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Approved proposals

Skoochy

5-9-2012

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File:Skoochy.png|Proposed replacement #1
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Skoochy1.png|Proposed Image #2
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In series screencap and head on. He's also donning a somewhat sly expression as well, which is very representative of his character. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 22:49, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I agree, per Spout. Dcasawang1wall 17:55, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

I added another image. Proposed image #1 isn't even from "The Revelation". I'm not sure where Water Spout found it. Proposed image #2, however, is from the episode. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 18:15, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
I just realized that proposed replacement #1 is cropped anyway. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 18:20, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
I prefer #1, the lighting is a bit better and it is closer up. Proposal #2 is from a bit further distance, and it shadows the top of his face a bit. Annawantimes (Talk) 21:49, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
It is from the episode. The cap was taken at 06:06 at half speed. And I don't see the problem in cropping. Most of the character profile images we use are cropped to focus in on the subject anyways. It even states in the image policy that images are only to be submitted in their original ratio when they cannot benefit from cropping. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 01:48, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
I definitely support #1. It's a better shot of his face. In #2, the top of his face is darkened and he appears more menacing than he actually is, unlike his simple sly/mischevious look in #1. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 21:33, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed, #1 is the most suitable image. The Ultimate Waterbender 15:42, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
Definitely #1, per everyone. —Random Ranaun (Talk to me!) 04:58, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal #1 is the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Tahno

5-9-2012

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Tahno2.png|Proposed replacement #3
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korra_tahno_260.png|Proposed replacement #5
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tahno4.PNG|Proposed replacement #6
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Tahno_scaled-1.png|Proposed replacement #7
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File:Tahno-1.png|Proposed replacement #8
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I'll be the first to admit that neither are the best photos ever.But you get a good view, he's wearing his regular clothes and the expression on his face reflects his personality.Yz2907 (wallcontribs) 00:57, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I disagree, the profile image should show the character alone, and there may be a scene like that in next episodes. Dcasawang1wall 17:55, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
I also disagree with the change. I'm sure we will see more of Tahno soon anyway. Also, the expression on his face in the proposed images is somewhat awkward. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 18:18, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

I added another image. Gordan3 was the one who found it. It has better resolution and he's the only one in the picture, but the look on his face is a bit awkward. Yz2907 (wallcontribsquotes) 19:57, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
None of Tahno's current appearances have provided us with a suitable profile shot, so let's wait till at least after the next episode like the waiting rule prescribes to see if suitable images become available. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:06, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with the newest - number 3 - proposal. It shows his character and is of good quality. Matey Y. (wallA:TLoM) 21:06, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
Proposal 3 is the best. It has a good quality as well. - Darkchylde Talk10:37,5/11/2012
I suppose number three is best, but at the same time we've seen Tahno in his day-to-day clothes, and his pro-bending uniform is not his usual outfit... MibuWolf 13:46, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
Honestly, none of these are good proposals. We should wait until tomorrow's episode airs. I'm sure we will have a better shot of Tahno then. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 19:58, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
I think we have some decent choices from the episode we have now, but still, we're not going to all agree on one by tomorrow, when more choices will come into play. I'll hold off on taking a side until then. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 21:20, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

I found another image. It has good quality and I think it's a decent option for the image. Yz2907 (wallcontribsquotes) 23:21, May 13, 2012 (UTC)
I like #5. I just wish we could see a bit more of his arm. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 01:45, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
5 would be great, but yes, it's a little too zoomed out. Would it look better cropped? For right now, my support lies in #2. The Ultimate Waterbender 15:42, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

I cropped it for you. Yz2907 (wallcontribsquotes) 18:45, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
The cropped version looks great. I'm all for #6. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 20:58, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
My only problem with the sixth image is that it's smaller than the infobox size. If someone could upload it with the proper ratio, I'd support it. --I'm The Bos Wall 21:10, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

I cropped it to 444x250, more zoomed in than number 5... Is this better? (note, I also edited out his hand, which was awkwardly barely there. I hope that's okay...) MibuWolf 23:19, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
I'm thinkin' after this week's episode we won't be seeing much of him any more. Replacement #6 is my favorite. DesertDog (wall) 04:27, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
Since Tahno won the tournament, I think it's fitting for him to be pictured wearing it. Plus, he's not as cool as he looks in proposal #6. ~Mensasai

#8 is a definite no as it conceals too much of his face. Not to mention his rather awkward expression. I'd go for #6. Axiovatar Talk 09:04, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
It isn't about showing his face (ie. Amon), it's about accurately representing his character, and so far, the majority of his screen time has been of him in his pro-bending gear (what he is best known for). His face being awkward is part of his character. --Mensasai (wallcontribs) 09:11, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
It is all about the clarity of characters' facial expression, as this serves to represent the character's typical personality; clothings come second in consideration. We have no choice with Amon as his face is deliberately concealed throughout the series (so far), therefore this example is clearly unsuitable in this case. Tahno was displayed as a sly, malicious and equally arrogant character, notably his habit of mocking and disparaging others to his amusement. The awkward expression in #8 conveys nothing of the mentioned characteristics. Axiovatar Talk 12:32, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to have to support proposed image #8. Yes, he is wearing his pro-bending uniform, but he is known for being a pro-bender, so... Also, the "awkward" expression on his face is perfect for his character. Lastly, his face doesn't give a completely "evil" look, and we now know from the episode 7 preview that he isn't an "evil" guy. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 12:39, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
I like #6 User:DontDenyZutara
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal #6 is the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Iroh

5-13-2012

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I believe that we should change Iroh's image. The current image shows him wearing his White Lotus uniform, which he only wore once in the entire series. In addition, his expression is very stern. The proposed image, however, has Iroh in Earth Kingdom clothing, which he wore for much of Book 2, and has him smiling, which is much better in representing his gentle personality. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 00:36, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Dcasawang1wall 18:54, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
Horrible. He looks like a hobo. His overall look is hardly representative of his personality. ― Thailog 20:51, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
I oppose this change, for the same reasons as Thailog. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 20:59, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
Per Thailog, I'm against the change. Annawantimes (Talk) 21:13, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
You guys really don't like the proposed? Doesn't the current feel too dark/brooding for Iroh though? DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 00:08, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

I still like proposal #1 the most, but since you guys seem to not like it, I have added another proposal. I just think the current picture needs to change... It is not the Iroh that most fans know. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 01:21, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
I'm for chaanging Iroh's profile--he's wearing his OWL uniform in the current, first of all, the lighting is bad, and he has a "I'm gonna kill you" look on his face. Proposed one is better than the current, but still not a good profile image. For now, I support one (2's just horrible), but if someone could find a better image, that would be much better.Firelordazula signatureAzula sprite23TeeAzula Sprite 01:36, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed, DarkKnight and Firelordazula. Iroh's character and integrity shone beautifully through this "riches to rags" phase. Both proposals are better than the current. The third one involves tea- Iroh's trademark- which, against my artistic side complaining that the light is bad, wins out. What we really should get, though, is a picture of him in The Jasmine Dragon, whether pre-SC or post. Either that, or have a shot of him smiling and being funny during the first season. The current picture doesn't do his personality justice at all. Wan-Shi-Tong-Servant (wallcontribs) 01:41, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
I went through every episode in seasons 1 and 2 tonight, and proposed #1 was the best thing I could find. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 01:46, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
Personally, I think the current is better than the proposals. He's wearing his OWL uniform and he's clean shaven. Mostly the clean shaven. His facial hair is his "usual" in the current, as he was hiding out in the Earth Kingdom in the proposals, and he has the topknot, which he also cut off while hiding out in the Earth Kingdom. As far as showing Iroh's appearance, the current does a much better job than any proposed image from the time when Iroh was hiding in Ba Sing Se. "Riches to rags" is all fine and such, but it only shows one time in his life... MibuWolf 01:48, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure what about the beard is throwing you off. His face looks exactly the same. He doesn't even have dirt on his face, or dark circles under his eyes. What do you guys think of this screenshot? http://piandao.org/screencaps/ep15/ep15-136.png Or this one? http://piandao.org/screencaps/ep15/ep15-1030.png Wan-Shi-Tong-Servant (wallcontribs) 02:17, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
What I'm saying about the beard is that his usual facial hair is the goatee thingy with the sideburns, while his beard in season two (and the two proposals) was just kind of over-grown and not his usual appearance. Per Thailog, kind of hobo like... As far as the season one screen caps go, the second one would be pretty good if it were a higher quality image... At the same time, as of the end of the series I don't think it's best to see him in his Fire Nation uniform, rather the OWL uniform suits him better... MibuWolf 02:29, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
http://piandao.org/screencaps/ep59/ep59-695.png http://piandao.org/screencaps/ep59/ep59-741.png Wan-Shi-Tong-Servant (wallcontribs) 02:45, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Iroh looks too angry in the current one. #3 is from the scene where he's talking to everyone at the camp about serious matters. --Mensasai (wallcontribs) 09:36, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
I'll definitely put my support with proposed image #3, it is a much clearer and more detailed shot than the current one. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 12:33, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
Do either of you two like the images in the links I just listed? I'd like to submit them for consideration, as they are O.W.L. Iroh, and he doesn't look so angry. The article already has a ton of images, though, eighty-five, so would they even be accepted or kept? The policy says to avoid submitting too many pics to an article. Wan-Shi-Tong-Servant (wallcontribs) 16:47, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
I don't find anything really wrong with the current image. I don't think he looks angry in the image; he just has a determined smile on his face. The current is representative of his position on the OWL, is clear and the best of the choices, in my opinion. The Ultimate Waterbender 17:08, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I'm taking a stance here. The image approved for discussion was only #1—not #2 or #3, and definitely not any other linked elsewhere. #1 was approved because, despite not being ideal in my opinion, it did adhere to the profile image conventions so I allocated the burden of choice to the community. However, two of those linked images contravene our conventions (in one Zuko is standing next to Iroh, and on the other Iroh is looking up with other people standing around him), and those would definitely be rejected if proposed. The discussion here pertains only to #1, and if that doesn't pass, then everyone will have to wait till discussion is closed and they can resubmit a new proposal with new pictures. People need to start doing some research and picking up every possible prospective replacement before making a proposal, instead of just throwing one they like and then add new ones when they see that consensus is not pending their way.
And per The Ultimate Waterbender, there is nothing wrong with the current one. ― Thailog 17:13, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
Thailog, if we were to do that, it would take weeks for a consesus to be reached. And as for the shot, why wouldn't you take the opportunity to make the page better? Nothing we are doing is hurting the wiki or against the rules, we are making improvements. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 17:23, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
In that case the blame would be placed on the proposer who didn't do his/her homework to find all possible replacements before making the proposal. The fact is that proposals, i.e. images, need to be approved, and the ones added posteriorly were not approved. That's sidestepping the whole process. And waiting "weeks before consensus could be reached" wouldn't hurt the wiki either, but constant shift in discussions per new inclusion does get muddy and hard to follow. It basically resets the entire debate, possibly allowing unsuitable images to go through because the participants' opinions concern only to the images that were added before they gave their input. They may not keep track on the debate afterward, not realizing new images were added and thus not voicing their opinion on them. Imagine that three images are proposed and there is a 5-3 oppose vote. New images are added but only two of those opposers object, leaving a 2-3 consensus, in favor of the change, while if all 5 opposers had known new images had been added, they might have opposed as well. Result: one of the images added after the original proposal will replace the current one when not everyone involved knew they were up for consideration. Sidestep. ― Thailog 17:39, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
But someone tried to propose the newest image in a new proposal, and it got rejected because there was already a discussion for that character going on. Then it was added to the current list. How would we avoid that again? DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 18:08, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
Let's move this discussion to the talk page. I'll elaborate on this shortly. ― Thailog 18:20, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
Um, where are we moving? Your talk page, Thailog? I didn't go ahead and upload those two pictures for the very reason that I was unsure about them. /o_o\' Also, I wasn't randomly throwing out images. The disagreement is between (a) Iroh being out of character and (b) his facial hair in conjunction with wearing his O.W.L. uniform. Therefore, I searched for compromises between the two polarized desires of several of the commentors (i.e., that would satisfy both sides.) Sorry if I did something wrong. http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wan-Shi-Tong-Servant/signature (wallcontribs) 00:44, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
Here. ― Thailog 00:47, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Urg, speaking of "doin it rong," I'm having signature display issues. *headdesk* User:Wan-Shi-Tong-Servant/signature (wallcontribs) 00:52, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
Anyway, I think we should go with proposed image #3. He doesn't "look like a hobo", and its just much brighter than the current. 204.144.15.29 19:37, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

I still support the current image. I think it's fine as it is. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 22:24, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Now wait just a spiritbending second. "This proposal has been rejected, because There is currently an image proposal discussion about Iroh." Didn't we JUST establish, after a long and involved debate, that new images can be added during discussions? Who made that edit to the proposal box I submitted? And how is proposal #4 "a highly atypical shot of him", when the current image is a highly atypical portrayal of his overall attitude, as many people have noted? User:Wan-Shi-Tong-Servant/signature (wallcontribs) 08:19, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, new images can be added during the debate. To do so, one posts the new images down here where the debate is taking place, rather than making a new proposal altogether in the current proposal section. The image marked #4 up above is atypical because he's in the middle of eating, with chopsticks and everything. I didn't mention it in my rejection, but I should note that #5 is not a shoulder-shot like some of the other alternatives, which is a better format for profile images. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 08:26, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
I agree. ― Thailog 11:40, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
"To do so, one posts the new images down here where the debate is taking place, rather than making a new proposal altogether in the current proposal section." But don't new images have to be approved before they're added to the discussion? I thought that was the whole beef you had in the first place, Thailog. I can crop #5, if you want? I still stand by #4, too, because Iroh loves both his drink and his grub. :P Cue quotes about roast duck. (which hopefully isn't turtle-duck.) User:Wan-Shi-Tong-Servant/signature (wallcontribs) 20:57, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
I feel as though at this point, we should just change the image to proposal #3. It has he same setup/outfit as the current, but is much clearer, has better lighting, and shows Iroh without that serious expression. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 21:58, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Current image will not be changed.
Please do not edit this discussion.


Piandao

5-13-2012

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I propose that we change Piandao's image. The current is far too close to his {C face, while the proposed shows much more of his body. Also, the slight upward {C angle in the proposed makes it appear as though he is looking down at us, as {C a teacher would. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 17:15, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Dcasawang1wall 19:21, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
I disagree with the change. Although it's a full body picture, it's too far away and too blurry for my liking. KataraLover Katara-chao1 19:59, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
If you click it, it isn't blurry at all. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 21:16, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
I oppose this change. The old one is fine as it is. It's clearer. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 21:20, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
I prefer the current; it has better color quality, it's closer up, and Piandao's features can be more clearly made out. The proposal is also a bit dark, and too far away from the camera. Annawantimes (Talk) 21:29, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

I have added one more image for consideration. The current image just bugs me >.> Maybe it's because his head is cut off... DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 00:17, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
The current image bothers me a bit, but it seems to be the best out of the choices we have, at least in terms of color, lighting, angle, and overall quality. Milkncookies11 (wallcontribs) 21:10, May 13, 2012 (UTC)
I really don't think that a change even needs to be considered. The current one is perfect: it shows his face, the lighting is excellent, what everyone else has said. Besides, as far as showing his full body, there are plenty of other pictures on the wiki that show his outfit, and the main image does not need to show a lot of his body. MibuWolf 00:25, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
Per Annawantimes. Despite being relatively close-up, the current image has better lighting and detail than the proposed images. Axiovatar Talk 09:22, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
A change is not necessary. The current image is fine. AteldaKony 2012 23:51, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
I think we don't really need to change the pic. Acer Indonesia(talkAPhoa) Aang Sprite Season 3Korra Sprite-01 00:27, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Before any final decision is made, I have added one last proposal. This one is bright, clear, and shows his entire head/shoulders, as well as part of his sword. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 01:18, May 13, 2012 (UTC)
I still think it unnecessary. This is the second time that I have used that quote when arguing on a given proposal, but it is so true - "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." It's as simple as that. Matey Y. (wallA:TLoM) 02:23, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

I recropped #3 to be 250px. I think #4 is a tighter image of him with his sword still visible. Icon_biggrin.gif What do you think? — Hasdi Bravo • 02:30, May 13, 2012 (UTC)
I prefer proposal #3. It's close enough to show his face off yet still has a bit of his clothing, and has a less cluttered background than the current. Proposals 1 and 2 are too dark and cluttered, #4 is tighter than I'd like. DesertDog (wall) 03:32, May 13, 2012 (UTC)
Proposal #3 is wonderful. I love being able to see his sword. Yet it's not an action shot, so it clearly displays his calm demeanor. I think most will remember this scene, with Sokka's "creative" drawing, as a major Piandao "moment." The original, I can hardly recognize as Piandao at all, and it has odd composition, with the two different perspective walls on either side, and half his forehead missing. Wan-Shi-Tong-Servant (wallcontribs) 04:29, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
I'm still on my way, current. If there is no any mistake, error, or something that need to change, we still don't need to change it. Let's see: The current picture is brighter, has more color, perfect angle and lighting, so... Oppose this proposal. Per ARG. Acer Indonesia(talkAPhoa) Aang Sprite Season 3Korra Sprite-01 15:07, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
DarkKnightRises, I think proposal #3 is more well received than the others. May I suggest you withdraw #1 and #2 and I withdraw #4? That way, we can focus the discussion on the current image and proposal #3, which I also like as the top-knot and his trademark sword are visible. Icon_thumbup.gifHasdi Bravo • 15:14, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
I see no reason to take any of these proposals -- the current is focused fine as is and shows his stern, teaching personality very well. Katara and Bolin Fanboy Send me a messenger hawk Katara Sprite Season 3Bolin sprite 15:51, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
I have gotten rid of the other shots. And I must disagree with anyone that says the current image is fine. The shot cuts off a large portion of his head, and is extremely close up. The proposed image is brighter, allows for his entire head/shoulders to be seen, and shows his sword. It's just an all-around better image. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 16:58, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
I still support the current image. The lighting is better on his face, its a good enough distance view and I really don't see the necessity to showing the top of his sword in the picture. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 21:01, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
I think it is important to show top of a head, which the current image is lacking. I can live without the sword though. — Hasdi Bravo • 01:47, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
Refer to DarkKnight's comment. The site's own image policy states, "Extreme facial closeups should be avoided." Q.E.D. Wan-Shi-Tong-Servant (wallcontribs) 01:48, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
#4 is just...beautiful. --Mensasai 09:32, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
#4 is a pretty picture, yes, but is too dark overall. I still support proposed image #3. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 12:35, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

#5 is brighter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mensasai (wallcontribs) This note was added on ~~~~~.


I still think that shot is kind of cluttered. I still support #3. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 13:34, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
  1. 5's lighting is better than the others Zutarashipper (wallcontribs) 06:26, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
If I had to vote now I would go with proposal 3. It has the best representation of his complexion and shows the hilt of his sword.The Youth Counselor (wallcontribs) 23:27, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Image will not be changed.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Fire Ferrets cosplayers

5-13-2012

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PNG format, better lighting, and better scene. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mensasai (wallcontribs). This note was added on 04:51, May 15, 2012 (UTC).

Approved for discussion; and some good reasoning as well. Vulmen (talkEoK) 04:51, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with the improved lighting. Wait, why does this article exist in the first place? :| Axiovatar Talk 05:41, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with the change. The lighting is 10x better. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 12:43, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
My full support for the change. The Ultimate Waterbender 17:08, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed, better lighting and it also portrays their enthusiasm for the Fire Ferrets. Annawantimes (Talk) 01:42, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal #1 is the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

White Falls Wolfbats

5-16-2012

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File:Tahno and the Wolfbats.png|Proposed replacement #2
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Besides this is their most recognizable appearance (since the wolbat masks have been seen only in the tournament final), the proposed image shows the members' faces and as a pro-bending team. Dcasawang1wall 01:29, May 16, 2012 (UTC)


I added proposal #2, which is of higher quality, and I feel it better represents the overall personality of the team. —Random Ranaun (Talk to me!) 01:56, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
Approved for discussion. Either one is way better than the current. I'll go with #2 for now. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 02:43, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I added the image with them in the masks. I agree to the proposals, though. And sorry for the trouble. Curly-BraceXD (wallcontribs) 03:13, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
No need for an apology, Curly-Brace; if there was nothing at all there, the masked pic is better than nothing. I like proposed #3 best, though. DesertDog (wall) 04:11, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
^Don't you mean #2? :) I support it as well. Axiovatar Talk 04:24, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
The #2 for me -- it portrays their pre-Equalist-strike attitude well...cocky, self-absorbed...yeah. Katara and Bolin Fanboy Send me a messenger hawk Katara Sprite Season 3Bolin sprite 04:58, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
I agree that #2 is the best; the more relaxed shot shows their overall attitude better than when they are poised to begin a match and rather focused and tense. Monkeyfeathers94 (wallcontribs) 05:03, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
I support proposed image #2. It is much clearer, and shows their cocky side. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 13:32, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
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The Spirit of Competition

5-16-2012

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File:Fire Ferrets huddled together.png|Current image
File:Bolin encouraging Mako and Korra.png|Proposed replacement #1
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There isn't really something wrong with the current image, but I feel that it doesn't really portray the feel of the episode well. The episode was about competition, both in the pro-bending as romantically. The proposed image better portrays that side of the episode, as Korra and Mako clearly show issues toward each other and Bolin is sort of left out -which was eventually also the case on the romance level. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:26, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. ― Thailog 18:32, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
I support the proposal, per LL. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 22:29, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
Me too. ― Thailog 22:37, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
Same here. Tho they did made up at the end of the episode, instead of looking all dejected like they did in the proposed image. I'm fine with either one. Axiovatar Talk 10:49, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
I also support the proposal. As Lady Lostris said, it seems to be more appropriate for the theme of the episode. Milkncookies11 (wallcontribs) 00:05, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Absolute, per Lostris. Annawantimes (Talk) 04:52, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

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And the Winner Is...

5-16-2012

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File:Amon at the Pro-bending Arena.png|Current image
Amon speeching in the Arena.png|Proposal #1
File:Equalist airship above Arena.png|Proposed replacement #2
</gallery>

The current image is just an incredible closeup of Amon and shows nothing but his face and the only thing we can deduct from that image is that he appeared in the episode. For those reasons I suggest we change the image to something that tells us a bit more about the episode. Both suggestions are HD images that portray Equalist action at the Pro-bending Arena, which was basically what the episode was about. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:30, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. And I like the proposal #1 better. Dcasawang1wall 16:35, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with a change, just a matter of which image to pick. Proposal #1 shows Amon again booming his "Revolution" business all through the arena, a pretty large-scale warning for all Republic City to pick. Proposal #2 is just the airship floating over the arena...meh, does not have the same powerful effect of #1. So, #1 for me. Katara and Bolin Fanboy Send me a messenger hawk Katara Sprite Season 3Bolin sprite 16:38, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
I don't really have a preference. I included the second one to move away from the more or less always the same "Amon is speeching" images. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:39, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
I prefer #1 as well, for exactly the same reason as PSU. Monkeyfeathers94 (wallcontribs) 16:42, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

As a note, shouldn't the second image be named "Amon speaking in the Arena", not "Amon speeching in the Arena"? ~Mysteria Femina~ (wallGirl Genius talk) 17:18, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Why would that be necessary? Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:20, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
I support proposal #1. The current image looks like someone was trying to take a picture of the Arena and Amon decided to photobomb. In addition, proposal #1 is very nice in that we can see the Equalist flags hanging in the background, symbolizing, in my opinion, that Amon was the "winner" of this episode. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 22:32, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
I'm for proposal #1 as well. It certainly makes Amon look more the winner, at least for the moment. The current looks more like a mugshot. DesertDog (wall) 23:11, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
Per DarkKnightRises. #2 doesn't really tell much about the episode. Axiovatar Talk 10:55, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
Since everyone agrees that #1 is best, I think we can end this discussion and change it now. --Mensasai (wallcontribs) 14:22, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
Even when everyone seems to be in agreement, we will only close dicussions when there have been three days without a new opinion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:23, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
  1. 1 has got my vote! Better quality, better reflects events than a close-up of Amon. CrimsonShogun (wallcontribs) 11:56, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
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Metalbending Police Force

5-17-2012

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File:Metalbender cop.jpg|Current image
File:Metalbending Police Force.png|Proposed replacement #1
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Metalbending Police Force Proposal 2.png|Proposed replacement #2
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The last proposal was not accepted, since it was featuring just one police officer. This time, however, there are two in the picture and more in the background. They are also seen on mission, and that represents their purpose. The picture is of a higher quality and is also from an episode, so I see it as a perfect fitting. Thank you. Matey Y. (wallA:TLoM) 02:36, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 02:43, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
I am unfortunately against the proposal. It's dark, and it doesn't really show the metalbending aspect of the METALBENDING Police Force. Hopefully we get some better shots soon. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 13:24, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
The current has nothing to do with metalbending either. Plus, the proposed one uses correct ratio - 444 by 250 pixels, where as the current does not, and is, in fact, quite too large. Matey Y. (wallA:TLoM) 21:01, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with the proposal. There's nothing wrong with it and it shows them doing their job. The 888th Avatar (talk) 07:01, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
As per DarkKnightRises, I have the same doubts about the picture. But I'm fine with it replacing the current image. Axiovatar Talk 08:48, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
Now that the new episode is out, I'll try to get another picture to upload, but that won't happen any earlier that tomorrow. Matey Y. (wallA:TLoM) 16:05, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
Per Matey Y, I think we should hold off on this discussion until a few more shots from today's episode are added. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 00:26, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

I have added a new proposal, and I am changing my vote to it, seeing that the officers are in a battle stance, and the lighting is better. Matey Y. (wallA:TLoM) 19:58, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
I prefer proposal #2. Dcasawang1wall 21:31, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
Finally! Proposal #2 is definitely the image to pick. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 22:07, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
I like #2. It shows all of them, and they look like they're ready to fight, and/or catch some criminals. 76.167.204.201 13:57, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
I also like #2. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 16:24, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal #2 is the new infobox image.
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Naga

5-18-2012

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File:Naga.png|Current image
File:Naga_01.jpg|Proposed replacement #1
File:Naga_panting.png|Proposed replacement #2
File:Naga8.jpg|Proposed replacement #3
File:Naga_9.jpg|Proposed replacement #4
</gallery>

Well this turned out to be a much bigger proposal than I intended. I think that we should start trying to get rid of the concept art on profiles. And I also think that in the current she looks a little bit stiff. I think that either one or two is my favorite. Yz2907 (wallcontribsquotes) 21:55, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. ― Thailog 00:36, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
I disagree with this change. Even though we need to get away from using images not from episodes, I don't think we have any suitable options here. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 00:46, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

I like number 2. It depicts a happy-go-lucky Naga, and is a rather good depiction of her, happy, and with a dog-like expression. I don't see why not too. :) 76.167.204.201 05:28, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

Still like Lostris do frequently, I prefer the current. More brighter, not blurry, perfect angle and I guess, we still need to wait more episodes for take the great shot of Naga. Acer Indonesia(talkAPhoa) Aang Sprite Season 3Korra Sprite-01 12:08, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
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Katara

5-18-2012

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File:Katara smiles at coronation.png|Current image
File:KataraNEW.png|Proposed replacement #1
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I propose a change to Katara's profile image. There isn't anything particularly wrong with the current, but I'd rather see an image of Katara in the style of which we saw her for most of the series. The proposed image shows her with her "hair loopies", and in traditional Water Tribe garb. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 13:24, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Dcasawang1wall 13:45, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
I prefer the current for a few reasons. Firstly, we can see her mother's necklace, which is a treasured possession of hers, and it cannot be seen in the proposal. The current also displays her caring attitude, while in the proposal she has a rather awkward expression, so I'm inclined to stick with the current image. Annawantimes (Talk) 13:50, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
The current one for everything Annawan has mentioned. Additionally, the current image also has a warmer feeling about it than the proposed which is mainly dominated by colder blue colors. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:52, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
She has Water Tribe clothing in the current, so I fail to see the problem there. In addition, well, everything else mentioned above. Katara and Bolin Fanboy Send me a messenger hawk Katara Sprite Season 3Bolin sprite 13:53, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps I'm the only one that isn't a fan of Katara's hairstyles in Book 3. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 15:25, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
@DarkKnight: No, you're not the only one. I'm not a big fan of her hairstyles in Book 3, but there's just too much blue in the proposed image. So, I'm sticking with the current for now, per Annawan and LL. KataraLover Katara-chao1 15:37, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
I think we should stick with the current, it's crisper, has more tonal value, more 'current', and everything else mentioned above. Appa Sprite Rage  Of  Fluffy http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l605/RageOfFluffy/South_Africa.gif
Definitely the current one. It portrays her warm-natured character very accurately, you can see her mother's betrothal necklace, colors are better, she's wearing her Water Tribe outfit that she normally wears (as opposed to the coat), etc many other reasons. Oh, and also, the current image does show her with hair loopies so that reason is moot. It's also moot because she is wearing her Water Tribe outfit; and actually serves to counter the proposed image because she doesn't wear the coat for most of the series. The current is simply better all-around. Vulmen (talkEoK) 02:33, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
Per Vulmen. ― Thailog 00:19, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
Keep the current image per the above reasons; an overall more accurate portrayal of her and of higher quality. The Ultimate Waterbender 13:56, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Per Vulmen. --I'm The Bos Wall 22:04, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

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Police boat

5-18-2012

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File:Police vehicles.png|Current image
File:Police boat.png|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

It's a bit blurry, but it's a closer a view of the boat instead of showing destroyed ones from a distant perspective. Dcasawang1wall 01:38, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 08:11, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
Definitely agreeing with this one. Btw, in the current image the boats aren't destroyed yet. ;) Axiovatar Talk 08:57, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
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Proposed will be the new image.
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Rejected proposals

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Iroh

5-17-2012

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File:Iroh.png|Current image
Iroh_Talks.png|Proposal # 4
Thank_you_General_Iroh.png|Proposal # 5
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A significant disagreement in this current discussion is over whether it is more important to show Iroh in the White Lotus uniform and "groomed" or show his personality. Why not both? Proposal # 4 has a relaxed feel, and depending on how you look at it, might hint at his hedonistic tendencies.

Same reasoning as above. (This image is cropped.) Iroh has a pleasant but strong expression in Proposal # 5, and it shows a little bit more of the outfit people like. User:Wan-Shi-Tong-Servant/signature (wallcontribs) 19:27, May 17, 2012 (UTC) Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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Tenzin

5-17-2012

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File:Tenzin.png|Current image	
File:Tenzin-3.png|Proposed replacement #1
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Although the current one is more detailed, it's too close to his face. If someone could retake that one further from his face, I would prefer it over my proposal. Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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Pema

5-17-2012

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File:Pema.png|Current image
File:Pema-1.png|Proposed replacement #1
File:Pema01.png|Proposed replacement #2
</gallery>

The only real problem I have with the current is that the lighting makes it hard to tell she has green eyes. These have better lighting. Yz2907 (wallcontribsquotes) 09:52, May 17, 2012 (UTC) Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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Aang

5-18-2012

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File:Aang_at_Jasmine_Dragon.png|Current image
File:AangNEW.png|Proposed replacement #1
File:AangNEW2.png|Proposed replacement #2
</gallery>

Last proposal I'll make for a while... I propose we change Aang's image. The current shows him wearing a "special outfit" that he wore one time in the series. Both proposals show him in outfits that he wore for long periods of time. Also, his expression in the current seems less "happy-go-lucky", and more "series happy?". Anyway, both proposals have nicer expressions. I personally like proposal #2 as it has Aang in his traditional Air Nomad clothing. DarkKnightRises (wallcontribs) 19:25, May 18, 2012 (UTC) Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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Future Industries

5-20-2012

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File:Future Industries.jpg|Current image
File:Future Industries.png|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

The image I am proposing is from an episode, uses proper ratio and is of higher quality. Matey Y. (wallA:TLoM) 14:51, May 20, 2012 (UTC) Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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Lin Beifong

5-21-2012

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File:Lin Beifong at gala.png|Current image
File:LinBeiFong2.png|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

I wished to propose a new image for her as, her current image is of her, when she was really stern and mean and scowled most of the time. In this image, she doesn't look that mean and doesn't have a scowl-y face. Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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The Aftermath

5-21-2012

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File:Fallenbender.png|Current image
File:Mecha_tank.png|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

This proposed replacement shows korra,tenzin,lin looking a mecha tank in front of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LegendaryNinja (wallcontribs) 12:45, May 21, 2012 (UTC) Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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Protestor

5-21-2012

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File:Republic City protestor.png|Current image
File:Protestor.jpg|Proposed replacement #1
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Cabbage Corp

5-22-2012

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File:Cabbage Corp.png|Current image
File:Cabbage Corp full.jpg|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

I believe that this image should replace the current placeholder for the Cabbage Corp as it shows the full building rather than just the entrance. --JW Talk 08:13, May 22, 2012 (UTC) Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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Pabu

5-23-2012

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File:Fire ferret.png|Current image
File:Pabu12.png|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

Pabu's current image is an artwoek and thin proposal is a pabu alone. Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

Hasook

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5-23-2012

<gallery hideaddbutton="true">
File:Hasook.PNG|Current image
File:Hasook_in_action.png|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

Hasook's current image is good.But this proposal is Hasook in action.And we can see his body. LegendaryNinja 07:23, May 23, 2012 (UTC) Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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Meelo

5-23-2012

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File:Meelo.jpg|Current image
File:Meelo_proposal.png|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

We should chane Meelo's image because the current is an artwork. LegendaryNinja 13:34, May 23, 2012 (UTC) Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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Naga

5-23-2012

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File:Naga.png|Current image
File:Polar bear dog.png|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

We should change Naga's picture because the current image is an artwork and not from episode cat. LegendaryNinja 13:17, May 23, 2012 (UTC) Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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Pabu

5-23-2012

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File:Fire ferret.png|Current image
File:Pabu.png|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

I realize Pabu's been proposed before and rejected, but the current image just isn't him. There's not currently any good scenes that I can think of showing Pabu other than the one with him in his mascot costume, which was one of the reasons the last image was rejected, so this is probably the best we have at this time. Please consider it, because I feel we need to have an image of the real Pabu, not concept art for a generic fire ferret. Thank you for reading. --Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 12:10, May 23, 2012 (UTC) Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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Pabu 2

5-23-2012

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File:Fire_ferret.png|Current image
File:Pabu.jpg|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

I feel the current picture of Pabu should be change because he design is no longer the same as in the photo. This picture it shows how Pabu looks in the show. It doesn't show his full body, although it shows most of it, including his face. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyuuriblue (wallcontribs). This note was added on 23:56, May 23, 2012 (UTC). Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom