Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/Archive 3

Approved Proposals

Malu (Firebender)

09-11-2011

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Malu (Firebender)|Current image
Malu (Firebender) replacement|Proposed replacement #1 
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The current image is far too zoomed out, and also the character's hair is covering his face. Malu is also Firebending, which distracts from the object and purpose of the image. I have taken a different image and cropped it extensively so that Malu is in fact the subject of the image, and we can see his face far clearer than in the current image. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 10:29, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 14:40, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Rass. I think the new image looks more proper. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 15:16, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Agree totally. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 15:20, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Seconded with Rass. Axiovatar Talk 14:05, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Me too. --The Princess who Dwells Within the Darkness of Sin 01:38, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm all for the proposed image!_{Back for Korra Folks :)  Talk  Contribs  Following}  01:40, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Definitely, I proposed image is just better overall. The Ultimate Waterbender 23:26, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

The second one is way better! VJavatar honors the fallen of 9/11 23:54, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed replacement #1 is the new profile image
Please do not edit this discussion.

Robert Ito

09-14-2011

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Robert Ito|Current image
Actor_4877|Proposed replacement #1
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The current image has that pipe like thing that steals the concentration and also blocks his view. Also, I think that the current image is from a movie. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 07:38, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I support this change...the current one does look like it's from a movie... Vulmen (talk • contribs) 13:30, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

The current image has too many elements on it. It has the white streak around the side, that huge metal thingy... It's just distracting from the subject. And he seems to be wearing a... disguise? I'm all for the proposed replacement. Axiovatar Talk 07:39, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I also support the proposed replacement - the current one really does look like it comes from a movie... :S --The Princess who Dwells Within the Darkness of Sin 10:38, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

The proposed replacement is much clearer with a much better view of the actor, and is overall a much better picture. I definately support the replacement. Carloso - Talk 17:57, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

The proposed image is much better. I'm all for it. The Ultimate Waterbender 23:26, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I support the change. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 08:00, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed replacement #1 is the new profile image
Please do not edit this discussion.

Equalists

09-14-2011

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Chi Blocker Equalist|Current image
Special Equalist|Proposed image #1
Equalists|Proposed image #2
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It has come to my attention that the current concept image used to depict the Equalists, is actually a concept image of their leader, Amon. This needs to be rectified as soon as possible, as the image is an innacurate representation of the characters. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 06:22, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 14:40, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely. The current image is an image of the wrong thing. We need to depict the organization itself, not their leader. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 15:18, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

If the current image is of the wrong thing, then of course I agree. A Light Shining in the Darkness - ^Talk 15:18, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 15:20, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

I am all for the change because it is just a wrong picture and we can't have that, but I found another picture of the equalists and tweeked it a bit so it would be more sharper. I think it's a better one than #1 as the fist option is quite dark and bluish. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 15:25, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

I like #2. I can actually see the people in it instead of just a black figure. :) Vulmen (talk • contribs) 02:02, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Although #2 seems decolorized from the original dark blue, I personally wouldn't mind if it means having a clearer picture of the subject. #2 it is then. Axiovatar Talk 07:58, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

I would support #2 as well - all around, it's a better picture, and I'm not sure it's even all that decolorized (they certianly seemed that basic color in the trailer, to me at least). Toph's Fanboy Fanon #1 Fanon #2 http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/flutflutflyer/TokkaSpriteSig.png 04:06, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

I personally like the current one much better - they are larger and you can see them. It doesn't really matter. When Korra comes out we'll get a better one. --BlackMonkey - Talk 20:35, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Refer to Rass's reason. We already have a pretty good shot of the Equalist, why wait for more? Axiovatar Talk 07:22, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

BlackMonkey, the current one isn't an image of the Equalists though, it's an image of Amon. That's why the change was suggested. ;) Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 08:00, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed replacement #2 is the new profile image
Please do not edit this discussion.

Divided We Fall

09-14-2011

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500px-Divided We Fall Cover|Proposed Image
LOKAI3|Current
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The current image doesn't represent the comic very well. It's a picture of the old lady that took care of Toph in the fourth part. On the other hand, the proposed image represents the comic as a whole and shows the main characters of the comic which is Team Avatar. Aang20791 Fanons 23:41, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for proposal. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 14:40, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Definitely agreed. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 15:20, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

I've nothing more to say than "yes". Lady Lostris /  SOAP 15:38, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Well, of course. A Light Shining in the Darkness - ^Talk 15:49, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Though the category confused me a little as I thought the one on the left was the 'Current' with the right being 'proposed' and was about to disagree. ^ That's how strong I am for this change. LOL Vulmen (talk • contribs) 02:04, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lol I had the same trouble too but yeh, definitely agree with the proposed replacement :) --The Princess who Dwells Within the Darkness of Sin 10:39, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I support the change. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 08:00, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed replacement #1 is the new profile image
Please do not edit this discussion.

Aang (Pilot)

09-16-2011

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Pilot148|Current image
Aang_pilot|Proposed replacement #1
Aang_(pilot)1|Proposed replacement #2
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Reason:The Current photo shows Aang in the avatar state not capturing his eyes or the shape of his arrow and the other picture shows more of what Aang looked like in the Pilot.Avatarded97 (talk • contribs) 23:45, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Uh; yeah that doesn't quite capture "Aang". But man that sure is one awkward picture of him. :S Vulmen (talk • contribs) 00:02, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. It was literally the best one from Piandao.org. I went through every page looking for a better one... But The new one by far. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 00:25, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I don't mean to come off as rude, but... he has a pretty idiotic expression there. :\ But if that's the best so far, then I'll go with it, reluctantly. Axiovatar Talk 07:59, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

It might not look like him, but that's because the original Aang didn't look like him. He is a whole different character, basically, and I'm all for the one that shows more of him. Which is #1. I'm all for the change. --BlackMonkey - Talk 20:40, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I have a few suggestions. What about this picture or this one? Personally, I perfer the first one. I'll try and see if I can find some more. Aang20791 Fanons 21:19, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

How did I miss that one? Aang's #1 suggestion for sure. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 21:27, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Since the first proposal was only there as a lesser-of-2-evils, I uploaded another in its place. Thoughts on the better upload? --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 21:35, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Definitely a better image, Bos. Go with that one. --BlackMonkey - Talk 22:52, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Agree as well, much more helpful picture of Aang. I just couldn't find any other one already uploaded when I created the page :/. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 23:24, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

The current proposed image is much more better. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 01:24, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Better upload is indeed Better. I'm all for it. Axiovatar Talk 07:17, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I support the change. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 08:00, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with this chaange. The profile image shouldn't show Aang in the Avatar State. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 15:35, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

In the preposed replacement, you can see his shoulders and it doesn't cut off the top of his head, so I support it. VJavatar honors the fallen of 9/11 00:19, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yeh I think the proposed replacement is better :D --The Princess who Dwells Within the Darkness of Sin 05:08, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I've added the second image, because I think it's a better image as one, and two it shows more of Aang's personality, but maybe too much? Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 13:46, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I think #2 is a little much. It doesn't really look professional enough. He's supposed to look happy, not hyper. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 13:51, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Sry for potentially addin' more pictures, but what about this or this? They're slightly less awk (esp. the first one). As for #2, 'gree with Bos, seems too...excited. Still, pretty much anything is better than the current one. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 17:55, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I still support #1. Like The Bos says, it looks more professional.

@TheOldMasters: I don't think we should use images where he's on his glider for this purpose. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 18:59, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

1. 2 looks weird because Aang is talking at the moment. It's not a good image for the infobox. #1 fits his personality the best. Aang20791 Fanons 21:22, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

1. 1 definitely, #2 no...current; not at all. Of the choices; #1 simply captures the character in the best light/reference. Vulmen (talk • contribs) 02:22, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Image #1 is better than #2. Yes, maybe too much ^^ Dcasawaang1 (talk) 10:34, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed replacement #1 is the new profile image
Please do not edit this discussion.

Template:Delete

10-01-2011

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File:Ozai|Current image
File:Enhancedfire|Proposed replacement #1
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Me, again... Anyway, wasn't sure whether to do this here or not, but I figured it would get 0 attention on its' talk page, and it sort of applies here... So, {{Delete}}'s image is that of Ozai sitting calmly, whilst its' quote is very aggressive "It does not deserve to exist in this world, in my world," not very fitting, is it? I know it's a very minor thing, but I think that the proposed image suits the subject of the quote and the context of the template. The proposed image is already used on wiki. Thoughts? Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 10:51, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. ? Thailog 11:43, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I like the new image. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 12:54, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. This will also apply to the Avatar Answers' template is it changed here. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 13:17, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Per Rass' reasons. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 15:36, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

The second one actually looks like he's destroying something, I support! VJavatar honors the fallen of 9/11 00:16, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

It's definitely better than the old one, so I agree, but what about the point right around when he says that quote (attacking Aang's shell)? for example, here -Shows much more of Ozai, has a malicious grin, and has clear aggression. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 03:03, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

As per TheOldMasters' suggestion, I've uploaded Image #2. I personally like it, as it shows Ozai in a sadistic grin and also has aggretion. I know our wiki tries to minimise the amount of images, but this is clearly a better image, IMO. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 03:30, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I like #2; he's got that sadistic grin that matches the quote used. #1 it's hard to tell just who's at the center of all that flame. Either is better than the current image -- too stoic DesertDog (talk) 04:38, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I'm afraid not. The reason the current image is of a calm Ozai, is because it was changed to comply with image policy, which states, "Given the nature of copyrighted images, Avatar Wiki tries to use them sparingly, and whenever possible on more than one single article, instead of using different pictures to illustrate the same subject." The uploading and use of that image violates this piece of policy, and so it shouldn't be used for such a minor detail. The only reason I suggested the change was because I knew this image was already on the wiki's database, and so I thought we'd utilize it. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 05:42, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

"I know our wiki tries to minimise the amount of images, but this is clearly a better image, IMO." Well, I did say that. I don't really like the proposed replacement #1 as we can't see the origin of the fire whip. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 10:18, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

The fire whip? Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 10:57, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oh sorry, the flames... that Ozai makes, yeah. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 11:17, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I absolutely love #2. Just . . . adore it. =3 TAD, theavatardemotivator - talk 11:19, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

1. 2 is great. Definitely portrays destruction, er, deletion better than either of the other images. Sirius 13 FP 14:21, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

We do not upload images only for templates. So #2 is a no-no. ? Thailog 18:32, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I would say #2 since #1 isn't a clear shot of the speaker, but Thailog says its a no-no, so I guess I vote to keep the current image. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 18:55, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Well, what if we were to use #2 somewhere else, too? No? Eh, whatever. I would say #2, but #1, since we can't use #2. A Light Shining in the Darkness - ^Talk 19:03, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I looked at the Ozai pictures [those with "ozai" in its filename] already uploaded to the site (which i assume means it's probably assured not to be deleted), and I came up with this or this. First one at least has a bit more of an aggressive tinge to it (though it might just be in my head b/c he's the Phoenix King), and the second one at least makes Ozai a bit more visible in his attack. If neither works, then I still prefer changin' to proposed replacement #1. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 22:04, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

IMO, #1 is just fine. These templates have images so small that you can hardly see them anyway, so who cares if Ozai isn't (clearly) in it? ? Thailog 23:14, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Exactly. The purpose of the image in this particular template is to appear destructive. #1 appears far more destructive than #2, and in any case, like Thailog said, "we do not upload images only for templates." So unless there is another image already on the wiki, then #1 it is. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 23:18, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I would like the #2 one, since you can clearly see it's Ozai and you can see his attack loud and clear. Spo55 - Talk http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/goldenlace123/xiaolin-showdown.gif 21:01, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

I go with #2.-- King Marth 64 (talk • other wikis • blogs) http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k576/DigiPen92/th_20px-Marthsprite.gif 21:21, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

...Perhaps the 2nd proposal should be removed, seeing as it's an invalid proposal yet ppl r still voting for it. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 02:36, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Done. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 13:13, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Sigh, I don't care if it is chaanged. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 14:53, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

erm, is this proposal dead? TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 19:55, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal #1 will become the template image
Please do not edit this discussion.

Aang

10-03-2011

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File:Content Aang.png|Current image
File:Aang1.png|Proposed replacement #1
File:Aang2.png|Proposed replacement #2
File:AangProfile.png|Proposal replacement #3
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I feel that the proposed replacement is a better image for the depiction of Aang, primarily due to the fact that we can see more of Aang's face then in the current image, and we are not looking up at Aang from an angle in the proposed image. We can also see more of Aang's monk robes in the current image, which regardless of debating purposes, I think is a plus. The facial expression is exactly the same but mirrored, and Aang fills more of the image (due to a slight cropping) than the current image. There is one problematic issue some may find, and that is the significantly different lighting. It does seem to be very bright compared to the current image - which I am prepared to fix if necesary, I just thought I'd upload the original first - but the lighting in the current image isn't ideal due to the fact that it is 'taken' at sunset, and so the image appears a little more 'pinkish', if you will. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 09:29, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. ? Thailog 11:43, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I have actually never liked Aang's current profile picture as it is in an angle. I support the image for all the reasons Rassilon of Old has stated above. In the current image, the background is "pinkish" and we can't see Aang's robes and his face clearly, while in the proposed replacement, we can see more of Aang. Oh, btw, I fixed the ratio which is 333 pixels X 250 pixels. :) – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 13:25, September 14, 2011 (UTC) – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 13:25, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I like the new picture. It has a better look aangle. I agree with Rass, the facial expression shows even more appropiate. And, I don't see a problem with the lighting. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 15:03, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I have a question. The new Zuko proposal was rejected because the "particular shot is from the very last moments of the series, thus not recognizable in the scope of the whole show", right? So why can we use an image of Aang in the last moments of the series? Anyway, I like the original one better, the proposal's Aang looks really confused. He's smiling, but his eyebrows are furled, turning down. Happy mouth + Sad eyebrows = Hmm... --BlackMonkey - Talk 19:17, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I support this change. The current image is at too far an angle, and doesn't show enough of Aang. The proposed picture is a good one. A Light Shining in the Darkness - ^Talk 19:23, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I like the change, but I feel that there are better images. For example, do we have to show him in his monk robes? Why not his second half of Book 3 clothes? In terms of monk clothes, I'd suggest this, but I think that this would be fantastic if we can do without his monk robes. TAD, theavatardemotivator - talk 20:31, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

The proposed image is nice, but I personally don't see any reason to change his image. I think the current one is just fine. I'm not sure; I'm kind of neutral on this one. The Ultimate Waterbender 22:06, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hey TAD, you should upload those images and add them into the gallery so we can all see them. :) I have always like TAD's second proposal as an image, but I don't think it's a great image for a profile image, as Aang is way too far off to the right. Unless it can be centred whilst keeping the propoer ratio, I would oppose that one. TAD's first proposal however, I like it, but does it look like he looks like his about to sneeze, or, I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but he does look, well, stoned, to be honest. Sort of drousy, like he's just about to sneeze or fall asleep... Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 22:10, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I presume my second image would be cropped. Also . . . I don't know how to add it to the above gallery. x.x" I tend to stay away from images for . . . personal reasons. [shudders from bad memories] If someone would be willing to, ah . . . TAD, theavatardemotivator - talk 01:00, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Love #3. --BlackMonkey - Talk 01:46, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I like the proposed replacement #3, however, I also don't like it because it has Momo in the right side. In the proposed replacement #2, as Rassilon of Old said, Aang looks drousy, just like he is about to fall asleep. The best, in my opinion, is the proposed replacement #1. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 03:12, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I like #2 and #3 as images, but not as profile images. They're both sized incorrectly, being square they're unsuitable for an infobox, and I don't like Momo. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 05:45, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

My choice would be #2. His expression is in no way drouzy to me. Instead, I think he has a content, serene face, add in the faint grin and there you have it. #1 doesn't work for me per BM's reason, neither does #3 because of a particular look on his face that's like: ._. And as much as Momo is lovable, he just doesn't fit in this picture. =/ Axiovatar Talk 10:08, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

BM has misunderstood the reason for Zuko's rejection. It was because it was not an accurate representation of the character for the majority of the series, as he was pictured as Fire Lord. However, the depiction of Aang from the last episode shouldn't matter, because his current image is taken not only from the last episode, but from the last scene, therefore proposal #1 is valid. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 10:53, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

And also his facial expression is exactly the same, he looks content. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 10:54, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Edit conflict, argh . . .

Anyway, I agree with you on Momo, but I would be more than happy to size them correctly. I didn't realize I'd sized them incorrectly. x.x" What is the correct sizing? 333 x 250, right? Also, I don't consider #2 having a drowsy face. He just seems to be . . . content. Peaceful. Finally at peace. Which is his character arc, of course. Let me resize that one. TAD, theavatardemotivator - talk 10:56, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, he looks content, but to me it looks as though the screencap was just taken at a bad time, as though he had just blinked, or was going to. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 11:03, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Someone had an edit conflict with me, darn it. The current image is just not in a very good lighting, so I'd have to go with either proposed replacement #1 or proposed replacement #2, but not the third since Aang isn't in his significant clothing. Lego Talk 2,278 Edits! ---- Why so serious? 10:45, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

@Rass: It doesn't look that way to me. I don't particularly like #1 because I feel like the lighting is strange and makes his arrow 'light up', if that makes any sense. Also, the image to me seems to be of lower quality. Maybe I'm wrong, but . . . Aang feels grainy and pixelated. TAD, theavatardemotivator - talk 11:07, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Looks like we had the same idea. :P Anyway, I cropped it a little bit to remove the black border, and I also centred Aang. I just still don't know. I personally prefer #1 still. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 11:09, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, now the image is much better. I suppose the question now is: Do we want looking to the distance or towards the audience? TAD, theavatardemotivator - talk 11:12, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I like #1. I think it shows some of Aang's personality. (: ~Pretty Much Katara In Real Life <3 (talk • contribs) 11:13, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I don't like either 1 or 2; 1 doesn't rly seem to show Aang's personality in the show, while 2 is kinda grainy is is more drowsy than just peaceful. The third one [after Momo is cropped off], though much closer to Aang's personality, also seems incredibly, erm, "undetailed" - it doesn't seem like that "slide" in the animated drawings was of very high quality/detail. With the proposals so far, I don't think it should be changed. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 17:40, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I like 2 best. It shows him relaxed, happy, peaceful - representing him as he appears through the series. He should be depicted in the Air Nomad garb because that is who he is - an Air Nomad. We wouldn't have a picture of Zuko wearing the Earth Kingdom clothes he had on in the Jasmine Dragon scene. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 19:29, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I will go for #2, as well. Showing him calm, relaxed, etc. is very good, as that is basically Aang. Good lighting, as well, and a fairly good angle. A Light Shining in the Darkness - ^Talk 20:38, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Image #2 of Aang is just...serene. I like that the most of the line-up, really. He often was a meditative and reflective person...and this shows where he grew, maturity-wise, as the series progressed. :) Vulmen (talk • contribs) 21:59, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

So, do we open up voting, or . . . what? TAD, theavatardemotivator - talk 02:08, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Number 3 is a bit odd. The first two are good, but I don't see what's wrong with the current picture._{Back for Korra Folks :)  Talk  Contribs  Following}  02:28, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

I personally prefer the current image. Aang looks so...calm in that picture. IMO, Aang has an odd expression in #1 and Aang looks kinda tired in #2. I think TAD's right. We should open up voting. Aang20791 Fanons 02:33, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

I'm opening up a vote to reach clear consensus. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 04:41, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Voting

Current image

1. Support — I still think the current image is the best. The Ultimate Waterbender 23:20, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
2. Support — Per Ultimate. Aang20791 Fanons 23:22, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
3. Support — I do not see any issue with the current image as it stands. KataraFanboy Send me a messenger hawk Read my fanon! http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o82/yankeesrule4ever/santa-katara1.gif 23:23, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
4. Support — Per PSU. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 23:33, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
5. Support — There's nothing wrong with this image, so why chaange it? Sirius 13 FP 23:35, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
6. Support —See Ultimate. This isn't the greatest picture of Aang, but of the proposals it's the best. Agree w/ Spo55 though, any good picture from the rest of the series (w/o hair) will trump this one for me. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 01:09, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
7. Support — The current one has a better view, plus his neck is straight Powerfullest (talk • contribs) 19:55, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
8. Support — Just because the current one is not ideal, it doesn't mean we have to settle with the proposed ones, which IMO are not better alternatives. ? Thailog 19:57, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
9. Support — I don't see any problem with the current image. --The Princess who Dwells Within the Darkness of Sin 04:14, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
10. Support — The current image looks great because of it's background but if it wasn't for that, I would vote for Image #2.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs 

    I'm not making you change your vote, but isn't voting for a picture solely because the background is better kind of "voting for the wrong reasons"? As we would like to put up a picture that is best for Aang, not the background :-) Lady Lostris /  SOAP 14:02, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Image 1

1. Support — Per proposal - better lighting, exactly the same expression as the current image, we see more of his face, he appears peaceful as he has done in the majority of the series. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 04:41, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
2. Support — Per Rass - its a better view and his expression seems the most like his character of all the images. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 04:49, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
3. Support — Millennia2 23:18, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
4. Support — – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 14:53, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Image 2

1. Support — Per my reasons stated above. Axiovatar Talk 07:56, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
2. Astronomical Support — So...yeah.Aangzula 22:15, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
3. Support — Per my reasons, though I see the current image will win. TAD, theavatardemotivator - talk 10:53, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
4. Support — As I said above. A Light Shining in the Darkness - ^Talk 01:36, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
5. Support — I don't think there is anything wrong with the current image, but this one is more or less the same with the exception that his face is more centered. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 21:45, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
6. Support — VJavatar honors the fallen of 9/11 01:43, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
7. Support — Ninjas and Na'vi 19:48, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
8. Support — --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 19:52, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Image 3

1. Support — I just am not a fan of the Aang pictures at the end of the series. It doesn't encompass his image throughout the series. Spo55 - Talk - Fanon 23:30, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
2. Support — He looks confused in 1 and drunk in 2. Process of elimination does the rest. --BlackMonkey ^{Talk - Fire & Ice} 20:19, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Current image remains as the profile picture
Please do not edit this discussion.

Appa

10-05-2011

<gallery hideaddbutton="true">
Appa (Headband).png|Current Picture
File:AppaNightFly.png|Proposed replacement #1
File:Appa.png|Proposed replacement #2
File:Appa1.png|Proposed replacement #3
File:AppaFlyingInTheAir.png|Proposed replacement #4
File:AppaLooksDown.png|Proposed replacement #5
File:AppaAndFriends.png|Proposed replacement #6
</gallery>

Appa is an important member of Team Avatar - one of the four original members - and he has a large collection of adventures throughout the series. And our current profile picture of Appa is him scared, on the ground, in a cave. Doesn't Appa hate caves? The proposed replacement shows Appa flying, which is really his signature thing to do. And you can see his face, which also rather nice. What do you think? BlackMonkey - Talk 18:03, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

I do remember having a proposal to change Appa's image a while ago, but the reasons are good enough to have another debate over. I still like the original better. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 23:06, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

I like BM's reasons for changing the picture, but I think the proposed one is too dark. If we could find a lighter one, I am all for it, but with this change I am in favor of keeping the current one. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 23:08, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

I agree ith the Lady. If we can get a lighter version of the replacement I'm all for that. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 23:16, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Of the two images; I think the current one actually shows more of Appa than the one of him flying, even if it were lighter. I'm not totally against changing the image, but I just think it displays him better as is currently. Vulmen (talk • contribs) 23:27, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

I made a better lighted one, with the proper ratio as soon as I saw this proposal. :P Will upload it right away! – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 01:17, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

 Done – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 01:22, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

So...? – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 15:20, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

The lightened version is definitely better than the first proposal, but I think it is still too dark, to blue to be considered better than the current picture. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 21:02, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

I feel the current image is just fine. It really doesn't need to be changed. The Ultimate Waterbender 23:26, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I disagree, preposed replacement 2 captures Appa's eyes, which the other doesn't. VJavatar honors the fallen of 9/11 23:31, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

You definitely see more of Appa in replacement 2, plus he is shown flying. --BlackMonkey - Talk 20:33, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I do not support the change, however I do not like the current image either. I will do some image hunting. :) Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 08:00, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I have just added image #3. I think it's a great pic, and it's 'taken' during the day, which I think is desirable for not only Appa's picture, but for all profile images. If someone could please fix the ratio, it would be greatly appreciated. :) Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 09:32, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I'll say first off that #3 is simply cute. But after doing some comparison, the facial features visible is no different from the current, except the eyes. Current one also displays more of Appa (saddle, tail etc), rather than focusing on it's face. The bright daylight is a plus, however. I dunno. I'm torn between clear facial features and overall visibility. :| Axiovatar Talk 09:50, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, he is cute there isn't he! Great lazy ball of fluff. :3 But in any case, I think the visibility of the face is more than a little different, in the fact that we can see his eyes far more clearly, which I think is a big point of argument. The saddle is a minor feature of Appa, as it is an accessory. Would you oppose an image of Katara because she, say, wasn't wearing her hair loopies, or her mother's necklace? It isn't a physical part of Appa. But I agree on the tail point. That really is an important feature of Appa. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 09:55, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

The whole point of changing it was so Appa could be fully seen - and flying. #3 is basically just an "outside" version of the current one. --BlackMonkey - Talk 11:29, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I've fallen in love with #3. :D There's just something about it that I adore! But since it doesn't fit the agenda, I'll keep on the look out. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 23:22, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I say that #2 is better than the current one, but there has to be a better picture. A brief glance through the already-uploaded pictures with filename "appa" didn't turn up anything, though. D: TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 03:11, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

I have added a #4 - right from the second episode. It's bright, he's flying, you can see all of him, plus the yellow background fits into his Air Nomad heritage. I think it's perfect. -- BlackMonkey  Talk  Fanon 23:07, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I don 't like it. We can only see Appa's side. I think it's important that we capture his face. Aang20791 Fanons 23:14, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

The current one has candles in the background, too. Fire and caves in Appa's profile picture - the two things that he truly fears. That's the best we can find? --BlackMonkey ^{Talk - Fire & Ice} 01:49, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm..that's true. I'll try to find a better one. There just has to be a better one somewhere. Edit: Here are the some of the best images I found. http://piandao.org/screencaps/ep36/ep36-1282.png http://piandao.org/screencaps/ep37/ep37-1035.png http://piandao.org/screencaps/ep36/ep36-1184.png There has to be better ones. I'll keep looking. Aang20791 Fanons 02:03, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hm, new image 5 is definitely better imo. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 15:18, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Per DC, I think that #5 is the best. Aang20791 Fanons 20:57, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

I, preferably like image #3 the best of the prrposed ones. However, I would like to keep the orignal picture as is, but if it must change...go with #3. Spo55 - Talk http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/goldenlace123/xiaolin-showdown.gif 21:04, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

I go with #5.-- King Marth 64 (talk • other wikis • blogs) http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k576/DigiPen92/th_20px-Marthsprite.gif 21:21, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

http://piandao.org/screencaps/ep40/ep40-5.png -> What about this shot? The Ultimate Waterbender 22:04, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

I like the one Ultimate proposed above, it's a great shot, however, the fact that Aang and Sokka are clearly in the photo may take away from it... Still searching for picture, also! Spo55 - Talk - Fanon 22:07, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

4 isn't good, it has the same problem as the original - Appa's face isn't visible. 5, if cropped, would be the best of the ones already there, but Ultimate's would be superb, if havin' Aang/Sokka is acceptable. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 01:29, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know about you guys, but the background in #5 makes Appa look miniature-ish. The colors and contrast needs a little tweaking. And what's with the awkward expression? It looks like he got the shock of his life. :| After much reflection, I find #2 quite suitable - it has a clear view of the face, the body... sorta. Only thing is the night scene, but I guess that should'nt be the issue since Natsu brightened it. Axiovatar Talk 08:07, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

(Stares at #6 in awe) I think we have ourselves a winning shot there. Man, was I indecisive... :S Axiovatar Talk 07:19, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion has been going on for almost a month. We need a decision. I still vote #4, but my second choice would still be #2. --BlackMonkey ^{Talk - Fire & Ice} 20:58, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

For me, #6 undoubtedly fits the bill. It is #2 with daylight and an overall view of the creature (including the face). We see him in flight, with Aang and Sokka! What more could one possibly ask for? :D Okay, lets open a poll. Axiovatar Talk 10:15, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ah! Yes! #6! Finally, a really good picture! A Light Shining in the Darkness - ^Talk 14:11, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

YES! Absolutely perfect. -Sits waiting for poll to open TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 03:34, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Meh... For some reason number 6 just seems... I'm not sure. It just doesn't really fit. Hmm.... --BlackMonkey ^{Talk - Fire & Ice} 16:28, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

This debate has been going on for too long - officially a month! It's time to settle our problems with Appa, so I've created a nice, homemade poll! Vote in below under which replacement you want:

Voting

Current Image

1. Support — Call me crazy... I know I proposed the sixth image, but in all honesty, I think the current image is the best. =P The Ultimate Waterbender 18:38, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
2. Support — There's nothing wrong with the current image imo. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 13:50, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Proposed Replacement 2

1. Support — This is completely subjective, but Appa is too cute to reject in that pic. But siriusly, the lighting's decent, Appa's flying, front and side, typical representation...and he's so damn cute.Aangzula 03:06, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Proposed Replacement 4

1. Support — BlackMonkey ^{Talk - Fire & Ice} 01:51, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
2. Support —VJavatar The Last Wikibender(AR) 23:18, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Proposed Replacement 6

1. Full Support — Per my reasons above. Axiovatar Talk 02:16, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
2. Support — --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 23:33, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
3. Support — Aang20791 Fanons 23:56, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
4. Support —Beautiful detail and shows both Appa's front and side. Perfect. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 02:44, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
5. Support — Millennia2 15:09, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
6. Support — Dcasawaang1 (talk) 13:49, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
7. Support —_{Back for Korra Folks :)  Talk  Contribs  Following}  19:26, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed replacement #6 is the new profile image
Please do not edit this discussion.

Katara

10-05-2011

<gallery hideaddbutton="true">
File:Katara smiling.png|Current image
File:Katara5.png|Proposed replacement #1
File:Katara1.png|Proposed replacement #2
File:Katara1bis.png|Proposed replacement #2bis
File:Katara2bis.png|Proposed replacement #2fixed (resized)
File:Katara2.png|Proposed replacement #3
File:Katara3.png|Proposed replacement #4
File:Katara4.png|Proposed replacement #5
</gallery>

I know in the past that Katara's image has been the subject of hot debate, with many arguing that the current image is "un-flattering, badly lighted, etc." Well whilst digging for a new Appa image, I came across what I thought to be good quality images of Katara that might be suitable for her profile image. Now, the first proposed replacement is the same as the current image, but cropped a little differently and I've tweaked the lighting, and I think it looks much better.

Image #2 is from the final episode, and as you can see, is an almost extreme close up image. It may be too close to be suitable for the profile image, but it is just about as zoomed as Zuko's current image. The only downside being that she isn't the centre of the image.

Image #3 is an extreme cropping of the scene in the final episode in which she is walking out onto the balcony to meet Aang, and start smoochy-smoochy time. :P I think it could work, other than the fact that it is a very small image, but I have tested it in the infobox, and it actually looks pretty good, if not a little blurry.

Image #4 is just an uncropped basic screenshot from "The Painted Lady". I think it's a great shot for the profile image, other than the fact it is night, and the lighting is a little bad. If anyone would like to have a go at shedding some light on the situation, if you'll pardon the pun, be my guest. :)

And lastly, image #5 is another good shot of Katara, but again, a bad point! She is frowning, and I'm not sure that this is an accurate representation of her character, but since I had so many proposals, I thought one more couldn't hurt. :) So there we have it. I personally prefer images #1, #2 and #3. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 10:09, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. ? Thailog 11:43, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Image 1 is the same, as far as I can tell. I know there are differences, but not enough to war rent of change. Image 2 was the image that is usually proposed for her; I feel it's just an awkward expression and thus not representative of her character. Images 3 and 4 fail to show her in her Water Tribe clothing, again not representing her accurately. Image 5 shows her bothered and upset, again not representing her character. The current image shows her in her Water Tribe clothing and shows here smiling, pretty representative of the character known for giving hope speeches. I stick with the current image. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 12:53, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Image #1 and the current image a slightely different in cropping and in colouring. Where as the current image is far brighter, image #1 is darker. I don't think it matters what the character is wearing. I mean, for years Aang has been depicted by wearing his monk robes from the end of Sozins Comet, and he was in those for less than five minutes. I can understand the concerns with Fire Nation garb, but that green Earth Kingdom dress? I don't see a problem. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 13:30, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I have never liked the current image of Katara, and I don't like the Image #1 either. Image #2, as it was said, it would be good, but the zoom is too close to the face. I like Image #3, it's the best one, imo. It shows her (though she's not wearing her Water Tribe cloth) feelings at the end of the series, after the War. In Image #4 I think her face is too "wide" :s and lighting isn't good. Image #5 shows her like she's suspicious about Zuko's join to the team, her facial expression isn't the best one. Therefore, I think Image #3 would be the best option if the clothing doesn't matter in this case. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 15:31, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I like #5, but she's frowning, so that probably won't due. I don't think there's anything wrong with #2, thought. Go with that. --BlackMonkey - Talk 19:17, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Aang is depicted in his Air Nomad garb because his should be represented as an Air Nomad. Katara, being from the Water Tribe, should be clothed in representing her nation, but her face should show a a positive expression given her overly-emphasized optimism. Number 1 seems to be the best out of the suggestions, but the original should be fine. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 20:15, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I was always in favor of Image #2 being Katara's profile picture. Personally, I think her expression in that image is just fine. I know it is a bit of a close-up, but the zoom is not that bad. I mean, take Ty Lee's profile picture; that's also a close-up and her entire braid is missing in that image, so I don't see a problem with a small portion of Katara's hair cut off in Image #2. Rass, however, makes a very valid point concerning Katara in her Earth Kingdom robe and Image #3 isn't bad either. I think it's very flattering. Image #1 was actually Katara's original profile picture before it was cropped more. Image #5 is not very clear and Image #6 has her looking cross which isn't a very good representation of her. That being said, I favor both Image #2 and #3. The Ultimate Waterbender 21:41, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Well, if there's still any debate on the subject of using the Image # 3, I would like to say that it's not such a good idea to try to show all the main characters in the attire they wore at the Jasmine Dragon. (Of course, I'm biased on this subject, as it would be impossible to get any good shots of Toph in such attire...just saying). I suppose that wasn't too helpful. Metalarmor runs away from the discussion.Toph's Fanboy Fanon #1 Fanon #2 http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/flutflutflyer/TokkaSpriteSig.png 03:23, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, I just looked at Ty Lee's image, that might need a change. :/ But anyway, I really don't think it matters what the characters are wearing. It isn't their clothes that matter, it's their face, and how clearly you can see it. And the image doesn't necesarily have to depict the nation they belong to, that's what the infobox and article is for. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the image is for a visual reference of what the person looks like, not what they're wearing. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 22:16, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

People prefer characters in profile images to be in their native or usual clothing because they feel it represents that character in a better way. I myself happen to favor that way, but you again make some valid points and I have no qualms about #3 being Katara's profile picture. The Ultimate Waterbender 22:21, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

All of the pictures are nice, but I like 2 because the coloring is a lot better, and she looks so....calm in the picture. I think it suits her a lot better than the current picture. (: ~Pretty Much Katara In Real Life <3 (talk • contribs) 23:37, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

1. 1 is just a lower quality verasion of the current pic. Number two is a great image, but it's off-center...so no. Number three is too fuzzy and doesn't show her in her WT clothes. Four is a great and centered picture, but not in her usual clothes. And five is just her aangry...madness and seriousness just isn't Katara. If I have to choose out of the proposed, I vote 2, but they all have flaws. The current one has badf lightning and doesn't have great resolution, but it's the best out of all of them. If we do a new Katara image, I think it should be a better version of the current...and #1 isn't better. So, for now, I say keep the current.Aangzula 00:49, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I think that No.2 should be cropped to have her face centered. Otherwise, it's perfect. TAD, theavatardemotivator - talk 01:13, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, here goes my opinion. Image #1 is little to no different than the current one, and I prefer the current one than Image #1. Image #2 is zoomed too much, however, I can live with it. I like Image #3, but I find it a bit too hazy and blurry. As for Image #4, I prefer profile images with the characters in their native nations. In this, Katara is in a Fire Nation attire. Lastly, as everyone has already said, Katara is frowning in Image #5. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 03:22, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

1)No difference.

2)It looks like it would work really well, of course it would be nice to see her smiling more, but, I digress. It's solid capture of her personality, and it doesn't look as awkward as the shot of her talking.

3)We want the characters in their proper nationality's clothing, yes? So, although that's a nice image, I'll have to pass.

4)See 3.

5)That's just not Katara's personality at all.

I'd say go with 2. KataraFanboy Send me a messenger hawk Read my fanon! http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o82/yankeesrule4ever/santa-katara1.gif 03:50, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I, too, say to go with #2. I've never liked the current image; somehow it looks too goofy. #1 we might as well keep the current image. 3 and 4 are right out, the former being blurry and not her typical costume, the latter too dark and not her typical costume. 5 would be great except for the annoyed expression. The slight clipping on #2 is acceptable and the off center focus adds a bit of dynamism to the image. DesertDog (talk) 04:34, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, let me clear something up. Image #1 is different from the current image. It's hard to see in the thumbnail, but if you open the images to the file page, you can see the lighting is much better than the current image's lighting. Whilst the current image is very bright, and Katara looks really really white, the proposed image is of a darker hue, and in my opinion, looks a lot more like Katara's actual skin colour. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 05:33, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

In favor of darker skin color, the background is unfortunately sacrificed. I, however, choose neither. All along I've hated the current image, with a passion. IMO, despite all the flaws, #2 stood out once again as my preferred choice (suitable expression, not-too-off-centered, not that closed-up). Among all, #3 & #4 have to be the worst. With #3 being way too blur and the latter being too dark and also some expression-wise conflict which I couldn't exactly pinpoint, yet. Axiovatar Talk 10:31, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

^^I have always disliked the current image, I must agree. I prefer the proposed replacement #2, as she's smiling, but not too wide of a smile to make it irritating; and the whole lighting for the background is very nice, too.

Lego Talk 2,278 Edits! ---- Why so serious? 10:42, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

The best in the five is the Proposed replacement #2. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 10:46, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I honestly still think the current picture is the best out of all of them. It shows her in the correct outfit in season 3 and I think her expression is also okay. My primary choice would be to go with #1 or the current version. If I have to pick one of the new ones, I would go with #2. #s 3 and 4 are the wrong outfits and #5 I don't like how she is portrayed in at all. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 18:50, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Definitely #2. It's the best one out of all. Aang20791 Fanons 21:22, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

As others have stated, have #2 cropped a bit and it would be perfect, save for the slight cut-off at the top. I'm withdrawing my support for #3. Now that I view the image, it does seem a bit blurry and in all honesty, I'd rather see her in her Water Tribe outfit. Sure, she could be smiling a bit more in #2, but as PSU said, it's better than the shot of her talking where her expression looks funny and her jaw juts out. So, yes, #2, definitely. The Ultimate Waterbender 21:42, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

I'm all for picture 2 as others have been mentioning above. It is a beautiful picture of her and I've been wanting it since the first day I came here. Her current picture looks a bit odd and I'll be relieved if it is changed.--_{Back for Korra Folks :)  Talk  Contribs  Following}  02:24, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

I go with #1 as a Profile and leave #3 as a side for the Book 3 ending info.-- King Marth 64 (talk • other wikis • blogs) http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k576/DigiPen92/th_20px-Marthsprite.gif 21:21, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

I'm opening a vote to reach a clear consensus. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 04:44, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's clear which one's gonna win...can we close the discussion?Aangzula 21:38, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

I know we're already voting, but since many people asked for a cropped version, I added #2bis just to give people an idea of what it would look like. It's not so much of a new picture that we need to revote on this (as I think most if not all the people that voted for #2 will also be down with #2bis), as it is a clear visual of the cropped version for the infobox. I know it is a bit higher than usual, but the correct ration just looked weird :-/ Lady Lostris /  SOAP 16:17, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Voting

Image 1

1. Support — Same as current image, but for better lighting, shows her full body, she is centered, we can see her in her Water Tribe clothes, and her facial expression depicts her most likelyness as a character. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 04:44, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
2. Support — Per Rass --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 04:50, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
3. Support — I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 04:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
4. Support — I don't like the second replacement, and this one is better becuase she's centered. Spo55 - Talk - Fanon 23:43, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
5. Support — I honestly don't like any proposed images, but, if I had to choose one, this would be it. A Light Shining in the Darkness - ^Talk 14:09, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Image 2

1. Support — Per my reasons stated above. Axiovatar Talk 07:57, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
2. ...I ran out of things to say for my support — Aangzula 22:17, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
3. Support — Aang20791 Fanons 22:21, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
4. Support — I've always thought that her expression was a bit weird :-/ Lady Lostris /  SOAP 22:26, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
5. Support — Her current portrait is an atypical representation of herself, as she looks...semi-goofy and retarded. The picture caught her mid-speech. Image #2 captures her loving persona. (Not to mention her correct skin color!) Vulmen (talk • contribs) 22:36, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
6. Support — Still for #2!! (: ~Pretty Much Katara In Real Life <3 (talk • contribs) 22:50, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
   1. Wow, I wanted #2 before,and now that I see the close~up, I definitely think it should be changed to #2!! ~Pretty Much Katara In Real Life <3 (talk • contribs) 23:26, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
7. Support — Yes, absolutely! The Ultimate Waterbender 23:15, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
8. Support — Millennia2 23:16, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
9. Support — I wish she was smiling more, but it's the best out of what we've got in terms of options. Looks like herself, and is less awkward. KataraFanboy Send me a messenger hawk Read my fanon! http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o82/yankeesrule4ever/santa-katara1.gif 23:18, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
10. Support — Per Vulmen. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 23:33, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
11. Support —See PSU. A centering would be even better. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 01:11, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
12. Support — Per my sifu. TAD, theavatardemotivator - talk 10:55, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
13. Support — – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 14:53, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
14. Support — Uiop60 (talk • contribs) 20:13, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
15. Support —VJavatar honors the fallen of 9/11 01:43, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
16. Support — --The Princess who Dwells Within the Darkness of Sin 04:16, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
17. Support — Shows a great image of her and the current one looks a bit awkward anyway.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs 
18. Support — All the reasons above._{Back for Korra Folks :)  Talk  Contribs  Following}  19:27, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Image 5

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Proposed replacement #2fixed is the new profile image
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Pipsqueak

10-06-2011

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Pipsqueak_low-angle.png|Current image
Pipsqueak.png|Proposed replacement #1
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The current image does not fully comply with the infobox criteria. Most of his body is covered by the log. It's basically a headshot. The proposed image not only shows more of the character but it's already in use elsewhere. So, two birds, one stone. ? Thailog 23:09, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 00:16, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'm all for it for Thailog's reasons. Vulmen (talk • contribs) 21:10, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Nothin' much to argue here. Replace it. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 21:14, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

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Proposed image is the new profile image
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Badgermole

10-06-2011

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File:Badgermole.png|Current image
File:Badgermoles 202.png|Proposed replacement #1
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This has been on my mind for a while now and I feel it's about time I bring this up. The proposed replacement image is much better than the current image, in my opinion. It's a bright, clear, high-quality image that shows practically the entire anatomy of the Badgermole, as opposed to the current image which simply shows the facial area of the creature. Not to mention the fact that the Badgermole's head is tilted off to the side in the current shot, making it rather off-putting. Overall, the proposed image is a better representation that gives viewers a view of what the Badgermole looks like as a whole. The Ultimate Waterbender 23:59, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 00:16, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ah yes, a good suggestion. "Badgermole" - Here is what a Badgermole's face looks like. -scratches head- Yeah; let's go with the suggested image. :) Vulmen (talk • contribs) 21:11, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with ltimate. The proposed image is better for the reasons she mentioned. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 21:18, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed image is the new profile image
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Armadillo Lion

10-06-2011

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File:Armadillo Lion.png|Current image
File:Armadillo Lion running.png|Proposed replacement #1
File:Captured Armadillo Lion.png|Proposed replacement #2
File:Armadillo Lion Biting.png|Proposed replacement #3
</gallery>

I realize that neither of the suggested pictures are perfect as in the first proposal, he's in the middle of running and the second he's behind bars, but the current picture is imo even worse. The animal is depicted in mid jump, showing us his belly. The animal name is /armadillo/ lion, but the current picture shows nothing of his armadilloness as you can't see the typical armadillo shield. In both proposed pictures, you can see the shield and as a side note, the animal is more centered. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 15:13, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. ? Thailog 17:41, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm no fan of #1, either. 2 could work, but I'd suggest we keep looking. Do armadillo lions appear in any other episodes? --BlackMonkey ^{Talk - Fire & Ice} 18:46, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

As Old Master explained, I do not really like number one. It looks kinda... well awkward. 2 would be just fine._{Back for Korra Folks :)  Talk  Contribs  Following}  19:33, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Added a number three, found on piandao. It shows the animal much more up-close and centered, and you can still see the armadillo part, which as lady stated, is very important. The first two proposals are good, but have a lot in the background, and the armadillo lion isn't exatly center-focus.If we're all different, then aren't we all the same? 22:31, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

erm, i just saw this actually, lol. #1 just looks wierd. #3, unfortunately, seems a little too focused in on the armadillo lion - you can barely see anything other than the face. #2 is the mediocre best of the replacements so far. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 22:34, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not a fan of 3. The picture is too close up and you don't really notice that the brown is part of the armadillo shield; the focus is too much on his growling face. I'm mostly in favor of 2, only too bad of the bars. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 22:41, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Of the choices given I side with image number two; it's at least a full depiction of the creature without being only 1) it's underbelly or 2) it's face. Vulmen (talk • contribs) 22:56, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

@BlackMonkey, unfortunately, it only appears in that one episode. I side with #2. As others have said, it's too bad about the bars, but it's the best one. The Ultimate Waterbender 23:35, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

None of them are really good. Image #1 is awkward. Image #3 focuses too much on the creature's face. Image #2 is ze bezt of them. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 06:51, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
#2 will replace the current one.
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Tom-Tom

10-09-2011

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File:Tom-Tom.png|Current picture
File:Tom-Tom smiling.png|Proposed replacement #1
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Tom-Tom was a happy, carefree toddler, but his current profile picture shows him to be surprised, whereas the proposed one shows him -more or less- smiling. I've also tweeked the picture to be brighter. (Random note: if someone would be so kind sometime to explain how to fix pictures to be in the right ratio, then that would be awesome). Lady Lostris /  SOAP 16:35, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

"Does that look like the face of a killer to you?" :) Approved for discussion, I'm up for the change. And uh; the picture is 333 x 250, unsure what you mean by fix the ratio. Vulmen (talk • contribs) 02:00, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

That picture is just too cute, not a killer at all ^^. But the ratio is a check, Natsu explained it, so that part can be ignored now :-) Lady Lostris /  SOAP 11:42, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

The second has a better expression and better lighting. Easily # 2. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 14:19, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

You mean #1. :) Vulmen (talk • contribs) 00:10, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I do. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 01:19, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

The current picture is fine, but the other picture is brighter._{Back for Korra Folks :)  Talk  Contribs  Following}  01:28, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I'm going to have to oppose this. The current picture shows Tom-Tom as, well, a baby, a bewildered toddler. I think his expression in the proposed image just looks kind of stupid. A Light Shining in the Darkness - ^Talk 01:36, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

I have to side with BlueDagger on this. Tom-Tom's expression is awkward in the proposed replacement. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 01:46, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Same here. To some extent, his face detracts from a chubby look into a somewhat awkward shape. The expression just doesn't seem right to me. Imo, if the original is given just a little more color and contrast, it should be just fine. Axiovatar Talk 01:53, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

I don't find the proposed expression awkward at all. The current expression just doesn't fit him imo, and a smile is better for him then a totally surprised expression. The proposed picture shows him as a baby, a toddler as well, but shows him to be a happy baby/toddler above a surprised one, which is more correct to his character. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 13:26, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Bluedagger, Natsu, and Axiovatar on this one. The proposal just looks odd to me. LL, I understand what you mean by saying he looks happier in the second picture, but Tom- Tom is a curious baby, so the first picture fits his personality just fine. The Bronze Eagle (talk • contribs) 17:02, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

The expression is awkward, IMO. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 17:05, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, you said that already, but I don't see why it is awkward. He is smiling as opposed to having a round open mouth in surprise :-) Lady Lostris /  SOAP 17:07, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm personally in favor of the proposed image. Sure Tom-Tom may be a curious baby, but as Bos said, his expression in the second image is better. Additionally, the proposed image is of clearer quality. The Ultimate Waterbender 23:26, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I like the original one better. VJavatar honors the fallen of 9/11 23:55, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I do not support the change. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 08:00, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I also do not support the change - he at least looks like the average baby in the first, whereas in the second, to be frank, it looks like something may be wrong inside of his brain. Toph's Fanboy Fanon #1 Fanon #2 http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/flutflutflyer/TokkaSpriteSig.png 04:01, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't support the proposal either. However, it'd be nice to brighten up the original picture a little. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 01:24, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

This seems to be forgotten, so let's just open voting.

Voting

Current image

1. Support —I understand your arguments, but his smile in the replacement just seems messed-up. The original, once its color/brightness are tweaked, is better. He is an incredibly curious baby too, so it's not like the picture misrepresents him. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 22:43, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
2. Support — Per OldMasters. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 15:21, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
3. Support — The current picture is fine. It shows his personality better and the proposed replacement is a little awkward, imo._{Back for Korra Folks :)  Talk  Contribs  Following}  19:30, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
4. Support — His expression is the only issue I have. Axiovatar Talk 07:23, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
5. Support — A Light Shining in the Darkness - ^Talk 12:10, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
6. Support — The current one portrays him fine. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 17:17, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Image 1

1. Support — I prefer the fact that he's smiling over staring into oblivion with his mouth open. Smiling represents his personality better as a happy-go-lucky toddler. Even when he was curiously going after something, he was always smiling, so that should -imo- prevail over the surprised expression. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 16:24, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
2. Support — I'mma have to agree with the cute baby looking like a cute baby. Katara: "Aww he's so cute!" - Image #1 captures this and his curious/playful demeanor, while the current image just looks...lacking. Vulmen (talk • contribs) 16:27, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
3. Support — --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 16:44, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
4. Support — Per Lady. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 13:49, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
5. Support — The Ultimate Waterbender 23:36, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
The current image will remain unchanged.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Tu Zin

10-09-2011

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Aang's fake trail|Current image
Aang at Tu Zin|Proposed replacement #1
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There's a duplication of images, and I think #1 represents the subject better than the current one. ? Thailog 00:33, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 00:38, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

I support image 1. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 01:10, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand...the image with Aang + Appa's hair...is only used on this page? Nowhere else? What are we replacing? Vulmen (talk • contribs) 01:40, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't be the current image the proposed one and vice versa? Dcasawaang1 (talk) 01:48, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, according to the page, image 1 is the one being used. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 01:52, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I chaanged it. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 01:55, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ok - to clarify things, I support the current image, which was previously labeled as image 1. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 01:56, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Uh..I...I wasn't going to change anything; but let Thailog explain what he meant, Dc. -shrugs- I'm not voting commenting until Thailog says anyway. Vulmen (talk • contribs) 02:00, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

I know what the story is, but it was confusing to see it presented this way, since that's not the format we're used to on this page. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 02:03, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Since the situation is a bit unclear: I am for the use of the picture without Aang in it. The picture is used to depict the town and if there is a picture available without any distraction (like the trail of Appa's fur and Aang sitting there) and be similar in quality for the rest, then that is the one we should be using. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 09:31, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

The pictures were fine as hey were. They do not show what pages they link to because I've changed their names but still haven't in every article where they are. Wait a few hour and then check again. Anyway, the current one is the one with Appa's hair, and I want to replace it with the one without. ? Thailog 10:03, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

It's done. The current image is being used on one canon article and two fanon. Proposal #1 (be mindful of cache problems) is used on three fanon articles. Both are being used to depict the same thing: Tu Zin/ghost town. ? Thailog 12:44, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks, I prefer to see the pages images are used on before making that call. ^^" Now that I can see that; proposed image #1 should be the one used. Vulmen (talk • contribs) 16:01, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

I say the proposed image #1, b/c it doesn't have the distraction as Lady said, as well as the fact it shows the run down nature a tad better. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 23:00, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
The proposed image will replace the current one.
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Amon

10-13-2011

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File:AmonHD.png|Current image
File:Amon.png|Proposed replacement #1
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The current picture doesn't show his "face" clearly. And even when you enlarge it, you cannot see it completely. The proposed image also shows more of him. ? Thailog 19:11, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 19:43, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Though I may not be the most reputable source for approval is disapproval here, I say that the current image is better. Fantada (talk • contribs) 20:17, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

I personally think the current image is fine. It really represents his supposed dark, antagonistic reputation. The background in the proposed image is also a bit bright and cluttered (talking about the background figures), so I say keep the current image. The Ultimate Waterbender 20:26, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

I actually like the proposed image better, as we get coloration and more of him, looking toward the viewer. However, uh, was this a concept art prior to finalizing him? Mm, maybe not. The images are still quite close. But yeah I like the proposed image better, you even get to see that "oh, he has a red circle on his mask." Vulmen (talk • contribs) 22:00, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think the current image represents him a lot better, like Ultimate said. The proposed replacement seems to be some sort of concept art or art prior to the finalization of his character. I could be wrong though. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 23:05, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

If the proposed is a concept art, then it wouldn't be best to use it, would it? Anyways, I'm neutral on this. Both are equal in quality, and are easily identifiable as Amon. But if I were given the choice, I would prefer the current image per Ultimate. Axiovatar Talk 01:21, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I prefer the current image. The proposed is a bit too bright and there's the fact that it's concept art, like Vulmen said. The good thing about the proposed image is that it shows his full 'face', but I still prefer the current one. --Aang20791 Fanons 20:44, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

I say the current one. We don't know much about Amon yet, and the dark, mysterious feel from the current image suits him well. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 21:17, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea if it's concept art. The Russian AW doesn't have a source... ? Thailog 00:16, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

I pro the current image, mostly for ARG's reasons. I also think that the proposed might be concept art because of this picture. It is also a picture of Amon against that same bright yellow background, but the two depictions of Amon are significantly different from each other. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 09:35, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

To clarify, the proposed image is a concept art. I don't have a source off the top of my head, but I have a copy saved on my PC which I took from a website with all of the concept images from Comic Con.

Now, to discussion. I am really not sure about this one, seeing as the proposed image is concept art, meaning just that, it is a concept of Amon. Yes, it shows more of his "face", but the current image is a proper canon image. I'm very neutral on this, but those are my thoughts on the images. Rassilon of Old ^{(Wall - Help)} 11:06, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Here's another idea that no one is probable to take me up on - could we somehow use the picture of Amon from the recent "Legend of Korra" poster (with Korra, Bolin, and Mako in the foreground)? At the very least, I'm pretty sure the depiction of him there is not mere concept art, and it did have a pretty good headshot of him. Toph's Fanboy Fanon #1 Fanon #2 http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/flutflutflyer/TokkaSpriteSig.png 16:38, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think that we should stick to the image from the trailer. It's the only official footage we have and I think that should be used over any concept art, if possible. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 17:42, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

I actually support the proposed image. The current one is satisfactory, but I prefer the proposed because it shows a little more of him._{Back for Korra Folks :)  Talk  Contribs  Following}  20:32, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
The current image will remain unchanged.
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Kya

10-30-2011

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File:Kya.png|Current image
File:Kya_smiling.png|Proposed replacement #1
File:Kya2.png|Proposed replacement #2
</gallery>

We don't know much about Kya, that is true, but her current picture depicts her as being very serious while in the proposed one she is smiling (more or less). Imo, this better depicts her as the lovable mother and wife that she was. Her skin complexion also seems to be closer to the dark skin, typical for Water Tribe people. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 17:05, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, as I also definitely am for the picture change. It goes with her loving persona she directed toward her children & Katara. Vulmen (talk • contribs) 17:08, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

per Vulmen. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 22:53, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Same here. I would also like to add that the proposed image is less of a close up than the current one. Axiovatar Talk 02:00, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

I like the proposed image, except that it would be better if it was made a bit more close. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 16:29, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

The quality of the proposed image is pretty bad... It seems very pixilated when viewed up close. I'd support it if a better version was uploaded. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 16:35, October 13, 2011 (UTC) Okay, I've tried to make it less "pixilly" in the second proposal. Problem now is that the picture has lost part of it sharpness :-/
@Natsu: this picture is already a cropped down version of a larger picture. Cropping it even further would do the quality of the image no good I think. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 17:18, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

In light of the available images of Kya I've been able to find, I think I'll have to stick to the current. In all we see of her, she's stuck in a difficult situation, so I think it's a good enough depiction of her. --I'm The Bos - ^{Talk - Guardian} 18:05, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

I've run a "test" to see how the pictures would look in an infobox and the pixilated picture really isn't an annoyance at all. So I am stil in favor of changing it because, although we know little about her, I don't feel like the current picture is a good depiction of her. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 18:15, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm actually against the proposed change, because the current image displays a couple things. The first is that she has an idea that she could die very soon (which in fact occurs) and the second is that I feel that Bryke wanted to portray her as a visible martyr of the War. Katara uses the sorrow and hidden rage from witnessing her mother's murder as a driving force during the series, and enables her to draw some closure during her confrontation with her mother's killer, Yon Rha. Choosing a slightly happier image of her may work in the short run, but it will quickly lose its original meaning by doing so. Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem 18:30, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

That same argumentation could easily be used in favor of the change: by using an image where she attempts to smile, we depict perfectly her bravery through it all. She knew she was in a serious situation, but still she tried to put up a happy face for her daughter, also something that Bryke tried to portray. The fact that Katara uses her mother's dead as a force in the series, has nothing to do with Kya being depicted slightly happier here. She didn't witness her mother being killed as she was send away. The proposed picture is how Katara saw her mother alive for the very last time. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 19:05, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Per Lady Lostris's reasoning, I'm inclined to think that the proposed image is the better one. The fact that she's concerned for Katara's emotional well-being even when under threat by Yon Rha is pretty much essential to how the character ought to be grasped by the fans, not the idea that she's completely stoic and unconcerned for anyone in the midst of her trauma. Also, anyone who pays a decent amount of attention to the picture can tell she's not really happy or in happy circumstances; it's quite obvious she's faking it for someone else's benefit, which shows her maternal nature. (Also, in the proposed image we get a fuller headshot - the one we have now cuts off slightly above her hair-line.) Toph's Fanboy Fanon #1 Fanon #2 http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/flutflutflyer/TokkaSpriteSig.png 19:11, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

LL, she did witness the death, if not by sight; she heard it, but this is beside the point. Yet the current pic has an air of dramatic irony surrounding it, since Katara didn't see her mother at that moment, and didn't know she'd be killed, but the audience knew that instant. Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem 20:37, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Er . . . No. She ran to get her father after hearing Yon Rha's threat and then they both stormed in when she was already dead, but that is indeed beside the point. How does the current picture have a sense of dramatic irony in it? She just looks serious, I would even say that she looks kind of plain and that is just not a good character portray of her. The audience may know that she was about to die right after that moment, but that doesn't mean it says anything about her character, the person she was - which is the point of a profile picture. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 20:57, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

I vote for the number 2 one. It makes her stand out more as a heavenly being, (you know, 'cause she's dead...) the slight blurriness helps in a particular way.... I know she isn't supposed to be dead in the picture but it just overall makes her character stand out, in my opinion. :)  Abby • 10/13/11 23:53 (UTC)

My support for #1 still stands, as the second replacement looks blurry. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 00:38, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Edit: My ancient desktop seems to finally be failing me. I was also gonna say that replacement #1 is better as a profile picture b/c it depicts her well. She was a caring mother who willingly sacrificed herself to save her daughter. The current picture is pretty emotionless. TheOldMasters (talk • contribs) 01:32, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Guys, use indentations! It's really hard to read through the discussion. I'm in full support for the proposed replacement, but as I said earlier, I think it should be a bit more closer. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 04:50, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Cropping the picture even further will not be beneficial for the picture's quality as the proposed one is already a zoomed in image. I've tried cropping it further, but if you add the right ration and stuff then, the image becomes very blurry and is just not good. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 09:47, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

I say the second image. It shows the kind, motherly figure she is. The Ultimate Waterbender 22:53, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, the majority seems in favor of the change, only problem, I don't know which proposed picture has the most preference, so let's get this show on the road, shall we?

Voting

Proposal #1

1. Support — – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 16:33, October 21, 2011 (UTC)
2. Support — I wish this one had a higher resolution, but I like the smile. ~Mysteria Femina~ 02:22, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Proposal #2

1. Support — Uhh...let's go with door #2. Vulmen (talk • contribs) 22:58, October 20, 2011 (UTC)
2. Support — Millennia2 16:49, October 21, 2011 (UTC)
3. Support — The Ultimate Waterbender 23:51, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
4. Support — Colours are more fleshed out and I think it paints a better picture than the 1st replacement. Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem 01:44, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
5. Support — BlackMonkey ^{Talk - Fire & Ice} 01:51, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

I vote for one of the proposed pictures, I don't really care which one. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 00:14, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
#2 will replace the current image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Rejected Proposals

Mai

10-06-2011

1. REDIRECT Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/top

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File:Mai.PNG|Current image
File:Mai_ready_to_attack.png|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

I think the profile image of Mai should be changed because it doesn't show her usual stoic/shruiken master personality she had during most of the series. The current picture makes her look angry and the gondala behind her it utterly most distracting. This is why Mai's profile image should be changed. Here we get to see a little of Mai's usual personality and her dominate weapon that defines her. It also brings out Mai's personality as expressionless but ready to strike at any minute. This is my proposal for Mai's profile image change. Mai's best friendMarita 21:11, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

1. REDIRECT Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom