and the Fire Ferrets (with the exception of losing horribly, though we don't know that the Wolfbats didn't beat their other opponents in a similar way). The difference I had between this and the Rabaroos is the names, even then I don't really consider that worth a page.
I was merely pointing out that your argument did include points of a similar nature. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 12:04, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
Since they are the object of their brutality and thus the victims, I'd beg the differ that it is not relevant to them.
They suffered major injuries -the baddest we've seen- and they last the fastest of anyone in the tournament. Given Korra's reaction to the time they lost in, it is relevant to note.
Any similarities are rendered moot when it comes to VfD as everything needs to be taken on its own. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:08, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
Korra's reaction isn't relevant to the team itself - thus not enough to warrant a page on it's own. Losing the fastest in the tournament isn't really noteworthy, someone has to take the "title". Losing in a brutal way is - somewhat - a valid point, but then again, that's just evident of the extremes the Wolfbats went to, since they did end up outright cheating in the final match - and therefore, not greatly relevant outside the fact that they ended up taking the short straw (being victims of said brutality). Sorry, but I still don't see it being enough to warrant a page. >.< Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 12:21, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
You misunderstood me: Korra's reaction is relevant to note that the quickness of the Mo Ce Lizards defeat is special and thus enough to warrant a page. It is as noteworthy as any other fact we have about things on other pages.
Together, those two points warrants the page on it's own. It remains relevant, regardless of what the Wolbats did later.
So I'm sorry, but I don't see why the page should be deleted and the points that you raised. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:28, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
This would usually be the time that I'd agree with you, but not this time. This time I'm still not convinced those two (in my opinion) minor points are enough to warrant a page. But, I guess that's what consensus is for, right? :) Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 12:33, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
You are free to do so, I'm just don't find your arguments to delete the page to have any merit and I think that you're driving the deletion spree of articles too far with this one. But yes, that's why there is a consensus needed. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:35, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
To be fair, I was not the one to post this up, therefore I'm not a hundred percent convinced. But your argument has, unfortunately, done little to sway me this time. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 12:38, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
What my problem is that when the page is in a gray-zone, like here, it is better to keep it as then it has at least some value. Why choose for deletion when you yourself agreed that there are some points to be made to keep it? Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:50, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
Because I said "somewhat valid point". I don't consider it noteworthy enough to keep the page with those points alone. Any page put up for deletion here is most, if not all, of the time in a gray-zone - it's just how much value it is worth that lets it be kept or deleted. But that is of course, most of the time (such as now), based on opinion. Thus, consensus. But you already know this. >.< Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 13:01, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
Actually, no. Most cases are straight-forward, look at all the fauna pages you put up for example. There are indeed cases where we enter a gray-zone, and when there truly is a gray-zone, perhaps it is better that we as a wiki develop the habit of keeping those pages around then instead of deleting them as we are an encyclopedia after all. I say "as a wiki", cause I have not always followed that practice either (just to say it now already before I would be quoted on an instance where I did not act as I am stating now). Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:51, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
I guess you are sort of right. I'd say it's somewhere around 60% of the pages that are put up are usually pretty unambiguous (i.e. no gray-area). After looking over the archives, there was a fair few that were in the gray-area. But... anyway...
As for your next statement, I'm not entirely sure. It seems like we are being too encyclopedic when it comes to certain pages. But that's the thing, what is too far and what isn't? As I mentioned in the Palace Woman discussion, it is hard to draw an exact line between not having a page and having one. What exactly do we base it on? Obviously it mostly comes down to just how important it is. But that's hard to judge when you can pull "importance" out of pretty much anything. I could maintain that the Palace Woman was of importance to the show as a whole, given that it was mainly a kids show and that it did need comedy in there since it wasn't all action/drama/etc. But then, are we to start listing every character that made an appearance, for joke or otherwise? I'll refer back to my statement I made within the post I mentioned - I pointed out that we don't have a page for the woman at Bosco's party who states "Ooh, the Avatar! I didn't know the Avatar would be here" after screaming. It seems odd we would separate the two. I don't see a difference between the two woman (in terms of role/importance), nor do I see the difference here. We can't really get much information on the two woman. While that alone isn't enough reasoning, I do feel that whatever information we can put down isn't all that important to warrant a page for itself. The same is said for the Mongoose Lizards, they appear for a few seconds and play as little part as the aforementioned woman does at Bosco's party. I know, it might seem like I'm going on a "deleting spree" but I'm really not. I do try to find reasons to keep pages, I don't wish pages to be deleted. The more, the better. But somewhere you do have to draw a line, but as I said, it's a difficult one to set.
Aside, I don't like the negative connotation attached to the phrase "deleting spree". Am I now to be berated for deleting a bunch of fauna pages? I would hope not. I didn't want to delete the articles, but they did feel terribly small and without a need, and people agreed. I don't think I should be singled out negatively just because I was the only one who went through and did it - I don't do things to vandalise the wikia, I try to do what I can to improve it, as I've always have tried to. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 15:39, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
No, you're definitely not the berated of anything so no need to get all defensive about it. It was a general statement, so I'm sorry if you took it personal, it was not my intention to single you out.
As far that line, you're right when saying that it is hard to draw one, that's why I mentioned that we should perhaps try to move to a more mellow way of dealing with pages. With your examples, I would even say that the party woman would even have more merit than the other palace woman. You have a point that they are both ambiguous in the gray zone, but here is the difference between the two: one was made, the other was not. Thus the gray zone has become real for one, however, the other one does not need to be made, nor should this one be deleted just based on the mere fact that there are other page that could be in the same gray zone. This page should be judged on its own, and since we are an encyclopedia and there are points to be made in favor of the page, the page could stay in the gray zone and thus be kept on the wiki. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:52, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
That's ok, I didn't think you did. But it did have a slightly negative connotation with the word "spree". I made the point though to state that I don't do things to degrade the wikia, I am trying to help. I would hope this negates any inclinations I have been showing toward deleting as many pages as possible for no reason. But, so long as we are good. :)
The party woman has just the same relevance of that of the Mongoose Lizards. They are merely there to advance the plot forward slightly. On her own, the woman is no different to that of any other party guest (except perhaps that she has a line, but then so do the two guys next to Bosco). For the team, they are no different from other teams (except the obvious exception of FF and Wolfbats - possibly rabaroos; only by them having names). I don't think we should judge pages on their own for the simple reason that we should be trying to keep things consistent and clean. Having one page with a barely any content and then not having another that has the same worth is very inconsistent, nor does it look very, for lack of a better word, professional. We should be judging the pages by the same standards, otherwise it becomes even more difficult to decide what should stay and what shouldn't.
The Mongoose Lizards don't even get a line between the three of them (groans do not count). The party woman gets an entire line to herself, why are we not comparing the two? The party woman has arguably more relevance and more importance than this team. Right, it hasn't been made, because there's no point making it when it doesn't really have much to say. If someone did make it, her scene could be expanded to the same length, if not longer, than that of the Mongoose Lizards current page, but it'd really only be adding superfluous information, as is done on the Mongoose Lizards page. I'd also point out that the first line in history is speculation. We have no idea how they formed. They could've easily had team member changes like the FF did - they may not be the original three. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 16:21, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
I really have little to no interest to start arguing a case for why this team and not the woman. The only thing I will say again is that since we're an encyclopedia, we should move away from our recent habit to delete pages that are in the gray zone and move more to a place where we keep them around. They are in a gray zone just because of the fact that there can be made a case both to delete as to keep them. In such situations, it seems smarter and more encyclopedic to keep them around. Should that mean that all such pages need to be created? No. But that does mean that we shouldn't jump any deletion guns when it comes to these gray pages. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:34, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
That would be very un-encyclopedic then. But, if you don't want to continue discussing the importance of the page then I guess we won't. It's pretty much decided with other people's votes anyway. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 17:10, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
No, that would be the exact opposite of being un-encyclopedic. Do I want to discuss things that are better for the wiki? Yes. Do I want to discuss how to get a better habit? Yes. Do I want to have a gigantic discussion for every page like this or the party woman? No. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:15, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
"Should that mean that all such pages need to be created? No." That's un-encyclopedic. If this page is worth being kept, something equally (if not slightly more so) relevant is worth being made. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 17:18, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
And now for the context of that quote: All pages should be viewed on their own. A page should not be made just because there is some other page that was in the same water that got the green light. So if someone does create such a page, we will gauge the value of that page then, but that person should not start creating those pages on the sole reasoning that this page was allowed to stay. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:21, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
That doesn't really change the fact that it is un-encyclopedic. You wanted to make the wikia more encyclopedic, that statement, regardless of context you add, is still stating the opposite of that. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 17:29, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
That changes everything, context is important no matter how much you want to dismiss is as it is the concept of the gray pages -those of which a case can be made in both directions. If those pages end up being made, great, but they should not be made based solely on the reasoning "hey, that page got to stay, so now we must make them all". If those pages are made, it has to be because someone feels that they can make page out of the given information, and not just because some other page was kept. That is what makes it encyclopedic and the difference between the train of thoughts we're having here. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:35, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
Not true. The pages can be made on the reasoning that we're being encyclopedic, the same reason this page is being kept. Not making them makes it un-encyclopedic, as we're not being consistent, or a reliable, comprehensive information source. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 17:39, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
The pages can be made on the reason that we're being encyclopedic, yes. Do all those gray pages allow for a decent page? Maybe, maybe not, hence the importance of case by case evaluation. That covers the rest of your argument as well. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:50, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, they should be judged case by case, but we shouldn't ignore the others completely. Otherwise, we aren't judging them by the same standards, of which we should be to help draw that fuzzy line a little clearer. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 17:54, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
Are we ignoring the others. Nope, not at all. They just shouldn't be made under the pretenses that another page got made and got to stay -something entirely different than ignoring them. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 18:02, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
Other cases, previous pages that were up for deletion. Not other pages-that-could-be. Sorry, bit of a misunderstanding there. >.< But, I guess you have respite for now, since it's very late here. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 18:06, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I must admit, it was a hard decision to make on the matter... When the page was first created, I had every intention to tag it for speedy deletion, but held off to see if it could be improved - as it after all had been made in good faith - though I did not hold much hope. However, per Lostris, it has just enough going for it for me to decide to keep. They were a notable semifinal team in the Championships, whose brutal defeat gave us an interesting insight to their profession; particularly the grayer areas of pro-bending conduct. All other circumstances combined, as well as the visual representation, I think it does (barely) warrant its own page. KettleMeetPotwall 12:40, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I agree with Lady Lostris and KettleMeetPot.DancePowderer Talk 14:14, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per Lostris and KMP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FireFerret (wallcontribs) 14:48, November 12, 2012 (UTC)


Keep Keep — After considering both sides, I think both Ruen and Lostris have some good points, but I agree more with Lostris in this one. --I declare Shenanigans! (talk) 18:42, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per above. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 18:50, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per Lostris and KMP. Chilary Spir-aang-c3 (1) wall 21:32, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Being a gentleman I agree with the Lady. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:44, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Liang

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Delete Delete Merge Merge —There's hardly any information on it, and he was only mentioned one time in the comic "Going Home Again". There is no visual representation, he's irrelevant to the plot line, and we can only put two sentences about him. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 19:40, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — While true that there is very little to be said about him with no way to expand, the fact that he was named and that there is no decent other way to preserve the given information warrants page to remain on the wiki from an encyclopedic point of view. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:55, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

If that were true, then why was "Ilah" delete? She was named also, and she had more information and more of a place in the plot. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 19:59, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
Ilah was deleted since the consensus was in favor of that. Besides, all the information that was on her page was mentioned on about 10 other pages, Liang's isn't. And in any case, I cannot stress this enough: pages are to be judged on their own merit. It is not because one page got deleted that all similar ones should be deleted as well or the other way around. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:05, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I agree with Lady Lostris. After all, Illah's informations can be found in the family history and on tha pages about her husband and son. After all, Liang is commander of a whole FN fleet and one of the few admirals we even know, and his informations can be found in no in-universe written article (comics are not in-universe). DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 20:21, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Merge Merge — or Keep Keep — Can we not merge this information onto the Military of the Fire Nation page, under Navy/List of known commanding officers. That would give something along the lines of:

List of known commanding officers

This would be similar to how fauna pages are merged with the main fauna page. If not, then I think keeping the page to maintain the information would be best. HAMMEROFTHOR 21:18, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

That's an option, though the military page is not formatted as such, wouldn't it then sort of break the set-up of the page by doing it like that? Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:29, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
The section above on classes of ships has a similar formatting set-up, so it isn't a major deviation. I did a preview of the page to see what it would look like if it was formatted as such, and in my opinion it looks OK. HAMMEROFTHOR 21:33, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — If it was a case of the info being repeated on at least one other page, I would have easily voted to delete. However, since this is not that case, it should remain preserved. KettleMeetPotwall 02:24, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Merge Merge — I actually think that HammerOfThor's idea is a good one. I'd think we can also do the same for the above probending team. I don't think pages should be this small, it seems a bit too much of a waste. The information is still valid though, so maybe we should try to incorporate them into other pages when we can. This would mean we still have the information, it's just so small it isn't enough to warrant a page. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 06:24, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Only being mentioned for the briefest of moments doesn't really warrant an entire page. Especially if another page exist, where it fits in perfectly. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:47, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

I think Thor's idea is rather fitting - but if we do so, we have to add minor informations to the other generals and admirals too. If we would not do that, it would look strange. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 15:13, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Although his identity is only just a mention, it is enough to give him an established relevance. We tend to judge articles on their merit from an in-universe point of view, and that said there is enough exclusive information information about him to warrant a separate page, even though it may not be much. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 22:04, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per LL. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 05:39, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Per HoT Srijay KTechFilmer 08:12, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Flora and fauna in the World of Avatar

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Delete Delete — small disambig page that serves no purpose. It is only linked on spiritual pages (Huu and Spiritual beliefs in the World of Avatar). Srijay KTechFilmer 11:29, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Even if it had more links, I still doubt the page would be of much use. The "and" in the links would negate the need of a disambiguation. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 21:57, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per above.DancePowderer Talk 22:07, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per Sparks. I declare Shenanigans! (talk) 23:00, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per Gods and Sparks. This page doesn't seem to serve any useful purpose. HAMMEROFTHOR 23:48, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per above. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 05:39, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Pointless from edge to rim. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 07:07, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Lion turtle (disambiguation)

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Delete Delete — While the page may seem useful at first, it doesn't help that there are no articles that link to it. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 21:57, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — The captions at the top of the lion turtle pages have made this disambiguation page obsolete.DancePowderer Talk 22:04, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I don't see any real need for a disambig page with only two articles. Providing a direct link to the other related page where necessary is more practical and useful. HAMMEROFTHOR 23:48, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — per all. I went on this page too when clicking the "random page" button and wondered why it was there when there were only two pages on it. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 00:59, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per chakra. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 05:39, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per AcerEvan. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 07:08, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Bending triads (disambiguation)

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Delete Delete — Really small and can be covered in captions at the top of a page Srijay KTechFilmer 07:56, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — LL has a point in this vote. Srijay KTechFilmer

Delete Delete I'm not a huge fan of DAB pages. It seems like it's much easier and more direct to link the pages at the top. This, of course, doesn't apply to the pages with lots of them, but I don't think there's anything on this wikia that needs them. Even the character pages like Aang could easily have the links at the top since it's not that intrusive imo. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 07:58, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Well actually didn't consider that. So I guess it should be kept. I just don't like the idea of linking to them from pages such as Aang when it seems perfectly fine to link directly to the pages in question. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 08:31, November 14, 2012 (UTC)
Ah yes, perfectly understandable, though that's usually not the purpose of said pages. It can be done when Aang opposed all the triads at once for example, but usually the purpose of said pages lie in the navigational department. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:33, November 14, 2012 (UTC)
I assume you mean Korra? :P But yeah. I mainly mean at the top of the pages. Like linking to Aang in video games/movie/pilot. Seems easier and better to be more direct. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 08:43, November 14, 2012 (UTC)
It was a hypothetic example, so let's say Roku faced them ;-) Well, that depends on how many options there are. Take Omashu (disambiguation) for example. It is easier and cleaner to link to that page as opposed to every option on its own. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:13, November 14, 2012 (UTC)
Haha, ok. :P And yeah, that would be one of those cases it is better. "This, of course, doesn't apply to the pages with lots of them" I haven't seen all the DAB pages, so I'd wager there's more that are better that way. Just seems better that, if we can do it, we should. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 09:16, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Yes, it can be seen on the top of pages, however, when someone doesn't know how the bending triads are named -or how we have named the page on the wiki- and they just type in "bending triads", that disambiguation page is the first thing they'll see, and it can aid them to get to the actual page they wanted. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:26, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — The "Fauna and Flora" page was deleted because it contains nothing except disambiguation to the two-now-separated pages. But for the disambiguation, it encyclopedic and handy as LL said. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 11:59, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — This disambition page actually serves a purpose. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:45, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per above. ~KinHikari 20:10, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Blue Spirit (disambiguation)

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Delete Delete — Only two links. Just like the rest Srijay KTechFilmer 08:03, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — It's handy for navigational purposes. Mostly, disambiguation pages aren't linked anywhere, but they show up when people just type in a certain word. These pages aid them then by giving an overview of pages that have a relation to the word they gave in. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:26, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping pages like this around per Lostris. I think that, in general, people are too eager now to delete pages. The 888th Avatar (talk) 09:04, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — The "Fauna and Flora" page was deleted because it contains nothing except disambiguation to the two-now-separated pages. But for the disambiguation, it encyclopedic and handy as LL said. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 11:59, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — As per others, I say that we keep this page. There isn't anything wrong with it, and there are some pages that link to that disambugation page, so I honestly think we need to keep it. 888- well noted point there; I agree. WaterbenderTaikai (Marionette · Parentless) 17:38, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Disambiguation pages are handy and useful, even if there are only two links. O.W.L.Ty Lee Sprite Normal Outfit(My Wall)


Keep Keep — This page helps seperating the episode from the individual with the same name. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:48, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per above. ~KinHikari 20:06, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Lightning (disambiguation)

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Delete Delete — Like the rest. Only two links Srijay KTechFilmer 08:06, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Again, handy for navigational purposes for those who do not know the exact titles of some pages. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:26, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping pages like this around per Lostris. I think that, in general, people are too eager now to delete pages. The 888th Avatar (talk) 09:04, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — The "Fauna and Flora" page was deleted because it contains nothing except disambiguation to the two-now-separated pages. But for the disambiguation, it encyclopedic and handy as LL said. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 11:59, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Disambiguation pages are handy and useful, even if there are only two links. O.W.L.Ty Lee Sprite Normal Outfit(My Wall)

Keep Keep — Leads to two completely different pages with similar name as well as other pages on the subject. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:49, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Back in the days when ATLA was being aired for the first times and saw Iroh redirecting lighting and Azula generating one, I thought it was ligthingbending. I'm sure that many other users made that mistake. That's why I think this one should be kept, it's really handy for new users that aren't into the concepts. I declare Shenanigans! (talk) 15:05, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per above. ~KinHikari 20:03, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I do not see a strong reason for it to be deleted.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  21:15, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Warden (disambiguation)

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Delete Delete — Like the rest. Only three links. Srijay KTechFilmer 08:10, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Handy for navigational purposes. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:26, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping pages like this around per Lostris. I think that, in general, people are too eager now to delete pages. The 888th Avatar (talk) 09:04, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — The "Fauna and Flora" page was deleted because it contains nothing except disambiguation to the two-now-separated pages. But for the disambiguation, it encyclopedic and handy as LL said. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 11:59, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Disambiguation pages are handy and useful, even if there were only two links, and this one has three. O.W.L.Ty Lee Sprite Normal Outfit(My Wall) 04:02, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Characters would be otherwise hard to find. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:50, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per above. ~KinHikari 19:57, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Polar bear dog (disambiguation)

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Delete Delete — The title only refers to Naga. A Polar Dog is NOT a Polar Bear Dog. Srijay KTechFilmer 08:31, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Handy for navigational purposes. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:31, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping pages like this around per Lostris. I think that, in general, people are too eager now to delete pages. The 888th Avatar (talk) 09:04, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — The "Fauna and Flora" page was deleted because it contains nothing except disambiguation to the two-now-separated pages. But for the disambiguation, it encyclopedic and handy as LL said. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 11:59, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — This one seems useless to me. Polar bears and polar dogs should not be relevant when specifically looking for "polar bear dog". Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:53, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Couldn't we just put a sentence at the top of each article to do that? this only links to three pages, we could add that and I don't think it would look bad. I declare Shenanigans! (talk) 14:58, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

But can you see that the page has three links to three different animals that perhaps, people think "they're same"? Check it again. ;) Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 15:12, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per above. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 19:42, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Also per above. ~KinHikari 19:55, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Top-knot

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Delete Delete — This page, along with hair- loopies, is summarized on the Fashion in the world of Avatar page. I do not feel that it warrants its own page. I tells you what it is and who wore one. I feel it is a pointless page. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 04:59, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — This page has a fair amount of description, however like others it also has elongated sections describing people who wore them, and some times what they did with them. Some of that is still relevant though, to show the significance, but even that aside, I still think this page should be kept. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 06:01, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Enough description and because it is well know makes it substantial enough to keep it. Srijay KTechFilmer 06:03, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Information presented and general content warrant a page. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 07:56, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Top-knots and hair loopies are relevant and significant. I don't see any reason to delete either of them. I also do not see how they are pointless articles either. There is enough information to warrant pages and they are both significant to the series. WaterbenderTaikai (Marionette · Parentless) 02:19, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per Ruen and Godsrule and Yu Yan Archer and TaikaiChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:54, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — As I stated in hair loopies; the top-knot is appeared commonly for Avatar-verse people. No need to delete it. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 12:44, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per my reasoning in the hair loopies section. Annawantimes (Talk) 01:39, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hair loopies

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Delete Delete — This page is summarized on the Fashion in the world of Avatar page and it basically tells you what they are and who wore them. I feel this page is pointless and clutters up the wiki. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 04:59, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — This page has a good description, however the history section is mostly just a description of times when people appeared sporting them (or close to). The only exception and noteworthy fact is perhaps stating that hair loopies were a continued fashion even after the HYW (evidenced by Yakone's wife). Though if this is to be deleted, whats the difference between this and Warrior's wolf tail? Not much really. I don't think either should be deleted though. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 06:01, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Enough description and because it is well know makes it substantial enough to keep it. Srijay KTechFilmer 06:03, November 17, 2012 (UTC)


Keep Keep — Information presented and general content warrant a page. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 07:57, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Same as my vote to keep top-knots. Hair loopies are significant to the series and are important. I don't see how they are pointless articles or how they clutter. There is also enough information to warrant a page. Also, per Ruen, the hair loopies are a continued fashion as they have been traditional and commonly used throughout the Water Tribe people for a long time. WaterbenderTaikai (Marionette · Parentless) 02:23, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per all, it has a legitimate amount of information. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 03:02, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Hair loopies are a very common hairstyle in the Water Tribe that are worn by a good majority of the women there. There is significant information on the page, so I do not see a good reason to delete it. Annawantimes (Talk) 16:49, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — It has important information, per all. Chilary Spir-aang-c3 (1) wall 23:45, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Almost all of Water Tribe women are using hair loopies, per Annawan. And it has not a bad content, I can't vote for delete. It has its place here. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 12:44, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Category:Dragons

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Delete Delete — This page only contains five articles, and is the only species we have a category for. There are no pages for Flying bison, badger moles, etc., and we probably have more information on those species anyways. The wiki is not being benefited much by the existence of this category, so why keep it? Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 02:38, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — This category falls in a gray area, and I probably would have voted delete on any of the examples you used, but dragons are a bit different from other fauna. The species is regarded as more than just another animal from an in-universe perspective. They have a special position in Fire Nation culture and society, being worshiped by the Sun Warriors and used for transportation by an Avatar and a Fire Lord. What really warrants this category, however, is that there are also dragons that are not like this. We know that certain dragons are aggressive and hostile, like the green dragon, and not tamed. It is this distinction between different dragons that justifies this page, because the category serves to bring together and organize all the different types of dragons. That would be different from flying bison, since they are all identical and the Air Nomad category is so small that they can just be tacked on (the Fire Nation category, on the other hand, is huge and diverse). Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 03:40, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

It's also pretty clear that the Air Nomads worshipped the Flying Bison, and the SWT worships the moon. Perhaps if the Air Nomads were still alive the Sky Bison would be to their culture in a similar way as dragons were to the Fire Nation. Just because dragons differ in appearance it doesn't mean that they need to have their own page. Again, there's only five articles in the category, and only four of which are even characters. It's pretty obvious by looking at any of those that they are all dragons, even if somebody has not seen the episode, just by looking at the picture you can tell. Many other species have been shown to be both tame and wild, varying in types. I don't see what the difference in size of the FN and AN categories compared to this one matters. Hardly anybody looking for information actually goes through the pages, the categories are like a neat way of adding on extra information about the page, so what does it matter about the size of the other categories?
The fact is; the category does not matter that much. It doesn't give extra information that somebody wouldn't already know, or provide a link to where somebody could go looking for similar information as they'd probably wind up finding the other pages anyways. If it does no good for the wiki, why keep it? Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 03:54, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
That's factually inaccurate: neither of those were actually worshiped. But back to the point - I wasn't referring to the appearance of the dragons. It's their presence across a multitude of different aspects of Fire Nation society and the diversity of that presence that distinguishes them from sky bison. Sky bison all have one purpose and it is this that makes adding a category for it pointless, as there is no need for any organization.
The way you judge categories doesn't seem to comply with existing ones. The number of pages in a category is not a justification for deletion; there are ones with as few as two. Furthermore, no categories ever matter much in retrospect, since they are just a way of organizing different articles and creating or emphasizing distinctions. As has been explained before, there is a very clear distinction between dragons and other types of fauna, and that is essentially all that a category needs in order to be kept. This is a standard that has been followed for a long time, and there is no need for it to break here.
As a side note, I'd like to point out that the Fire Nation category is indeed larger than that of the Air Nomads. Much larger. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 04:54, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
How was the moon or sky bison not worshipped? The sky bison was present all over the air temples, there were pictures of them, a fountain, just because they weren't literally bowing down to them all of the time does not mean not worshipped. The moon was definitely worshipped. They had the spirits sealed away in a sacred part of the tribe, and the WT soldiers bowed down when La passed by.
Yes, the categories exist to organize things but not to the extent of down to exact detail. We don't have categories for for fighters, non-fighters, for non-benders, for parents, etc. The point is categories split off things into different groups, but they aren't needed for small things. And what categories only hold two articles? I know of no such categories.
I still see no distinction between dragons and other fauna. Yes, they were worshipped and had multiple uses. So? Komodo rhinos has multiple uses. They were meat, you could ride on them, etc. Yes they were worshipped, but that really has nothing to do with why a category should exist. Take parents for an example, we have quite a lot of them, they make a difference, but it's not really necessary to categorize them as such. It'd just be a useless category that we don't really need. The same goes for categorizing dragons. It's not really necessary.
Again, I don't see size of categories as being that big of an issue. So what if the Air Nomads have more articles than the Fire Nation? It doesn't mean we need to start being more specific in the Fire Nation than with Air Nomads stuff, that would just be a waste. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 05:08, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Those examples are far too generalized. We do not have categories for those because the topic is far too broad, which means we would have to replace the more conventional system of categorizing characters through nationality. However, I fail to see how that comparison is relevant to this, because it contradicts your point that the dragon category is not broad enough to exist. For my example on why it should exist, I will use the elder category in Air Nomads. It is similar to the dragon category, both having just five articles and being relatively obscure in scope of the larger category. What warrants its existence is that elders have a distinction in political power when compared to regular monks, just as dragons have a distinction in Fire Nation culture.

I believe the category "Battles in the Air Temples" has only two articles. It has been put up for deletion in the past, but has not gone through on the grounds that it is helpful for organization, the exact reason I am using to justify the existence of this category.

Komodo rhinos are laughably insignificant. Unlike dragons, they are irrelevant to the series' plot line and can be dismissed because their appearances are so brief and minor. That comparison does not apply here.

We are not being more specific about the Fire Nation by keeping a category for dragons; we are only staying organized. The Fire Nation category needs greater organization due to its sheer size and diversity of information, something the Air Nomads lack which therefore negates the existence of a sky bison category. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 05:48, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Arguably, the Flying Bison is much bigger in the show than dragons were - but in now way are they less important than dragons. For example, Appa was in most episodes of A:TLA. Oogi is bound to be in more episodes of LoK, and we had a couple flashbacks that included Flying Bison prior to the HYW. They were worshiped, just not in the same way. I have to agree with FireFerret here. They may not have been bowing down to them, ala Sun Warriors, but they respected them highly, having paintings and such. Not only that, but the Air Nomads got a sky bison for life, that's saying a lot. Especially when I'm sure the connection between all Air Nomads and their bisons would be a meaningful one. Perhaps not the same Aang's who was fun loving and that was shown during his time with Appa, but I'm sure that if Tenzin lost Oogi like Aang lost Appa, he'd be pretty distraught. That says a lot about how much they do respect these creatures. Saying the flying bison have no distinction relative to elder monks and dragons is flat out wrong.
As for Dragons, the Fire Nation kind of, you know...wiped them out. That's not respect or worship. Discounting the Sun Warriors, the Fire Nation basically just thought they were the ultimate sport. I don't see anything wrong with categorising dragons, nor do I see anything wrong with categorising flying bison - this would include pages like - Appa, Oogi, Appa's mother, and sky bison. The badgermoles get nothing, and the "Moon" is kind of...well... not exactly a creature, per se. The Moon Spirit and Ocean Spirit would only really go under the category for spirits, which they do. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 06:15, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
On the matter of dragon worship, I was only specifically referring to the Sun Warriors. Still, I see what you mean about sky bison, though I never really cared if that category was created; I was just using it as an example. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 17:02, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — The page helps in differenciating the individual dragons we know of. For other animals there aren't as many namely examples. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 07:58, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — We have more than three page referred to dragons, this page help us to find it more easily, so my vote is definitely a big keep. I declare Shenanigans! (talk) 19:32, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

We have more than three pages referring to a lot of categories that we don't have. IE: Flying Bison, where we have Appa's mother, Appa, Oogi, the page itself. We also have a category for the Air Nomad battles, which only have two. What should the amount of pages in a category matter? It should be more focused on consistency, and we don't have pages for any other specific type of fauna. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 21:44, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — The category really comes in handy for us to see, or looking for dragons. Especially when we're forget which dragon is the dragon that we refer to. Sorry for the grammatical errors. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 12:44, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Spider rat

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Delete Delete — I'm not sure why this wasn't suggested before because the information on there is that it's a cross between a spider and a rat, and that it is considered a pest. That can be put on the fauna page. It was mentioned only. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:56, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Actually this was put up before, but it passed through. I think we should keep it because we do have some information on it, we have an anatomy plus a minimal amount of information like the environment it lives in, and that its considered a pest.

I looked through all the archives, Spider rat was never suggested...unless it wasn't in the archives? ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 04:51, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
It wasn't done during my sweep. @FireFerret - Umm, where exactly did you get the anatomy from? They only have 4 legs on the clothing. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 04:57, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

EDIT: Neutral Neutral — Per below. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 05:15, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

EDIT: (And edit conflict) Ok, I reviewed it again. The frame I was studying when I wrote that in somewhat blobbish and made it look like there was eight legs. However after pausing it carefully I can see that there's four now. However; while there's four they are clearly spider legs and not rat legs so… it is still something, but I suppose it isn't much. However, seeing as they bothered to design a logo, it's possible that the creatures may reappear. Then again, it's just as possible that they may not so… I'll go ahead and change my vote to a neutral. And yes, the logos were blurry so… that's why I got messed up :P Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 05:15, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
Unless you're looking at the blob on the canister he is holding up...In which case that looks like 6 (maybe a 7th at the back) lines pointed out from a blob of blackness. :P Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 05:07, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per Chakra. About as much info as Sea Vulture. Srijay KTechFilmer 04:48, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Not quite, we have an anatomy section. While we haven't actually seen one, we know what it looks like, which is different than the vulture. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 04:50, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — It's mentioned in both the film The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra, which you can't put on the fauna page. GhostUser (wallcontribs) 05:03, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Well you don't really need to...I'm quite sure because on the run a few weeks ago when we deleted all those pages for being "mentioned" and "not having enough information", those don't have sources in the fauna page. That's why we have references ^_^ ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 05:25, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — The creature being only mentioned in any number of shows doesn't really warrant a page, by my reckoning. Simple fact is that the amount of information is too litle. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:48, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — We don't have any significant information, image, and anything we ned to add except the information based on the page now. Waiting for Book 2? I don't think so... Book 2 will more focus on Water Tribe and ancient places, and I can't sure we will meet this creature. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 12:44, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Unlike other fauna articles which have recently been deleted, this one at least has some amount of useful information besides merely what can be assumed from an irrelevant mention. We know bits of info on its anatomy, habitat, how their numbers are managed, etc. That is far more than we had for other articles, and gives the spider rat enough of a distinction to have its own page. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 0:05, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

The Complete Book 2 Collection (Collector's Edition)

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Delete Delete — There is no evidence that this DVD set is even being considered for creation, let alone a release that is simply "TBA". Therefore, the basis for this article is speculative altogether, so the page cannot be kept on a wiki that presents only facts. Krazykid51 03:45, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I think it is safe to say at this point that this will not be a real thing. Even if, the page lists nothing more than the episode names. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:39, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — True, it is speculation, but I think there's still a chance it might be, considering Book 1 was released. Unless, they've basically abandoned the original show. >.< But it can be remade if and when it is confirmed. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 06:44, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — It is stated as "expected", and the story has ended years ago, with nothing "Collector's edition" for DVD. I don't see why we need to keep that page, moreover the speculation as Ruen stated. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 09:02, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

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Delete Delete — There is no evidence that this DVD set is even being considered for creation, let alone a release that is simply "TBA". Therefore, the basis for this article is speculative altogether, so the page cannot be kept on a wiki that presents only facts. Krazykid51 03:45, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — See above. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:40, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — True, it is speculation, but I think there's still a chance it might be, considering Book 1 was released. Unless, they've basically abandoned the original show. >.< But it can be remade if and when it is confirmed. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 06:44, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — It is stated as "expected", and the story has ended years ago, with nothing "Collector's edition" for DVD. I don't see why we need to keep that page, moreover the speculation as Ruen stated. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 09:02, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

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Delete Delete — I found this page by pure accident while browsing the new listings. I contend that there is very little relevant content to justify it having its own page, as most of the content can be summed up in just one line on the fauna listings page (which I have already disingenuously added!). It is already mentioned on the Sokka's weapons page. Trivia points are generally unimportant, and can be moved to other pages if it is entirely necessary to keep them. No picture either, and only ever mentioned once in the Avatar: The Last Airbender—The Art of the Animated Series. I believe on this basis, it does not warrant a page of its own. KettleMeetPotwall 00:19, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I agree. The page has little on it to warrant a page. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 01:52, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per KMP, it can be summed up on the fauna page ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 05:53, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — per the above. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 06:29, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per all of the already mentioned, I guess. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:42, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Ofc, what must I say other than Delete Delete It!Srijay KTechFilmer 17:16, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I agree with everyone as well. Pretty obvious there. TheLoKnessmonster Sokka-sprite 22:01, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per everyone who support to delete it. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 04:20, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Agreed, as per above. ~KinHikari 04:23, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per above.Appa-dobs1HenryJh 98 (BlogsFOTHParallel)Appa Sprite 23:28, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

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Delete Delete — I don't feel this hat had any particular points of interest that deserves giving it an article. First off, Aang wore at least two other hats, and neither of those had another mention either. This piece was only worn briefly, and had no value in the over all plot-line. There were other items, like the umbrella from the fortuneteller, that appeared just as frequently than this hat, and there are many more items that had more value to the plot-line overall. Basically, this page holds no value, and doesn't provide many interesting facts or tidbits on it either. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 04:53, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Unneeded, per FireFerret. There's no need for this as it's basically just pointing out that he wore a hat to hide his tattoos, something he did frequently, especially during S3. That's not enough to warrant a page. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 04:59, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — 'Nuff said. about as bad as Xu/Dock/Bushi's hat that aang wore. Srijay KTechFilmer 05:00, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Really unneeded. Another outfits that Aang wore in the series don't have any page. Per ATFF. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 09:19, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Unneeded because of all the given reasons, and also there's some speculation at the end. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:19, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

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Delete Delete — Even with some expansion from what it is now, there is not enough that we can say about The Flameos to be able to create a reasonably sized article. HAMMEROFTHOR 21:08, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — there's only one sentence on it, not really that much to warrant a page. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 21:19, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Edit: Keep Keep — I don't think I thought that one through, keep per everyone else. It's been expanded and it's fine now. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 03:18, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I'm new here, and I'm the creator of the article, so strike my vote if I'm not eligible, but I have never come across a wiki where something didn't get an article simply because there was little information on it. The Flameos exist. They are in the Avatar universe. How is that not reason enough to have an article? I was told there would be lots of small pages with little info on them. So? How does that hurt anything? Deleting articles because of size does a lot to hinder productivity and comprehensiveness. MasterFredWater Tribe emblem(Whatever) 21:29, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'm pretty neutral on the deletion of this page, it isn't completely necessary, but then again we do have pages like the Fire Ferrets cosplayers. However, I'd just like to make a note that I expanded the article, so if size is the big issue I have bumped it up to the size of some of our other articles. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 21:35, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
Even though I vote keep now, I just want to say that just because something existed in the Avatar world doesn't always or necessarily mean that it warrants a page. But in this case, that is enough. There is no line really to whether something deserves a page or not. So you could say that a random rock exists in the Avatar world, but that random rock doesn't have a page. Often people who have only one line in the show, even if they "existed", they don't have a page. But other than that, you present a good argument. And welcome to the wikia ^_^ ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 03:18, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
Hmmm, perhaps I worded that wrong. lol Not everything should get an article. Only things that stand out. However, if they are specifically named, such as the case is here, I believe they should get an article. And thanks for replying, voting, blah. :P And thanks for the welcome. Glad to be here. MasterFredWater Tribe emblem(Whatever) 04:18, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — The page has been expanded on and is of decent length and quality to be able to stay. Even some more information about the instruments they play could still be added. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:52, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Seems I underestimated how much information could be added, and thus whether a reasonably sized article could be created. As it is, there is enough for it to stay. HAMMEROFTHOR 21:59, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I agree. There are enough informations to keep the article. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 22:11, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — big enough. Srijay KTechFilmer 12:38, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — It stood out like a sore thumb on the music page, since it was the only band there. As people have already said, it's big enough to stay.DancePowderer Talk 16:56, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Kirachu Island

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Delete Delete — When clicking on the "random page" button, trying to find something to do, I happened across this page. Personally, it needs to be deleted. It is only a minute detail, and holds no importance to the story of the comic, "The Bridge". Thoughts? -  Wings wallcontribs 19:27, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — While the article is minute, there is sufficient information on it. We have many articles of similar size or even smaller, so it wouldn't make much sense to single this one out. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 21:52, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — The article is incredibly short, and has nothing on it more than "it was an island and had good soufflé". That's not much information at all, and holds no significance to the Avatar World. I do think that its existence should at least be noted somewhere, though, because other than this page there is no note of it. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 01:29, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I disagree with the whole "small means unworthy" sentiment. It is named and distinct. There isn't much we know about it, but in any other encyclopedia, that wouldn't make a difference. I would understand if it wasn't named, but the creators gave it an identity, and so it should get an article. MasterFredWater Tribe emblem(Whatever) 04:16, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — If we had just a small amount of additional information, for example its location or an image, it would be fine to keep it. Like this it's nothing more than a name and a random piece of knowledge. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:51, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I had also seen this article previously while clicking on the random page button. But I disagree with deleting it because first, it was named and the information can't be put anywhere else. For encyclopedic purposes, it deserves to be there because it has legitimate information. Size doesn't matter that much unless the size is only one sentence that can be put somewhere else. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 00:14, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hm, I suppose the information wouldn't fit very well on any other page. Maybe we could have a page for all locations in the Avatar World it would go on? *shrugs* Though that would be a lot of work just to appease something so small… Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 00:38, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
I, for one, think that would be a good way of going about it. Rather having all the little things in one place than having them scattered around like this. An entire page for something that can do with just a sinle paragraph seems over-the-top to me. Minor locations in the world of Avatar or some name comes to mind. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 06:57, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
I, for two, agree with the above. Godsrule - Talk to me! 07:00, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
Are you all referring to a place like this: geography of the World of Avatar? Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:23, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
We should put Kirachu Island under the Fire Nation section, and say something like, "It is known for I forgot what the meal is called." -  Wings wallcontribs 19:28, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
It's already mentioned there. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:30, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
I thoroughly disagree with taking all these small topics and throwing them onto a list page. That is very unencyclopedic. Not to mention this island is named by the creators, and therefore it has greater notability than other nameless topics. And honestly, that geography article would be best as a section on the Fire Nation article under "Geography." MasterFredWater Tribe emblem(Whatever) 19:40, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
The geography page and any other page like that are deliberately split from relating articles as Fire Nation or Earth Kingdom, as combining them would make that page way too long, which is a standard that we attempt to avoid on this wiki. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:44, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hm, after giving it some thought I've decided to change my vote to neutral, because although it is mentioned on the page, it barely says anything on it. So for now, I would like the information to be placed somewhere (like the thing on soufflés). If a solution is found, I'll go back to delete, though.Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 04:19, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

I too have changed my opinion for now. I still think the page has too little information to merit a presence like this. However, the only viable piece of information which isn't presented on the more apropriate one-sentence-paragraph on geography of the World of Avatar, being the moment when the island is brought to attention, is only found on this page. Thus I withhold my vote until further notice. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 07:06, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per above. G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! 09:15, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — The Geography in the World of Avatar mentions the only two worthwhile points; that being its name and what it is known for (the food). It does actually present where it is mentioned via the citation, just perhaps not the context (which isn't really important for the island itself apart from what is already mentioned in the sentence). So with that said, delete. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 09:21, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Avatar Wiki:IRC Hall of Fame

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Delete Delete — Must I say anything. Nobody even uses this. G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! 06:54, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — (Sighs) I solemnly promise that this will be the first, last and only time I ever use this in argument on here;

C'mon. C'mon. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 07:27, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I agree with ARG. Think of it like preserving community culture, since Avatar Wiki also keeps in mind that the people are just as important as the articles they work. Plus, there may be new additions! KettleMeetPotwall 05:14, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I concur with Kettle on this. It is a valuable institution even if it hasn't been used in a while. Good things occasionally return. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 07:28, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

I don't exactly have an opinion on this as I don't think I visit the IRC enough anymore to really make a decision on such a small detail of it. However, if notability is the problem, which it most certainly is as for my year-and-a-half here I had no idea the page existed, why not put a link to it on the IRC access page? That way, people will notice it more and be more likely to copy some interesting conversation immediately and then open a new tab quickly to put it into the "Hall of Fame"? Normally I would have done this immediately upon discovering the page, but considering it's up for deletion, I decided I'd propose it first. Krazykid51 17:28, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Why not? This is a fun little page where we can look back on all of the good moments we've had on the Iar Sea. I see no reason to delete it. This is Slash, mission complete! 00:41, December 21, 2012 (UTC)Suki SpriteTenzin-chao1

Slang in the World of Avatar

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Delete Delete — The page is very dry of information, and could not be expanded much further since we know next to nothing about the language of the Avatarverse and even less about slang. Its grand total of four listings is already explained and elaborated on all relevant pages, which makes the article pointless since it is so short. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 23:07, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — To be honest, I don't see the relevance of it. It doesn't provide informational context, nor does it seem to show any interest to people. I'd go with deleting it.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  23:48, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Slang is an important part of Avatarverse culture, particularly to the younger generation and during Avatar it gives us tons of laughs (who didn't enjoy the fire nations faces at Aangs outdated slang?). It's been overlooked a lot because no one has yet bothered to correlate all of the slang and I think we should keep it. Also despite the points you make the page follows the Avatar wiki guidelines. Kate Winters (wallcontribs) 11:48, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — It's actually a rather amusing page and it can give some extra information about the usage of language in the World of Avatar. Just as we have documented the writing over nearly every advertisement sign, why not document the spoken language as well? Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:14, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

It is much more comprehensive now thanks to the expansion, though I'm still not sure if it would be enough. While the page isn't too short anymore, it's still a bit dry, and all the information can be found in relevant articles. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 20:50, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
The page is rather short, but not too short to warrant instant deletion. And the information can only be partially found on pages. The words themselves can be found, though not an extensive explanation about their true meanings. To me, that's the purpose of that page. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 01:26, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Very dry and unappealing/amusing. Also it is not linked to on any page in the wiki. G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! 21:02, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

The "not linked" is a very unsubstantial argument as that can be explained very easily due to the fact that it's a new age and thus takes a while to have its links -since this was a point, I added some links to the page. There are instances where the slang is used, so due to this page, they can now be linked and their specific meaning grouped together. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 01:25, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
Still being expanded guys. It takes a while to get a really detailed page but let's face it, there IS a lot of slang on Avatar, even if it doesn't fall under the typical definition. It needs a little time to come together, after all there is nothing exactly like this on the wiki and most of the info has to be gathered manually. Kate Winters (wallcontribs) 11:16, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
I concur. We seem to be moving too much to a habit of deleting a new page instead of giving it a proper chance to grow. The current information on it is already more than enough to warrant its stay and the longer we keep it around, the more information will likely be added. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:22, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
Merge Merge —/Keep Keep — For Now I am changing my vote to Merge/Keep. Merge to a new Languange in the World of Avatar covering Language or just simply Keep it ;) G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! 14:19, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
Why rename is to "language"? That's too broad of a scope for the article, since it only focused on slang. Though we could rename it and than also add sayings to the page. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:34, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
Exactly my point. Make it about sayings, language, if possible how the accent changes from place to place. currently Slang is a very generalized term. G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! 16:32, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

We could always do both. Create a spoken language in the world of avatar page (with a section on slang) and keep the slang page. Like music/ songs in the world of avatar. Kate Winters (wallcontribs) 22:15, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hing Wa Island

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Merge Merge —/Delete Delete — This can be summed up on the Geography of the World of Avatar. It already is basically. The only notable thing about the island that we know about is that it has ash bananas and is in the Fire Nation, which, again, is already noted on the "Geography of the World of Avatar" page. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 04:16, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — While it does have a summary on the geography page, we're missing that extra note about the merchant in Hama's village. It could simply be added, but to me the detail suggests the island has enough significance for a separate article, even if it is rather minor. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 20:42, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Delete — per Kirachu Island. G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! 20:49, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Previously I voted delete on an article similar to this one, but after going through a lot of pages, I have discovered that a lot of our location articles are based on mention-only basis. I don't think that we should go on another deletion spree, and these are all notable from an in-universe POV. So, I think we should keep them. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 23:25, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Blue Spirit (disambiguation)

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Delete Delete — The page contains no information, and could not be expanded much further also is useless. ZukoTheViper12007AvatarNo1Fan

Delete Delete — Um well, it's a disambig page, so it won't really contain any information, ever, and they can't usually be expanded on… anyways I'll vote for delete because it is not very likely that somebody will be looking for Zuko when they type in "The Blue Spirit", and even if they were and they wind up on the episode page, there is a message on top that could redirect them to Zuko. Also, another note, Toph does not have a disamgbig page for her identity as the blind bandit. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 19:23, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — For the navigational purposed that it brings to the wiki as further expanded on last time this was brought up. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:35, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I do recall this was already suggested, and the consensus voted to keep for good reasons (As shown by Lady Lostris in the link). ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:19, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per the reasoning provided in the last discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:20, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Per Chakrasandwich. Yu Yan Archer (Talk) 09:52, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Lady Lostris said this was brought up before one month and the wiki deside to keep this, so I am changing my vote. ZukoTheViper12007AvatarNo1Fan02:32, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Mark of the Brave, Mark of the Trusted, and Mark of the Wise

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Merge Merge — These articles are all relatively short, and cover very similar topics. I propose that we merge them all into one article called "Water Tribe markings". They content, and I feel that it would be less repetitive and simpler if we condensed all of these into one article, each having separate sections about each of the markings. Thoughts? Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 23:38, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — I agree. Each page is relatively short and it makes sense to combine them as "Water Tribe markings" or something along those lines. All three markings are basically the same, just different types that a coming-of-age warrior can receive. The lucky mango 01:09, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Per Mango and ATFF. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 03:31, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep — The pages are alike, but they are significantly different on themselves to be kept around. Each history section, though retelling the same event, is focused differently on the character that received the respective marking the page is about. If we were to combine all that, it will get rather messy and/or lose some of its clear clarity it has now. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:07, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

I suppose you have a point, but maybe instead we could have different sections on how each of the three marks were earned by Aang, Sokka or Katara. IMO it just seems redundant to have three different articles on similar markings given as a result of the same event. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 07:55, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
Not really, cause that way you're going to merge the pages and then have the mandatory make different sections to preserve the images, thus having to use the clear template to make it possible -though I never really likes how that looked when used on the left next to a short paragraph. If you merge the pages, a lot of the information will just be duplicate as it is very annoying to constantly read the same event over and over again -even with minor adjustments. You don't have that annoyance when the pages remain separated as you then at least have some time between reading the sections due to loading the new page. The result of the event was the same, but the way of getting it was similar, though not the same, and I just feel like it would become too much of a drag if you combine that on the same page as then the similarities in the history section that are now tolerable will then just become boring to read and have a sort of "I just read this, why is it here again?" feeling to it. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:01, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Keep Keep Per Lostris. The page length is fine - there's shorter ones that are kept too, and I have to agree with Lady Lostris' main point in that combining them would be pretty awkward and look poorly done in comparison. It does seem like a nice idea, but when you stop to think about how it'd look, not so much. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 01:29, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Well, after re-reading through the articles, the articles are actually quite similar. There is a couple of sentences at the end specifying what Aang/Katara/Sokka did, and why they earned their mark. For Aang's there's a little bit more about his reaction after receiving the mark, but that is about it. I can be somewhat bad at explaining things, so I put what my idea was in a sandbox article here. I took the basic summary from each of them and rewrote it a tad to sound more general, and put that in a history section, then gave each marking its own section. I also added in a bit about the war marking given to soldiers in the NWT, because I felt that was equally as important as these. This is just an example of what I was thinking, and it can be revised or edited based on is necessary, is not necessary, should/should not be added, etc. I think it works rather well and does not leave out or repeat excess information. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 03:46, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Hmm, alright. With the addition of the war markings I'm more on the fence now, probably still leaning toward a keep though. Two concerns; one - the paragraphs for each type of marking are basically history on how it was received by the specific person, not necessarily on the marking itself. This is however since we don't have much else besides how it is received but it looks a bit better imo on its own page. Two, while the addition of war markings is nice, the images still look a little out of place when compared to the separate pages we have currently. While it is better than first envisioned, as I said, I'm only on the fence now, but if it comes to voting, it'd be more counted towards a keep for now. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 03:56, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — I rather prefer the idea of "Water Tribe markings" as per Fire Ferret's sandbox page. It even stands for the ability to add in the war markings received in season one's finale, while not being overly repetitive. It's straight to the point and explains why each of the three received what they did. I'd like to note however that the argument of the page's lengths is highly irrelevant and inaccurate, but the reasoning behind it is sound. Vulmen (talkEoK) 04:02, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Just to clarify, by "relatively short", I didn't mean too short to exist, I just meant short enough that having these three pages merged would not create a huge article :) Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 04:17, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — per Vulmen. G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! 19:20, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Per Vulmen. Chilary Spir-aang-c3 (1) wall 22:29, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Air Nomad statues

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Merge Merge — With Air temple or each of the respective articles that the statues belong to. The statues are not particularly noteworthy, excluding the fact that they are of known figures. I think it would be simpler to put them elsewhere, and make a point of them, as the article right now is not particularly informative other than stating that they existed. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 02:23, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — With air temple; this could be part of a new section that details recurring architectural features and designs in the temples. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 02:57, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — I think that the first paragraph should be put with Air Temple, then each statue put with their respective articles. But I'm still a bit undecided because the article is informative in my opinion, and I feel merging would take away some of the details. And also, if we added every statue to the respective articles, it would only be about one sentence for each statue.ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 19:52, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Currently in the article, there is about half of one sentence for each statue. I'll quote the article.
"In the Southern Air Temple, a statue of Gyatso stood at the temple's entrance,"
"while in the Northern Air Temple, most of the statues and remains of the Air Nomad culture were removed in order to accommodate Earth Kingdom refugees."
"The Eastern Air Temple and the Western Air Temple both featured statues of Avatar Yangchen, the latter of which also included a long hall of statues, according to Teo"
That is all that's said, excluding a minor introduction which can essentially be summed up to "the air nomad statues were statues of air nomads". There are only two actual statues mentioned, and the fact that NAT statues were in poor condition, and a kind of confusing second half of a sentence. Essentially– nothing that could not be easily summed up in the separate articles otherwise. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 20:03, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
Are you planning on making a whole separate section for each article about the statues or where are you planning to squeeze it in? ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:42, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
From what I can understand– if they were merged with the single article they'd be added to their respective mentions, or if they were merged they'd be added to the description sections on each article. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 14:56, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Flying bison paintings

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Merge Merge — For similar reasons with the statues– these paintings don't particularly signify much as very little is known about them, other than the fact they existed. Not to mention things like "they have particular significance to the Air Nomads" can be considered speculation– as it's possible that they just painted the animals nearest to them. There's also a brief section of history on the locations of said murals– but that's basically these ones were destroyed, these ones weren't. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 02:23, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Same as above. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 02:57, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Merge Merge — Same as above. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:44, February 4, 2013 (UTC)