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Approved proposals

Ba Sing Se

10-02-2014

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Much like the Misty Palm Oasis, Ba Sing Se changed a lot, and the main image should reflect those changes. The image is already is even already used within the article. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:06, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
While I absolutely agree that the image needs to be showcased to depict the changes to the city, I do not find it good enough to be an infobox image. The glaring sun in the background is distracting and it prevents you from truly noticing the other ring that is clear in the current image. As such, I still prefer the current over the modern city. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:16, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Support PR 1. I agree with Omnibender. The glare of the sun is minimal, and the far wall is still visible. The changes are very noticeable, with the rail no longer sticking way above the roofs of all the houses. It just has the busier, more chaotic feel that it had in LoK vs TLA. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 17:35, October 3, 2014 (UTC)


I've added three other proposals that show the more modernized look of the city, though I still feel that proposal one is the best, as it showcases both the urban growth and the size of the city, which isn't apparent in the other images, which show at most a few buildings. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:43, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

I still disagree with the additional proposals... none of them really depict the spralling metropolis that BSS is. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 17:35, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

I support proposal 1. The left half of the image is the same exact scene depicted in the current image and it shows just how much things have changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mts606 (wallcontribs) 15:28, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Baatar Jr.

10-03-2014

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The proposed is an overall better shot: it depicts him as he is in 174 AG, it's of better quality, better lightning, and a better positioning. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:48, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I definitely agree. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 14:50, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
I support the proposed Hopemon (wallcontribs) 14:54, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
Support per the reasoning given. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:00, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
I agree with replacement #1 it's better. Mkamind (wallcontribs) 17:54, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Kai

10-03-2014

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The proposed depict his in his 174 AG appearance in better lighting with a hint of the new airbender's uniform. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:48, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 14:50, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
I agree with the proposed photo as he look older now. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 14:55, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
Support per the reasoning given. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:00, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Bolin

10-04-2014

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The current isn't really the best image for a profile. The focus should be on Bolin without any distractions, however with Pabu in the way, this becomes impossible. The proposed has a better angle and expression Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 03:23, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 05:51, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
I oppose. There is nothing wrong with the current, especially not considering how prominent Pabu usually is when Bolin is around. Also, we should hold off with picturing Bolin in the uniform of Kuvira's army because we don't know if he'll remain a soldier. Making it the infobox image is making a premature claim that the "soldier boy" is his most recognizable form. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:42, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
I oppose as well. I agree with Lady Lostris that Pabu is a very prominent part of Bolin's life, and can be a prominent part of the picture as well. I also think the new hairstyle isn't very visible, and to me, that would be one of the primary reasons to change it. Lastly, I think the 2:2.5 aspect ratio is very weird. Why do it when it's not impossible to cut one in a "standard" 4:3 ratio? Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 13:34, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

I support the proposal. We've seen Bolin wearing that outfit well into later episodes during the trailer and the inclusion of Pabu isn't as important as keeping an up to date photo of his new appearance. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 16:34, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

And what source has told you that Bolin is wearing that outfit "well into later episodes"? Because I was not aware that the trailer revealed from which episodes it has taken shots, so if you know from which episodes those shots come, please share the knowledge. If you don't have such a source, claiming that the trailer uses shots from "well into later episodes" is pure speculation. Besides, for all we know he just keeps on the uniform due to lack of other clothing while opposing Kuvira, which would thus make it ridiculous to make the uniform part of his defining infobox image if he doesn't identify with it. So to reiterate my previous statement: it's way too early to claim that Bolin is now definitely know as the "soldier boy". Making such a claim is premature. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:48, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
I oppose as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 17:15, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Lefty

10-05-2014

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Pretty straightforward. Lefty has grown up, it is a good shot with good lighting, no significant action and a calm background. It's very similar to Appa's infobox picture, which has Aang and Sokka on it, this one has Kai and Opal. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 20:12, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:31, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

I support the proposed image, as it provides a more profile-worthy view and is similar to Appa's profile image in its perspective. shock (talk) 07:00, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Train

10-05-2014

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Current image is from a very specialized, non-standard train. Proposal showcases a more standard looking, and more modern train. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:27, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion and I agree. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 18:31, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
Given the fact an entire infrastructure had to be laid for it, yes, it is reasonable to say proposed is a more standardized vehicle. Agree with PR #1. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 19:44, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
I also agree with the new pic. And you can see the train too. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 19:47, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

I support the proposal. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 20:44, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Buttercup Raiko

10-06-2014

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I propose this change for obvious reasons: The proposal is much better lit, and has a better angle. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 20:47, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:55, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

It's a better photo overall; lighting, positioning of the head, and just a better picture overall. I agree. AdamantiumBladez (wallcontribs) 23:19, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Airbender wingsuit

10-06-2014

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Both images are already on the page, but I suggest we switch their places. The proposed shows the true meaning of "wingsuit" as it depicts Kai and Opal in full flight, revealing the wings of the suit as well as a good shot of the rest of the outfit. The current image does a good job depicting how the suits look when closed, but I think that shouldn't be the primary image of these suits. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:48, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I agree. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 10:50, October 6, 2014 (UTC)
Support proposal per reason given. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 15:48, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Book Four: Balance

10-09-2014

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The proposed is the New York Comic Con 2014 - Legend of Korra poster which does a better job as the book's profile image than the current in my opinion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 18:34, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Standard operating procedure by now, so, agreed with the proposal. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:37, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
Since it's a fairly new page I'd also suggest fast-tracking this proposal. I agree. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 19:17, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
I agree. The other picture should still be on the page, though, but just not as the profile picture. The other poster picture works a lot better than the other one as a profile picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SorcererSupreme21 (wallcontribs) 03:06, October 10, 2014‎ (UTC)


Air Nomad caves

10-11-2014

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This is more a "let's throw the option out there"-proposal. There is nothing really wrong with the current, except for the presence of the two flying bison which has always been a distracting factor for me. The proposed doesn't have any such distractions, though it is a further off shot. The downsides of that are that you don't have such details from the statues, though you do get a better visual of the surroundings of where the caves are situated. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:05, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 22:15, October 11, 2014 (UTC)
I like the proposed better. Support. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 23:06, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Tonraq

10-13-2014

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The current image isn't ideal for a few reasons. Firstly the image doesn't show a lot of Tonraq, most profile images cover the top of the head to at least the chest. Secondly, the current image cuts off the top of Tonraq's head, and doesn't show much of his clothes. The first image may not be ideal seeing as it is taken in a nighttime setting, and so I've also added in the second proposal, which has a daytime setting, and also shows more of Tonraq's body with more of a neutral expression on his face. Obviously any other image suggestions are welcome. Thoughts? Rassilon of Old (Wall - Help) 04:56, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 04:58, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with you that the current isn't the best, but I think neither one of the proposals is better. Like you said, the first proposal is a bit dark, and we have been discussing the same issue with Kuvira's profile picture for three weeks, while these discussions usually wrap up in a few days. The second one may be better, but it's blurry, seeing how he is in the background during that shot. Plus, it doesn't show how he has aged in Book 4, which would seen like the main reasson to change it. I say we wait for a daytime shot, I'm sure it will here soon. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 08:26, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

The second proposal is completely inappropriate as a profile image, and the third just looks weird; none of his features are defined. I have no problems with the current image. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 08:29, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
I oppose. The current image, while it's only downside is that it cuts off part of Tonraq's head, has both proposals beat is personality representation, lighting, quality, and posture, all things that are beneficial for an infobox image. The first proposal is too dark and Tonraq generally doesn't sport a goofy smile, and the second proposal is of low quality and also depicts Tonraq with an uncharacteristic facial expression. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:33, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
Per Fruipit and Lady Lostris, I oppose. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 11:13, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
I am with Avatar Aang7, let wait till we see him in the daylight. He might appear in this week episode. As he is in the city to see the prince to become the next earth king. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 18:16, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Elbow leech

10-17-2014

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Better quality and better lighting. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:38, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Agreed. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 10:41, October 17, 2014 (UTC)
Agreed on lighting. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 10:51, October 17, 2014 (UTC)
Like AvatarAang7 said, it's got better lighting so I agree as well. User:Tono555/Sig 2 15:16, October 17, 2014 (UTC)
I agreed with the above posts, it way better on the lighting. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 16:12, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

City Hall

10-17-2014

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Basically, Republic City is filled with spirit vines now, proposal showcases that. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:42, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:23, October 17, 2014 (UTC)
Agreed, the Republic City Hall image should be changed because that is how it is now, the proposal shows it very well. Tono555Korra-chao2wall-my contributionsAang Sprite Season 3 14:50, October 18, 2014 (UTC)

Support with the new one. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 22:09, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Support with replacement 1.Firetornado3006 16:26, October 20, 2014 (UTC+12)

Unalaq

10-22-2014

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Better angle, better expression. Lord Hyōga Spirit Emblem Tree of Ages 08:56, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 08:59, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
Support. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 11:17, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
Support. I've always though Unalaq looked almost too benevolent in the current image. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 12:16, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'm up for the new one, support. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 22:08, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Support. Much better viewing angle and no distracting objects in the background. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 23:36, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
Support with replacement 1.Firetornado3006 16:28, October 20, 2014 (UTC+12)

Hundun

10-22-2014

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First of all: Those who have not yet played the game but want to, don't read the rest of my reasoning, as it contains a major spoiler. Now to the image. The current one is of poor quality, dark, vague and with poor facial expression. The proposal, however, is rather well lit, centered, not too far off and shows the typical calm, yet utterly evil Hundun (with the characteristic smile). The only downside of the proposal, imo, is that it does not show Hundun's brother. However, all scenes that contain the latter show Hundun is total rage, which does not fit his "everyday" personality (at least from what we saw most of the time). DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 00:18, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 01:02, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

I support the proposal due to better lighting and it is centered. Also, in the current, I keep mistaking the red markings on his hat for the red lotus symbol. I like that the proposal highlights the red markings as to differentiate them from the red lotus symbol. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 01:13, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

I disagree, the article is about Hundun and his conjoined brother, so the infobox picture should show both of them unless we split the article in two, but as they are always together that make no sense. It's like an infobox picture of Lu without Gang or a picture of Wei without Wing, it's make no sense. I updated a picture of them together earlier, but an admin deleted it because it was of poor quality, if someone want to upload an HD quality picture of the two as a second proposal, I will support it.Maxattac (wallcontribs) 01:53, October 22, 2014 (UTC)


I added the proposal I was talking about yesterday. It's not ideal, but at least we can see both of them. Maxattac (wallcontribs) 22:19, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

I might add one more point in favor of proposal 1. As said during the game, Hundun's brother never fully healed, and his actions during the game were pretty much completely controlled by his brother. In that way, Hundun represented both of them. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 22:45, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
I'd have to say proposal 1, since I'm guessing that proposal 2 is kinda spoiler-y. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 23:08, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Pepper

10-24-2014

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The current doesn't meet most of the specs, it's the wrong ratio, and it's just an all around pretty awkward shot. The proposed replacement is, in my opinion, more profile worthy. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 09:35, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 11:49, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
I oppose. The current is better lit and of good quality. There is nothing awkward about it. The only downside is that it is indeed not in the traditional ratio, though for now that is still better than having a dark shot of the animal as the ratio isn't that terrible that it distracts from the subject. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:23, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Current is better like what Lady Lostris said. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 13:44, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Ikki

10-24-2014

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A well-lit, good quality image depicting Ikki as an eleven-year-old with a nice and fitting expression, as well as donning her new airbender wingsuit attire. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:52, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 11:49, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. It's a good representation of the character three years later. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 13:17, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed with the proposed photo.Hopemon (wallcontribs) 13:46, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Support per reasons. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 16:54, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Jinora

10-25-2014

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This is another one of those ... "eh, let's let the majority decide." The current is becoming unsuitable due to being vastly outdated: it shows Jinora as a child without her tattoos and her old hairdo and attire. The proposal on the other hand fixes all that, though has the big downside that she is not looking at the camera but somewhere in the distance, which could be seen as distracting. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:07, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 10:08, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
While I agree that the profile image should be updated, I really don't like the proposal. Besides Lady Lostris' note that she is not looking in the camera, I also think that her facial expression is too neutral, unlike the optimistic yet calm Jinora we know. Of course this subjective, but I oppose proposal #1. When somebody has a better, updated proposal, however, i would support it. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 14:27, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
I am with DyingFlameTsui, and also we did had a profile image of Jinora looking the other way before. So this wouldn't be the first if this is pick. Also the others I can think of have shadow covering her face. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 16:09, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
I also agree with DFT. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 15:44, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Military of the Earth Empire

10-25-2014

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The proposal is one of those "maybe" shots. It definitely needs to be on the page, though the question is "as it's infobox image or not". The benefits of the current are that it clearly shows the symbol the army is fighting under and its leader as well as some soldiers. However, the focus is on the leader and the symbol. In proposal #1, we see the true size of the army and the different machinery it consists off. It is clearly a picture of an army, though it lacks a true focus on the symbol. Proposal #2 does a good job focusing on tanks and the symbol, though it excludes infantry and air force. At this point, I would be inclined to support #2 as the infobox image, place the current in the history, and proposal #1 somewhere on the page detailing about the force of the army. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:35, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I actually prefer proposal #1 for the simple reason that it is an army, and such a shot that it shows the sheer magnitude of said army. That being said, I'm not adverse to the current, nor the other proposal. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 09:51, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
I also prefer PR1 to show the entire force of the military, though I would not object to PR2 either. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:19, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
I think that the first proposal should be the new replacement as it shows the size of the army Kuvira has while the current photo just shows her conquering Yi which isn't really important. Tono555Korra-chao2wall-my contributionsAang Sprite Season 3 13:31, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
I support the first proposal for the reason given from above. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 16:11, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
I support with the first proposal because it shows Kuvira's all round army. Firetornado (wall)
I'd have to go with Proposal 1, but I'm not against keeping the current. P1 shows off a lot more of the army than the current and P2, but then again, the current shows Kuvira with her army concurring a territory. At the very least, the current should be on the page regardless if it's the profile image or not. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 23:08, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Protester

10-29-2014

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The current image shows him as being a dark, maybey even evil man. The proposed image shows him as he is. A grumpy, unpleased man. It is also in a better light. AvatarfanSLO (Wall) 12:29, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:40, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed, it does show him as who he is, and has better light, so you definitely have my support. Tono555Korra-chao2wall-my contributionsAang Sprite Season 3 14:58, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

I support the proposal per the reasons given above. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 17:19, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Mecha tank

10-31-2014

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Simply put, I believe that the current, more modern mecha tank should be the one used in the main image. Both images show the Earth Empire mecha tanks. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:55, October 31, 2014 (UTC)


Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:58, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
Actually, I believe that these are not even mecha tanks. They are only called "mechas" in the show, not "mecha tanks", and are technically extremely different from the old mecha tanks. So I oppose the proposal. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 22:03, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
It should get its own page titled Earth Empire Mechs.KevinTriforce Talk 05:49, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
Considering that the tanks clearly are the modernized version of Hiroshi's models, they should not get their own page. This wiki does not create pages because we can. We have always tried to group relevant pages together, which in this case means no separate page for those tanks. As for the image, I support changing it to the more modernized tank. Proposal #2 has my preference as it shows both a frontal and a side view of the tanks as well as highlights its mobility and new features. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:05, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
Then we should also rename the page to "Mechas", as the new versions lack all tank features. As of now, the proposals would not correctly represent an article named "Mecha tank", as they don't show mecha tanks. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 11:32, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

The renaming of the page is a discussion to be held in the War Room, this discussion is solely about the profile picture. I support Proposal #2, given that it is both an awesome shot, but more importantly, it shows off all the main features of the tank. Most of the tank is on display, and being an action shot, it has the benefit of giving both a front and a side view of the tank. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 18:36, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

I support proposal 2 per Lady Lostris and AvatarAang7's reasons. Can we keep the current profile somewhere on the page though? The older models were used by Hiroshi, Asami, and Hundun's forces, therefore, I think it's important that we keep the old profile somewhere as it showcases the older mecha tanks. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 15:56, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Baatar Jr.

10-31-2014

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I feel the proposed displays his personality much better than the current image as well as having more detail. The current also shows him with an awkward expression that lacks focus. In the proposed it's very clear that he's looking at a person and having a conversation, while in the current he could be looking at anything, or nothing. The second proposal is with a less angry expression Thoughts? --Mandon (wallcontribs) 19:08, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I oppose. The current image does not display him with awkwardly. To offered reason to say that it is, is that it is "clear that he's looking at a person and having a conversation", though that is as evident in the current as it is in either proposal, so that makes it moot as a reason. The only thing that the proposals have over the current is the quality, though the fact that they display him either angry -which he only is when facing his family, thus it is a bad representation of his overall personality- or semi-surprised -which he also is not overall, also making it a bad representation of his overall personality- are more distracting to me than the lesser quality of the current. The proposals are also rather close up, cutting the top of his head off while making him very "in your face". The fact that the current shows him in a good lighting with an expression that he sports most of the time make up for the minor quality in comparison with the downsides of the proposed. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:20, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
I oppose per Lady Lostris' reasons. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 14:41, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Lavabending

10-31-2014

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While the current image depicts a very powerful act of lavabending, it does so in the background of the image. The proposal showcases lavabending as the foreground of the image, and the lava is much more detailed. The proposal also shows a native earthbender doing the lavabending instead of someone from another nation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:40, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:52, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Disagreed. While Omnibender makes a few good points, the thing I think is wrong with this picture is that it is very blurry, especially the lava in the foreground, which is the problem we are trying to fix. I say we keep the current image. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 18:33, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

I oppose. You can barely see Bolin bending the lava, so it kind of looks like an uncontrolled lava flow. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 14:38, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
So? In the main image for metalbending you can only seen Toph's hand. And besides, the main focus of the image should be the bending, not the bender. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:46, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Baatar

11-03-2014

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While the proposal is not perfect, it is much clearer, better lit and of the right size compared to the current image. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 15:31, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:08, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

I added a second proposal that is of better quality and has him facing the camera. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:13, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with proposal 2. Better lighting, better clarity, better quality. Only downside is the expression but even that's an improvement from the original. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 18:10, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Kuvira

11-07-2014

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Considering the current image was heavily debated due to Kuvira looking too bored, I propose another one where she still looks stern, though not as "bored" as new. It is also in a decent lighting and of great quality. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:07, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:12, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Full support. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 18:34, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

I support as well. The lighting and her expression are really good. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 01:17, November 8, 2014 (UTC)
Support. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs)

Support Support — - User:Firetornado3006 18:00, November 8, 2014 (UTC +12)

I prefer the angle of the current image, it looks more central.User:-Darjeeling-
I still prefer the current image as well. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 23:48, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Baatar Jr.

11-07-2014

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Lighting, angle, detail. I'll admit my last proposal was pretty bad in hindsight but I think this image is an all around improvement to the original in every way. The lighting is just as good, it showcases his personality just as well, and the angle is all around better. Thoughts? Mandon (wallcontribs) 20:06, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion; however, please make sure to format your proposals properly in the future - this proposal was lacking the {{/top}} and {{/bottom}} tags. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 20:13, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
I oppose. I think that the current image has the perfect lighting and angle, and in my opinion it also fits his personality better than the proposal. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 13:48, November 8, 2014 (UTC)
Per DFT: the current, while slightly less in quality, depicts Baatar Jr. with an expression he usually sports, has a good angle and good lighting. Baatar Jr. is not the sour person most of the time that the proposal makes him out to be. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:51, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

The proposed depicts his normal personality just fine. It's just a normal expression, and it's not occurring in any situation where he's angry or "sour". It doesn't show him looking down either nor is it upscaled and stretched from cropping, which is a major plus. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 20:10, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

It's not a normal expression considering he's bordering sulking with his lip so downcast. And as noted last time: Baatar Jr. is only depicted to look sour and/or angry when he is in the vicinity of this family. All other times, he's either neutral or bordering smug, which makes this sulky expression not a normal one. Just a general remark though, the current image is only cropped. That's the only image editing that went on there, and it is without a doubt that the proposal is of better quality, though that does not mean that the current is of bad quality. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:34, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

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I don't have any issues with the current, but I added another proposal that has Baatar Jr. facing the camera with a more neutral expression, just to throw another option into the mix. —Random Ranaun (Talk to me!) 21:59, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Still current for me, as I wouldn't call that a neutral expression. Not really sure what I'd aptly call it beyond, "funny-looking" ^^". Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:03, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Second proposal makes him look sad. But as far as what you said LL, I should point out that Jr wasn't in the vicinity of his family in the proposed. He was talking to Bolin and Varrick and wasn't under any kind of emotional stress that would make him look agitated, angry or sour. So as far as his mouth looking like he's frowning goes.. that's coincidental. The current image doesn't depict his natural personality either. Ideally we'd want an image that conveys his smugness more, since that's his most prominant personality trait, but neither image does that. The current image is just him looking normal without conveying any of his trademark emotions, while the proposed also shows him looking normal but with a little more of his overall harshness. Ultimately I think quality should > minor issues with conveying a personality accurately. Just take the Kuvira image poll we had a few weeks ago. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 05:08, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

You're right, it wasn't taken when in the vicinity of his family. You're wrong, however, to claim that he wasn't agitated as the shot was taken when he was opposing Varrick and Bolin, tho people who refuse to see his ideology and love for Kuvira just like his family doesn't see his vision the same way. So in a way, they're the same to him. And coincidental or not, it still looks like he's frowning. The current image, while I acknowledge that its not perfect, still depicts his natural personality better than either proposed, so that's a plus for that image. You are exaggerating the bad quality of the current image as well as minimizing the issues in personality portrayal. Also, the Kuvira poll is irrelevant to this, so it's moot to bring that up. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:30, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
I think this third proposal would be a better profile image for Baatar Jr. because it shows more of his face. He is in a metal environment, in his uniform, which clearly shows that he works for the Earth Empire Military. He is also showing a rather angrier face, rather than a smiley one in the current image, which reflects his personality. Firetornado3006 (wallcontribs) 04:55, November 10, 2014 (UTC)
I removed the third proposal as it would have never been accepted in a separate proposal. The open mouth is unsuited for a profile image, especially when suggestions that avoid it are available. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 05:01, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

I amittedly haven't read most of this discussion, but i oppose the change. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 16:02, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Zhu Li

11-08-2014

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Apart from the current image being extremely outdated (she hasn't been seen wearing her Water Tribe outfit in nearly two Books), the proposal depicts Zhu Li in greater focus, looking toward the camera as well having less shadows obscuring her face. It also shows her as a member of the Earth Empire military, which is a major part of her most prominent role in the series thus far. —Random Ranaun (Talk to me!) 07:57, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:49, November 8, 2014 (UTC)
Support per given reasons. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 16:07, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

The King of Omashu

11-13-2014

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The current image does not follow the standard of most episode titles spotlighting specific characters having an image of that character, e.g. The Fortuneteller, The Earth King, The Puppetmaster, etc. While the current image is high quality and a main setting for the episode, it does not accurately portray the actual title and feature of the episode. Millennia2 Tui and La sprite 05:57, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 07:10, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Metalbending

11-14-2014

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Current image is way too up close to the metal, and you can't see who is the metalbender. Proposal shows a simple case of metalbending in which the metalbender is clearly visible. The metalbending itself is also clearer. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:31, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I disagree. I don't find anything particularly bad about the current image save for the fact that the whole bender isn't actually visible, but I don't think that's necessarily vital when portraying the bending itself. You see the hand of an individual literally bending metal, and bending metal crudely as it is often depicted. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 21:55, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Oppose per Water Spout's reasoning. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 23:00, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

I actually agree with Omnibender. The current barely shows the bending itself, while the proposal does that a lot better. Support PR1. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 11:34, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

Oppose Oppose — because the current image is fine as it is. Fire Nation emblem User:Firetornado3006 (wallcontribs) 04:03, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Healing

11-14-2014

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Current image, while depicting a master, the healer is mostly out of frame, because it's only a demonstration of the redirection of chi on a puppet, there's no actual healing taking place, and there's no actual water in the image. In the proposal, you can clearly see the healer, the one being healed, and the glowing water. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:31, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I disagree. Per my reasoning on the metalbending proposal, I don't see the need to put importance on the visibility of the bender when the page is about the bending. If an image captures the art, then I find it appropriate. The current does a great job of showing the mechanics of healing and I don't think it needs to be changed. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 21:55, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
I disagree. While there is no contesting that the healing is not visible, the healing itself most definitely is. The current image clearly shows the chi patters that are used when healing, as well as the glowing water. Losing that clear representation just to feature a bender is not something I can support. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:58, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Lavabending

11-14-2014

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Same reasons as my previous lavabending proposal, which include non-Avatar earthbender doing it, the bending happening in the foreground as opposed to background, and better looking, more detailed lava, and this time with the worked out issue of having Bolin clearly visible in the pictures doing the bending. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:46, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:57, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

I agreed with you last time around, but I thought the proposal wasn't all that good. These are. It's a tough choice, but I think PR1 has my preference. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 19:12, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

PR1 has my support as well. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 21:55, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
Support Support — Proposal 1 because it shows lavabending, not just a combination of earth and fire bending, but just soely earth. The second proposal is just a tad blur though. Fire Nation emblem User:Firetornado3006 (wallcontribs) 04:01, November 17, 2014 (UTC)
Support the proposal 1 Tono555Korra-chao2wall-my contributionsAang Sprite Season 3 23:31, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Asami Sato

11-14-2014

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Post timeskip, expression is comparable in conveying her personality to the current. Pretty self explanatory since we'll need to update it anyways. Mandon (wallcontribs) 18:35, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:40, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

I support the proposal because of good lighting, quality, expression, and it's up to date. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 04:06, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

Support per ShadowZaHedge's reasoning. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 11:32, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

Oppose Oppose — because the current image shows a close up shot of Asami, while the proposal shows a middle shot of her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Firetornado3006 (wallcontribs) 03:59, November 17, 2014 (UTC)‎

What? That ... does not really make sense. The current and the proposal are equally centered. The only difference is that the current is a tad bit closer, but that's a matter of cropping if need be, though I don't see any issue with that. With these proposals, it basically comes down to whether or not we prefer to have 19-year-old Asami or 22-year-old Asami. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:18, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Support. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 21:39, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

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Sato estate

11-14-2014

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Unlike the current picture, the proposed gives a good overview of the entire estate. I am a little hazy on the lighting, but I don't think it's too dark to be a profile picture. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 12:45, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:11, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Support -Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) Support Support — because it shows the entire Sato Estate, while the first image only shows one close shot of the entrance of the Sato Estate. Fire Nation emblem User:Firetornado3006 (wallcontribs) 03:58, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Hiroshi Sato

11-24-2014

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Post timeskip, frontal and better lighting. I know people may bring up the issue of his expression and the guard in the background being distracting, but since he underwent such a drastic change in appearance and demeanor, I think the change is appropriate. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 05:40, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Added a second proposal with more clarity, no guard and his eyes being slightly more open. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 05:43, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I like proposal 2 the best because it doesn't have that person in the background. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 01:36, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

I support proposal two per reasons given. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 02:54, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

I oppose changing the image, for the very reason that Hiroshi's most distinguishable portrayal was that of a revenge-driven industrialist and not a forlorn prisoner. His depiction post-skip is not as important as say Asami's or Mako's, since he doesn't play a significant role in this book. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 04:57, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
Per WS's opposition. Hiroshi was shown as the reformed Equalist for one episode for a few minutes. That's not enough to make it his most character defining appearance, which is something the infobox image tries to display. His expression is also borderline "about to burst into tears", which is also unappealing as an infobox image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:43, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
Per WS and LL's opposition. We also still don't know how genuine his change of heart really is. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 10:05, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
Oppose per Lostris' and Spout's reasoning. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 10:52, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Airbending

11-27-2014

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I feel we should change the picture for airbending. It doesn't accurately potray it, is low-quality, and doesn't represent the subject as well as it should. It does not show the face of the person bending, and it is in fact not actually bending. It is Aang inhaling. I think the picture should reflect the actual bending art. DarksideDCM (wallcontribs) 01:20, November 27, 2014 (UTC) :Approved for discussion. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 01:36, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

I oppose because, well, your reasons are really weird, sorry. The current is of high quality, the face of the bender does not need to be shown. Instead, the majority of the bender should be shown as to differentiate someone bending something from a fireball just flying around or something. Lastly, Aang is totally bending the air. An airbender inhaling air to airbend is no different than when a waterbender or firebender exhale to bend; they're still bending. Aang bent the air into his airways and then exhaled with such pressure that he quickly cooled the lava as it was about to destroy Aunt Wu's village. I see nothing wrong with the current anyways. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 02:50, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't feel I was clear. I mean the new pictures are a bit more modern, and more importantly, the air in the image is from him breathing in, not from his arms. While still technically airbending, him breathing in does not accurately portray what airbending as a whole is about, and I feel #2 portrays it just as good if not better, while also being more recent and applicable. User:DarksideDCM 03:03, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
Oppose. The current has the focus on the airbending, whereas the second especially is focussed on Tenzin, and the first is just not appropriate for a profile image. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 03:22, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Support Proposal #1. While I don't agree with Darkside's reasoning, I will admit that I never liked the current picture. To me, it's a generally awkward angle, a bit dark, and it doesn't really display the free nature of airbending. I think PR #1 does that much better. Tenzin is standing only on the toes of one foot, and still unleashing a powerful blast. Not to mention, this was even the same move the creators chose to display airbending in the opening credits of LoK.Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 10:57, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

I oppose the change. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 21:20, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
I oppose as well. ― Thailog 22:21, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
Support for proposal 1. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 17:20, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
No good reasons given to change, since the quality of the current is just fine and it displays airbending just fine. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:36, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Izumi

11-28-2014

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Simple explanation: the current image is horrible and it was only used since there was no other image available at that time. Either of the proposed will do better. My preference is #1 since she actually glances at the camera, though for those who find her hands to be too distracting, I've added a second proposal (though personally, I find her looking away toward the distance more distracting than the hands). I'd like to pass this along under the twenty-four-hour rule. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:43, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, and yes, I would prefer this change to go through within a day. My pick is for the second proposal as I do find the hands somewhat distracting, but I would not object to the first; both are far better than the current. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 11:01, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
Yes the curernt is horrible, but plenty of my proposals have been shot down on awkwardly glancing to the side like PR 1, even if it's into the camera. If that was a major problem we need to redo the picture of almost everyone. Support PR 2. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 11:11, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
There is a difference between "glancing to the side" and "glancing awkwardly to the side". The big difference between previous proposals that have been shot down for that reason and this one is that here she is not glancing to the side, but actually glancing to look straight at the camera, as opposed to having a shot that features the character facing the camera though looking away -which makes it award. That obviously isn't the case here. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:25, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
I support proposal one because I like that she's looking towards the camera as opposed to the distance in proposal two. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 15:45, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
I honestly find the hands too distracting, so I support proposal 2. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 16:41, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
I vote for the proposal 2 as it is better then the first one. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 17:18, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
Support for proposal 2. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 17:20, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
Proposal 2. Lord Hyōga Spirit Emblem Tree of Ages 20:20, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Support Support — proposal 2 per reasoning given above Fire Nation emblem User:Firetornado3006 (wallcontribs) 23:32, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I liked more the PR 1, because she is more visible. User: Airbender Master 23:54, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I support proposal one. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 21:45, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Korra

11-28-2014

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I've been on the lookout for a good new profile picture of Korra wih the short hair and I finnaly think I found one. It's a far off as I could get it, but I still think it's a good replacement, displaying her personality, and of course, the new hairstyle. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 11:14, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I don't agree with the change. While I definitely agree that Korra's profile picture should be updated to one of her new hairdo, her facial expression just strikes me as even borderline creepy in this one. Her expression is devoid from emotion, which makes her look like a doll. I also find it aesthetically displeasing that it is sucha close crop of her face, nearly cutting off the top of her hair. Perhaps some may say that the current is also devoid of emotion, though there it doesn't bother since the image isn't so "in your face" like the proposal is. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:25, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
I see your point, but keep in mind that the picture in that box isn't cropped properly. It just wouldn't cut off the top of her head, I couldn't fix that issue on this page. This is what it actually would look like: http://postimg.org/image/ak82dtb5x/ . Now the expression is personal taste, I think it's fine. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 12:00, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
My opinion wasn't based on how big the image looks on this page, it was solely based on the outlook of the image itself, which doesn't change by just resizing it, since the "in your face" feel comes from the close crop and not the size. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:03, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Support per reasons stated. The image looks fine.. at least for a temporary change until a better one surfaces. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 17:22, November 28, 2014 (UTC)


Added a second proposal with a more normal expression, albeit a little serious, and no upscaling. It could be better in terms of lighting, and expression but I think it's a bit of an improvement over proposal 1 and worth considering. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 17:59, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I removed the second proposal since it was of such a bad quality that it wouldn't even have been approved if it had been the initial proposal. (that said, it also didn't showcase Korra as neutral, it displayed her in bad lighting as an apathetic someone.) Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:36, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I oppose the proposal since it doesn't seem to have the same level of quality as the current. Though I do support changing Korra's infobox image to reflect her new hairstyle in theory. Lord Hyōga Spirit Emblem Tree of Ages 20:25, November 28, 2014 (UTC)


Still not a fan of the image and prefer we don't change for now, though since so many people seem to want it, I propose we at least take #2 if consensus is in favor of a change. In contrast to #1, that shot is a cleaner crop that still leaves some more room at the top of her head, which is more aesthetically pleasing. It also depicts Korra with a hint of her smugness as opposed to the bland face of #1, which makes for a better character depiction, which is what the infobox images are all about after all. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:33, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I support proposal #2 per Lostris' reasons. Katarasprite1AvatarKyaKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4

I oppose, mainly on the grounds of that I don't fully agree with the whole 'make the infobox image that of the character's most recent appearance' thing. Korra's look has included the ponytails for over three seasons, and having the infobox's image of her show a look she hasn't donned for very long seems a bit silly. Heck, several pages here don't follow this ruling as their characters are more easily identified by their appearance they held for some time prior to their change in/last appearance (such as Amon and Yakone).
But, if I had to choose, I guess I'd have to pick the first proposal. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 20:55, November 30, 2014 (UTC)
After thinking long and hard about this one, I'm going to support proposal two, primarily due to Lady Lostris' reasons about the expressions. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 03:13, December 2, 2014 (UTC)
i oppose the change. like LL, i think we need to update her propic, but i don't think either of the proposed images are good options. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 16:31, December 3, 2014 (UTC)
I agree. Her profile picture needs to be updated to accommodate her haircut, but more of her body needs to be showing. The proposed images almost resemble mugshots. LOL.
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I change my vote to oppose the proposal. There's really no point updating it now since the series will be over by next week and we'll probably have a suitable profile picture ready by then. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 00:17, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

I oppose, although i like the picture itself, i think we should wait untill the finale before we change all of the character photos as new and good ones will show up more then likley in the two weeks when we see the finale.--Gsmith1030 02:48, December 9, 2014 (UTC)

Raiko

11-28-2014

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There is nothing really wrong with the current, though I just thought I'd offer the proposal as an option. It's a shot with the same expression, though slightly further off, thus showing his URN insignia badge, as well as doing away with the shadow on his face. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:24, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I was never a big fan of the shadowy look in the current, so I'll take the proposal. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:31, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
You don't like the current picture because the lighting is inconsistent, not because it's shadowy. The proposal is even fully in shade. I oppose because in the new one, Raiko looks angrily and I don't think the additional wrinkles have something to do with him having aged during the three years. I agree wih Hopemon's argument as well although he's for the change. Darjeeling 19:22, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
I am with the change, but the proposal make his face to far, but it better then the current. I vote for it to be change. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 17:15, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Like you said, there's nothing wrong with the current, so I don't see any reason to change it. Oppose PR #1. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 18:54, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Oppose. Keep current. Lord Hyōga Spirit Emblem Tree of Ages 20:22, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
Support PR1. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 09:54, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Avatar

11-28-2014

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Here's my reasoning. While the current image definitely works to partially convey an aspect of what the Avatar used to be, it doesn't really apply now as Korra has lost access to her past lives. More importantly, I don't think an image showing all the past Avatars in the Avatar State represents what the Avatar truly is, which is the embodiment of light and peace, and most importantly, the fusion of a human with Raava. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 17:40, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:44, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
While there is something to be said about the given reasoning, I don't see a need for change, because the current image depicts the Avatars in the Avatar States, which is their connection with Raava and it also has the added benefit of showcasing that other very important part of the Avatar, which is the Avatar Cycle. My support stays with the current. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:56, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I definitely understand the benefit of showcasing the Avatar cycle, but yet that's still one aspect of the Avatar, just like their ability to bend all four elements. Plus there's the added fact that my proposal actually shows Raava herself lighting up inside the Avatar, and given the fact that she makes up half of the Avatar spirit, I feel it's important to showcase her in the image. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 18:05, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Mandon. The three defining features of the Avatar are: the Cycle, the connection with Raava and bending all four elements. Following that theory, I'd say we do Aang in the Elemental sphere during his fight against Ozai, but that doesn't really feel like a profile picture to me. I like that the proposal shows off the connection to Raava much better than the current, and that it's more in tune with the time, given that Korra restarted the cycle. Support Proposal 1. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 19:03, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I support PR1 for AA7's reasons. The Halter of Wind 13:19, November 28, 2014

We seem to be forgetting that the most common way the connection with Raava is displayed by the glow of the Avatar's eyes, not by the spirit lighting up inside them as the proposal shows. It highlights an uncharacteristic appearance of Raava when it comes to being the Avatar and as such should not be displayed as its primary image. It's a worthy image to be displayed in the body of the text -where there already is such a similar image displayed, though it's uncharacteristic appearance should not define what the Avatar is. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:36, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Raava + Wan and his following lifetimes is in short what the Avatar is. The point is to depict as such in the image, not showcase how the Avatar commonly looks when channeling Raava. I still think the depiction of Raava overlapping the Avatar better represents exactly what the Avatar truly is.. which is a fusion of the two. And in spite of the Avatar State being the channeling of Raava's light spirit, it still doesn't show Raava herself, which I feel is important. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 20:09, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Oppose. Keep current. Lord Hyōga Spirit Emblem Tree of Ages 20:23, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
Per LL, I oppose the change. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 23:22, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Mako

11-28-2014

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Post timeskip and better angle. (without him looking off to the side) Only issue I have and I'm sure others will have is the lighting, but it's not too bad in my opinion. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 18:40, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I don't agree with the proposal, I think the lighting of it is far more concerning than a slight look to the side. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:58, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
I oppose the change. The proposal is unsuited due to its sad expression, which does not capture Mako's overall personality at all, and its bad lighting. The better angle argument is without subject, since it has the same angle as the current, so the only plus point this image has is that it is post-time skip, though all the negatives it has, vastly outweigh that one positive note. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:36, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Oppose PR #1. To me, the primary reason to change it it the new hairstyle, and that is practically invisible here. Yes, the angle is slightly better, but it's too dark, so those even out. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 19:30, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Spirit energy cannon

12-7-2014

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Simple reasoning: the proposal actually displays the cannon as a whole as opposed to only the barrel. It also shows the rails the cannon needs to be moved on as well as points of comparison to indicate its true size. I'd like to have this be a 24-hour decision. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:54, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 23:01, December 7, 2014 (UTC)
Support per Lady Lostris' reasons. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 01:41, December 8, 2014 (UTC)
Defenitely agree. Tono555Korra-chao2wall-my contributionsAang Sprite Season 3 21:57, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

Support Support — per reasoning given above. Fire Nation emblem User:Firetornado3006 (wallcontribs) 19:26, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Kuvira (2)

12-12-2014

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Frontal, displays her personality extremely well and in my opinion makes her look far more intimidating as well with the angle it's at. It basically has all the bonuses of the initial frontal image we used, but without the downside of a bored expression. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 17:46, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:18, December 12, 2014 (UTC)
disagree - low quality image. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 18:21, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

The detail is comparable to the current image. How exactly is it "low quality"? --Mandon (wallcontribs) 19:03, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

I actually agree: the quality is just fine if you ask me, and I like the more intimidating look of the proposal. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 18:52, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

I think the current is perfectly fine and disagree with the change. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 22:14, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

Oppose. The quality is frankly horrible. It's absolutely not comparable with the current, which is a resized HD image of a 1900x1080 shot, whereas the current is a seemingly blurry shot. Furthermore, it's in worse lighting that adds an unappealing shadow to her face, at an awkward angle, and does nothing to improve her "intimidation level". In my opinion, it has nothing on the current. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:00, December 13, 2014 (UTC)

It's upscaled to enlarge it for the proposal template. If you click on the image, you can see it's true quality. It isn't at all blurry. As for the lighting.. I'll concede on that. Angle? How is it awkward? It's a frontal view. Overall it shows her personality just as well as the current, but it's at a better angle. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 06:16, December 13, 2014 (UTC)

Regardless of its "true quality", upscaling still retracts from the visual aesthetics of the image when it appears in standard infobox dimensions, which completely takes away from the whole reason we use profile images in the first place. Not all frontal shots are ideal for an infobox image. Despite the fact that Kuvira is facing frontward, the shot depicts her bottom-up instead of head on. As a result, you have terrible shadows accentuated- further worsened by the horrible lighting- and a bulky partial chest that looks terribly awkward. Strong opposed. The current is fine. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 07:35, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
You don't need to explain to me how to view an image, since I'm one of the few on the wiki that nearly daily concerns herself with image quality. That said, WS already beat me to explaining the awkwardness of the angle, though I'll repeat for emphasis anyway: "Despite the fact that Kuvira is facing frontward, the shot depicts her bottom-up instead of head on. As a result, you have terrible shadows accentuated- further worsened by the horrible lighting- and a bulky partial chest that looks terribly awkward." Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:04, December 13, 2014 (UTC

Support Support — Proposal 1 per reasoning given above. Fire Nation emblem User:Firetornado3006 (wallcontribs) 19:26, December 14, 2014 (UTC)


I added a second proposal with better lighting and a slightly top-down angle instead of bottom-up. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 16:57, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Both top-down and bottom-up angles are distracting and not appropriate for infobox images. The current is still the best out of the proposals. Also, the lines of the latest proposal are distorted. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:59, December 14, 2014 (UTC)
I oppose changing the current. The first proposal is at an awkward angle, as many others have stated. The second proposal looks awful with those lines under Kuvira's eyes. I see nothing wrong with the current other than it's not a head-on shot, but those aren't always the best do to lighting, expression, etc. ShadowZaHedge Korrasami is endgameKorra Sprite-01Asami-chao4 20:32, December 14, 2014 (UTC)
The second proposal is just as bad. The crop places her off-center which completely overturns the fact that she is no longer presented from a top-down angle, since that is just as bad. Her expression is sour and renders the image inappropriate for a profile image regardless, and even if we were to consider it despite that, it would be a gross misrepresentation of Kuvira, since her calm and collected demeanor has been a definitive character trait for the entire book. There is nothing wrong with the current. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 22:24, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Mako (2)

12-12-2014

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Post timeskip, adequate lighting, eyes aren't looking off to the side. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 17:42, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:18, December 12, 2014 (UTC)
disagree - it's too dark and close up. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 18:20, December 12, 2014 (UTC)
Disagree - Intelligence4 summed up what I think of the image as well. Tono555Korra-chao2wall-my contributionsAang Sprite Season 3 22:23, December 12, 2014 (UTC)
Oppose: the expression is horrible, the lighting is bad, and bad quality. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:00, December 13, 2014 (UTC)

Oppose Oppose — because of the terrible loghting. Fire Nation emblem User:Firetornado3006 (wallcontribs) 19:26, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Wu

12-12-2014

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Well, the proposed image shows him to be more confident, and shows his as a strong leader. Also, the lights are better. AvatarfanSLO (wallcontribs) 18:30, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:39, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

Disagree. The microphone's too distracting. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 18:47, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Mandon. I don't like the microphone and I don't like the people in the back.Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 18:51, December 12, 2014 (UTC)
This is an inappropriate infobox image due to the distracting microphone and people in the back. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:00, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
Oppose Oppose — as the image is to close up and the picture is too unclear.

Pema

12-13-2014

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Simple reasoning: better lighting, thus nicer colors that reflect her true complexion and hair/eye color, and it's a cleaner shot with less distractions. Compared to the quality of the shot it may replace, it's good enough, though will be upgraded once the true HD episode becomes available. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:41, December 13, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Definitely agree. Pema's profile picture as is has always given me a headache. The proposal is a major improvement. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 11:07, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, great proposal. I never really liked the old one. Tono555 Santa Aang Sprite Talk 14:47, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
Agreed. While I don't feel as strongly about the current as the above, I do think the proposal is an improvement on all fronts. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 15:50, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
Support Support — per reasoning given above. Fire Nation emblem User:Firetornado3006 (wallcontribs) 19:26, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Spirit energy cannon (2)

12-14-2014

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The current image, while keeping excellent focus on the cannon, no longer represents the weapon as a whole, considering how it is now attached to an enormous mecha suit. As such, I propose to change the image to the proposal. It's of excellent quality and lighting and keeps a central focus on the cannon while also (partially) displaying the mecha suit. The current image should, in my opinion, be moved to the "design" section, while the image there should be moved to the history section and take the place of the proposal that will (if this proposal succeeds) be moved up to the top. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 18:33, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:40, December 14, 2014 (UTC)
Support Support — proposal per reasoning given above. AvatarfanSLO (wallcontribs) 18:30, December 12, 2014 (UTC)
Support Support — propsal per reasoning above Fire Nation emblem User:Firetornado3006 (wallcontribs) 19:26, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Hiroshi Sato

12-19-2014

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Let's try this one more time. I know last time I proposed a post timeskip Hiroshi image it was shot down with the arguments that it conflicted with what Hiroshi was established as in seasons prior and that we weren't sure if his change of heart was genuine, but all that's changed now. In his last moments, Hiroshi was no longer the vengeance obsessed loonatic, but a guilt-ridden old man and a loving father wanting nothing more than to redeem himself. I think it's important to display his change of character, not to mention keep his appearance up to date. Not to mention the benefits of better lighting/angle. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 16:18, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

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I removed the second proposal since it was unsuitable as an infobox image due to its extreme close up. In regards to the first proposal, I don't agree to make it his infobox image. His last moments didn't change anything about his most defining character traits. Five minutes of remorse do not overthrow an entire season in regards to a defining trait. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:24, December 19, 2014 (UTC)
Support proposal per reasoning given above. AvatarfanSLO (wall) 17:32, December 19, 2014 (UTC
I agree with Mandon and SLO. Ture, Lostris has a good point by saying that he only had a few brief moments of redemption, but she's making it sound like he was the mastermind of Book 1 instead of Amon. And let's not forget, he never wanted to turn against Asami, but but he only wanted to revolt against benders. And since his regret of betraying Asami is consistent throughout both seasons in which he appears, I think that is a good reason to change the image. Plus, I think the lighting is slightly better, making it better on a technical level. Airbending emblem AvatarAang7Aang Cosmic 16:56, December 19, 2014 (UTC)
Eum, no, I'm not at all making it sound like that. As for the factually incorrect statement of "let's not forget, he never wanted to turn against Asami", he literally said that there was no saving her and tried to kill her. He regrets that, yes, but that was a very conscious decision on his part, so at least keep the arguments true (in regards to what I said and the extent to which I said it) and factually correct (the Asami-comment). As such, the lighting comment is the only one that truly holds merit, so it's really a discussion of personality portrayal against better lighting. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:03, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

I oppose the change per Lady Lostris' reasoning. In the end, his actions in the last season were the result of what he did as Equalist. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 19:04, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

The benefits of superior lighting, a better angle and his up to date appearance outweigh depicting a personality that he grew out of. For example, just because Zuko was, for the most part of the series, conflicted and at odds with himself.. that doesn't mean we're automatically obliged to use a photo of him depicting that side of him. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 19:10, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

Korra (2)

12-19-2014

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Show how korra has changed as a person from s1-s4. She went through a journey mentally, physically, and spiritually. She had to go through pain, to be able to be more compassionate towards people. She is no longer a hot head, but a wonderful, compassionate, determined Avatar. MrCookiezmilk (wallcontribs) 23:02, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I disagree. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 23:35, December 19, 2014 (UTC)
May I know you opinion Water Spout?-MrCookiezmilk 19:38, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

I can probably sum it up a little. The people in the background are distracting, the open smile looks awkward and she's wearing formal attire rather than her actual clothes. I also oppose the proposal for those reasons. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 01:09, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a big reason? The ones you say seem kind of a nit pick in my eyes. I could say for the current image that the trees are bother sum, picture is a little pixely, etc.- MrCookiezmilk 20:22 December 19, 2014(UTC)

It doesn't matter if my reasons are big or small or even nitpicky in your eyes. That's my reason, and that's my vote. The current image is fine. Before the finale I would have preferred a photo of her depicting her new hairstyle but now that it's clear there's no adequate image of her to replace it, I see no reason to change a high quality image for a low quality one. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 01:42, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Oppose. It's a shot of her as she appeared for only a few minutes at best over an entire series. The profile image should show the character as they're most often seen/reconized as. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 03:39, December 20, 2014 (UTC)
 :::disagree; bad image quality. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 07:02, December 22, 2014 (UTC)
Not really necessary so I oppose. Tono555Korra-chao2wall-my contributionsAang Sprite Season 3 16:44, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

Oppose Oppose — This is not how Korra is pictured most of the series. I would not be opposed to a picture from the end of book 4, but this one is not adequate. I agree with everything Water Spout said. Katherine Rebekah (wallcontribs)

Wu (2)

12-20-2014

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Prince Wu. Ahh a character that nobody liked at the beginning, but over the course of season 4 he began to change. He used to be a rich, self entitles prince, but hes changed(even if its by a little bit). When Kuvira was on her way to destroy Republic City, Wu gave a plan to evacuate the citizens and even voluntered to help. He used the power of singing to get the Badgermoles to dig a way out of the city.At the finale moments he suggested that the eartch kingdom should have elected leaders like Republic city. Prince Wu has changed for the better, and I think his apperace should to. MrCookiezmilk (wallcontribs) 00:05, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:57, December 20, 2014 (UTC)
Smile looks less sarcastic/egotistical. Lighting and quality is good. What do you think?-MrCookiezmilk 22:10, December 19-2014(UTC)
Support, only because the current image is bad and has needed to be updated for a long time. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 05:37, December 20, 2014 (UTC)
Support proposal per reasoning given above. AvatarfanSLO (wall) 19:40, December 20, 2014 (UTC)
 ::::support Intelligence4 (wallcontribs)

Support Support — It shows Wu's improved attitude. Katherine Rebekah (wallcontribs)

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Opal

10-03-2014

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Pretty self-explanatory. Post-timeskip. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 17:05, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because Proposed image is not up to standards.

Jinora

10-18-2014

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Jinora's infobox picture should be changed to this because Jinora has a new appearance, specifically her hair and her tattoos. When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change. 05:10, October 18, 2014 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because Proposal is of an extremely low quality and completely inappropriate for a profile image.

North Pole

10-25-2014

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File:Sacred_forest.png|Current image
File:North_Pole_Change_1.jpg|Proposed replacement #1
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It shows the North Pole in it's current state (open portal), (PS. Sorry i dont know how to crop the picture and resize it please anybody cut off a little bit of the left side) PhoenixFlames23 (wallcontribs) 05:09, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because proposal is of low quality, off centered, and Korra's hair is flowing in the wind, which all makes it inappropriate for a profile image.

Korra

11-05-2014

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File:Peaceful Korra.png|Current image
File:Korra smiling.png|Proposed replacement #1
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I think the first proposal should replace Korra's current profile image because it shows her in Earth Kingdom outfit, and it features her new hairstyle. There is decent lighting in this photo, and it shows Korra with Earth Kingdom terrain, smiling, just like the current image. Firetornado3006 - Talk - Contributions 18:31, November 5, 2014 (UTC +12)

This proposal has been rejected, because expression and quality are unsuited for an infobox image.

Baatar

11-07-2014

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File:Baatar.png|Current image
File:Baatar's disappointment.png|Proposed replacement #1
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I believe this picture better portrays Baatar's facial features than the original profile picture that's in use. The current profile picture is just to blurry and you can't really see his face that well. This picture also shows the worry's in his face, which goes along with this season so far. --ELEMENTSEEKER 22:44, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because expression and quality are unsuited for an infobox image.

Opal

11-08-2014

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File:Opal.png|Current image
File:Opalbook406.png|Proposed replacement #1
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Having Opal in her current Air Acolyte attire as opposed to her Zaofu attire shows a bit more relevance to the path Opal is taking in the course of the story. Plus I think having Zaofu in the background reminds us of her roots despite her nomadic lifestyle. Penguinluver1431 (wallcontribs) 04:15, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because unsuitable expression for an infobox; also an uncharacteristic display of Opal.

Opal (2)

11-30-2014

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File:Opal.png|Current image
File:Opal PR1.png|Proposed replacement #1
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I think will be better an image wearing new airbender wingsuit. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by Airbender Master (wallcontribs) 16:56, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because too close a crop which makes it unsuitable for our infobox image standards.

Jinora

11-30-2014

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File:Jinora.png|Current image
File:Jinora proposal.png|Proposed replacement #1
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Post timeskip + displays her personality well. I'll admit the angle isn't the best but that's a minor grievance in my opinion. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 19:43, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because Having snow on the foreground of the frame is unsuitable for a profile image.

Varrick

12-19-2014

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File:Varrick looking smug.png|Current image
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I believe this photo is better, because it shows Varrick for who he truly is. He is a genius, but also a compassionate person at the very end. He finally reveals his feelings for Zhu Li and is a happier man for it.Its also a fantastic scene from the amazing Searies Finale of The Legend of Korra. MrCookiezmilk (wallcontribs) 22:13, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because Having snow on the foreground of the frame is unsuitable for a profile image.

Zhu Li Moon

12-19-2014

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File:Zhu Li.png|Current image
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At First Zhu Li Moon was just an assistant, but as the series keept going she grew to be more then just Varricks assistant. She become a romantic interest. She became more assertive, but loving towards Varrick. This wedding picture show how much she really cares for Varrick. For better or worse. MrCookiezmilk (wallcontribs) 23:27, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because The first proposal is an inadequate expression for an infobox image, while the second is far too close-up, which is also unsuitable.

Jinora (3)

12-20-2014

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File:Jinora.png|Current image
File:Jinora1.png|Proposed replacement #1
File:Jinora2.png|Proposed replacement #2
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Neither proposal is wonderful but they have adequate lighting and quality and Jinora desperately needs a new image. EosOfTheDawn (wallcontribs) 15:02, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because the same proposal was turned down in a discussion on 25 October.

Jinora (4)

12-21-2014

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File:Jinora.png| Current image 
File:Screen_Shot_2014-12-22_at_10.54.59_AM.png|Proposed replacement #1
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This picture is of a more mature Jinora with her tattoos. She looks strong and determined to me, showing how much she has grown up over the last three years. It is also important to have a picture with her tattoos at the top of her page, so people can deduct that she is an airbending master. The image also has a good background and shows her in her Book 4 outfit. Katherine Rebekah (wallcontribs)