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Approved proposals

Metalbending Police Force

2-10-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||Police! Freeze where you are!|Metalbending officers in "[[Welcome to Republic City]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||My metalbenders and I will provide extra security [...] There's no better force to deal with the chi-blockers. Our armor is impervious to their attacks.|[[Chief of Police|Chief]] [[Lin Beifong]] to the [[United Republic Council]] in "[[And the Winner Is...]]".}}
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;Proposed replacement #2
{{Quote||If you keep the arena open, my metalbenders and I will provide extra security during the championship match. There's no better force to deal with the chi-blockers. Our armor is impervious to their attacks.|[[Lin Beifong|Lin]] talking about her officers in an attempt to persuade the council from closing down the  [[Pro-bending#Pro-bending Tournament|Pro-bending Championship Tournament]] in [[And the Winner Is...]].}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal Number One will be the new profile quote
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The current quote identifies the group as a police force, but it doesn't really indicate what makes them a special organization. The proposal has its flaws as well, though it does say they are metalbenders and that the group is specially equipped to handle important tasks. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 17:11, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:18, February 10, 2013 (UTC)
The new quote isn't perfect, but for now I support it as an alternative to the current, which doesn't really say anything about the organization in general. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 21:21, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Tossing out a longer and IMO better option. Srijay KTechFilmer 00:36, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

I'm still with proposal one. The only meaningful addition two makes to one is the championship match, though that is superfluous and a bit irrelevant as it says nothing about the police force. Context is already provided in one with "chi blockers". Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 02:22, February 11, 2013 (UTC)
I like proposal number uno. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:28, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Than

2-24-2013

;Current
{{Quote||Hello there, fellow refugees!|Than to [[Team Avatar]] in "[[The Serpent's Pass]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
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{{Quote||We're all looking for a better life, safe behind the walls of Ba Sing Se.|Than to [[Team Avatar]] in "[[The Serpent's Pass]]".}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed will be the new quote.
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While adding some images to Than's article, I saw his quote and thought that it is pretty meaningless and says nothing about his character. Thus I would like to propose this cange. I know that this quote is also rather generic, but I did not find a more fitting one, and it certainly says more about him than the current one. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 10:36, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion; I support the change - the current is a mere greeting while the proposed provides details on Than's goals and wishes to lead a safer life with his family. The Ultimate Waterbender 21:16, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
I support the change also. It better depicts him as in entirety. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 03:45, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Out of the Past

3-19-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||Aang... this whole time... you were trying to warn me about Tarrlok.|Korra to herself after mediating on her visions.}}

;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||Aang, this whole time, you were trying to warn me...|Korra after meditating on her visions.}}

;Proposed replacement #2:
{{Quote||I finally connected with you, Aang. But, what are you trying to tell me?|Korra after meditating on her visions.}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Current quote will remain.
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The current bothers me for a few reasons. The first is it doesn't match our transcript, second, it says Aang was trying to warn her about Tarrlok, even though he was trying to warn her about Amon too. Third, she didn't really say that to herself, she said it to Aang. I think both proposals are fine, one more closely sticks to the current and the overall result of the episode, while two instead describe the events in the episode. I think either are fine, imo. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 03:57, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Since this was overall about the warning, I'm more inclined to go with proposal #1. But likewise, either one would be fine with me. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 04:14, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
Support for the current. Any inconsistency issues with the transcript could've been changed -as has been done- as well as the "quote explanation" -as still can be done- without a quote proposal, so all the reasons to change that allude to that are moot.
The current quote is the best overall. Korra "stopped" between the parts of her sentences long enough for there to be ellipses instead of commas, so that rules out one for me. As for #2, the fact that the current quote is said to Aang and mentions Tarrlok links better to the two sides of the story than proposal 2, as that one basically stays in the dark over the plotline regarding Tarrlok. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:31, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Jinzuk and Rina

3-23-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||I love you, Ursa. You know that, don't you?|Rina to [[Ursa]] before [[Ozai]]'s proposal.}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||You have lovely parents." <br /> "They have always been good to me.|[[Ozai]] and [[Ursa]] about [[Jinzuk and Rina]] in ''[[The Search Part 1]].}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:

The Proposed quote will be the new profile quote.

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Since the page is (for now) a combined page, I figure it only stands to reason that the quote refers to both parents as opposed to a quote -though a good one- said by only one parent. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 18:07, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion and agreed per above. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:13, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
Support. When I put the current quote on the page, it was just for Rina, but the proposal fits much better if it is for both of them. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 21:10, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
Support. I agree with the above reasons. --AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 19:43, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Suki

3-24-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||I am a warrior, but I'm a girl too.|Suki to [[Sokka]] after she kissed him in "[[The Warriors of Kyoshi]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||I'm an elite warrior who's trained for many years in the art of stealth. I think I could get you backstage.|Suki agreeing to help [[Sokka]] in "[[The Ember Island Players]]".}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:

Quote will not be changed

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There is nothing really wrong with the current quote, though perhaps we can do better. The proposed quote emphasized more her skill as a warrior -which is the biggest role we know her in- while, by included the backstage part, still giving a wink to her helpful side. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:41, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. The Ultimate Waterbender 22:47, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
I like the proposed, but could it do without the "I think I could get you backstage" part? I think it's just a bit unnecessary and not really relevant, since you would need to have known the context and the episode etc. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 23:04, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
I like the current, it shows her warrior side as well has her feminine side. Chakras, that part is needed otherwise it give the impression that Suki is only warrior no fun. Srijay KTechFilmer 23:56, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
Yes but just by reading it, you can't really tell she's being "fun", and if you didn't know the context that Sokka asked her to get her backstage, there wouldn't really be any way to tell that it was a light-hearted joke. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 00:06, March 25, 2013 (UTC)
We could perhaps fix that by adding as the quote explanation "Suki jokingly agreeing ..." (or something in that nature). Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:09, March 25, 2013 (UTC)
Good idea, I can live with that.ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 06:17, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Personally, I prefer the current. The proposed doesn't make much sense out of context, and the "elite warrior" thing sounds OOC without the other part, which doesn't make much sense out of context. And, if that part is removed but the "jokingly agreeing" part is put instead, it sounds kind of odd to have her say "I am an elite warrior who has..." as a way of agreeing to help somebody. I don't know, i just feel like the current is simpler, and it gives a general idea about Suki's role in the series. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 06:52, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Fire Nation engineers

3-27-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||Hey, I'm Qin Lee. I work up in communications." <br /> "Oh, hi. I work down in the engine room. That's probably why we never met before. Big airship, you know?|A communications worker and an engineer engaging in an awkward conversation in "[[Sozin's Comet, Part 3: Into the Inferno]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||I figure a machine this big needs engineers to run it. And when something breaks..." <br /> "They come to fix it!|[[Sokka]] and [[Katara]] discussing the duties of the [[Fire Nation engineers]] in "[[The Drill]]".}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:

The proposed will be the new profile quote.

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The current quote is focused rather pointedly on that single engineer seen in the series, as opposed to Fire Nation engineers as a whole; and while the engineer does briefly mention his work, the current, I feel, is more elaborate in its description of the duties of the engineers. Additionally, the current quote has a lot of excess detail/lines from the conversation that really do not pertain to the subject matter. The Ultimate Waterbender 18:48, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:49, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
I support the change, as I agree with Ultimate's reasons. --AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 19:24, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
Support per above. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 22:50, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

I support the current quote. I think its better to have the quote be by the person, or a member of the group that are being represented. Also i think that scene was hilarious! -Eigne85

-nods- Of course it's always preferable to have a quote personally stated by the subject of the article or member of said subject. However, the primary goal of the main quote is to accurately and specifically state the role, character and/or importance of the subject matter. If a quote stated by an outside source best serves that purpose, it's preferable to use that then. And in this case, when there aren't many quotes to choose from, that principle only further applies. The Ultimate Waterbender 23:14, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Zuko

3-27-2013

;Current
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{{Quote||I used to think this scar marked me - the mark of the banished prince, cursed to chase the Avatar forever. But lately, I've realized I'm free to determine my own destiny, even if I'll never be free of my mark.|Zuko to [[Katara]] in "[[The Crossroads of Destiny]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
:
{{Quote||"My name is Zuko, son of Ursa and Fire Lord Ozai. Prince of the Fire Nation and heir to the throne.|Zuko revealing his identity to Earth Kingdom citizens in "[[Zuko Alone]]".}}
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Quote will stay as is.
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For Zuko, his quote is far too specific for his character. It needs to be broader. The quote I propose is from Zuko Alone. In this quote Zuko is proud of his identity, but there is more to it than that. He is proud of who he is, but not because of his family or his royal name. But instead because he is beginning to realize he must create his own identity, shape his own destiny. Before he says this he has a flashback to his mother telling him to never forget who he is, no matter how things seem to change. She is not telling him to remember his place, that he should rule the Fire Nation as his father did, but instead remember that he is different from his family. In his childhood he showed compassion and mercy, example being when he spoke out to defend the new recruits of the Fire Nation, what caused him to receive his scar. This quote is Zuko accepting where he comes from, but also realizing that it doesn't mean he needs to be the same as his father. After he says this quote he offers the earth kingdom boy the knife iroh gave to him because he feels a connection with the boy, and i think, because he feels partly responsible for his brother being captured in the war. Do you think Ozai or Azula would have done this, of course not. Zuko stands alone in this moment. It his defining moment of becoming independent of his family. And there is no better quote to represent a person than when they declare their identity with confidence and courage.

I know it is short and is pretty obvious, but anyone who know avatar will know its significance when they remember Zuko standing in that Earth Kingdom village declaring his identity with honor and pride. -Eigne85

Approved for discussion.
I oppose. The current one captures his character and his struggle way better than a very generic quote that might even not be true after The Search is concluded with Ikem and all. Also, the value of the proposed quote lies in the fact that people would know the exact circumstances of why Zuko precisely said that quote -which not everyone knows. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 02:40, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
I also oppose - it's a good analysis of the quote, but really, it doesn't say much of anything by itself. The current is a good marker of his struggle - just the powerful symbolism the scar represents of his personal war overall. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:43, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
I oppose as well, firstly because (as Lostris said) he may not even be Ozai's son. Secondly, because he was banished for a few years, meaning he wasn't the heir to the throne and that's how we know him best, as the banished prince. And we also like keeping up with the newest information possible, and currently, Zuko is the Fire Lord, so saying he is heir to the throne is not current. The current shows all sides of Zuko and what he actually feels. There's no problem with the quote being specific. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:48, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Iroh (United Forces general)

4-5-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||Tell her we will be arriving in three days' time and that I look forward to winning back Republic City, together.|Iroh relaying a message to [[Korra]] in "[[Turning the Tides]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||Hmm... My grandfather would respect the Avatar's instinct. So will I.|Iroh to [[Korra]] while debating over War Plans.}}
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;Proposed replacement #2:
{{Quote||Hmm... My grandfather[, Zuko] would respect the Avatar's instinct. So will I.|Iroh to [[Korra]] while debating over War Plans.}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Quote will not be changed.
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The current says nothing about him. When we picked it we had one quote to choose from. Now we have 2 more episodes of quotes to pick from. This quote describes him better. While it is not perfect, it is much better IMO. Srijay KTechFilmer 13:29, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I disagree. The current quote shows his position and dedication as the General of the United Forces, whereas the proposed quote says nothing about him at all. It hints that the general of the UF's mighty fleets needs his grandfather to make decisions for him. Furthermore, it only makes sense in context that everyone knows that Zuko is his grandfather. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:08, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
I disagree as well for all of Lostris's reasons, because the second one doesn't sound right unless you know who is grandpa is. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 06:39, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

As it has been stated that you need to know who Iroh's grandpa I have updated the quote now. Srijay KTechFilmer 13:07, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Now you've just changed the quote to something, making it look somewhat ugly and distorted. The current one still outshines either of the proposed for all the reasons previously mentioned. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:12, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Shinu

4-14-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||Absolutely not. The Yuyan Archers stay here. Your request is denied, Commander Zhao.|Shinu to [[Zhao]] in "[[The Blue Spirit]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||[The search for the Avatar] is nothing but a vanity project! We're fighting a real war here, and I need every man I've got, commander.|Shinu to [[Zhao]] in "[[The Blue Spirit]]".}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:

The proposed quote will be the new profile quote.

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The current quote is rather out-of-context if you don't know what Zhao wants, while the proposal tells us more about Shinu's personality: his position as hard-bitten veteran and his views on the war and the Avatar. It should be noted that Shinu firmly believed in conventional warfare; he was against Zhao's search for the Avatar, and he proposed sending more troops into the Earth Kingdom instead of burning it down. The proposal includes this belief as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 17:09, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:21, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
I support per DFT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TechFilmer (wallcontribs) 22:50, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Ukano

5-4-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||So, the resistance has kidnapped my son. Everything so clever, so tricky! Just like their King Bumi.|[[Mai]]'s father on the kidnapping of his [[Tom-Tom|son]] in "[[Return to Omashu]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||We'll return the Fire Nation to greatness by returning Fire Lord Ozai to his throne.|Mai's father to [[Mai]] at a [[New Ozai Society]] meeting in "[[Rebound]]".}}
{{Discussion Closed|result=Proposed will be the new profile quote.}}

The current quote clearly doesn't represent Mai's father more stern and hard personality as was revealed in Rebound. The proposed on the other hand does reflect that harder side of him and explicitly proclaims his loyalty to Ozai -which also reveals a lot about his character. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:29, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 21:35, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
Support per LL. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 22:06, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
Support per Madame Lostris. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 04:05, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

Tom-Tom

5-4-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||Does that look like the face of a killer to you?|[[Katara]] to [[Yung]] about Tom-Tom in "[[Return to Omashu]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||I missed you so much!|Tom-Tom to [[Mai]] in "[[Rebound]]".}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed will be the new profile quote.
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The proposed quote is a sentence actually said by Tom-Tom and it conveys how much he cares about his sister, revealing more about his character than the current quote does. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:29, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 21:35, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
Full support. I also thought about proposing to change Tom-Tom's quote, but LL was (as always) quicker than me. :D DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 22:06, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
Support per everyone else. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 04:05, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

"Don't Blow It!"

5-17-2013

;Current
{{Quote||Aang, it's time to get up! Breakfast is ready!|Katara to Aang.}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||A ''little'' case of the sniffles, huh?|[[Sokka]] sarcastically rebutting [[Aang]]'s claim after the Avatar's colossal sneeze.}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed will be the new profile quote.
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The current quote says nothing about the plot of the comic, being that Aang refuses help for his cold that will get the gang into trouble. The proposed reveals more about the comic's plot — Sokka is telling Aang in the quote that Aang's sickness is more than a regular cold, while also showing that Aang had denied having a bad cold earlier in the comic. Krazykid51 21:39, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:44, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed per reasoning given in the proposal. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 21:56, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
Support per everyone else. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 22:56, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
I thought that quotes in comic book articles aren't needed.(According to the Ultimate W. undid). Yangchen-spriteUnnamed AirbenderAang-end-c1 (Message Me · Read my fanon) 00:04, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
Episode pages have quotes, so why not comics as well? As long as a meaningful quote can be found, that is. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:06, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
Support. The current quote doesn't imply the whole comic book. AcerEvan ( Contributions · Zuko EK Fugitive) 00:07, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Combustion Man on a Train

5-18-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||OOOOOH! I wonder what that's for..and that! and that!|[[Sokka]] admiring the train's car.}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||He must have seen us at the station and followed us onto the train!|[[Sokka]] to [[Aang]] after taking notice of [[Combustion Man]]'s presence.}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed will be the new quote.
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The current doesn't really say anything about the comic, just Sokka taking a look at the interior of the Fire Nation train. While the proposed isn't perfect, I think at the very least it gives us more detail about the plot, that CM has tracked Aang and Sokka down to the train. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:51, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. And I agree. KettleMeetPotwall 13:55, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
Definitely. Quotes are meant to capture the essence of their subject, which is only done by the proposed in this case. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:57, May 18, 2013 (UTC).
Support. I'm not really good at adding quotes but I just didn't want to publish an article without a quote. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unnamed Airbender (wallcontribs) 14:00, May 18, 2013‎
If you don't know a good quote, it's better to publish without. Adding a quote can be done instantly, changing a quote needs to go through this process and takes at least three days. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:48, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
Full support. Better implies the episode well. (I receive an Edit Conflict --") AcerEvan ( Contributions · Fanonbenders · Piandao sprite) 14:49, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Reach for the Toph

5-21-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||This ends now, Toph!|[[Aang]] to [[Toph Beifong|Toph]].}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||No fair! You ''moved'' the hill! That's cheating!|[[Katara]] angrily berating [[Toph Beifong|Toph]].}}
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Proposed will be the new profile quote.
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The current quote does not reflect the entire comic — although the first half of the comic leads the reader to believe Team Avatar is truly quarreling with Toph (which is reflected by the current quote), the latter half is lightened in tone by the proposed quote, which hints at the fact that they are in fact playing a game and not trying to hurt one another. However, a reader on the wiki may only see the proposed as an out-of-context reference to the comic, so he will not have the ending (being that Toph is actually playing the role of Queen of the Hill) spoiled simply by reading the quote. Krazykid51 19:40, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 20:11, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Tong

6-7-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||That's why we call it justice. Because it's 'just us'. Hahaha!|Mayor Tong mocking Team Avatar's efforts to free Aang.}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote|| I say what happened , then you say what happened, and then I decide who's right. That's why we call it justice. Because it's 'just us'!|Mayor Tong explaining [[Chin Village]]'s court system and mocking [[Team Avatar]].}}
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Proposed will be the new profile quote.
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There are a few reasons I think that the quote should be changed. First of all, I feel like without the context the quote doesn't have as much meaning behind it. Second, I think the hahaha sounds somewhat unprofessional, and at the least it could be changed to (laughs), though preferably it is removed all together, because I think it is somewhat irrelevant. Also, I changed the description to better fit the what he is saying in the new quote. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 00:41, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 00:49, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with you. The first quote doesn't stand for "Tong" well. AcerEvan ( Contributions · Zuko EK Fugitive) 06:59, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Rafa and Misu

7-11-2013

;Current
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{{Quote||So you've spent almost your whole life trying to heal your brother."<br/>"Of course. I'm his sister.|[[Aang]] and Misu about Rafa.}}
;Proposed replacement #1
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{{Quote||Growing up, my brother and I were complete opposites. I was quiet and studious, he was loud and brash. I followed the rules, he lived to break them.|Misu to [[Team Avatar]].}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
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The current quote only seems to address Misu's character, and not Rafa's. Besides, I believe the proposed replacement does a better job of conveying the two, as the distinction between both of their characters is much clearer. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 20:19, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Not much to add beyond "I agree". PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 20:29, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
Full support. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 21:02, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Varrick

7-27-2013

;Current
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{{Quote||Stop! Look me in the eye. We got a deal! We'll hammer out the details at the royal feast tonight.|Varrick making a deal with [[Asami Sato|Asami]] to become a shipping partner for [[Future Industries]].}}
;Proposed replacement #1
:
{{Quote||Stop! Look me in the eye. We got a deal!|Varrick making a deal with [[Asami Sato|Asami]] to become a shipping partner for [[Future Industries]].}}
;Proposed replacement #2
:
{{Quote||You're a real straight shooter, just like me.|Varrick to [[Bolin]] in "[[Rebel Spirit]]".}}
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Proposal #1 will be the new profile quote.
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I propose we shorten the current quote as the bit about the feast is just irrelevant to Varrick. Shortened, it only focuses on his weirdness and his business-side. The other proposal focuses on a more specific trait of his character, so it just depends what the community wants to highlight. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:29, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I like #1 by the way. KettleMeetPotwall 05:50, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, it's not as easy just going off the script. :/ I also prefer PQ1 as it captures both ends of his personality; something I had in mind originally when I picked the current off the transcript. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 06:07, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
#1 for me as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 15:01, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Bumi

7-27-2013

;Current
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{{Quote||[He is a] bit of a wild man, but the bravest commander you'll ever meet.|[[Iroh (United Forces general)|General Iroh]] describing Commander Bumi to [[Team Avatar (Legend of Korra)|Team Avatar]].}}
;Proposed replacement #1
:
{{Quote||The paperwork's gone through, little brother. From now on, it's 24/7 Bumi time!|[[Bumi]] to [[Tenzin]] in "[[Rebel Spirit]]".}}
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It shows Bumi's personality a bit more in his own words and how much he cares for his brother. You've gotta take it up a notch. 14:28, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:34, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
I disagree with the proposal and support the current one. The current one is a description of Bumi's character as he is perceived by others, which is, at this point, still the most we have to go on. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:40, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
I also disagree. I don't think it really shows his personality as much as the current quote and I don't see how it shows how much he cares for Tenzin. --AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 11:28, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
I disagree as well, I don't really get how the proposed shows Bumi's character. The current one does it best. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 03:55, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Yakone's wife

7-29-2013

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{{Quote||That's where he met my mother, a warm, caring woman.|[[Tarrlok]] speaking of Yakone's wife.}}
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{{Quote||...A warm, caring woman.|[[Tarrlok]] speaking of Yakone's wife.}}
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It's very minor but nevertheless I believe that the first part of the current quote is unnecessary. It's unclear as to where Tarrlok is talking about until one reads the article and it adds no more of a description to Yakone's wife. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 14:32, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 14:38, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with this proposal. It may be a very short summary but it's the best I've heard so far. Like the person said, it doesn't show where it she came from. AvatarIonathan (wallcontribs)


The Dark One

8-8-2013

;Current
{{Quote||I hate... I hate... all of this!|The Dark One's general stance on the world.}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||Why can't people see I'm more than just a pretty face?! I have the soul of a poet!|The Dark One's describing himself.}}
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Although the Dark One is generally made out to be someone who hates everything, this line sums up that he may not hate everything. By saying he has the soul of a poet, it proves the Dark One in fact does not hate everything and that he may aspire to be a poet someday. The current quote just states that he likes to express dislike for many things, but my proposed replacement sums up who the Dark One might really be. Appa-dobs1HenryJh 98 (BlogsFOTHParallel)Appa Sprite 21:43, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:59, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
I support the change, as I agree with the reasons stated. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 18:03, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
I support the replacement. Although it might not be a perfect fit, it's the best one we've got. The current one describes his opinion and the proposed replacement somewhat describes what he's like. AvatarIonathan (wallcontribs)

Peasant Uprising in Ba Sing Se

8-13-2013

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{{Quote||One of my greatest challenges was dealing with a peasant uprising in Ba Sing Se.|[[Avatar]] [[Kyoshi]] to [[Aang]] in [[Escape from the Spirit World#Avatar Kyoshi Online Comic Book|''Escape from the Spirit World'': Avatar Kyoshi Online Comic Book]].}}
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{{Quote||The peasants felt that the Earth King's role was outdated and that he did not represent their interests. So they stormed the Upper Ring.|[[Avatar]] [[Kyoshi]] to [[Aang]] in [[Escape from the Spirit World#Avatar Kyoshi Online Comic Book|''Escape from the Spirit World'': Avatar Kyoshi Online Comic Book]].}}
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The current quote does nothing to introduce the nature of the conflict, apart from the fact that it was challenging to handle. I believe the proposed does a great and succinct job of introducing both causality and course of action. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 19:20, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 19:27, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
I agree, it's more descriptive. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 19:24, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
I agree as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 14:31, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
I agree. The current quote doesn't really sum up the uprising, but the proposed replacement does. Appa-dobs1HenryJh 98 (BlogsFOTHParallel)Appa Sprite 17:08, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Bolin

8-16-2013

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{{Quote||Wish me luck! Not... that I'll need it.|Bolin bragging to [[Korra]] in "[[A Leaf in the Wind]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||Maybe I just can't turn my back on people when they're down!|Bolin to Mako in [[Republic City Hustle]].}}
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This is a different kind of change, and I'm not completely sold on it myself (but I don't really like Bolin's current quote). I feel like this quote grasps more of Bolin's serious side, and while it is lacking in terms of Bolin's comedic side, I feel like it does a good job grasping Bolin as a character and how he cares about other people and their feelings a lot. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 23:38, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, and I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:41, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with the change as well. It shows him with more depth, as opposed to just arrogance. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 01:00, August 17, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed, the proposed does a better job of showcasing Bolin's personality, and has a lot more meaning than that random "wish me luck". PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:59, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

Kya (nonbender)

9-1-2013

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{{Quote||Just let her go, and I'll give you the information you want.|Kya pleading with [[Yon Rha]] not to hurt [[Katara]].}}
;Proposed replacement #1
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{{Quote||Your mother would be proud, too.|[[Hakoda]] to [[Katara]] and [[Sokka]] in "[[Sozin's Comet, Part 4: Avatar Aang]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #2
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{{Quote||Your mother was a brave woman.|[[Zuko]] to [[Katara]] in "[[The Southern Raiders]]".}}
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I really don't feel that the current quote really describes her that much. I really feel that the first replacement is a nice one because it describes how much their mother would have been proud of them. I also think that the second one could work, too, since it does sort of describe how someone felt about her, even though he didn't really know her. AvatarIonathan (wallcontribs) 02:13, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I don't think this quote needs to be changed, though - it does show her caring nature for Katara in her willingness to turn over information to spare her daughter's life, which is what we most know her for. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:16, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with KFB. The current quote shows her protective defiance for her daughter well enough. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 13:07, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
Oppose per KFB and ARG. I think the current quote gives a better representation of Kya as a person than the proposed ones. HAMMEROFTHOR 13:31, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
I oppose per KFB, ARG, and Thor. The current ones work just as well as the proposed one, if not the best of the three. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 13:36, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Toza

9-7-2013

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{{Quote||You know, I'm sick and tired of you kids sneaking in without paying. I'm taking you to security!|Toza admonishing [[Korra]].}}
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{{Quote||I could find you a place to stay right here in the arena. Who knows, you could be champs. At least it's a chance at an honest living.|Toza to [[Mako]] in [[Republic City Hustle]].}}
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In my opinion, this proposed does a better job of showing Toza's personality than the current. The fact that he chose to take in Mako and Bolin and protect them from the wrath of the Triple Threat Triad shows that he is not really just a grumpy old man, as the current portrays him to be. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 15:54, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:59, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
I agree. I think the proposal shows Toza's personality more completely - the current one just shows him in a bad mood. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 00:55, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
I support this change. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 01:54, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
I'll support per Fruipit. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 01:48, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Varrick (2)

10-12-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||Stop! Look me in the eye... We got a deal!|Varrick making a deal with [[Asami Sato|Asami]] to become a shipping partner for [[Future Industries]].}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||I like to think I'm always there to stand up for the little guy, especially if that little guy can help ''this'' guy become a bigger guy.|Varrick explains his buying of controlling interest in Future Industries to Mako in "The Sting".}}
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The proposed quote does a better job of displaying his business oriented mind, while at the same time hinting a shade of his shadiness. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:08, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:44, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed per Omni. HAMMEROFTHOR 14:00, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Wan

10-19-2013

;Current
{{Quote||My name is Wan, and I will show you how I became the first Avatar.|Wan to [[Korra]] in "[[Beginnings, Part 1]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||Haven't you heard the legends? I'm not a regular human anymore!|Wan to [[Vaatu]] in "[[Beginnings, Part 2]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #2
{{Quote||This is my mission: to use Raava's light spirit to guide the world to world peace.|Wan elaborating on his life's goal in "[[Beginnings, Part 2]]".}}
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This quote better illustrates Wan's personality and journey as the first Avatar, since his not being "like other humans" is an arc phrase throughout his story, and he says it to his greatest enemy moments prior to becoming a fully-realised Avatar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Regal lionturtle (wallcontribs) 20:53, October 19, 2013‎ (UTC)

Approved for discussion, and I also added a second quote. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:31, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
I prefer the second proposal, as it gives more information on both the character, and the Avatar Spirit. FruipyLoops Toph-DoBS-2 13:35, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
I am also in favor of the second quote, per Fruipit.--AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 18:33, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
Second quote as well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:40, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Two Toed Ping

10-21-2013

;Current:
{{Quote||We 'protect' these fine establishments around here for a... small fee.|Two Toed Ping about the work of the [[Triple Threat Triad]] in [[Welcome to Republic City (game)]].}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||I agree. Keep quiet. Mouth zipped, don't say a word. That's the best thing to do when you're trying to ambush somebody, which is what we're doing here, and it's basically what I'm always doing. I mean, I am a gangster, after all, and -|Two Toed Ping to [[Mako]] in "[[The Sting]]".}}
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I think the current quote doesn't do Two Toed Ping's quirky, talkative and somewhat annoying character justice. The proposal, however, portrays him just like that, while it also mentions his occupation/affiliation. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 19:46, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:05, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
Support, per DFT: it's all around much better. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 03:24, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

Beginnings, Part 2

10-23-2013

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{{Quote||The Harmonic Convergence is only weeks away.|The [[shaman]] to [[Korra]].}}
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{{Quote||This is my mission: to use Raava's light spirit to guide the world to world peace.|Wan elaborating on his life's goal.}}
;Proposed replacement #2
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{{Quote||Don't worry, we will be together for all of your lifetimes, and we will never give up.|Raava heralding the start of the Avatar cycle to [[Wan]] upon his death.}}
;Proposed replacement #3
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{{Quote||Raava! The only way to win is together.|[[Wan]] calling upon [[Raava]] to merge their energies.}}
;Proposed replacement #4
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{{Quote||We are bonded forever.|[[Raava]] after permanently merging her spirit with [[Wan]], creating the [[Avatar|Avatar Spirit]].}}
;Proposed replacement #5
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{{Quote||The spirits must stop fighting the humans and return to their home in the Spirit World. I will teach men to respect the spirits so that balance will be maintained. I will be the bridge between our two worlds.|[[Wan]].}}
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The current quote has only relevance to the last few minutes of the episode. The point of the episode was to finish Wan's story, and I feel like any of the proposed does a better job summarizing the point of that plotline. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:05, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. KettleMeetPotwall 02:17, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
I agree that the quote needs to be changed. I'd go with proposal #5 personally because I think it best connects the old times to Korra's time. I mean, for all we know now the reason for the lack of balance is because of the lack of reverence to the spirit on part of the Southern Water Tribe. It seems to fit. --AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 21:36, October 23, 2013 (UTC)


Bumi

11-3-2013

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{{Quote||[He is a] bit of a wild man, but the bravest commander you'll ever meet.|General Iroh describing Commander Bumi to Team Avatar.}}
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{{Quote||Look, uh, I'm sorry I didn't turn out to be an airbender like you hoped. But I've tried my best to keep the world safe. Hope I made you proud.|Bumi to a statue of his father in "Civil Wars, Part 2".}}
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Current quote, while accurate, seems to describe Bumi's book one cameo much more than the character we got to know through book two. Proposed quote shows a key aspect of his personality, and was said by the character himself instead of a third party, like the current quote. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:07, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:50, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. It does better demonstrate his Book 2 self. GPFluteAvatar 12:30, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Definitely support. Bumi is no longer a commander and we've realized that Kya and Bumi have always felt a little resentful about their father's apparent greater pride in Tenzin than themselves. The proposed also implies a reason why he joined the United Forces and possessed that bravery/wild state that Iroh described. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 02:02, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Unalaq

11-7-2013

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{{Quote||I have spent my life studying spirits and learning their ways. All of this knowledge is lost in the South. But I could teach you everything I know.|Unalaq to Korra in "Rebel Spirit".}}
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{{Quote||Harmonic Convergence is almost upon us. This is my opportunity to change the world.|Unalaq to Desna and Eska in "The Guide".}}
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Current quote still showcases Unalaq as a benevolent teacher. Proposed quote shows his ambition, and misguided and villainous as Unalaq is, he seems to truly believe that he's doing what's best for the world. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:39, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:59, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with the proposal. It's a very appropriate quote that shows his motivations and reflects his character. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 16:03, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 18:09, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Kya

11-7-2013

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{{Quote||Bumi, don't pick on Tenzin. You know he's always been sensitive.|Kya to Bumi in "Rebel Spirit".}}
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{{Quote||You think ''you're'' the responsible one? Where were you after dad died and mom was all alone? Because ''I'' was the only one who packed up and moved my ''whole'' life to be with her.|Kya to Tenzin in "Civil Wars, Part 1".}}
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Current quote seems very bland, and doesn't really say anything about Kya. It was probably chosen right after the first two episodes aired. Proposed quote is the most personal about herself she has said so far, unlike the majority of her other significant quotes, which are usually about other people. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:13, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:59, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

I would almost go for Ikki's description of her in "Civil Wars, Part 2", if it sounded a little better than it did. Nonetheless, the proposal captures that same idea, in that it represents Kya's caring nature, which is the most prominent feature she's displayed so far. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 16:05, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

May-Jim

11-10-2013

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{{Quote||The Spirit World is very mysterious, but so is love.|[[Iroh]] about May-Jim's marriage.}}
;Proposed replacement #1
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{{Quote||Complete opposites? I know.''"<br />"''I tried to fight it, but she really grew on me.|May and Jim to [[Korra]] about their love in "A New Spiritual Age".}}
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The proposed is said by May and Jim about their love, as opposed to a generic quote by Iroh said about love and the Spirit World in general. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:03, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:53, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
I don't find either particularly revealing, but I favor the proposal on account of actually being a quote from the characters instead of a quote about the characters. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:13, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Meelo

11-14-2013

;Current
{{Quote||Yeah, let's do it! What are we doing?|Meelo to [[Team Avatar (Korra)|Team Avatar]] in "[[When Extremes Meet]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||What about Meelo? He's hilarious too, you never know what's going to come out of his mouth!|[[Tenzin]] about Meelo in "[[Civil Wars, Part 2]]".}}
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I feel like the current is outdated and does not really provide any insight to Meelo's character- someone who didn't watch that episode wouldn't be able to deduce anything about it, and simply infer that he gets confused, which is not the case. The proposal is Tenzin's own description of his son, and I think it says a lot about his character. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 02:55, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:04, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
I usually go for something characters say themselves, but I agree with this one. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:23, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Just like Omnibender, I typically prefer quotes stated by the character themselves. However, the proposed is a much more solid description of his character than the current, so I agree. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 00:09, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I agree as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 05:20, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Tree of Time

11-16-2013

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{{Quote||The Tree of Time. That's where Avatar Wan imprisoned Vaatu.|[[Jinora]] recognizing the Tree of Time in a book from [[Wan Shi Tong's Library]].}}
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{{Quote||This is the Tree of Time. And the legends say that its roots bind the spirit and physical worlds together.|[[Tenzin]] to [[Korra]] in "[[Light in the Dark]]".}}
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The tree had had a history before Vaatu's imprisonment there and after the third Harmonic Convergence, it no longer contained the Dark Spirit. As such, the current quote is now outdated. Plus, the proposal also more describes what the importance of the tree is. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:33, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 04:47, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with the proposed. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 21:04, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Tenzin

11-17-2013

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{{Quote||I have done my best to guide Republic City toward the dream my father had for it, but you're right. It has fallen out of balance since he passed. I thought I should put off your training in order to uphold his legacy, but you are his legacy.|Tenzin agreeing to train Korra at Air Temple Island.}}
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{{Quote||I am not a reflection of my father. I am Tenzin.|Tenzin finding his spiritual enlightenment in "Darkness Falls".}}
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Tenzin undergoes a spiritual growth at the end of Season 2, with the proposed quote being the outcome, thus making the current quote outdated. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 02:31, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 04:47, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Support. The Proposed better reflects the "new" Tenzin. GPFluteAvatar 15:05, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Jinora

11-17-2013

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{{Quote||Gran Gran, I've been reading all about your old adventures!|Jinora to [[Katara]] in "[[Welcome to Republic City]]".}}
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{{Quote||The world's in trouble... I have to go help. |Jinora to [[Tenzin]] in "[[Darkness Falls]]".}}
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Though Jinora is an avid bookworm and a granddaughter of Katara, that doesn't sufficiently define her character anymore. She has played a much bigger role in guiding Korra into the Spirit World and in bringing light back when Korra needed it most against Unalaq and Vaatu.AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 20:51, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, and I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:52, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. The proposed is definitely a more representative quote. HAMMEROFTHOR 08:03, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Light in the Dark

11-22-2013

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{{Quote||Find the light in the dark.|Unalaq to Korra.}}
;Proposed replacement #1
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{{Quote||Let go of your attachment to who you think you are, and connect with your inner spirit.|Tenzin to Korra.}}
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Current quote is actually a memory of what Unalaq told Korra while she still though him to be a good teacher in a completely different episode. Also, it is very vague in relation to the episode, despite the title drop in it. Proposed quote is much clearer in what Korra had to do, and much more contextualized in the episode. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:24, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, and I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:26, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
Seems a good replacement. I concur. HAMMEROFTHOR 01:05, November 23, 2013 (UTC)
Full support, per Omni. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 02:17, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Korra

11-23-2013

;Current
{{Quote||Well, I got news for you. You need me, but I don't need you. I'm the Avatar.|Korra to [[Tarrlok]] in "[[When Extremes Meet]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||My mission will always be to use Raava's light spirit to guide the world toward peace and balance.|Korra in "[[Light in the Dark]]".}}
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;Proposed replacement #2
{{Quote||I've realized that even though we should learn from those who came before us, we must also forge our own path.|Korra in "Light in the Dark".}}
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Current quote is far too outdated. Korra has changed a lot and has come to realize the true nature of her role. I believe the proposed sums up her development and her current position rather succinctly. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 05:36, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:16, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed, the proposed is a much better representation of the current Korra. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 16:55, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

I am against the change. I see no reason to have Korra's quote a carbon copy of Wan's. I'm for a change of quotes, just not this one. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 17:20, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

I don't oppose the first proposal, but for something that isn't a copy of Wan's, here's a proposal that also showcases her development, without rehashing Wan's quote. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:38, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

PR2 per Omni; it's a new, original view for what direction Korra wishes to take the world. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:45, November 23, 2013 (UTC)
Okay I oppose my own proposal because Omni's is better lol I like it. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 19:38, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

You know, I don't like the current quote, but I also don't like how the proposed quotes remove her brashness. It's true that she develops, but as Tenzin noted, being strong & unyielding is an essential part of her character. These quotes are given during a speech, so in a sense, they're not exactly genuine.Neo Bahamut (wallcontribs) 08:07, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm... I'm with Neo on this one. Although Korra has indeed grown since the first book, she is still a proud person with a strong mind of her own. The current proposals -due to being quotes taken from a speech- sounds too... wise and Iroh-like for Korra. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 18:38, November 27, 2013 (UTC)
I'm with Neo too. Just not suited to Korra, more like other character who she's quoting not her own little qoutes that reflect her personality. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 21:48, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Neo. Perhaps there's another quote available that can show Korra's maturity while still letting her personality shine through. SukitheNinja Suki Sprite 03:46, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

I like Tenzin's quote, but it would be kind of nice if there was one that she herself said...Vishnu, I'm really demanding, aren't I?Neo Bahamut (wallcontribs) 03:56, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
Haha quite.SukitheNinja Suki Sprite 20:41, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Dark Avatar

11-27-2013

;Current
:
{{Quote||With you out of the way, I will be the one, true Avatar!|The Dark Avatar to [[Korra]] in "[[Light in the Dark]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
:
{{Quote||It's true that when Wan fused with Raava he tipped the scales in her favor, but this time I'll be here to level the playing field. When Harmonic Convergence comes, I will fuse with Vaatu, and together we will become the new Avatar. A Dark Avatar.|[[Unalaq]] to [[Korra]] in "[[Harmonic Convergence (episode)|Harmonic Convergence]]".})
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;Proposed replacement #2
{{Quote||When Harmonic Convergence comes, I will fuse with Vaatu, and together we will become the new Avatar. A Dark Avatar.|[[Unalaq]] to [[Korra]] in "[[Harmonic Convergence (episode)|Harmonic Convergence]]".}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal #2 will be the new quote.
Please do not edit this discussion.

The current quote seems to me to be irrelevant for the article. I believe the proposed does a much better job explaining the origin of the Dark Avatar and its significance in the recent Harmonic Convergence, rather than just having a declaration of superiority. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 00:17, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:22, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Support. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:15, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

I do agree with the change, but I don't think the entire passage is necessary. Perhaps just the second sentence? SukitheNinja Suki Sprite 03:43, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

I wanted to shorten it too. I just wasn't sure what to use. Having just the second sentence is fine by me. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 18:44, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Well, the second and third I mean. I think that passage summarizes the origins and the purpose of the Dark Avatar very well. SukitheNinja Suki Sprite 02:13, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

That works. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 02:34, December 2, 2013 (UTC)


As a visual guide, I've put up that shortened quote as PR2. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:39, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Spirit lights

11-29-2013

;Current
:
{{Quote||There used to be lights at the South as well, but during the Hundred Year War, the South was thrown out of balance and the lights disappeared.|Unalaq explains the disappearance of the southern lights in "The Southern Lights".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
:
{{Quote||When [the Glacier Spirits festival] was founded, the tribal elders would commune with the spirits. People would watch the brilliant displays of light as spirits danced in the sky.|Unalaq to Korra in "Rebel Spirit".}}
;Proposed replacement #2
:
{{Quote||Look to the sky. Where I'm from, the spirits are at peace and they light up the dark.|Unalaq to Tonraq in "The Southern Lights".}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal #2 will be the new quote.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Current quote gives insight on why they weren't around anymore, which in itself isn't bad, but the proposals do a better job in explaining what they are and how they come to be in the first place. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:28, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I like the second one best. Also seems to be the most to the point one. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:31, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
Second per LL. It's more concise and to the point than the others. HAMMEROFTHOR 22:31, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
Agree per LL. SukitheNinja Suki Sprite 02:15, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Aang

12-1-2013

;Current
{{Quote||I wasn't there when the Fire Nation attacked my people. I'm gonna make a difference this time.|Aang to [[Tribal Chief|Chief]] [[Arnook]].}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.|Aang to [[Korra]] in [[Endgame]].}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Current quote will not be changed.
Please do not edit this discussion.

The current one is too out of date. But, the current one shows Aang's wisdom and meaningful words. AvatarMJC (wallcontribs) 13:35, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:50, December 1, 2013 (UTC)
I disagree. There is nothing outdated about the current quote in terms of it describing Aang's character and how he saw the world. The only way it could possible be seen as outdated is the episode it was said in, but that's a moot point. The proposed is a generic non-committal quote that could've been said by anyone. It is not defining Aang as a character in any way. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:22, December 1, 2013 (UTC)
I agree. It is a lot more updated and gives more about his legacy. It also gives more about his current role.—Preceding unsigned comment added by AvatarIonathan (wallcontribs) 12:56, December 1, 2013
I disagree with the change per Lostris. The current is more representative of his character, as well as indicative of his major role as the Avatar. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 20:20, December 1, 2013 (UTC)
I disagree per Lostris and Water Spout. The current quote isn't outdated just because it's older than the new one. It represents his character, struggle, and position more. This is Slash, mission complete! 19:44, December 2, 2013 (UTC)Suki SpriteIroh Sprite OWL Outfit

Fang

12-5-2013

Current
:
{{Quote||It's all right, Fang! Get out of here! I'm fine!|[[Roku]] to Fang in "[[The Avatar and the Fire Lord]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
:
{{Quote||You're Avatar Roku's animal guide!|[[Aang]] to Fang in "[[Winter Solstice, Part 1: The Spirit World]]".}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal will be the new profile quote.
Please do not edit this discussion.

I don't think either quote is that great, but they're the only ones that can be used (at least to my recollection) and I definitely prefer the proposal over the current. For one, it actually offers much clearer insight to Fang's character, as the quote identifies him as an animal guide, which is a title held only by him and Appa (if just formally). Waterbending emblem Water Spout 07:26, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:47, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Lightning Bolt Zolt

12-5-2013

;Current
:
{{Quote||You're gonna regret doing that, pal!|Lightning Bolt Zolt accepting Amon's challenge to a duel in "[[The Revelation]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
:
{{Quote||You look ridiculous, fighting with kids. It's not dignified.|Lightning Bolt Zolt to Shady Shin in "Republic City Hustle: Part 3".}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal will be the new profile quote.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Current quote seems very generic, something like any overconfident character would say in that situation. Proposal is a more nuanced quote that goes a bit beyond the surface, showing something that goes beyond the crime boss. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:34, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:26, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Agree. SukitheNinja Suki Sprite 22:22, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Shady Shin

12-5-2013

;Current
:
{{Quote||So listen, I got an offer for you.|Shady Shin to Bolin in "[[The Revelation]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
:
{{Quote||Seeing those young crooks really gives me hope for the future.|Shady Shin in "Republic City Hustle: Part 1".}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal will be the new profile quote.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Current quote, while accurate, feels very vague. Proposal gives a more meaningful and specific outlook on him. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:34, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:26, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with the change. It really gives insight into Shin's character as a criminal. SukitheNinja Suki Sprite 22:18, December 8, 2013 (UTC)


I agree per Omnibender and SukitheNinja's reasons. I also feel the current is a little too vague and that the proposal gives us a better look at his personality and tells us more about the character.FirebenderAzula Azula sprite2323:13, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Viper

12-5-2013

;Current
:
{{Quote||Since you're obviously fresh off the boat, let me explain a couple things. You're in Triple Threat Triad territory, and we're about to put you in the hospital.|Viper to Korra in "[[Welcome to Republic City]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
:
{{Quote||So Mr. Law and Order needs our help, huh? What's in it for the Triple Threats?|Viper to Mako in "The Sting".}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Current quote will not be changed.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Not that the current quote is bad, but I think the proposal better shows his current position as a figure of power within the Triple Threats instead of his street muscle days. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:34, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:26, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

I disagree. I don't believe the proposed shows he is the head of the Triple Threats. To me it only shows he is part of the Triple Threats which the current shows also. I believe the current is more suited as his quote as it shows much of his personality. FirebenderAzula Azula sprite2302:01, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Omnibender's reasons and vote for the proposal. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 13:29, December 7, 2013 (UTC)
I disagree. It tells us nothing. AvatarIonathan (wallcontribs) 22:19, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Tyro

12-8-2013

;Current
:
{{Quote||You helped us find our courage, Katara. Now we're here to help you.|Tyro to [[Katara]] in "[[The Day of Black Sun, Part 1: The Invasion]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
:
{{Quote||My father was very courageous. When the Fire Nation invaded, he and the other earthbenders were outnumbered ten to one. But they fought back anyway.|[[Haru]] to [[Katara]] in "[[Imprisoned]]".}}
{{Discussion Closed|result=Proposal will be the new profile quote.}}
The proposed quote better displays Tyro's ferocious personality/bravery. Even though it is said by Haru instead of Tyro himself, I believe getting this across is more important. {{unsigned|DrDman20000|22:27, December 7, 2013}}
Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 22:07, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
I agree. AvatarIonathan (wallcontribs) 22:17, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. AvatarKya (wallcontribs) 22:22, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

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