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Approved proposals

Air Acolytes

03-02-2015

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The Acolytes aren't shown very clearly in the current, as the image focuses solely on Tenzin and Korra. In the proposal, the Acolytes are front and center, giving a closer look at their appearance, while also including Shung, one of the organization's leaders. —Random Ranaun ^{(Talk to me!)} 04:51, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 04:56, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. Tono555 06:00, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, much better. AvatarAang7 14:15, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

It got my vote, the proposal. Hopemon (wall • contribs) 03:01, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

The Ultimatum

03-05-2015

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I think this image is better because there's a lot of action and is the best representative image of the episode "The Ultimatum", more than the other, Tenzin and his siblings dueling the Red Lotus; an intensive fight. KYAWATERBENDER

Approved for discussion. I disagree - the focus of the episode and the title is about Zaheer's threat to the airbenders against Korra, which the current image does a far better job of showing. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 19:53, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Disagree, per PSU. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:40, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Metal Clan

03-12-2015

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The Metal Clan refers to all the citizens of Zaofu, not just Suyin's family. As such, I propose to have the infobox image be of the actual citizens. It shows them in the city, is an image of good quality in good lighting, as well as an image in color, thus showing off the typical green and metal colors the citizens of the Metal Clan wear. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 23:02, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 00:52, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Makes complete sense, so I agree with the proposition. Tono555 01:07, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Air Nomads

03-21-2015

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The current image for the page depicts an abandoned Air Temple, that better represents the state of the Air Nomads during the first series. However, as of the end of Korra, there is new life to them as the Air Nation. Either restored temple is a better representation of the nation because they convey both their previous history as pre-genocide Air Nomads, showing temples that have existed through much of Air Nomad history, and current Air Nation, showing the restored temples where Air Acolytes now live. I was against proposing a Northern Air Temple image as that one was destroyed, against proposing an Air Temple Island image as that one wasn't around pre-genocide, and against proposing a Western Air Temple image because that one didn't show up in Korra. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:00, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 17:11, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

Agreed with Omnibender. Let's liven the place up, everything is beter with a little colour. I think the picture of the Eastern Air Temple is the best, as it has the most alive feel. AvatarAang7 21:46, March 22, 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. I feel the Eastern Air Temple is the best bet. Tono555 22:47, March 22, 2015 (UTC)

Jet

03-24-2015

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The proposal is a not such a close-up, better lit, and a nice frontal shot of Jet. His expression is also not so innocent as in the current, without being a full blown "evil" expression, which suits him, since he shown to mostly be a "morally gray" character. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 10:23, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 13:12, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

Support. DyingFlameTsui (wall • contribs) 14:35, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

Anne Heche

04-05-2015

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The proposal is a well-lit shot with a clear and thus less distracting background. My main reason to propose this change, however, is her expression. The current one has her looking slightly upward, which I find very distracting and unsuitable for an infobox image. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 22:48, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 23:41, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

I agree, it does look quite a lot better than the current one. Tono555 23:58, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

Quinton Flynn

04-22-2015

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The orange background in the current image is incredibly distracting and ugly. The proposed is more neutral, well lit, and of good quality. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 22:42, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 22:45, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Agreed - looks much better than the current. Tono555 22:50, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Support for pretty much the same reasons. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 03:24, April 23, 2015 (UTC)

Lightning generation

04-29-2015

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The current image with Azula has a few problems. First and foremost to me, the fact the lightning is being generated under the effects of Sozin's Comet makes it less desirable, since it portrays the technique with a non-standard enhancement that isn't representative of default lightning generation. Secondly, there's the angle. Normally, it wouldn't be bad. The focus in on Azula's hand, the source of the lightning, but the actual lightning around it is very minimal, and the biggest part of the lightning is in the corner of the image. Lastly, something that might be just a pet peeve, is that the buildings make for a distracting background. All of the proposals do away with the Sozin's Comet effect. Proposal 1 is the most similar, since Mako is framed much like Azula, but with a less distracting background, and the source of lightning is much clearer in his hand. Proposal 2 puts a bit more distance, giving better focus to the actual lightning. Proposal 3 is also similar to the current, but with a different angle. Unfortunately, I find the presence of the biplane structures to be a bit distracting as well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:45, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I would be fine with either proposal 1 or 3, as I believe proposal 2 is a bit too far off to be suitable for a profile image of the technique. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 21:25, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Personally, I believe it should stay the same, if not for the sole reason that the current image is part of the very last story of the Last Airbender and the actual shot itself is of greater significance than almost any other. I also do not believe we should be burying the Last Airbender under the Legend of Korra. Duke of  Skibbington Fanon - Wall 04:15, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with PSU that proposal 2 is a little too far off, but I am all right with either one or three. I do like proposal one better, though. Tono555 04:31, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Duke of Skibbington, that's rather poor reason. The purpose of the image is to make a good show of the article's subject. The current image's "importance" for the story should have no bearing in this. And there is no burying of ATLA. The four main bending arts have ATLA images, as do energybending, healing, metalbending, and seismic sense. Back on topic, I too am partial to proposal one. I added more than one to generate discussion. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:58, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

I prefer proposal 3 over 1, as I think that 1 kind of has the same problem as the current, with the person shooting it being kind of prominent. So my vote goes out to three. AvatarAang7 (My wall - My fanon) 21:38, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

I support proposal 1. DyingFlameTsui (wall • contribs) 23:51, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

I'd have to go with proposal 1. Soren7550 (wall • contribs) 14:12, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Greg Baldwin

06-11-2015

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The proposal is a more centered, well-lit, shot of Greg with a more appealing expression. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 08:44, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 12:17, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

I agree, as it is more centred with his face being the more salient feature. Indeed, he is also smiling, rather than frowning. Duke of  Skibbington Fanon - Wall 18:11, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

I also agree with the proposal. I necer really liked the current and this one is just overall better. Tono555 21:04, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

The Guide

06-20-2015

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While the current image is of "the" guide", the episode itself wasn't really about Jinora -she was only revealed as the guide in the last minute ... literally. The episode was more about Tenzin, his admission that he can't enter the Spirit World, and eventually, his acceptation of Jinora as a better spiritual guide as him. Both proposals better represent that line of the episode. The first proposal has more focus on Tenzin's acceptance of Jinora, while the second puts more emphasis on the spiritual guide part of it all by including Korra in the scene as well. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 19:21, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. ― Thailog 17:34, June 21, 2015 (UTC)

I think that any of the proposals would be fine, but I really prefer the second one.--Tono555 18:14, June 21, 2015 (UTC)

While I can see why there is a desire to change the image, the two proposed ones don't exactly depict the theme of the episode (Korra getting a guide to the Spirit World), they make it seem like the episode is about Tenzin and Jinora's relationship with one another. So with the current proposed images, I'd have to disagree. Soren7550 (wall • contribs) 02:34, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think an image change is needed, but I don't oppose either of the proposals. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:47, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

@Soren, that's exactly what the episode was about. Read what I said in my proposal comment: while Jinora ends up being the guide in the end, that's 1. the "big" revelation, so having her as the main image is a major spoiler, and 2. Jinora isn't what the episode was about. I'll copy/paste what I said before: "The episode was more about Tenzin, his admission that he can't enter the Spirit World, and eventually, his acceptation of Jinora as a better spiritual guide as him."

@Omnibender: I agree that an image change isn't needed, as the current on is fine, but there are better images to represent the episode as a whole, which is what it is all about. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 09:08, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

This is a tough one to call - I'd be okay with either of the proposals for the reasons given. With that said, I have a slight preference to #1 as Jinora literally became the guide instead of Tenzin, and he grew to accept that. But I also see the strong sides of proposal #2 since it does cover all the episode's bases in one shot. So, either proposal is good with me, but if I had to pick one, I'd choose #1. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? 12:20, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

I see that I'm a minority in thinking that the current is the best, which I'd vote we keep. But, if I have to choose between the proposal's, I'd say #1 is the better one. AvatarAang7 (My wall - My fanon) 21:17, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

Any particular reason as to why it is the best? Besides the "because Jinora is the guide of the episode" as that argument has already been countered twice. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 21:19, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

The Legend of Korra—The Art of the Animated Series, Book Four: Balance

07-27-2015

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Not really a proposal as much as a gauge of opinion. Both covers seem to be official -Amazon is showcasing the proposal, though Google the current. So I guess it's our choice which one we prefer. So, opinions? Lady Lostris /  SOAP 16:46, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I like the proposal because it's a little brighter, but I could honestly be swayed by any comment. I'm on the fence. Frui (🌹 • 🐝 • 🐝🐝) 10:45, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

I think we should use whichever cover is actually on the book when it's published. If both covers are used in the published book, I throw my support behind the proposal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:50, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

I should be inclined to have the former, as it shows Kuvira, a prominent feature in the plot. Raava's reappearance is of less importance. That being said, the latter looks more pleasing. Duke of  Skibbington Fanon - Wall 19:00, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

Obviously if one cover is revealed as the "official" official one that that would have my support. For now, I would say I prefer the current, as Kuvira was a large focus of Book Four and I think that should be represented in some way. HAMMEROFTHØR (wall) • 21:34, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

Like Thor, if one became official, then I would go with that one. That said, I do prefer the current, as Kuvira did have more importance in Book Four than Raava. --Tono555 15:09, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

I'm personally more in favor of the proposal, per Fruipit's argument. Plus, while Kuvira was the villain of Book 4, yes, Korra reconnecting with Raava was a large part of the story as well. You can make a solid argument for both the current and the proposal, but I prefer the proposal for aesthetic reasons. AvatarAang7 (My wall - My fanon) 10:30, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

I am more partial to the proposal. Dark Horse, TFAW, and just about every other comic resource I've visited lists that for the image in the preorder page, so I am more inclined to think that it will become the official image. Regardless, I like the proposal better per previous arguments posed by other users, and due to it placing the sole focus on Korra, making it consistent and more inline with the three other art books. Water Spout 04:42, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Lin Beifong

07-31-2015

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Right, this is really one to gauge some opinions. I have never been a fan of the current, and the word I would use to describe it best would be 'servicable'. I think it almost makes her appear evil, which is something that she most definitely is not. She's just stoical and, in her own words, abrasive, which is something I think the proposal displays better. The one thing the current has over the proposal is, in my opinion, a better background. Flat grey vs. Zaofu, but I still think it's worth having a discussion over. AvatarAang7 (My wall - My fanon) 15:46, July 31, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.

I disagree with this proposal. I never had issues with the current one and especially never saw it as "servicable" or portraying Lin as "evil". It just portray her as stoical -which she is, inquisitive -which she is, and perhaps a bit distant -which she also is. The current perhaps also portrays those things, though adds a worse background to the mix as well as a blank face -and Lin is anything but blank-, which is more undesirable than anything else that could be attributed to the current image. The quality of the proposal image is also not on par with that of the current one. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 16:50, July 31, 2015 (UTC)

Ah, yes. These proposals are always worthy of a discussion, since she is one of people's favorite characters. Anyway, I agree with the proposal. I, too, never liked the current. The fact that she looks more evil than Zaheer is probably why. She isn't always like that - that much can be seen in the fourth season, and possibly in the third too. Sure, she's grumpy - a lot, but not all the time and I feel that it shows after "Old Wounds" when she finally moves on from her past. I feel updating to this image isn't bad, and support the proposal. Tono555 15:57, August 1, 2015 (UTC)

Updating to what exactly, because I'd really like to know where you all seem to see that "she looks evil". In the proposal, she looks blank, which is way worse than an alleged evil look. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 10:42, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

Although she has the same frown in the second image, her face is a bit softer, showing her softer side that comes out in the latter part of Book 1 but totally emerges in Book 3. Duke of  Skibbington Fanon - Wall 18:44, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

Special elaboration for Lostris: the reason I think she looks 'evil' is mostly in the expression, but also partly in the angle and the in the lighting. First of all, her narrowed eyes aren't exactly the most friendly sight, and in the immortal words of Doug Walker, she has Hugo Weaving and Tim Curry's "permanent satanic eyebrows", A.K.A. the the rather large arc they are making. Then there is the downward angle and lighting, both of which exacerbate the previous. The shadows cast over the corners of her eyes and the sides of her forehead make said eyebrows look longer, and for lack of a better word, more satanic. AvatarAang7 (My wall - My fanon) 20:29, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for that elaboration. I totally do not agree with it still, especially not on the eyebrow remark. The unanimated lines that pass as her eyebrows suit her overall bland appearance in that image, aiding to prevent her strong spirit from showing through. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 08:15, August 3, 2015 (UTC)

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Right, seeing how I do agree with Lostris that the quality of the proposal wasn't exactly to write home about, I have asked Tono555 to compress me a picture with better software, and he has. Due to scheduling, I'm uploading it for him, but it is obvious the quality is better, and it also gets rid of a large part of Zaofu in the background. (Do note, the picture here centers a little, therefore it appears more zoomed in than it actually is.) I change my support to proposal #2. AvatarAang7 (My wall - My fanon) 18:45, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

Well, I decided to add my own proposed image. I agree partially with both sides of the debate over the previous proposals; while the image from Zaofu has a too much of a blank, if not flat-out odd expression on Lin, she does look more aggressive than she normally is in the current profile image. The shot I've provided I think makes her stand out from the background, and the cocked brow helps displas her stern, quizzical nature imo. While it might not be perfect, she's neither overly aggressive or overly - well, overly indescribable/weird expression either. I also like how much her badge stands out. Any opinions? --Minnichi 20:29, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

I uploaded a new version of proposal #2 to have it be of proper DVD quality and have a more desirable crop as opposed to an overly close image. That said, it still has to uncharacteristic and undesirable blank look.

Proposal 3 (which I also changed to be a proper png quality image) has a much better expression than 1 and 2, though perhaps the lighting isn't ideal. If consensus is to change the image, which I still don't think is need, but in case it is, then I support 3 as the lighting bothers me way less than the bad expression of 1 and 2. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 00:01, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think the current image has to be changed, but if others want to, I have to throw my support behind proposal 2. Proposal 3 to me looks too bright, and to me, the lines and colors of proposal 2 are better. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:20, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

I support the current image. As LL pointed out, P1 and P2 have undesirable expressions and P3 has bothersome lighting. Water Spout 00:30, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

I support proposal #2. Per others, her face still looks stoic, but without as much of an intense frown. It epitomizes Lin's character, because she is still capable of relaxing. The 4th Avatar 03:12, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Relaxing gives one a calm or perhaps even content expression. I don't see how "being blank" is part of Lin's character, especially not in light of "capable of relaxing". Lady Lostris /  SOAP 08:43, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

While proposal 3 may have bad lightning, I would rather the current image not change than go with proposal 2. I don't see how it's accurate to represent her from an image with an indescribably blank expression sporting completely straight lines for brows, which aren't even her normal features. --Minnichi 09:21, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

I also change my support to proposal two. --Tono555 15:09, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Jinora

08-08-2015

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While the proposal might not have the best lighting and a more prominent background, I personally think Jinora's posture and expression just reflects her character a lot better. The very top of her hair is cut off in that shot, but we can still see her head in general and have a good idea what she styles it like.-- Minnichi 21:09, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, however, I'm a bit iffy to approve it considering this exact same image has been shot down before. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 00:01, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

I like her expression in proposal 2, but her hair being cut off at the top of the image is a no go for me. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:20, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

As you and Omnibender pointed out, the top of her hair is cut off from sight, but the original had Jinora's full head and hair. While I do like Jinora's expression in the proposal, I prefer her original expression in the current image. Plus, in the original, you can see more of Jinora's shoulders and Airbender outfit. And, I don't know if it's an issue for anyone else, but I find the background in the proposal a bit distracting. I don't mean to be a nitpicker, but long story short, I prefer the original pic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SorcererSupreme21 (wall • contribs) 05:02, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

North Pole

09-19-2015

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Shows the northern portal, and overall gives a better feel of the location in addition to being more aesthetic. Harryhogwarts (wall • contribs) 04:54, September 19, 2015 (UTC)Harryhogwarts

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I agree. It's a better representation of how the North Pole looks at in recent time. It's also more similar to the image we're using for the South Pole. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 12:03, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

I also agree with the proposal per the reasons given. Tono555 14:57, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Support, per proposal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:20, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Spirit Wilds

09-19-2015

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Shows the Republic City wilds, and it shows what the wilds look like in the present time, as well as the RC wilds being the most noble and well known at the time. Also, aesthetic purpose. Harryhogwarts (wall • contribs) 04:54, September 19, 2015 (UTC)Harryhogwarts

Approved for discussion.

While I see the reason why you'd like to change, I'm not really on board with the proposed image. While it may be an image of the RC Spirit Wilds, it is hardly recognizable as that without an explicit caption. It is a very dark image of mainly just trees with only a very minor portion of pavement to note it's the RC SW. So for now, I'm still partial to the current one. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 12:03, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

While I would be fine with either, I'm still inclined to keeping the other one. Tono555 14:57, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

I'm more inclined to accept the proposed replacement, as it is much more aesthetically pleasing. Duke of  Skibbington Fanon - Wall 19:16, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

I'm more inclined to keep the current, simply as it is a better depiction of the wilds. Besides, the reemergence of the Spirit Wilds in Republic City is already reflected by another image on the page. Water Spout 16:52, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Banyan-grove tree

09-20-2015

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The old image is poor, very poor in quality and detail. The one from Korra is more detailed and more aesthetically pleasing. Harryhogwarts (wall • contribs) 04:42, September 20, 2015 (UTC)Harryhogwarts

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I don't agree with this proposal. The proposed doesn't particularly offer more details than the current, and the current has the beneficial factor of having better lighting. While sunsets are pretty and cast lovely colors on their surroundings, they do distort the natural colors of things, which make such images less desirable infobox images. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 12:15, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with LL. Images from the first series should not be automatically dismissed as being poor in quality simply because LOK offers "better" screencaps. For this case, the subject is far better depicted by the original. Water Spout 16:52, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

For me it can go either way. The tree itself looks very similar in both images. About the details, I think that applies more to the swamp area adjacent to the tree. I disagree with LL about the color distortion, it's not that different. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:55, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Fair point about the details of the surrounding swamp, but then it's very easy to say: the image is and should be about the tree, so the surrounding swamp has sufficient details and the tree is depicted equally well in both images. As for the colors, how are they possibly the same? Daylight and sunset colors are never the same, hence the natural colors of the tree being "distorted" in the proposal. I don't see how what I said was not correct about that. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 17:00, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not saying that the colors are the same. What I mean to say, is that the color of the sky is, at most, irrelevant. Going by your argument of "image is and should be about the tree", the tree looks the same. The sunset doesn't make the tree suddenly become blue or any other color, the color of the sky does not distort the color of the tree. While the image is about the tree, having the surrounding area with more detail is more like an added bonus, a better composition for the image as a whole. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:08, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, you're definitely right about the color of the sky being completely irrelevant. The color of the tree, however, is not, and the darkened sky due to the sunset also makes the tree looks way darker than normal, which is what I was referring to, sorry if that wasn't clear. The tree should have the shade it normally had, which is the shade it has in daylight. As for the surrounding details, I don't particularly agree with your statement of them being an added bonus and contribute to a better composition of the image as a whole, but since they're quite irrelevant to the discussion about the tree itself, I'm leaving it be. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 17:13, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Well the new image, is artistically more detailed, you see an improvement in terms of artwork. The new one shows better definition of trees, vines, and background details. I understand your view LL, but I like the new one in terms of artistic details, which i feel better embodies the subject. --Harryhogwarts (wall • contribs) 21:58, September 20, 2015 (UTC)Harryhogwarts

The improvement of the artwork argument has already been covered by Thailog, though. But yes, just to be clear, you're very much entitled to a differentiating opinion :-) Lady Lostris /  SOAP 22:01, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

I have to agree with the proposed replacement, for it is more detailed and æsthetically pleasing. Duke of  Skibbington Fanon - Wall 02:52, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

New Ozai Society

10-08-2015

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Proposal image simply has a more aesthetic art style, while keeping many key aspects of the New Ozai Society, such as Ukano, Kei Lo, the Fire Nation hangings, and Ozai's portrait. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:54, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Water Spout 05:07, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Support due to the more aesthetic art style. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 07:13, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Personally, the blank speech bubbles get to me. Since the current one has less, I am inclined to support it. Duke of  Skibbington Fanon - Wall 05:46, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

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I added another proposal in which the speech bubbles are less bothersome, and the orientation of the image is a bit more "straight". I think it's a far better image than the current of the first proposal. Water Spout 20:07, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

I change my support to the second proposal. Ukano is more clearly recognizable, and the attention is readily drawn to Ozai's face as well. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 20:35, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Would have preferred an image with Kei Lo, but better angle and less intrusive speech bubbles are enough for me to change my support from my proposal to Water Spout's. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:03, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

For aesthetic style, I'm already kind of against the drab colorscheme of the current, and I don't like the odd angle of proposal 1. My vote goes out to proposal 2. AvatarAang7 (My wall - My fanon) 11:51, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Support the second proposal. :) Tono555 03:32, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Flying dolphin fish

10-08-2015

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I suggest to change the place of two images in question. The presence of Aang and Kiyi in the current image is sort of distracting, though the image itself would be suited perfectly for the behavioral section. The proposed gives a clear sideview of the fish. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 17:58, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion and I agree. Is there any way to crop out the small dolphin fish in the background? Not a big deal, but it's a little distracting. Water Spout 18:39, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Support, per proposal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:44, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Agreed, the proposal is better on every point. AvatarAang7 (My wall - My fanon) 19:59, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Support, per proposal. Duke of  Skibbington Fanon - Wall 05:47, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Zhu Li Moon

10-24-2015

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By the end of the series, Zhu Li was no longer portrayed as this stoic robot without feelings and especially not as being part of the Earth Empire. As such, I propose to change the image to one of the proposed, where she is wearing normal civilian clothing. The first on has her smiling, which highlights her more emotive side by the end of the show. However, it's downside may be the slant of her head. Proposals 2 and 3 don't have that slant, though their expressions may be less desirable (though they could be considered as tying in better with how she was portrayed as emotionless for a large part of the series). Personally, I don't mind the slant all that much, it's not distracting and the fact that she's smiling definitely covers the minor downside of it. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 10:24, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Personally, I am slightly more partial to PR2, but PR1 is just as fine. Water Spout 02:01, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

Not a fan of the slant in PR1 as well. I also throw my support to PR2, since it lacks the open mouth from PR3. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:37, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

Stupa

11-02-2015

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The stupa is the dome-shaped structure, which in the current image is obscured by the encircling towers. In the proposal, the stupa itself is the main focus and the actual shape and structure is highlighted quite well. Since this is a newly created page, I'd also like to propose that this undergo the one day discussion period if everyone is in agreement. Water Spout 03:52, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.

I don't know. I see your point about the focus, but on the other hand, I do also like that the image for the stupa page is a neutral stupa, with which I mean a stupa that isn't designated to be something specific (like an Avatar Temple) other than a mark for strong spiritual energy. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 08:28, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

I support the proposal per WS' reasoning. While the current is neutral, you really can't see the stupa very well and I feel that it is important to be able to see the stupa since that is what the article is about. Hanabi-chan (wall • contribs) 14:32, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

I think this is a difficult one, as I agree with both Lady Lostris and Water Spout. If I have to choose between on or the other though, I am going to have to go with the current. I think Lostris' reasoning of it not being (visibly) dedicated to a single person or nation is sound, so my vote goes out to keep the current. AvatarAang7 (My wall - My fanon) 14:47, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

No, I don't agree. As LL said, the stupa page is a neutral stupa (which obviously is reflected in the current image); as in the proposed replacement, the image shows the stupa as an Avatar Temple more than a proper stupa. Kyawaterbender (wall • contributions)

Well I think it's more important to showcase the structure rather than the neutrality, because the page is about the stupa after all- why choose a profile image that obscures it when one that highlights it is available? A "proper" stupa in the context of the Avatar World is a hemispherical building characterized by spirituality, and an Avatar Temple fits within that context.

If it really is that important to represent it as being neutral, then a compromise would be to remove the infobox altogether and simply have the proposal image as the new profile image (as is the case with object pages and also the Avatar Temple page, for the same reason of maintaining neutrality), with a description to make it clear that it is not a nation-specific structure. Something along the lines of: "Stupas are often built in remote locations characterized by strong spiritual energy and can often function as Avatar Temples or places of meditation". Water Spout 17:20, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

I'm against the idea of removing the infobox as that's breaking standard format for no reason -and would not solve the "problem" merely move it. That said, I want to clarify that I'm not necessarily against the change, I'm more neutral toward it. I guess there isn't a better image available in the artbooks? Lady Lostris /  SOAP 17:24, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough, and I do see the merit in portraying a generalized stupa rather than a specialized one, though I also do think there's no problem in portraying a specialized one for the purposes of just highlighting the structure alone. The image from the artbook is the current profile image at the moment, and I'm currently looking through all of them to see if I missed any different stupas from the franchise. Water Spout 17:32, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

While I understand the desire to have a "neutral-looking" image, I think that it is more important to be able to see the object of said article. In the current image, one of the towers is blocking the stupa. While the proposal is an EK stupa, the image clearly shows the stupa which makes it more fitting as the profile image for that article. Hanabi-chan (wall • contribs) 15:35, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

I must agree with Lady Lostris, and prefer the current one. DyingFlameTsui (wall • contribs) 11:32, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

Northern Air Temple

11-15-2015

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The current image is too small and have much less details. Лев - черепаха (wall • contribs) 09:53, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.

I do not agree. The proposed image, while it may show more details when enlarged, is too dark for my taste to be used as an infobox image. Additionally, the size doesn't matter, as it will never be used anywhere where it'll show up larger than 250px, making that argument moot. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 10:20, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

Disagree, per Lostris. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 10:34, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

The size does matter if someone wants to look at the image closely, not just in 250px. Why did you make it so small (normal-sized image [avatar.wikia.com/wiki/File:Northern_air_temple.jpg there])? --Лев - черепаха (wall • contribs) 11:05, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

Because that's standard practice on this wiki: there is no need to have large images when we never use them in that size. The images are merely aids to a page, they're not the focus. As such, they're reduced to an easy usable and quick-loading size. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 11:10, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

But what is the point of using images if you can't see what is on them without using a microscope? --Лев - черепаха (wall • contribs) 11:21, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

I can perfectly well see what's going on without a microscope. It's not like our images are blurs or anything, so I don't understand the obsession with size. Anyway, I also flipped the crop of the current image, making it focus even more on the temple and strengthening my support for the current image due to showing an equally detailed temple though with much better lighting. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 11:38, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

The main advantage of my variant is that you can see all details perfectly — every tower, every cell, every wall turn. In small picture you can only see what is going on, I don't think that's enough. --Лев - черепаха (wall • contribs) 11:53, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

For a wiki that places its focus on the written word and not the visual aids -who are just there as a supportive role to the letters- that's more than enough. And again, it's not like you can't see anything on the images that we use, as I'm not sure where you don't see the details of every tower in the current image. From my perspective, they're clearly there. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 12:00, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

I also disagree, per LL. I personally don't see much difference between the two pictures, so while there may be more details in your proposal, it's contrasted by the lighting and dark, distracting background, making it harder to notice any finer details of the picture. The current is fine, and has a well-lit, easy background, and not really distracting. SorcererSupreme21 (wall • contribs) 17:05, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

I disagree as well. The coloring in the proposal is problematic, but more importantly there is no need for a large image like LL said. This is an encyclopaedia, not an image repository. Water Spout 17:58, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

Changing image without changing a size makes no sense. In this image voting I would chouse the current one, but that's not what i suggested. Лев - черепаха (wall • contribs) 11:25, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

There's a lot of sense in changing the image without changing the size, as some images may have better lighting, better depiction of character, better visualization of a subject, etc. And as said before, the size argument is irrelevant on this wiki. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 21:40, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

Kei Lo

11-23-2015

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I wish to propose this as a new image because of his drastically updated appearance in the Smoke and Shadow Part One comic. Hiikou (wall • contribs) 21:28, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.

Given the update, I definitely agree that the image needs to be updated, though I'm not quite sure that the current proposal is the right fit, as the "mid sentence" look and the rather extreme side-view are pretty distracting. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 21:40, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

I agree that it could be a bit better in expression and angle, but nfortunately there aren't any other images of his close-up face without being obscured by something. Hiikou (wall • contribs) 22:27, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

I have no access to images to upload at the moment, but I believe the close up on page 22 might be usable. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:03, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

Do you mean this one? It does look like a better candidate in my opinion, I guess I just missed it. Hiikou 『レンハイ』 04:54, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

That's the one. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:56, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

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I uploaded the option Omni brought up, which I also believe is a better alternative. The hand and direction he is facing are not perfect per se, but I've combed through this comic a dozen times and I don't think there is a better alternative. Water Spout 20:06, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

It's definitely the best out of all three. I go with the second proposal. Tono555 20:23, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

Support #2, it's not perfect, but it's the best we currently have. We can always change it to something better if it would come along in the following comics. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 20:46, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

Support for #2. DyingFlameTsui (wall • contribs) 15:13, November 25, 2015 (UTC)

Wolf spirit

12-30-2015

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I find it distracting that the current image depicts the spirit in motion with Appa cropped in the background, as both the motion lines and the other creature distract from the subject being portrayed. Water Spout 20:54, December 30, 2015 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.

I'm not opposed to the change, though it's not absolutely necessary for me. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 21:11, December 30, 2015 (UTC)

Support for the proposal. DyingFlameTsui (wall • contribs) 21:15, December 30, 2015 (UTC)

Support. The fact that Appa is at the background can be distracting, as well as an entire view of its body will be better than just its head.Kyawaterbender (wall • contributions) 18:35, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

I have nothing against the current, like Lostris, but I believe that the proposal does depict the spirit better. --User:Tono555/Sig2 23:51, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Kemurikage

01-01-2016

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The current image consists of impostors and not the actual spirits from the myth, which the proposal depicts. Water Spout 07:50, January 1, 2016 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.

I agree, and unless someone has a different image they'd like to suggest of the real Kemurikage, I'd also suggest applying the one day rule here, since the proposal aims to correct a factual inaccuracy. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 20:54, January 1, 2016 (UTC)

Jennifer Hale

01-02-2016

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Nothing wrong with the current, save for its size: it's too small for our infoboxes, which means that the image is stretched out and thus appears blurry on page. The proposal would fix that issue. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 09:10, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

Approved for discussion and I agree. Water Spout 22:41, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

While I prefer her position in the current, quality may in this case win over position of subject. SorcererSupreme21 (wall • contribs) 05:23, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

Brittney Williams

01-07-2016

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It's in color and better quality. Considering this is a change for a new page, I'd like to invoke the 1 day rule. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 13:23, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Approved for discussion and I agree. Water Spout 09:20, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

Support, I just wanted to comment and add that I put the original image in, it was the only one I could find at the time and for some reason I thought that new articles didn't need to go through the PIC process, otherwise I would have waited until a better image was found. It's been a while lol. Anyways, my point is support the proposed is definitely better than the current. Fire Ferret 20:04, January 8, 2016 (UTC)