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Approved proposals Edit

Chong Edit

9-15-2012 Edit

;Current
{{Quote||Nobody react to what I'm about to tell you, but I think that kid might be the Avatar!|[[Chong]] about [[Aang]] to [[Sokka]] and [[Katara]] in "[[The Cave of Two Lovers]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||I'm Chong and this is my wife, Lily. We're nomads, happy to go wherever the wind takes us!|[[Chong]] to [[Aang]] in "[[The Cave of Two Lovers]]".}}

The current quote is just him commenting on Aang, doesn't really say much about him (besides being possibly a bit slow, though it's more just play in to Sokka's comical role). The proposed quote he actually talks about himself, referencing his wife and tells us he's a nomad who travels to many places. While not a massive change I feel it is better suited. - Ruen (wallcontribs) 18:12, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, and I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:59, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. The proposed says more about who he is. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 21:53, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
I also strongly support. SixMoodyDwarves Sokka Sprite Season 1 Voltorb Is Back! Sokka-wolf-c1 23:05, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed; the proposal represents his character as a nomad. The Ultimate Waterbender 00:25, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
Support per Ruen. Magicboy 10xx Toph-DoBS-2 19:19, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
Total support. This is one of those ones that just had to be changed because it has no personality. It represents his character as a nomad and his laid-back happiness. WaterbenderTaikai Bolin sprite 02:09, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
Support per the reasons stated above.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  04:27, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed, because of per everyone and just the first one tells nothing about chong, just that he may be a bit slow but that's not what we want to remember about Chong(some may disagree). I like the idea that we can remember him as a carefree person, not as someone who is dumb enough not to see Aang's tatoos and think he not the Avatar. Though it is funny, it's not reflective. Chakrasandwich 邵曦' (wallcontribs)
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Yakone Edit

9-18-2012 Edit

;Current
{{Quote||Republic City is mine, Avatar. I'll be back one day to claim it.|Yakone to [[Aang]] in "[[Out of the Past]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||I thought I was better than my father, but his ghost still shaped me. I became a soldier of revenge, just like he wanted me to be. And so did my brother.| [[Tarrlok]] to [[Korra]] about his father's influence in "[[Skeletons in the Closet]]".}}

The current quote is outdated, as it shows his desire to conquer Republic City as seen when he was still a bloodbending crime boss. It is a good quote to describe his role. But I believe that my proposed better describes Yakone's role as a shaper and contributor to Tarrlok and Amon's wrongful paths to revenge, which also describes the lengths he goes to in order to get revenge, even traumatizing his own children. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 22:44, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:50, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I have to disagree. The current quote clearly states his want for revenge over the Avatar and Republic city. The proposed quote is more like a description of Tarrlok and Amon, not Yakone. They are essentially saying the same thing though, with the proposed one only having Yakone as a secondary focus. The main focus of the quote is towards Tarrlok and Amon. That said, Yakone doesn't get much screen time, but I think there's a better one out there. Ruen (wallcontribs) 02:43, September 19, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Ruen. But in all honesty, I think the current works just fine for Yakone. Even if we used a quote where Yakone says to his children to avenge him, this one states exactly what he wanted. There isn't much more to him that we know, other than the fact that he had this drive for power and revenge over Republic City. That being said, the current is fine as is. Wikia flower siggieMomoam15 Wikia flower siggie 20:39, September 19, 2012 (UTC)

Also worth noting is that the current was said by Yakome himself, but the proposed was said by Tarrlok.TheLoKnessmonster (wallcontribs) 22:00, September 19, 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to have to oppose as well. The current describes his goals, and his ambitions. The proposal just states how it's affected his children. That's more of a Tarrlok or Amon quote. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 00:47, September 20, 2012
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Well, that wasn't approved when I proposed it for Tarrlok and I doubt it even would be approved for Amon. I just think its important because his desire for revenge shaped and was prevalent in his children, which ultimately affected the series. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 00:58, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
You're right, it does say that he shaped his kids and affects the series. It's just it's more of a description of his sons, not him. That's why the current quote suites better, it's him saying it and it's his own personal desire for revenge. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 08:28, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
If you believe this quote is of importance, AvatarTyler, then why not suggest it instead for Tarrlok's realtionships? Specifically for the section on Yakone. I think this quote would have a much better chance, and is a better reprensentation of the relationship between Tarrlok and his father, rather than Yakone himself. Wikia flower siggieMomoam15 Wikia flower siggie 19:55, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
Well, it's already in there. And as long as its revelant, it won't be removed because it's not a profile quote. I just thought... we all know he wanted to take Republic City and his ambitions were promptly shattered when Aang took his bending. This just talks more about his desire for revenge on Aang, which was more important to the series and to him... for the rest of his life. But I see that a problem here seems to be that the quote isn't actually said by Yakone. Should I find a quote said by Yakone, urging his sons to avenge him, and then it can be changed to that instead? AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 00:12, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
I personally think the current fits just fine, and the reason I oppose the proposal isn't simply because it wasn't said by him; the current quote displays the fact that he intended to rule Republic City, and with the "I'll be back one day to claim it" it alludes to the fact that he plans to seek revenge and continue his plans, I think it fits best overall. Annawantimes (Talk) 00:19, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
I personally would like to keep the current because the proposed may be about him, but I feel like the current one expresses him in a desirable way.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  04:27, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
Keep per everyone, because Though Yakone is not a bloodbender anymore, he still wants the power, to avenge and all that evilll stuff. And the fact that, as everyone else has stated, yakone did not say the proposed quote. And the proposed quote isnt even just about yakone, it's about tarlok and noatak. So it wouldn't reflect Yakone. the first one just BAM tells you everything you gotta know about yakone: he is eviilllll Chakrasandwich 邵曦' (wallcontribs)
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The Southern Air Temple Edit

9-22-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||There it is. The Southern Air Temple.|[[Aang]] to [[Sokka]] and [[Katara]].}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||This place used to be full of monks and lemurs and bison. Now there's just a bunch of weeds. I can't believe how much things have changed.|[[Aang]] to [[Sokka]] and [[Katara]].}}

The current quote is simply Aang stating "Look, it's the temple", and has nothing to do with what the episode was really about: Aang's realization that everything has changed. The proposed reflects this concept much better, as it shows that all the things that Aang used to love being around in his home are now gone. Magicboy 10xx Toph-DoBS-2 18:51, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. The Ultimate Waterbender 23:24, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed, per Magicboy --Katara End SpriteHumble (Talk HOA) 23:40, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
I Agree. Per Magicboy --Chilary Jinora-chao1 wall 02:19, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed, per Magicboy. This is one of those quotes that just makes sense to change as it's not really any good. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 04:52, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed per above. Now NOBODY comment on this for the next THREE DAYS! Srijay KTechFilmer 22:40, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed per everyone, because yes I agree that "look there it is!" is not a good reflection of the episode.Chakrasandwich 邵曦' (wallcontribs)

Support per everyone. Wikia flower siggieMomoam15 Wikia flower siggie 21:28, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

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The Headband Edit

9-26-2012 Edit

;Current
{{Quote||He's the one we want! The boy with the headband!|The [[Headmaster]] referring to [[Aang]].}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||Listen guys, those kids at school are the future of the Fire Nation. If we want to change this place for the better, we need to show them a little taste of freedom.|[[Aang]] to [[Sokka]].}}
;Proposed replacement #2
{{Quote||Way to go, dancy pants. I think you really did help those kids, you taught them to be free.|[[Toph]] to [[Aang]].}}

The current one just happens to have the word "headband" but reflects nothing about the episode. It might even be misleading-someone could think that the whole episode was about Aang wearing a headband and being chased or "wanted". But since that's not at all what the episode was primarily about, I think we should change it to either one or two(proposed) since in both, Aang is showing the fire nation "freedom", which I feel reflects the episode much better. It shows Aang in a better light. Aang shouldn't always be portrayed as getting in trouble and being chased by fire nation people.If you summed up the whole episode, you wouldn't say "Aang wore a headband and got in trouble and was chased by the headmaster." You would probably say a variation of "Aang went to school and held a dance party for them to show them that life doesn't always have to be restricted, that you can have fun." thoughts? ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich17:32, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 17:44, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
Haha, yeah, I admit that when I posted a quote for that episode, I chose the current merely because it related to the episode title. xD I agree, though, that it doesn't reflect much about the actual events; I support proposal #1 because it speaks of the school students and Aang's desire to ignite some creative expression in them, which they ultimately achieve through the dance party. The Ultimate Waterbender 18:01, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
1, per above. Pretty self explanatory, funny it took so long. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 18:15, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
sorry ultimate, didn't know you posted that o.o didn't mean to criticize so heartily haha ^_^ but thanks for supporting, I thought number one was better too, since number two doesn't have much ground to stand on and it was just said at the very end ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich
Oh, no need to apologize. =) I admit that it wasn't a well thought-out decision on my part; I just chose it because, as I said before, it referenced the episode title. =S The Ultimate Waterbender 18:22, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
1, per Ultimate and Chakrasandwich Katara Sprite Season 3Humble (Talk HftN) 18:22, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

1 per above Srijay KTechFilmer 18:24, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Proposal #1 per everyone. Magicboy 10xx Toph-DoBS-2 19:03, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
I support number one as well Wikia flower siggieMomoam15 Wikia flower siggie 20:38, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
I also support #1, per Chakrasandwich and Ultimate. Annawantimes (Talk) 00:07, September 28, 2012 (UTC)
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Sneers Edit

9-27-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||We'll break open a new gate for you! Just give us the word!|Sneers offering to help Avatar Aang outside Yu Dao in The Promise Part 1.}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote|| Listen, Smellerbee. Maybe we've been thinking about this all wrong. What if Yu Dao is neither Fire Nation '''nor''' earth kingdom?|Sneers explaining to [[Smellerbee]] his new stance on the [[Harmony Restoration Movement]] in ''[[The Promise Part 3]]''.}}

The current quote does not say much about Sneers at all, only that he's ready to help fight for Yu Dao. However, his position actually does change, and now he supports the movement to keep the Fire Nation citizens in Yu Dao. This new quote shows his point of view, and his personality more. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 03:48, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 04:16, September 27, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. The first quote, as you say, is just him offering to help Aang. Second one is heaps better, also considering it's also more current. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 11:52, September 27, 2012 (UTC)
I was hoping someone was going to propose this! Definitely, this quote much better for him, and is up to date. Well, at least until we read the third comic. Wikia flower siggieMomoam15 Wikia flower siggie 20:38, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Suport per above Srijay KTechFilmer 22:53, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Agree per everyone else, I saw it too and thought it should be changed. good quote(proposed one)! ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich

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Official Avatar Aang Fan Club Edit

9-28-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||It's such an honor, Avatar Aang.|Yee-Li greeting [[Aang]] in [[The Promise Part 2]].}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||I know it's just a silly fan club, but for a moment there, it felt like... like I was at home again. With my people.|[[Aang]] expressing his appreciation to [[Katara]] in [[The Promise Part 2]].}}
;Proposed replacement #2
{{Quote||You already have the hearts of Air Nomads, so I've decided to teach you the ways of the Air Nomads.|[[Aang]] speaking to the fan club in [[The Promise Part 3]].}}
;Proposed replacement #3
{{Quote||We pride ourselves on authenticity! Our members devote as many hours to studying Air Nomad philosophy as you did when you were training!|[[Xing Ying]] explaining to [[Aang]] the foundation of their club in [[The Promise Part 3]].}}

The current quote is simply just one member stating "It's an honor." Now of course if any fan girl were to meet Aang, that would be their reaction. But as a quote for a club, totally devoted to the air nomad ways? It shows no reflection. The ones I have put up either express Aang's gratitude and appreciation for the club, or what the club is based on. Personally, I like the first, simply because it shows how much the club touched him. Some may not agree with the emotional aspect, but that's alright. Anything but the current quote is just fine with me. Wikia flower siggieMomoam15 Wikia flower siggie04:26, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. The Ultimate Waterbender 17:09, September 28, 2012 (UTC)
hmmm, I don't want to be the one who lets your idea down, but I'm not the biggest fan of the first proposed replacement...since I do realize that it shows Aang's appreciation, but...it doesn't say much about the CLUB which is what the page is about. he just felt like he was at home...which i guess puts a very positive feel towards the fan club...I'm not sure how to explain why I just don't think the first one is appropriate for this particular page. again, I understand that it shows his appreciation for the fan club. but the fan club's point was to worship him and be the stereotypical "fan girls" who are obsessed with someone who (previously) did not know they existed. but yes i agree 100% that the current quote should be changed.maybe the second one is good? it has the emotional thing going on with it. I really like the second one. but the third one just sounds kinda like a TV commercial "we pride ourselves on authenticity!!!" or like a costume shop selling or something, not really putting a good feel on the fan club. But my opinion may be quite biased because I really dislike the official avatar aang fan club....so yea listen to other people's opinions also :D ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich
"It's such an honor, Avatar Aang" hardly says anything at all. I'm not sure how this is representative of the fan club. Personally; I find choice #3 to be the best representation of them as it clearly shows the devotion they put toward respecting the culture and learning its ways. Not just fangirling Aang, but literally studying Air Nomad customs. Vulmen (talkEoK) 02:58, September 29, 2012 (UTC)
Agree with Vulmen. The first suggestion is more about Aang's reflection on them, which is fine, but there's better. Second one is basically him saying they should be Air Acolytes since they already think like Air Nomads, again good, but there's better. The third one is actually the better representation because as Vulmen says, it shows just how devoted they are and how much they respect the culture. Aang actually agrees with this statement later, they are respectful and they do take it seriously with a great deal of devotion. It was only because he didn't understand that they were actually telling the truth about how much they do respect his culture that he got angry. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 08:54, September 29, 2012 (UTC)
I support #3 per Vulmen and KFB. #2 is a better representation of when they became the Air Acolytes than when they were still the fan club. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 19:05, September 29, 2012 (UTC)
Now that I look at it, #3 does seem to work better for the club. It was after all, what the club was striving to accomplish (even though some were just silly fangirls). Aang does agree with this statement as Ruen pointed out, so that makes it a great choice. Wikia flower siggieMomoam15 Wikia flower siggie 23:25, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

I like number 3 the most. It is the best representation. SixMoodyDwarves Sokka Sprite Season 1 Voltorb Is Back! Sokka-wolf-c1 21:00, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

My vote goes handsdown to proposal #3. It best represents the organization and its eventual purpose. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 22:19, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Vulmen, #3 works the best of them all. Annawantimes (Talk) 22:38, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
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How Edit

9-30-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||All we need is the Earth King's seal in order to execute the plan|General How to [[Katara]] in "[[The Guru]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||An army with no leader is like a dragon with no head.|General [[How]] to [[Aang]] in [[The Promise Part 3]]}}
;Proposed replacement #2
{{Quote||You know well the cost of war. I ask you to exchange one life for many.|General [[How]] to [[Aang]] in [[The Promise Part 3]]}}


Ok so the first quote is just the general saying"we need a seal so we can do this plan"...doesn't tell anything about the character except perhaps that he always needs to get permission for planning stuff...which isn't really reflective of his character. So I proposed quote 1 and 2, which shows that he is a strong and wise leader who thinks of the greater good(And because I personally like the proverb).Probably the original quote was the best someone could come up with, before the Promise Part 3 came out. So now, two quotes are available that we can use that reflect General How and his good leadership. I'm leaning towards the first one because the second one does kind of show that he is still willing to kill one person...which is not very good. But either one is Ok, so long as it's not the current one.Thoughts? ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 12:26, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

I like number two the best. It represents that How is not only a great leader, but also a wise man. Appa-dobs1HenryJh 98 (BlogsATSWFFF)Appa Sprite 20:40, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

I also agree with proposal number 2. It is the best representation of his character. SixMoodyDwarves Sokka Sprite Season 1 Voltorb Is Back! Sokka-wolf-c1 21:00, September 30, 2012 (UTC)
I support #2 as well; it is the best representation of How's character. Annawantimes (Talk) 22:38, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
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Bosco Edit

10-7-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||Quiet!You don't know what I had to do to get seats this near the bear!|A party guest to a friend in "[[City of Walls and Secrets]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||But now oooh! I wish Bosco were here!|[[Kuei]] to [[Katara]] in ''[[The Promise Part 3]]''.}}
;Proposed replacement #2
{{Quote||Perhaps you're right. Though Bosco seems to like him. I'll hear what he has to say.|[[Kuei]] to [[Long Feng]] in "[[The Earth King]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #3
{{Quote||Believe me, if there was any danger at all, Bosco's animal instincts would sense it.|[[Kuei]] to [[Aang]] in "[[The Crossroads of Destiny]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #4
{{Quote||So, Bosco, according to this encyclopedia, bears hibernate. I have a feeling you're going to be really good at that--you '''love''' sleeping!|[[Kuei]] to Bosco in "[[It's Only Natural]]".}}

Ok so the first one is just saying that some guy had to pay a lot so that he could sit near this bear, and it tells nothing of Bosco. It just shows some impatient guy and his friend who gets annoyed at a bear that is probably spoiled. But that's not all what Bosco is about. He's Kuei's animal guide and friend and so the 3 proposed show this. I'm fine with any of the three proposed, so long as it's not the original. The first one shows Kuei's need for Bosco in Kuei's time of need(that came out weird), and the second one shows that because Bosco liked Aang, Kuei listened to Aang though his "most trusted adviser" advised him not to, showing he trusts his bear then his "most trusted adviser." Than the last one again shows Kuei and Bosco's understanding/attracting(I couldn't find the right word to describe) that lead Kuei to believe that Bosco was good enough to sense danger. Thoughts? Since the bear doesn't talk, our second best option is Kuei. After all, Bosco was Kuei's animal guide.ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:41, October 7, 2012 (UTC)
Hm... well, It's a tie between #1 and #3 for me. #3 represents Bosco as a helpful pet to Kuei, representing him as a bear that is willing to do something. #1 represents Bosco as a lovable bear that Kuei loves. But I don't really remember that quote (I skimmed most of TPP3) but #3 wins out for me, showing that he's more than just a lazy bear. --Plaang1Humble (Talk HftN) 15:47, October 7, 2012 (UTC)
Ugh, #1 is fine, shows his love for Bosco. That said, #2 also shows his trust in Bosco. #3 is well, not exactly a quote we should use since he was actually wrong. It's a tough choice and I'm willing to go with #1 but... then again there's #2. #3 I just think we shouldn't put there since Bosco's next "line" is basically "Huh? Animal what now?" Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 15:54, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

I added a fourth proposal. I personally like this one because it is Kuei talking directly to Bosco and it shows his lazy or spoiled personality. GhostUser (wallcontribs) 16:51, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

I don't mean to be rude or anything, but can you do that? I didn't know you could just add another proposal...but personally I don't think that quote is befitting Bosco. You have to remember what scenario this quote is being put in-Bosco's page. And the quote is supposed to tell something about the character. Maybe it's something wise the character said, or something that defines that character. I don't think the 4th proposed quote is any of the above...but others can disagree. Don't mean to shoot down your idea, I see where your idea is coming from ^_^ ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich
I know you can add more images in AW:PIC, so I assumed the same held here. You can read the comic here. GhostUser (wallcontribs) 01:57, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

1 per all Srijay KTechFilmer 21:26, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Per all? I don't see any consensus... GhostUser (wallcontribs) 21:26, October 7, 2012 (UTC)
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Gommu Edit

10-8-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||Yes, presently that is what I do call home. Took me a while to procure a bush that beauteous.|Gommu proudly showing off his "home" to [[Korra]] in "[[Welcome to Republic City]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||We got benders and non-benders living together down here, but do you see us fightin'? No siree; we've figured out how to harmoniously co-exist.|Gommu explaining his lifestyle to [[Team Avatar (Legend of Korra)|Team Avatar]] in "[[Skeletons in the Closet]]".}}
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The current quote it is not as accurate in his personality, this one shows that he is a nice kind person willing to help with no hatred to benders or non benders, and it also shows a little bit of his funny side too.Sr.Shenanigans (wallcontribs) 21:45, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:13, October 8, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. The proposed shows more of his personality and also has the added element of implying that he is a hobo, as he says they're all living together down there underground. AvatarTylerftw (talk to me) 19:35, October 8, 2012 (UTC)
Support per Tyler. Magicboy 10xx Toph-DoBS-2 19:54, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Per Tyler Srijay KTechFilmer 20:09, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed, it definitely needs to change to the proposed quote per everyone else. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 05:29, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

I support the change, it is definitely a better showing of his personality. SixMoodyDwarves Sokka Sprite Season 1 Voltorb Is Back! Sokka-wolf-c1 19:02, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

I support the change as per the above. TheBigO Fan Bolin sprite Be the leaf 22:13, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Support, per everyone. Chilary Spir-aang-c3 (1) wall 23:17, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
Support. It brings out his personality. That he can be a little funny, per Shenanigans, and also that he likes seeing peace between two different groups; the benders and non-benders. WaterbenderTaikai (Marionette · Parentless) 22:49, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Zuko Edit

10-13-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||I used to think this scar marked me - the mark of the banished prince, cursed to chase the Avatar forever. But lately, I've realized I'm free to determine my own destiny, even if I'll never be free of my mark.|Zuko to [[Katara]] in "[[The Crossroads of Destiny]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||Listen, I know I didn't explain myself very well yesterday. I've been through a lot in the past few years. And it's been hard, but I'm realizing that I had to go through all those things to learn the truth. I thought I had lost my honor, and that somehow my father could return it to me. But I know now that no one can give you your honor. It's something you earn for yourself by choosing to do what's right. All I want now is to play my part in ending this war. And I know my destiny is to help you restore balance to the world.|Zuko, to [[Team Avatar]] in "[[The Western Air Temple]]".}}
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;Proposed replacement #2
{{Quote||I thought I had lost my honor, and that somehow my father could return it to me. But I know now that no one can give you your honor. It's something you earn for yourself by choosing to do what's right. All I want now is to play my part in ending this war. And I know my destiny is to help you restore balance to the world.|Zuko, to [[Team Avatar]] in "[[The Western Air Temple]]".}}
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While watching this episode, recently. I found this quote was the turning point in Zuko's life. It shows his former self was not the true him, and that he has finally found himself. He is having one of the best epiphanys in his life. SixMoodyDwarves Sokka Sprite Season 1 Voltorb Is Back! Sokka-wolf-c1 18:39, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

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I disagree, though not based on your given reasoning. The quote on itself is good. It describes Zuko's place in the show and all that, everything you pointed out is something that would make is a good profile quote. However, why I do feel that we better stick with the current is simply because of its length. The proposed quote is really long, and the current quote also alludes to Zuko's change of heart, but in a way shorter fashion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:59, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

I'm neutral since lady lostris brings a good point, I like the original quote slightly better, but the proposed quote is good also(just to let you know that I don't hate it). Length would be an issue. And the scar is kind of an important symbol in avatar, so I think we should stick with it. But then I like the proposed one for all the reasons you have given...but I'm leaning more towards keep the originalChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 20:28, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

The quote for Four nations is about the same length, and I do not believe that length should be a factor when deciding on new quotes. I believe that if it is a better representation, it should become the quote, length should not dictate your opinions, as you've said. SixMoodyDwarves Sokka Sprite Season 1 Voltorb Is Back! Sokka-wolf-c1 00:52, October 14, 2012 (UTC)
I disagree also. Length is a consideration when it comes to quotes, because it's unbecoming to go to a page only to be suddenly slapped with a wall-of-text quote right at the top of it before getting to the meat of the article. It's been this way for a long time; and only certain pages end up with long quotes even with it being nonpreferable. That said, long quotes are not disallowed by any means, however if there is a better or equal representation on a shorter scale, it can easily earn more favor for being more succinct and to the point rather than rambling on and possibly losing reader interest. Vulmen (talkEoK) 02:19, October 14, 2012 (UTC)
adding on to vulmen, the second quote does kind of make you loose interest, and it does take a while to get to the point. So I'm still not convinced the proposed one is good, unless you can dictate a good reason. Length, I understand, shouldn't be a factor. But it's still important, since you don't want an essay of a quote before you even get to the page.ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 06:55, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

The current quote says basically the same thing. The main problem I see is the fact that he actually doesn't truly understand his place in the world, he's still unsure. As in, by the end of CoD, he's still contemplating what he's done and if it was the right decision. So for that, the current quote fails, but the point he makes still describes him in a brief sentence, since he actually realises what his real destiny is, just took him a while. He was a very confused and torn person for a while there. So, oppose. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 04:22, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


I shortened the proposed. Proposal #2 still conveys the same message, with unneeded information taken out. SixMoodyDwarves Sokka Sprite Season 1 Voltorb Is Back! Sokka-wolf-c1 19:13, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

I still think the current one is better. For years he's been banished and he thought the scar was a mark of his past and a constant reminder of how he's failed. The scar is a pretty important part of who he is for most of the show. It's not until he realises he doesn't have to be marked as his skin is marked, he's free to do what he wants. Since a lot of importance is placed around the scar, I think it should be part of his quote. Not that the proposed (even when shortened) doesn't reflect on his character growth, since it does, it's just that I think the importance of the scar outweighs the message the proposed gives. Especially when it says the same thing. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 21:02, October 16, 2012 (UTC)
I disagree. I think that a much more prevalent characteristic of Zuko is his honor. He is always saying, "I must capture the Avatar to restore my honor," he doesn't talk about his scar as much. He talks all about his honor for all of book one and basically all of book two. SixMoodyDwarves Sokka Sprite Season 1 Voltorb Is Back! Sokka-wolf-c1 19:13, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
Think of it like this. For one, being banished means he has no honor, and that (as stated in the current quote) he has to chase the Avatar to regain it. His scar is a reflection of the scarred life he has had. First his father makes a mockery of him in an Agni Kai, leading him to be banished, having to eventually forsake all ties to the Fire Nation and live as an outcast with Iroh. And through all that, his scar has been there every time, reminding him just how badly he screwed up, in his father's eyes. But now, in CoD, he finally tells someone just exactly how he feels, and that he can in fact change all that. This quote sums up his massive changing point really well. The fact that he no longer is weighed down by his scar and held back. He can do what he wants, choose his own destiny. While true, he says this and actually still is conflicted, that's just a sign of his inner turmoil he was born with. It took him a bit of time, but these words ended up being true and probably the most pivotal moment for Zuko. (Though, LL probably comes close). In fact, the entire quote says everything the proposed does, but more. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 02:29, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

The RunawayEdit

10-15-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||It's a wanted poster. Of you. They've nicknamed you 'The Runaway'.|[[Katara]] to [[Toph]].}}
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{{Quote||The truth is sometimes Katara does act motherly, but that's not always a bad thing. She's compassionate and kind, and she actually cares about me. You know, the real me. That's more than my own mom.|[[Toph]] to [[Sokka]].}}
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{{Quote||It really seems like my whole life, Katara's been the one looking out for me. She's always been the one that's there. And now, when I try to remember my mom, Katara's is the only face I can picture.|[[Sokka]] to [[Toph]].}}
;Proposed replacement #3
{{Quote||They were controlling over you, so you ran away, and now you act like your parents don't exist. You act like you hate them, but you don't. You just feel guilty.|[[Katara]] to [[Toph]].}}
;Proposed replacement #4
{{Quote||The plan is simple: This wanted poster says your worth a lot of money; Ten times more than you've made in all of your scams. So I'm gonna turn you in and collect the reward. Then you metalbend yourself out of jail, and we're on our way.|[[Katara]] to [[Toph]]}}
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The original quote just has "The Runaway" in it, but I don't think it fully explains/summarizes/introduces the episode. I feel that any of the proposed replacements actually show what the episode is more trying to talk about, Toph and her relationship with her parents and also her developing relationship with Katara, and Katara's significance in the team. Thought the last one I put up because I felt that some people might think it describes the episode better because of the scam that would ultimately lead to Toph and Katara's new found friendship. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 23:33, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:38, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Well, this a bit of a tough choice for me. But I'm certain that #2 doesn't really portray Toph's and Katara's relationship during the episode. It's a tie between between 3 and 4 for me. 3 because of how Katara told Toph straight in her face that she indeed loves her parents. 4, although showing the outcome of the episode, doesn't really display anything besides Katara and Toph's plot. After observing the quotes, it's #3 for me. --Plaang1Humble (Talk HftN) 23:46, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

If you look through other episodes you will realise their quotes sum up what happens in the episode, not the underlying message/final resolution. That's why a quote about Toph and Katara's relationship isn't something that should be used. The best way to sum up the episode is that Toph goes off and does scams and gets a name for herself, to which they eventually pull off one too big for them and get caught. Obviously, they escape but that's not the point. See, almost every episode has two parts to it, the actual events, then the underlying outcome. Why tell a story if your not trying to say something? But... you'd be hard pressed to find a quote for every episode that sums up just exactly what the outcome is, so summing the episode up to describe it's main events is much better. Take the previous one you did Chakrasandwich. "The Headband" is about Aang throwing a party right? But the underlying message is that not all Fire Nation are bad, they are just under the "tyrannical" rule of Ozai and a select amount of followers - giving hope to Team Avatar's efforts. In this case, it's about the views of the group on Katara, as they see her as the motherly figure, especially Toph, changing to see that she really just cares about them all. That's why, the quote I choose here is the original. The wanted poster tells the actual story on it's own. P.S. Proposed quote #1 is actually Toph to Sokka, not Katara. :P - Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 01:45, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

...I kind of see what you're trying to say...but I'm a bit confused-are you saying that the one I did before was good or bad, and I have read a lot of quotes for other episodes, and they mostly have things that describe what the episode was truly about and somehow ties together the whole episode(summarizing wise). And I've also realized that some of the quotes are the "turning points" of episodes.I felt that the proposed quotes did a somewhat better job(except of course some of them are doing a better job then the other proposed ones, but that's why I suggested so many so other people could voice their opinions). I just felt that the proposed quote only showed that Toph had a wanted poster-and she was nicknamed the runaway, which doesn't actually say anything about scams...but you give a good argument...ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 04:14, October 16, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm, actually. After going through the episodes it seems that theirs both ones the describe the episode events AND those that describe the underlying message/outcome. It ought to be decided which is in fact the one people want. For example "The Storm" - Do we want it to talk about the events of the episode or do we talk about the underlying message that a war is coming and Zuko and Aang must find their place within this war? Personally, I'd go for the latter. Though then you enter into a territory of subtleties in the quote (though I do like subtleties). Though, as I said, you'd be hard pressed to find quotes for all them. For example, "The Deserter". The current quote is "I serve a man. More than a man really; he's a myth, but he's real, a living legend, Jeong Jeong the Deserter." however isn't the real message behind the episode more to do with Aang (or even Katara)? It isn't about Jeong Jeong. It's about Aang learning about firebending, and Katara learning about healing. It's about... actually... there's more to every episode than first meets the eye (something I actually like to point out when it comes to a, generally fan-hated, "The Great Divide"). It can also be easily stated that the episode is about Jeong Jeong being a deserter, the fact that not everyone in the FN agrees with Ozai's rule. But you could over analyse every episode and come out with multiple meanings behind it, which is probably why it is easier to simply describe the events, not the meanings. I hope that clears your confusion...maybe. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 04:54, October 16, 2012 (UTC)
hehe that kinda cleared up the confusion, you know there really ought to be a set of rules for the quotes...unless there are rules and I don't know about them...that's possible. But I saw The Deserter quote and felt that one could be changed also to the part where Jeong Jeong talks about walking on razor's edge for being a fire bender but the original quote is better in that it describes Jeong Jeong. I think the quote for the fan hated great divide is actually really good because its what the story is trying to say, what the story is about, how you could possibly summarize the story, etc. back to the point, the original quote for this one doesn't even describe the scams...well not directly anyways. Which is why the fourth own would be better if you wanted to put in the quote about the scams. Toph having a wanted poster could be because of many reasons, and her being nicknamed the runaway could be because of many reasons also. The proposed quotes just better clarifies different points...which is why I proposed four because they all talk about different things, though I personally don't think the second one is good, because the episode is in no way related to kya.... And you might also say that the quote doesn't need to be detailed(I'm not saying you would actually say that, I'm just trying to think of all possibilities), it would be better if it was...I think anyways, if it described some aspect of the episode in any of the following ways:summary, turning point, theme, "wise statement", or important line(meaning it had a big impact of some sort)ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich
Not really. One could argue the episode does in fact relate to Kya. Though again, you can over analyse every episode finding many different meanings, as such we should simply stick to events. As for your last point, one can argue the current quote fills all the criteria (except "wise statement" which shouldn't be counted). It sums up the episode by explaining Toph is now wanted, it explains the turning point of going from "It's all fun and games" to "till someone gets hurt". Theme; stating the entire episode revolves around Toph's scams as a whole (of course, there's way more to it than that), and an important line because of all those things mentioned, not to mention, it did have a big impact, since it prompted the entire argument that took place AND eventually leads to the biggest scene of the episode: Katara's scam. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 06:00, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Imo, to make things the easiest, it's better to find a quote that sums up the episode itself as opposed to the underlying message, as the latter is always up for debate. So in that light, I'm sticking with the current one. The first three all have to do with the some of the underlying messages of that episode, and the fourth one is a total spoiler. The episode opens with a moment that leaves you all "wtf?" and it isn't until nearly the end that you find out what happened, so it seems awfully spoilerish to then use a quote that gives away the entire thing. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 06:29, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but then we have other quotes that do actually do everything you put down as reasons to avoid changing this quote. <---... now that's going to be a mouthful O.o Anyway... wait... Lady Lostris is agreeing with me? :O Hehe, kidding. But yeah, Avoiding spoilers and just putting quotes that describe the events within the episode is much better. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 06:43, October 16, 2012 (UTC)
Well, look at that, there are till miracles in the world :-p There will always be occasions where it can't be avoided, as it is -imo- best to have a quote that sums up the episode, but it is better to have a quote summing up the underlying message when a good summing up quote is not available. But in this case, there is one available, so I say that we stick to that. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 06:49, October 16, 2012 (UTC)
I support #3. #2 is a quote purely about Katara, when the plot is more about Toph. The last one would be okay, except it doesn't convey the episode as a whole (i.e., Katara being cautious and motherly)


Aang Cosmic Wan-Shi-Tong-Servant Fanon

White Lotus leader Edit

10-24-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||Ever since you were a little girl, you've excelled at the physical side of bending but completely ''ignored'' the spiritual side. The Avatar must master both.|The White Lotus leader to [[Korra]] in "[[Welcome to Republic City]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||The city is far too dangerous. Avatar Aang tasked us with keeping you safe while you mastered the four elements.|The White Lotus leader to [[Korra]] in "[[Welcome to Republic City]]".}}
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Like lots of minor characters, this leader didn't have a whole abundance of lines. Of the ones he did, I believe that this proposed one shows his personality best. In the current, he talks only about Korra and being the Avatar; no personality. But the proposed shows that he follows his orders, and doesn't take a demand lightly. The proposed also portrays that he doesn't want Korra at risk either. All in all, this proposed quote encompasses the personality of the leader better than the current. WaterbenderTaikai (Marionette · Parentless) 00:59, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. The Ultimate Waterbender 01:04, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
I agree, should be changed. shows more of what the white lotus was about-protecting the avatar.ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich
Agreed. The proposal does a nice job of connecting the leader's role to both Aang and Korra, versus the current which only takes the latter into consideration. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 01:27, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
Support per above. It conveys his role in the Order of the White Lotus better, as it shows the task Aang put him and the group to - keeping Korra safe. Magicboy 10xx Toph-DoBS-2 01:37, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. The new quote actually reflect on him and shows us - somewhat - his personality. The current is just him talking about Korra's lack of spirituality. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 02:48, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 14:41, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

I support the proposal as well. TheBigO Fan Bolin sprite Be the leaf 19:32, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

I think it's pretty obvious here. TheLoKnessmonster Sokka-sprite 01:12, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. The current is not a very good quote. SixMoodyDwarves Sokka Sprite Season 1 Voltorb Is Back! Sokka-wolf-c1 20:13, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Southern Raiders commander Edit

10-26-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||You might be looking for Yon Rha. He retired four years ago.|The Southern Raiders commander to [[Zuko]] and [[Katara]] in "[[The Southern Raiders]]".}}
;Proposed Replacement #1
{{quote||I don't know what you're talking about. Please, I don't know!|The Southern Raiders commander to [[Zuko]] and [[Katara]] when questioned about [[Kya]]'s death in "[[The Southern Raiders]]".}}
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Okay, I know this is a really minor character so it's probably not really worth it, but I wound up on his page and I thought his quote didn't really represent him. That line is just directing the two to Yon Rha's location, whereas the proposed shows that he was not in fact Kya's killer (the point of his character), and that he is scared of Katara and Zuko (a personality trait). So, yeah. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 03:01, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 03:06, October 26, 2012 (UTC)
  1. 2 per ATFF. It represents his character better than the current. --http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/flutflutflyer/KataangSig.png Humble Fanon - Talk 03:10, October 26, 2012 (UTC)
Support, not much to say. Except perhaps maybe Humble Imaginations meant #1? :P But, yeah. The current quote says nothing about him. The proposed shows he is a pretty cowardly man when confronted by Katara. Then again, in the state she was in, you'd be crazy not to be. :P Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 04:49, October 26, 2012 (UTC)
Support per above. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 19:54, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
I support the change; although a minor change in my opinion. SixMoodyDwarves Sokka Sprite Season 1 Voltorb Is Back! Sokka-wolf-c1 20:13, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

The Painted Lady Edit

10-28-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||The Painted Lady. She's part of our town's lore.|[[Dock/Xu/Bushi|Xu]] to [[Team Avatar]].}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||No, I will never, ever turn my back on people who need me! I'm going down to that village, and I am gonna do whatever I can.|[[Katara]] to [[Sokka]].}}
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Currently, the quote says little about the episode's actual events. The Painted Lady is part of this town's lore...and? It's just a statement on a fact, not really anything to do with what happens in the episode - nor saying anything that implies that the Painted Lady helps the village out; could be an evil spirit, given the lack of context. It's more appropriate for the towns page itself, not this episode. Sure, Katara takes on the disguise of the Painted Lady, but the quote doesn't even talk about that. Since the episode is actually about Katara's attitude to help people in need, the proposed quote is much more appropriate. Another way of saying it is if I were to describe the events of this episode in a sentence, I'd say that Katara (of course, with help) helped out a Fire Nation village that was under oppression. Something the proposed quote actually talks about. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 09:04, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 12:11, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, yes, yes. This is a much better quote. Also, that was a lot of explanation. SixMoodyDwarves Sokka Sprite Season 1 Voltorb Is Back! Sokka-wolf-c1 20:13, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Appa Edit

11-14-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||Choose well. A sky bison is a companion for life.|Sister [[Iio]] to the [[Air Nomads|Air Nomad]] kids in "[[Appa's Lost Days]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||I guess this means we'll always be together.|[[Aang]] to Appa in "[[Appa's Lost Days]]".}}
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The current quote is the same one as the one for the the flying bison page for the simple reason that it depict the species as a whole, not Appa in particular. The proposed quote depicts more Aang's feelings toward Appa and the relationship they shared with each other. (The quote was actually changed by ZukoTheViper12007AvatarNo1Fan earlier today. The edit was rightfully undone based on lack of consensus, I do believe that he had a point suggesting this.) Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:52, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion and agreed - CQ is fine for sky bison in general but the PQ is much better in this specific case. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:56, November 14, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm, I coulda sworn there was a better quote... somewhere, I just don't remember where. My mind must be playing tricks on me this late. I agree though. Plus, it is Aang talking to Appa. I'd find it much better if the person (in this case, creature) in question is part of the quote. Makes it more personal. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 18:06, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed, per Lostris, this one shows a bond between Appa and Aang, while the other one is too generic. I declare Shenanigans! (talk) 18:22, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

I support number one. The current one has no relevance to Appa if you are not familiar with the episode. Appa-dobs1HenryJh 98 (BlogsFOTHParallel)Appa Sprite 00:16, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

I support the proposed. It totally shows the tightly woven bond between Appa and Aang. The current is, as mentioned, the flying bison quote; in my opinion, it's too generic and isn't directed to Appa, per Sr. WaterbenderTaikai (Marionette · Parentless) 00:57, November 15, 2012 (UTC)
Support. Like LL said, it makes sense to change the quote to be different from the flying bison quote so it's more personal and centered around Appa's relationship with Aang. Magicboy 10xx Toph-DoBS-2 01:20, November 15, 2012 (UTC)
I'm just going to be weird and oppose even though everybody else is supporting and I want to support, so, OPPOSE! Srijay KTechFilmer 07:05, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Bloodbending Edit

11-23-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||Controlling the water in another body, enforcing your own will over theirs. Once I had mastered the rats, I was ready for the men. And during the next full moon, I walked free for the first time in decades, my cell unlocked by the very guards assigned to keep me in. Once you perfect this technique, you can control anything, or, anyone.|[[Hama]] explaining bloodbending to [[Katara]] in "[[The Puppetmaster]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1
{{Quote||Controlling the water in another body, enforcing your own will over theirs. ... Once you perfect this technique, you can control anything, or, anyone.|[[Hama]] explaining bloodbending to [[Katara]] in "[[The Puppetmaster]]".}}
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The proposed quote isn't an entirely new quote, simply a shortened version of the current quote. The proposed quote is simply "short, sweet and to the point." It describes the nature of bloodbending without the whole narrative of Hama's escape from prison which is merely superfluous information. The ellipse in between the first and last statements, of course, is there to indicate that there was additional content that was removed. The Ultimate Waterbender 16:46, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, and agreed.
Only one remark/question though: shouldn't those "..." be between brackets, so it would look like [...]? Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:34, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
Nods. The ellipse can be put in brackets, so it can be more distinguishable. The Ultimate Waterbender 17:40, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Agree, all that other information about her escape is unneeded for this particular page. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 21:12, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, thank for the answer, Ultimate ^^. But yeah, either way, this is definitely a good proposal. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:17, November 24, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. Being concise is always nice. KettleMeetPotwall 02:03, November 24, 2012 (UTC)
Also agreed. Per Chakra, the whole backstory doesn't really belong there on the bloodbending article. WaterbenderTaikai (Marionette · Parentless) 02:20, November 24, 2012 (UTC)
The backstory does need mentioning on the article (which it is), just not in the quote. Agreed, as KettleMeetPot says, being concise is always nice. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 04:12, November 24, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed per everyone. Shortened one is preferred, as the current proposal just.... has a lot of irrelevant content (about her escape, etc.) Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 08:42, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

Support per everyone. Appa-dobs1HenryJh 98 (BlogsFOTHParallel)Appa Sprite 00:12, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

I'm all for the proposal. The article's about bloodbending, not bloodbending and Hama's escape.SifuHotman90 Zuko-dobs-c7 22:46, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed, as per everyone. ~KinHikari 04:34, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Tarrlok Edit

12-9-2012 Edit

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{{Quote||That's what I admire about you, Korra. Your willingness to go to extremes in order to get what you want. It is a quality we both share.|Tarrlok to [[Korra]] in "[[When Extremes Meet]]".}}
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{{Quote||Your willingness to go to extremes in order to get what you want. It is a quality we both share.|Tarrlok to [[Korra]] in "[[When Extremes Meet]]".}}
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{{Quote||Korra, your willingness to go to extremes in order to get what you want. It is a quality we both share.|Tarrlok to [[Korra]] in "[[When Extremes Meet]]".}}
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It is a bit shorter thus making it more suitable. The beginning IMO is uneeded thus I have removed it. Srijay KTechFilmer 10:24, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I disagree. This is already a short quote, so there is not really an argument to be made for "shorter is better", and I feel like the quote does not make sense without the first part. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:20, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
Per Lady Lostris, the quote doesn't really work if you remove it. Plus there's little need to shorten it here. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 16:23, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
I disagree with the change. The quote is stronger and more connected to the character rapor with the first part included. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 18:00, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
Also disagreeing; no apparent reason for the opening to be chopped; it kind of makes the quote incomplete, per Lady. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:15, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

I changed a period to a comma. does that work no> Srijay KTechFilmer 07:46, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

I stand by the current for my previous reasons as well as per ARG's addendum. There is no need to shorten it. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:49, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

The Revelation Edit

12-30-2012 Edit

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{{quote||I know you have been wondering, 'What is the Revelation?' You are about to get your answer. Since the beginning of time, the spirits have acted as guardians of our world, and they have spoken to me. They say the Avatar has failed humanity. That is why the spirits have chosen me to usher in a new era of balance. They have granted me a power that will make Equality a reality. The power to take a person's bending away.|[[Amon]] to the crowd in "[[The Revelation (episode)|The Revelation]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||I know you have been wondering, 'What is the Revelation?' [...] [The spirits] have granted me a power that will make Equality a reality. The power to take a person's bending away.|[[Amon]] to the crowd in "[[The Revelation (episode)|The Revelation]]".}}
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;Proposed replacement #2:
{{Quote||I know you have been wondering, 'What is the Revelation?' [...] [The spirits] say the Avatar has failed humanity. That is why the spirits have chosen me to usher in a new era of balance. They have granted me a power that will make Equality a reality. The power to take a person's bending away.|[[Amon]] to the crowd in "[[The Revelation (episode)|The Revelation]]".}}
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The proposed quote has the complete explanation, but many of it makes it unnecessarily long, thus I propose to change it for a shorter version of the same quote that only preserves the relevant parts of it. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:16, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 03:26, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
I like the change. I think that it's much better: it gets to the point without the ramble. I completely agree, Lostris. Support for the change. WaterbenderTaikai (Marionette · Parentless) 03:29, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
The change fits well, shorter is better for quote, imo. Support. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Santa Aang Sprite 08:04, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, this shorter version is better. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:21, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Bit more elaboration while still being short. G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! 22:13, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

I like proposal one. Number two is fine, but it's not quite as concise. The line "the spirits have chosen me to usher in a new era of balance" is basically summed up in the next sentence, and quicker too, so there is no need for that. Once you take that out two is essentially the same as one, except for that little remark on the Avatar. I would not consider that to be an issue though, as the Avatar was not a huge part of the revelation. With that said, I go for one. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 18:10, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

The Boiling Rock, Part 1 Edit

1-9-2013 Edit

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{{Quote||You need to regain your honor? Believe me, I get it. I'm going with you.|[[Zuko]] to [[Sokka]].}}
;Proposed replacement #1
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{{Quote||My guess is, they were taken to the Boiling Rock...the highest security prison in the Fire Nation. It's on an island in the middle of the Boiling Lake. It's inescapable.|[[Zuko]] to [[Sokka]].}}
;Proppsed replacement #2
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{{Quote||The highest security prison in the Fire Nation...It's inescapable.|[[Zuko]] to [[Sokka]].}}
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The current quote is rather odd and does not really describe any importance in the episode. It is also quite unspecific. Either of these new quotes seem more fit and gives a better explanation. This is Slash, mission complete! 00:08, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:09, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

I do believe the quotes(for the episode) are to try to sum up an episode best. I like proposal number one, since it sums up the episode nicely. It tells about going to the boiling rock and describes it, so the reader kind of gets the idea that the episode is about them going to the Boiling Rock and trying to escape this "high security prison". It might be better to somehow say who "they" are because someone could get the wrong idea that "they" might be the Fire Nation or Azula or something, and the Fire Nation or Azula going to prison is a good thing (since the "bad guys" are going to prison). ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:45, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Piandao Edit

1-23-2013 Edit

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{{Quote||The sword is a simple tool, but in the hands of a master it becomes the most versatile of weapons. And just as the imagination is limitless, so too are the possibilities of the sword.|Piandao to [[Sokka]] in "[[Sokka's Master]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||The way of the sword doesn't belong to any one nation. Knowledge of the arts belongs to us all.|Piandao to [[Sokka]] in "[[Sokka's Master]]".}}
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Even though Piandao is a master swordsman, he is more than just that. The current quote focuses more solely on the swordmanship than on Piandao himself, thus I propose to change it to a quote that still keeps him tied to the ways of the sword and thus his master swordsmanship side, but also broadens his scope to the rest of the world, thus depicting him as the White Lotus member. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:59, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 20:35, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Tough choice, the current does depict the master swordsman he is. But after reading Lady Lostris's argument, I do think the proposed is more appropriate. Support. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:17, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Sokka's sword Edit

1-23-2013 Edit

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{{Quote||Your sword must be an extension of yourself. So tomorrow, you will make your own sword.|[[Piandao]] to [[Sokka]] in "[[Sokka's Master]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||Do you think we can make a sword out of a meteorite‌?" <br /> "We'll make a sword unlike any other in the world.|[[Sokka]] and [[Piandao]] in "[[Sokka's Master]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #2:
{{Quote||We'll make a sword unlike any other in the world.|[[Piandao]] to [[Sokka]] in "[[Sokka's Master]]".}}
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Every sword made by Piandao is meant to be an extension of the person wielding it, thus it does not define Sokka's sword. However, the proposed quote does allude to the uniqueness of Sokka's sword and thus it seems more fitting to me. Proposal two is just a shorter version, limited to Piandao's quote if people thinks the other one is too long. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:07, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I kind of lean toward one; it puts an extra emphasis on just how unique the sword was. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 20:35, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
I agree, the first proposed is much better in depicting that it isn't just any sword (in which case we could make Piandao's sword page or something) but it is a sword that is made of a meteorite. Unique in every way and special just to Sokka, so in conclusion, the first proposed is best. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:09, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Canyon guide Edit

1-23-2013 Edit

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{{Quote||They're coming back for me! They've had a taste, and they're coming back for me!|The [[canyon guide]] talking about [[canyon crawler]]s in "[[The Great Divide]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:	
{{Quote||The job's much more than bending, kid. Folks want information.|The [[canyon guide]] to [[Aang]] in "[[The Great Divide]]".}}
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The current quote does show off a bit of the canyon guide's personality, but it sounds kind of odd to be the quote that shows who he is as a character, and it is also a bit odd out of context. The proposed isn't great, but it does speak about the canyon guide's job, and it explains that he knows his job well. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 23:09, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. The Ultimate Waterbender 23:26, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
Proposed is better than the current at least indeed, so I agree with the change. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:25, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I agree that the proposed is much better. It depicts his job (hence the second word, job) much better. I don't remember him as being the guy who was chased by canyon crawlers, but as the canyon guide. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:06, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Headmaster Edit

1-23-2013 Edit

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{{Quote||That's what any mother would say, ma'am. Nonetheless, you're forewarned. If he acts up one more time, I'll have him sent to reform school ... by which I mean the coal mines. Are we clear?|Headmaster to [[Sokka]], [[Katara]], and [[Aang]] in "[[The Headband]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #1:
{{Quote||If he acts up one more time, I'll have him sent to reform school ... by which I mean the coal mines. Are we clear?|The headmaster to [[Sokka]], [[Katara]], and [[Aang]] in "[[The Headband]]".}}
;Proposed replacement #2:
{{Quote||Mr. and Mrs.... Fire, your son has been enrolled here for two days and he's already causing problems. He's argued with his history teacher, disrupted music class, and roughed up my star pupil.|The headmaster to [[Sokka]] and [[Katara]] about [[Aang]] in "[[The Headband]]".}}
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal #1 will be the new profile quote.
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The current quote is a bit... odd. The "That's what any mother would say ma'am. Nonetheless you're forewarned." sounds odd without hearing Katara's quote beforehand. One proposal is the same one with the odd part cut out, and the second is a different one altogether. I'm leaning toward the second one because it shows his position and his strictness, but the first shows more of his cruelty/harshness. Thoughts? Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 00:27, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I lean toward #1; the headmaster was definitely a hard-nosed man who had zero tolerance for troublemakers - "Maintaining order and discipline" - so I think that proposal shows this more than the #2. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 00:37, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with PSU on this one. Srijay KTechFilmer 00:38, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I like one also because I feel it depicts his strictness well, and I agree that it needs to be changed since you won't know what he's talking about without having known about the dialog before. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:03, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Surrender of Omashu Edit

2-2-2013 Edit

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Current
"And there is no more 'Omashu'. I'm renaming it in honor of my father, the city of New Ozai."
— Princess Azula to the governor of New Ozai after the capture of Omashu in "Return to Omashu".
Proposed replacement #1
"The day of the invasion, we readied ourselves for battle. We were prepared to defend our city... to fight for our lives and for our freedom. But before we even had a chance, King Bumi surrendered."
— Captain Yung to Aang in "Return to Omashu".

The current quote isn't too bad, but it only seems more like a statement of the battle's aftermath. The proposed is more of a description of what happened during the battle itself, a fantasic summary in just two short sentences. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:18, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion and I support the change; the proposal provides a much more relevant and detailed account of the event. The Ultimate Waterbender 17:21, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
Support the change also for the given reasons. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 19:48, February 2, 2013 (UTC)