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Approved proposals

Southern Air Temple

02-26-2014

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The current is actually not bad, but I'm suggesting this proposal for some key points. Firstly, I feel the shot is a little too close up. You don't really get the sense that the temple is situated on a mountain. Secondly, because of the closeness of the im Sourceage, the large rock pillar in front of the temple takes away focus from the image, and even blocks a small portion of the temple. Thirdly, and probably most importantly, I'm proposing the new image as it gets rid of the Oogi tail, which was also a distracting point in the image. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 02:28, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. However, I don't agree with the proposal. I think given that the temple is surrounded by mountains and near their peaks, one can reasonably conclude it is situated on a mountain. While that rock pillar might be a little distracting, I prefer the current in terms of the zoom. The SAT looks rather distant in the proposal. I didn't even notice Oogi's tail until it was pointed out, and I don't think that's a problem - if anything, I like it even more as it gives indication of new activity around there. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:41, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with most of the OP's points about the image except for oogi's tail, like psu, i didn't notice it until it was pointed out to me. However, i think we should keep the current image b/c the coloring is better and the aesthetic appeal is better. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 03:20, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

I also say keep it the way it is. And I didn't notice Oogi's tail as well till now. The proposal one is too small and far away. I say keep it unless you can enlarge the proposal one that is. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 03:35, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Even though I think I like proposal number one more, I added a second proposal that was more cropped and zoomed in on the temple. I don't think I did too good of a job though...DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 04:09, February 26, 2014 (UTC)


I added proposal 3, as I feel it includes the sought qualities that have been stated above better than either the current or proposal 1. The temple is clearly seen to be situated on top of a mountain and the pillars in front are neither distracting, nor do they block the view of the temple. Additionally, the image is not too distant and is in the center, making it the focus of the image, as it should be. Also, the lighting is astonishing, in my opinion, and illuminates certain aspects of the temple that may otherwise be overlooked or remain unnoticed, so the attention of the viewer is even more so drawn to the temple, which is the purpose of having a profile image. Bolin spriteZiryerxPainted Lady (wallcontribsfanon) 04:15, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

I share many of PSU's sentiments, such as zooming and the pillar. I can't bring myself to like those more than the current. That color scheme in the Peacekeepers' images makes the temple look so washed out to me. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:17, February 26, 2014 (UTC)
I also agree. I think the current image is adequate, and definitely looks nice with the brighter colours. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 05:09, February 26, 2014 (UTC)
By taking a good look at the two new ones. I say the 3rd proposal look better, and it look like it dusk. I would either go with the 3rd or stay with the current. I am in both of those two. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 05:18, February 26, 2014 (UTC)
I'm changing my vote to support proposal number #2. that piller does kinda get in the way... Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 05:31, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

I'm supporting the current. I don't see the need to change. The current is vibrant in appearance and is most representative of a revived cultural center. What the proposals positively offer in one area (and from the arguments brought up it seems largely centered around zooming and the removal of a pillar, both of which are largely irrelevant in my opinion) is countered by several negatives, particularly in quality and lighting. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 06:22, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Current, per Spout. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:23, February 26, 2014 (UTC)
The current looks fine to me. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 23:57, February 26, 2014 (UTC)
I also support the current, for the simple reason that I don't see any of the proposal points as problems. It doesn't look that close up to me, I'm barely disctacted at all by the rock pillar and I don't even notice Oogi's tail. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 02:21, February 27, 2014 (UTC)
I think the current looks fine. I didn't even notice the Oogi tail until you mentioned it. 1 is too zoomed out. 2 looks akward with that squeezed look. The sunset in 3 doesn't seem to fit well imo. AvatarIonathan (wallcontribs) 02:54, February 27, 2014 (UTC)
I agree, the currant is perfectly fine. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 20:57, February 27, 2014 (UTC)
I have a slight preference for proposal #3. SuperAvatar (wallcontribs) 19:09, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Yangchen

03-07-2014

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The current is a fairly terrible picture of Yangchen in that it is a spiritual echo of her; the blue is fairly unsavoury, especially when we have other options. The proposal is well-lit, with bright colours, and hasn't got the fuzzy 'aura' around it that the current image has. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 06:07, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 06:11, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
I have to disagree. the current makes it very obvious who it is, while the proposed looks like it could be any female air nomad. i don't think the blue is bad; it doesn't make anything unclear. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 07:25, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
Well, that's why it would become her profile picture. So it tells people who it is. To people unfamiliar with Kya, that could be anyone in the PI - it's why she's there. To tell people who that is. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 07:28, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
It would be nice to have a better image to represent Yangchen than her spirit form, but I do not feel like the proposed one is it. Even though there is no argument with the fact that the colors are better, her expression is just so unappealing and awkward that I am voting to keep the current for now. I'm hoping The Rift will provide better shots of her at some point. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:09, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
I have to disagree as well. Much like Lady Lostris, I think the proposed gives Yangchen an unappealing expression and pretty awkward body language to boot. The current gives her a much better expression and shows her in her arguably most important form, as a spirit mentor to new Avatars. So I vote for the current. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 12:09, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
I would have to say current. Because for the proposal make Yangchen look like a teenager or in her early 20's. And like what Intelligence4 said, she look like any young female airbender. I would stick with the current. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 15:17, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
I will say you're half right and half wrong, Fruipit. Yes, we do need a better picture on Yangchen, but this one won't do it. She does look like any other female airbender. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 23:38, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

[Reset indent] Why does the fact that she 'looks like any other female airbender', as brought up by several people, have anything to do with it. The only reason that is the case is because he have only met two female airbenders; Iio and Yangchen. This image does not look like Iio, so I'm not entirely sure why that is being argued. Yes, this image *could* be anyone, except for the fact that it isn't anyone. It's Yangchen. So, why is that being argued? Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 00:44, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

People are talking about how the first image is more recognizable as Yangchen. We might not know about many female Air Nomads so far, but one might imagine that the second image could generally illustrate what a young Air Nomad woman would look like, while the current image is distinctly recognizable as Yangchen. Maybe this image could be a recognizable replacement for the current one that's in more than 1 colour, though personally I prefer the current image. SuperAvatar (wallcontribs)
Fruipit, what I was talking about is that the proposal look like Xing Ying from the Air Acolytes. As I first saw in the latest images, she look like Xing Ying. I would stay with the current, but I would like one day to have a new photo of here. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 02:09, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
As a general note, Fruipit's right on the fact that "it doesn't look like Yangchen" is not the issue in question here. People don't recognize Yangchen now in that form because the series basically only showed her as an eerie blue spirit -which is evidently not how she actually was. As Fruipit pointed out, if a naturally colored image would become Yangchen's infobox image, people would automatically start to assume said image with Yangchen. So the "it could be Xing Ying" of whomever is a moot point. If the image is to be shot down, it should be for reasons that are inherent to the image, like the quality of it or Yangchen's pose in the picture, not something utterly subjective and changing like "it could be something else" -which, again, is not the point as it is not someone else. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:49, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
I agree we need a naturally colored image of her. I would vote for a new image and I am sure she'll appear more in the Rift in the current age we know of her. I was also thinking we could add this proposal on her page or something. So my vote will be what ever is decided. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 16:50, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
At this time, I'm somewhat neutral. Both images have their merits, but I think we can do a lot better than either of them. Given that, I'm for holding off and seeing what other options are available in the next two comics. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 01:13, March 9, 2014 (UTC)
I don't personally find the need to replace simply for the sake of having a "colored" image. Yangchen's depiction from the current is more than appropriate, her expression and her stance are exactly what to expect from an authority figure who did whatever was necessary to fulfill her role as the Avatar. I can see the argument for disliking the blue tint, but its clearly showing that she is a spirit, and for the most part, what we know about Yangchen has been from her role a spiritual guide so it's justifiable. The current on the other hand makes her look very awkward, rather timid, and I am not a fan of the cropping of her arm for aesthetic purposes. Those reasons alone completely contradict her character, so I vote to keep the current image for the time being. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 04:29, March 9, 2014 (UTC)
I just don't feel it's necessary to change the image. The proposed is awkward and jerky and doesn't portray as an experienced Avatar. She actually looks like a scarred women which, to me, Yangchen never came off as. The colouring is good/better than the currant but you have to imagine it on the page and I feel it will come off completely wrong. I therefore feel the currant is fine. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 20:39, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

Satoru

03-08-2014

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The proposed is of slightly better quality and it shows Satoru in better lighting and with a more neutral expression -his mouth is still open, but it isn't the over-excited open-mouthed expression. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:18, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:10, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
Agreed, per proposal. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 14:10, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
I also agreed with the proposal, better lighting. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 16:31, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
I also say the proposal is better for this job. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 23:53, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
Support per all above. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 01:11, March 9, 2014 (UTC)
Support, as it is better lighting. JosephHawk | talk

Bumi

03-14-2014

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The current picture is just horrible! His face looks cooked and too zoomed in. In addition, the picture of Bumi makes he seem uncomfortable and angry, which are not the characteristics of Bumi we know and love. And while the proposal isn't perfect (I still want to find a good picture of Bumi in his commander uniform by the end of Book Three) it is definitely better than the current. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 19:15, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:04, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
While I agree that the Bumi image needs to be changed, I don't think this one works too much. It's too dark, and he's wearing an outfit that he normally doesn't wear. But, the image quality is better, and his expression is more him, so there's that. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 15:45, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
I agree with Soren. The current isn't amazing, but the proposed is too dark, and the outfit he is wearing is something he doesn't normally wear, which isn't desirable for a profile image. HAMMEROFTHOR 15:58, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
Don't support the proposal, per previous comments. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:16, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
I am also with Soren, we do need a new one as well. But Bumi is wearing an outfit that what he don't normally wear. And it is dark as it hard to see him, but if he was wearing his normal outfit and it was lighter. Then I would say change, but keep it, till book 3 is out. He is suppose to be in it more, so let wait till then. But I have seen some good photos for Bumi from book 2. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 20:25, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
I would say change it, but if better photos opportunities are going to be in Season 3, then let the current one stay for now. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 23:54, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
What about one from b2ep1 when he's with tenzin on ATI? Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 21:14, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

I've added a second option, per Intelligence4's suggestion. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 04:39, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Mind the ratio of your uploads for future reference. If an image is not in 4:3 ratio, then you can't force it into that ratio without cropping. (Also, Intelligence4, please remember to use proper indentation, which means that you use one colon more than the person before you and if you would have to have 6 colons, you just start over from zero.) Anyway, I had already thought about the second proposal, but refrained from uploading it since it was removed last time for being a too extreme close-up...though at this moment, I'm still inclined to let it be, considering there are other profile images that are similar in closeness and I do find it better than the current one. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:07, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
I don't find Proposal 2 to be extremely close-up myself, and I loathe the current image. I support #2. Krazykid51 11:37, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
Proposal 2 seems fine, and is definitely an improvement upon the current. HAMMEROFTHOR 12:02, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
The second proposal does seem a tad bit too close, but I do feel that it's an improvement over the other two. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 14:17, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

I find proposal two to be the best out of the three images, but still not the ideal image. It's better than the other two in terms of lighting, clothes, and zooming, but I don't find his expression to be fitting of Bumi. He seems scheming and mischievous. That's an expression better suited for Varrick. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:07, March 21, 2014 (UTC)

The Boulder

03-17-2014

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The proposal's expression isn't the most desirable there is, but I do feel like it is better than the current, which makes him look -quite frankly- like a retarded idiot. Sure, The Boulder wasn't portrayed as the sharpest tool in the box, but given that he did partake in the Invasion of the Fire Nation, we have to give him some credit. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:45, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 20:04, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
Per Lady Lostris, support. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 20:24, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
I disagree with the proposal. Honestly, if one of those two were to make him seem like a "retarded idiot" i'd have to pick the proposal. the current highlights his overly-dramatic & (somewhat) staged expressions, which are due to his career as a performer. if we were to change the image, it should be something from the invasion, or more preferably, one where he's gloating over his most recent win by showing off his muscles or something. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 21:11, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
Right.. so, "overly-dramatic and staged expression" with puckered lips and wide eyes is less idiotic as a more neutral look. Right... Okay, I don't see that at all. Also, we should never use an image where The Boulder is wearing his EK uniform from during the invasion as that is not his normal attire. However, he was shown there to have grown more serious, which is what the proposal better reflects than the childish expression he sports in the current. An image where his is gloating over a win or showing his muscles doesn't meet our image standards for an infobox image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:24, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

How's it not meet the standards? it perfectly shows his character and personality. the proposed isn't a neutral expression, but one with a.... duh face? i can't think of any other way to describe it. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 23:32, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Showing character, yes. Overacting and being a "busy" image is not within our standards. Also, as pointed out, there is something as "character development" that you have to take into account.
With all the will of the world, I still don't see it, because please, if the proposed is allegedly a "d'uh"-face, than I'm a truly curious as to how you would describe the current image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:38, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
Proposed, per the reasons given above. The Boulder in later episodes was a more serious person, reflected in the proposed by his more serious expression, whereas the current emphasises much more his stage persona and how he played to that. HAMMEROFTHOR 23:46, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

While I do understand Lady Lostris's reasoning, I feel we should keep the current. Even during said serious circumstances, the Boulder retained his light and comical personality. The proposed makes him seem completely serious, which wasn't really his character at any point in the show. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 01:41, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

I vote for the proposal as it does highlight the growth of The Boulder's character, while still showing a hint of his light personality. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 05:06, March 18, 2014 (UTC)


I'd vote for the proposal. He doesn't look like that big a moron in the current. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 23:41, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
I vote to keep the current. From what I can remember, the Boulder didn't change all that much, nor was he featured much after 'The Blind Bandit'. He's primarily shown as a fairly stereotypical wrestler, and he's played by a fairly silly wrestler (part of his wrestling persona was having a sock puppet buddy, which he made punch himself in the face), plus the current shows off an expression that really likens him to the guy that inspired the creation of the character. Also, wanting to change an image because it looks like "a retarded idiot" is in very poor taste. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 02:46, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

Tenzin

03-17-2014

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While there is nothing inherently wrong with the current, the proposed is a much more detailed and aesthetically pleasing shot, especially due to the picture's line work and background. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 16:29, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I don't agree, mainly per the adagium "don't fix what ain't broken". The current image has nice, clean coloring with good lighting, which I find more aesthetically pleasing than the darker proposal. In terms of background distractions, I find Air Temple Island to be less of a nuisance than the diagonal lines in the glass behind Tenzin in the proposal. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:53, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
Against the proposal. Don't find either background to be better than the other, both images have essentially the same expression, but the current is better in my opinion on the virtue of brighter in the right measure. Proposal is too dark. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:04, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
I am also against the proposal as it should stay the same. It lighter and not so dark like what Omnibender said. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 19:41, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
per LL Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 21:13, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
Per everyone else, the proposed is too dark, and the background is far more distracting than the current. I do not see the need to change. HAMMEROFTHOR 23:46, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
I'm going to have to say keep the current. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 23:52, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Book Two: Spirits

03-27-2014

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The current is promotional art,which an undesirable quality in a profile picture. The proposed comes directly from the blu-ray cover, a much better depiction of the season and is also in tune with the pattern of having the art of the dvd set be the profile image. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 00:42, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. While your second point is correct, it is typically just the cover art instead of having an image of the box set as a whole. With that said, if a picture of such is provided, I could be in favor of that, but as of now, I would prefer the current as having an image of the box is not really desirable for the article of the book itself imo. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 01:01, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
Of the two, I'd stay with the current. Image quality of proposal is not that great, and that angle isn't good either. When we get an image the same way the current Book One: Air image is, then I think the change will be good. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:08, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

I believe Proposal 2 may be what you are looking for, PSU and Omni. Per the same reasoning as DrDman, but I believe this is a better depiction of the cover of the DVD, but it is different, so... Bolin spriteZiryerxPainted Lady (wallcontribsfanon) 03:27, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that's more what I was hoping to see. Support. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 03:30, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
Agreed; better quality and consistent with the Book One image. HAMMEROFTHOR 08:01, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
I find myself compelled to vote for the current image. I think an image for the entire book should be an official dvd cover, and per the reasons above, that image isn't up to snuff yet. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 17:45, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
Which reasons above? I think proposal 2 meets our standards well enough. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 17:57, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
While I pretty much agree that the Book image should be from the DVD box (when such is released/revealed), what has me uncertain is that we currently have two box arts. Are they region specific? Is one just promotional work? A concept? Is one for DVD and the other Blu-ray? Currently, there just seems to be too many questions to make a choice quite yet.
Unless of course, I'm dumb, and all of the above has been answered, which in that case I go with proposal 2. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 19:02, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

I added a third option in tune with PSUAvatar14's first point. I kind of have a bias toward proposal three because it better shows Korra's growth in character in Book Two; instead of a shot of Korra looking like she's about to fight, it shows a calmer, more spiritual Korra, which is who she grew to be. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 20:23, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

Proposal 3, definitely. It solves the angle issue I had, it's good quality, and it's even more in line with the Book One image. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:24, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
Support proposal 3 as well. It is of good quality and seems to have the most believability to be the true cover art of the DVD box-set, which is the point of the image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:19, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
I say the third one is the best for the job. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 23:58, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Gurihiru

04-03-2014

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I believe this is a better image for Gurihiru. The original uploader did not object to this change. Danke. — Hasdi Bravo • 01:52, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 01:58, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
This is a given. So if everyone could just not reply to this vote, that would be awesome, because then we can quickly close this after three days :-) Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:51, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Light in the Dark

04-05-2014

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Although the current image is very aesthetically pleasing, I think the proposed mugh better embody all the aspects of the episode better: it better shows the combatants of the last fight as well as showing Raava's essence inside Vaatu, thus representing the literal light within the dark. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:32, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 21:57, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
Support, per proposal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:09, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
I support the proposed image per LL's reasoning and the fact that the current is far too zoomed out to effectively depict what is actually happening, while the proposed shows a quite distinguishable Korra and Unavaatu. Bolin spriteZiryerxPainted Lady (wallcontribsfanon) 03:38, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

Aang Memorial Island

04-22-2014

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I'll admit that both the current and the proposal have their negatives, but overall, I'd much rather prefer to see the proposal as the profile image just because the lighting better shows the details of the island, and the angle clearly distinguishes between the statue, the museum, and other features. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 07:40, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I agree. The proposal better shows the entirety of the island, as opposed to just Aang's statue. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:02, April 22, 2014 (UTC)
I actually disagree: the proposed is a shot from behind, which i don't think is desirable, and furthermore there's a lot of sno covering most of the building's features. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 17:42, April 22, 2014 (UTC)
(Please mind again to use proper indentation, which means one colon more than the user before you.)
Anyway, the image is supposed to be the infobox image, thus the most defining image, of the Aang Memorial Island page. The proposed image fulfills that role perfectly since it provides a visual of more of the island than solely Aang's statue as the current one does. Even with all the snow, we are now able to see that the island stretches on behind the big statue and that there are more buildings than just the pedestal. The current royally fails at portraying the island the best and the sole fact that it's a frontal shot should be irrelevant considering the purpose of the image: depict the entire island the best in all its facets. Furthermore, there is a frontal shot of the statue already included on the page itself (as well as the concept art), which more than covers for the lack of a frontal shot of the island as a whole.
Also, the other argument of "there's a lot of sno covering most of the building's features" also falls completely short when you take into account that the current image doesn't even show those buildings to begin with. So "snowy buildings" beats "no building representation" in my book. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 18:04, April 22, 2014 (UTC)
I agree per LL. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 20:35, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

Republic City tunnel network

04-22-2014

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This image is the background art for the current image used. Essentially, it has the same elements minus the foreground, so the sole focus is on the location itself, which is the subject of the article. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 07:40, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I agree per the given reasoning. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:02, April 22, 2014 (UTC)
I agree as well. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 17:42, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

Xing Ying

04-27-2014

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Xing Ying's current image is of bad quality and outdated. Ever since she met Aang, she has covered her tattoos as a sign of respect for him and his culture. As such, the infobox image should reflect that important character development of her. Although none of the proposals are perfect, they are all of a better quality and better portray her current appearances, both with the headband and her new attire. I have a personal preference for proposal #1, but I just threw in all the somewhat decent options I could find, since #1 isn't perfect either due to the light. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:40, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion and I prefer #1 as well; I think it's the best match and most quality shot for her personality. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 12:09, April 27, 2014 (UTC)
I would also go for proposal one or two. But mostly two for the lighting. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 21:54, April 27, 2014 (UTC)
1 is okay, my only concern is that it looks a bit pale compared to the others. I don't like 3 or 4 (because of Aang's ear being shown and the top of her head being cut off respectively), so I'd go for 1 or 2. HAMMEROFTHOR 22:07, April 27, 2014 (UTC)
It would be great to find the perfect, but seeing the series hasn't ended yet, I would go for #1, although the lighting is a bit distracting, but her expressions isn't like she is talking; although technically she is talking. The angle of #2 also a bit distracting for me. AcerEvan ( Contributions · Zuko EK Fugitive) 11:37, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

Yee-Li

04-27-2014

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Yee-Li's current image is of bad quality, which alone should already be reason for an update. Also, The Rift has shown her to have grown up. Her face is no longer so childish, nor does she sports the over-excited attitude that she is shown to have in the current image. As with Xing Ying, although none of the proposals are perfect, they are all of a better quality and better portray her current, more mature character as well as her new attire. I have a personal preference for proposal #1, but I just threw in all the somewhat decent options I could find, since #1 isn't perfect either. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:40, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I would be fine with either 1 or even 2 as I think they both show off her personality well; while she is matured, she still does have her excitement for learning about the Air Nomad ways. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 12:09, April 27, 2014 (UTC)
First, Lady Lostris, I was planning on asking someone to do this with Yee-Li and Xing Xing pics. Second I would go with proposal #1 or #2. As they view her well. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 21:52, April 27, 2014 (UTC)
Agreed, either of 1 or 2 would be fine. HAMMEROFTHOR 22:07, April 27, 2014 (UTC)
Although I don't think open-mouthed expression is preferred to be profile image, I'd prefer to choose #1, as her hand and the cropped Jingbo just distracting the image. AcerEvan ( Contributions · Zuko EK Fugitive) 11:37, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

Earth soccer

05-04-2014

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I propose a change for the simple reason that the current image depicts a boy with a ball, but no earthbending. The proposed image on the other hand does truly capture the essence of earth soccer: a ball, a goal, a player, and earthbending. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:26, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:15, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
I like the image in essence, my only concern is that it looks a bit blurred, as opposed to the more crisper current image. So, I agree with changing the image to one that actually depicts earthbending, but I would prefer a crisper shot (though, if no such image exists, then I would agree with the proposed image). HAMMEROFTHOR 20:27, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
I'd love to have added a more crisper shot, but there isn't one that depicts all the elements. Overall, the seeming chaos doesn't bother me because I image earth soccer to be a very fast-paced game that can potentially hurt due to all the bending. There is one other shot that clearly depicts earth pillars and the ball, but none of the players, nor the goal, and I do feel like they too need to be in the shot. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:14, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
Well, as I said, if no such image exists then I have no qualms supporting the proposal. I just felt it was a concern that was worth noting given that the change in crispness was quite notable. HAMMEROFTHOR 21:25, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
How about that one image of those kids playing in BSS in the finale - the boy uses an earth column to shoot the ball over the stack of tanks that bumi made. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 14:30, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Since that clearly is not conventional earth soccer, I don't think that would be the best representation. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:19, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

What makes it non-conventional? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 06:45, May 7, 2014‎ (UTC)

The tundra tanks that obviously don't belong there. The goal of earth soccer is obviously not to kick a ball over a stack of Fire Nations tanks. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 06:54, May 7, 2014 (UTC)
Agreed. The best way to represent the sport would be to show it being played in it's actual setting. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 17:24, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
I prefer the current image. I agree, it would be optimal to have an image actually depicting the sport in action, but the proposal is just too obscure. The current image I feel gives sufficient information about the game, including the use of a net/goal post, the ball and grounded game-play (as opposed to tossing the ball in the air). The Ultimate Waterbender 21:41, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Northern Water Tribe Royal Palace

05-13-2014

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The proposed offers a better overall view of the palace in good quality. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:41, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:56, May 13, 2014 (UTC)
Gotta say, not a fan of the proposal. Not because of the angle, but there's just too much ice wall. I do think that the current image has a bit too much of the stairs, though. A different crop of the proposal could work fix that. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:42, May 13, 2014 (UTC)
I support the proposal. I see Omnibender's point though, so I would also support another proposal that centers more on the palace and less on the ice wall. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 18:02, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

Cropper per request. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 18:06, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

Definitely proposal 2, much better. The palace is no longer overwhelmed by the ice walls. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:28, May 13, 2014 (UTC)
Full support. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 19:13, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

The Rift

05-16-2014

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Hardcover image has been released, preferable to Part 1 art. Don't recall if in these cases the proposal is necessary, since those are the images we end up using in the main trilogy articles, but better safe than sorry. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:20, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 23:16, May 16, 2014 (UTC)
No disagreement from me, definitely a better choice. HAMMEROFTHOR 23:23, May 16, 2014 (UTC)
I don't think anyone could be in disagreement with this, so it would be awesome if no one -who is in agreement- replied after this, so we can quickly change this in three days without delays. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:49, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

Turtle duck

5-19-2014

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None of the images, including the current one, are perfect. The current one has the benefit of showing the entire animal, but it has a distracting shadow over it. The first proposal doesn't have the shadow, but it shows the animals eating, which is also not ideal. The second proposal shows the entire animal without a shadow, but the coloring is off due to it being from a flashback. So this is really a "anything can go" proposal. I'm not necessarily convinced about any of the proposals, but I'm not convinced about the current one either, hence adding the proposals and seeing what the community thinks about it. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:56, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 12:59, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

I am not a fan of any single one as well, but I'm not opposed to proposal 1. It is unfortunate that the ducks are feeding in the shot, but at the end of the day the pros of the image are more than enough to outweigh that one negative aspect. Great coloring, nice showcasing of the anatomy (which I think is the most important part of a profile image for a fauna), and a representation of both young and mature. I would go with that one. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 03:58, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Seedy merchants pier

5-19-2014

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The current is an image from the series, the proposed is artwork used on the old nick.com site. Even though artwork I feel like the lighter, daylight colors are more aesthetically appealing that the ones from the series. However, that would mean a loss of the ship at the dock, though I don't feel like that's an issue. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:19, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 12:59, May 19, 2014 (UTC)
You can actually see more of the town on the proposal and the colors are far better, so I agree with the change. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 14:49, May 19, 2014 (UTC)
Proposal #1, per Lostris. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:11, May 19, 2014 (UTC)
I think we should use an image from the series over a piece of artwork. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 18:09, May 19, 2014 (UTC)
Why? There are other articles which have artwork images as their infobox image. It being an artwork detracts nothing from its quality. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:30, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

South Sea

5-25-14

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I feel that the current image is overwhelmingly land versus sea. I'm drawn to look at Kyoshi Island rather than the actual subject of the page, which is the water. The proposal may seem dull, but in essence that's what the South Sea is, dull and open waters. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 05:48, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:08, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

I added a second option just to give another angle of the sea. While it does portrays the boat clearer, thus drawing attention to it more, it also provides more visibility of the sea itself as opposed to the sky. Either way, I agree with changing the image and I have a slight preference for proposal 2. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:14, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

I support proposal 2. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 10:04, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
Proposal 2 looks more in line with the one we have for Mo Ce Sea, so I would say it's better as well. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 14:36, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Sokka's weapons

6-1-2014

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The current image has the emphasis on Sokka and his armor. The only weapon, the sword, is nothing more than a black spot in the corner that is only identifiable as a sword if you know it is a sword. The proposed image has a clear focus on the weapon itself without too many distractions. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:10, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 12:51, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 16:50, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

I support the proposal. Acer Evan ( Contributions · Piandao sprite) 16:52, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
I support, for the reasons given. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 02:17, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

Hide

6-2-2014

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The fist in the current image is extremely distracting. The proposal is nice and centered, without any distractions. He looks sour, but then again, that's mainly how he always came across. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:41, June 2, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:17, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
Support. Acer Evan ( Contributions · Piandao sprite) 16:52, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
I support, for the reasons given. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 02:17, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

The Warriors of Kyoshi

6-4-2014

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The proposal has a better look on the entirety of the Kyoshi Warriors. In addition, it also features Sokka (a main point in the episode), and since the interaction between Sokka and the Kyoshi Warriors in the picture looks unsure/maintains animosity, it perfectly describes the episode. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 00:29, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 00:36, June 4, 2014 (UTC)
I support, for the reasons given. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 02:17, June 4, 2014 (UTC)
Support, per proposal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:27, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

I added three more proposals that each offer a more close-up view of the events. My personal favorite is #2 because it puts a clear focus on the Kyoshi Warriors, on Sokka, and on his training with the Kyoshi Warriors as well as his newfound respect for them -which is essentially what the episode was all about (or at least the major character development arc). Proposal #3 and #4 are essentially the same as #1, but with a closer view. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 06:55, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

Propsal #2, per Lostris' reasoning. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 07:35, June 4, 2014 (UTC)
Proposal #4, it illustrates the central point in Sokka's part of the story that he accepted them --Tree_Climber Bonjour! 12:44, June 4, 2014 (UTC)
Proposal #4 is actually Suki mockingly inviting Sokka to "teach" them in the way of the warrior, considering he just arrogantly told them he was the best and had a one up on them for being a guy. He is far from accepting them in that picture. A picture that shows him accepting them would actually be #2. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:56, June 4, 2014 (UTC)
I vote for number four: one of the big points of that episode was Sokka getting over some of his sexism at the end, and p4 shows his attitude towards the girls. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 17:31, June 4, 2014 (UTC)
Please read my reaction to Tree Climber again: your reasoning for voting for that image goes entirely against what is being depicted in the image. Sokka is doing exactly the opposite there as what you say he is doing. Him crossing his arms in a "better than thou" manner is not getting over sexism, it's displaying that sexism. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:59, June 4, 2014 (UTC)
I would have to go with PR2 as per LL, it sums up the prevailing point of the episode the best. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:30, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

Proposal 2 for me as well. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 19:32, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

Katara (games)

6-15-2014

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Okay, in all honesty, there's no way to win with the game images in terms of sharpness; however, the current one of Katara is extremely dark and she's off center. The proposal shows her more fully, and is bright enough to at least distinguish her from the background. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 10:14, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:21, June 15, 2014 (UTC)
same here. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 16:07, June 15, 2014 (UTC)
Per the proposal. It seems it's the best we can do for this one. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 17:05, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Mako

6-15-2014

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I think the current image makes him look like he has no emotion. The proposals make him look more stylish and make him more lovable to the reader. (I know a lot of people don't like Mako but lets try to find a way for the best of this Wiki.) ZukoTheViper12007AvatarNo1Fan 21:51, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I disagree. It's not our objective to make a character likeable. The purpose of a profile image is to portray a character as effectively as possible, and the current already does a great job at that. It's the only image from the selection that highlights Mako's "stoic and brooding personality", which in essence is his personality. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 22:03, June 15, 2014 (UTC)
Current, per Water Spout. Also, proposals 2 through 5 have bad angles, proposal 1 isn't his usual look. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:05, June 15, 2014 (UTC)
Then what do toy say about proposal #3 ? It highlights Mako's "stoic and brooding personality" and it's beter looking than the current image. ZukoTheViper12007AvatarNo1Fan 22:10, June 15, 2014 (UTC)
Proposal 3 does highlight his personality, but the current is a better image in terms of being used as a profile. It's frontal and quite symmetrical, whereas Proposal 3 is far off, at an angle, and full body. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 22:12, June 15, 2014 (UTC)
What if I zoom in and cut it? ZukoTheViper12007AvatarNo1Fan 22:14, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Current: it is of good quality and portrays his personality well. Proposal 1 is an out of character portrayal of him in an attire and a hairdo he hardly ever sports. Proposal 2 makes him look overly happy and eager, two things he is not. Proposal 3 is poorly lit and his "gazing at the horizon" is distracting. Proposal 4 and 5 having his mouth awkwardly open and again too happy and eager. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:20, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

I think the current image appears rather one dimensional. the other options given have much better image quality, however, while there's nothing wrong with him smiling, i hesitate to say that should be in a profile pic, based on the fact that he's not usually like that. perhaps someone who is better with images than myself could find another proposal that shows him with a neutral expression and in a good quality image. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 03:50, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
It's a profile image, and thus should show the person as they actually are. Proposals 2–5 are off center and blurry, and proposal 1 is nothing like how Mako actually is as a character. I disagree with the need for a change. The current is centered, brightly lit, and representative of the character. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 03:53, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
Stick with the current. All the proposals show Mako from the side/askew, and proposal 1 shows him in a way he appeared only once, for one scene. Aside from proposal 3, all the proposals show him with expressions he rarely expresses. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 19:36, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Nika Futterman

6-18-2014

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The current image is more of an artistic portrait than an objective representation of the person herself. It is also grayscale, and does not show the actress' face well. GPFluteAvatar 14:48, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I agree. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:00, June 18, 2014 (UTC)
Agreed, per proposal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:32, June 18, 2014 (UTC)
Agreed per reasoning given. AcerEvan ( Contributions · Zuko EK Fugitive) 16:00, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

Korra

6-28-2014

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I honestly think the proposed image speaks for itself. A more close up view of her face, it's at a much, much better angle, you can see her a lot more clearly while the old one is a little shrunken in, and the blowing hair and expression are a good bonus too. In my opinion, I don't think you could ask for anything better. It certainly seems like the best close up image of her available and looks a lot better in the article than the current one after previewing it. Mandon (wallcontribs) 08:06, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 12:38, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, this is a much better shot of her face and based on the lighting, it shows it better. Lumoshi (talk) 12:42, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
I think the #2 because Korra is more joyful. Stella2013 (wall) 18:38, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
I don't think the current image needs to be changed, at least not to either proposals. Both proposals show not so usual quizzical expressions, not to mention the second one has that gaping mouth that should be a big no for every profile image. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:08, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Proposed 2 looks quite odd, I agree. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 18:58, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Current, per Omnibender. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 19:06, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

This photo of what is now on the side of Korra is better Czarnoksieznik z Angmaru123 22:06, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Current. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 20:10, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
You can't really notice anything odd about her expression when it's zoomed out, Omni. It just has her smiling, with much better lighting and a better view of her face. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 22:44, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Current per omnibender Tree_Climber Bonjour! 01:16, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
Current. The proportions of the first proposal are completely wrong, especially for an infobox when there are other options Edit after having updated the image: while the lighting is better in the first, the staring off in the distance is a bigger downside than the upside the better lighting offers. The second proposal is just awkward.Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:42, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

I also vote to keep the current. this goes for other pages as well, but i think we should hold off on changing profile pics of current characters for a while... otherwise, we're gonna be having these discussions after every episode. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 19:57, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Ming-Hua

6-28-2014

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Proposal will be the new infobox image.
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Image practically screams profile image. It is frontal, no distractions in the background, good symmetry, and it highlights he arm stumps which have already proven to be a very distinct identifier. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 09:56, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 12:38, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
I support as well. Lumoshi (talk) 12:42, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Support, per proposal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:08, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Should we not wait until newer episodes come out before changing the profile image, save going through all this hassle only to change it later on when the next episode is released? Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 19:20, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
I normally would be inclined to wait so long as the current profile picture is at least up to standard. I don't think the current image is to be honest and I don't particularly like for that to be the image associated for Ming-Hua until three or four more episodes come along. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 19:59, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Ming-Hua's prison

6-28-2014

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Proposal #1 will be the new profile image.
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I propose this change for the obvious reason of 'the current isn't a picture of the prison. I don't think much more needs to be said, honestly. There is the unfortunate happen-stance of me being unable to get a cope of this episode without the logo – hence the somewhat strange angle – but the proposal is definitely better than the current. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 11:26, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 12:38, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
The proposed, it shows the prison cell better. And what the prison looks like. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 12:40, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Yep, definitely better. The proposed shows the prison instead of just the prisoner. Lumoshi (talk) 12:42, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Support, per proposal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:08, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Ummm...isn't this discussion going to be moot? --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 01:00, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

In my opinion we can see her cell better this way and the picture is better quality.—Preceding unsigned comment added by LegendaryNinja (wallcontribs) 14:59, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

I support the second proposal. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 21:15, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
I'd go with the first proposal, as it shows more of the prison. The second proposal only shows her cell, and you can't really tell that it's a special prison to prevent her from waterbending. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 21:26, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Zaheer

6-29-2014

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Proposal #2 will be the new profile image.
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I think that in this photo we can see him better that in the previously one as there are no bars. The resolution is also better that the previously one. It only appears his face which most of the profile pictures in the wikia are this way. JaumeDS (wallcontribs) 15:05, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:24, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
This shows his face much better, I support. Lumoshi (talk) 15:38, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
While I like the proposal, I think that one with his mouth closed would be a whole lot better. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 21:26, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

The trailer shows Zaheer without his long hair. As such, we already know that the current and the proposal will be soon outdated. The second proposal reflects his apparent more natural appearance. However, the downside is that said image hasn't happened yet since it's from the trailer. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:15, June 30, 2014 (UTC)


I added another proposal. Its a much more centered shot featuring his bald head. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 00:20, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

It is indeed more centered, but that's about all that I would say that image has over proposal 2 as it is distracting that the top of his head is cut off and while proposal 2 also has shadows on his face, the fact that those shadows are highlighting his eyes is better imo than the shadows in proposal 3. As such, I still support #2. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:31, June 30, 2014 (UTC)
Support for #2. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 21:05, June 30, 2014 (UTC)
I say we hold off on this one for a while until we see him in action a little more: he hasn't appeared in a ton of scenes yet, so i think we'll get a better image of him yet. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 04:41, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
While that is true, the current image just is not a good representation of him. Why keep a bad representation around when we have more updated and better ones around? Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:49, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
b/c then we'll have to go through this process all over again. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 20:43, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

I say just go with two for now. One is clearly outdated as he has shaved all of his hair, thereby making the currant inaccurate and three cuts off the head and we see very little of his body. We will just change it later as the series goes on, it will be a while before new episodes air and the currant is completely inaccurate as he changes appearance by episode 2. So proposal two for now. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 14:48, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Mako

6-30-2014

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Proposal retracted.
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In my opinion, the proposal is better because Mako came out better and is more handsome.This photo is from the book two. Stella2013 11:09, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I disagree. The proposal has a distracting light in the background, is too dark around his face due to which you can barely see his hair, and shows Mako with a "deer caught in headlight"-expression. Current for me, since it is still the best shot we have of him: it is well-lit and captures his appearances and personality good. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:08, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Earth monarch

6-30-2014

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Current image will not be changed.
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The reasoning is relatively straightforward - bringing the article up to date with the current ruler of the Earth Kingdom. The one potential drawback is that the image is pretty close-up, so I wouldn't be against another potential proposal coming up here. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 14:05, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:40, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

I've added a proposal that depicts the earth queen from a distance, and is more inline with the current. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 08:47, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

Looks good to me; support. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:00, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
This change doesn't seem necessary to me. The current image perfectly describes the position and majesty of the earth monarch. It really doesn't make sense to change it simply because Hou-Ting is the current one. I say how good the image actually is is more important than highlighting Hou-ting, so I'm against the change. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 20:15, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
I also oppose. The current is acceptable, even if he isn't "current". In fact, I like it much better, given that it shows him sitting on the throne in its entirety. The frame's focus is less on him as an individual, and more so of him in the context as the monarch, since the entire throne is in view and he isn't making any expressions, so he looks very formal and regal.Lord Hyōga Water Tribe emblem Tree of Ages 20:45, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
I find myself in agreement with dman on this one: the current picture is of better quality than either of the proposals. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 20:42, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
I think it's important to keep the image up to date. On the "President of the United States" wikipedia page there isn't a picture of Roosevelt, its Obama! So I go with proposal #1, it has a more regal air. Tree_Climber 21:35, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
I support the current. In addition to Hyōga's arguments, Kuei also wears the trditional clothing of the Earth Kings. Hou-Ting, however, wears non-traditional clothing and isn't fully visible. I also don't think that it is needed to always show the current holder of the position - the image of the "Tribal Princess" article is one of Yue and not of Eska as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 10:47, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Desna and Eska

6-30-2014

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Proposed #2 will be the new infobox image.
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This proposal is superior to the current image for a multitude of reasons. I remember when we first changed Eska and Densa image, it was argued that in the current, they lack any facial expression. I would wager that now, the current features TOO much expression, considering that, for majority of their screen time, Eska and Densa speak in monotone and maintain little to no expression. The proposed features some expression (their signature creepy looking smiles) but not too much that it looks off putting. Secondly, the proposed in featured in their throne room, displaying their new positions are chiefs. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 00:20, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I do agree with the change, but not for the reasons listed by Dman as I do not agree that they're showing too much emotion. However, the reason to change for me is the semi-distracting light in the background of the current image, whereas the proposal has no distractions, is a nice centered, frontal shot with decent lighting. It also features their thrones, which is a small plus. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:45, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Per LL. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 01:25, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Keep the same, theirs faces are too small and darker in the proposal. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 12:44, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Per Hopemon. Lumoshi (talk) 23:44, June 30, 2014 (UTC)
I oppose the proposed image, but for a different reason. I think that their differences are more clearly evident in the current, whereas in the proposed they look very identical. Given that we should make them as distinguishable as possible, given that they are identical twins, we should keep the proposed, wherein their hair and eye differences are more visable.Lord Hyōga Water Tribe emblem Tree of Ages 20:52, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
Current. You can barely tell them apart in the proposed image and I disagree completely that they're showing too much emotion in the current image. --Mandon (wallcontribs) 06:54, July 7, 2014 (UTC)
They are identical twins, so I don't believe that there is an issue with them being too similar. In most of the moving, non-speaking shots of the show, they are barely distinguishable from each other. Part of their 'gimmick' is the fact that they can't really be told apart, so there's nothing wrong with that in the profile image. I support the change, per Lostris. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 06:59, July 7, 2014 (UTC)
When has anyone not been able to tell them apart, other than Bolin (which doesn't really count because they were far away and he hadn't met them yet)?Lord Hyōga Water Tribe emblem Tree of Ages 10:11, July 7, 2014 (UTC)
I know several people whom—even just looking at the artwork of them first released at the SDCC—were unable to tell the difference. Unless people know what they're looking for, it's not something that's easily obvious. By looking at the full-sized proposed image, these differences become more obvious. Glancing between the two, I would say that the current is more obvious as to who is whom, however there is only a very small difference. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 10:14, July 7, 2014 (UTC)
If you're referring to viewers, I don't think that counts. To say that it's part of their "gimmick," I think it would have to be a little better established with the other characters in the show, not just the audience. The audience can think whatever they want, but I don't think we can, or should, reflect those feelings in the way we edit the content on the site, even if it's just the selection of an image. As far as in-universe feelings go, their only real "gimmick" would be that they are kind of scary. As for distinguishing them, the characters in the show seem to have no difficulty telling them apart.Lord Hyōga Water Tribe emblem Tree of Ages 19:38, July 7, 2014 (UTC)
I support the proposal per LL. --Cari1994 (wallcontribs) 01:31, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Also, can't we get a version of the proposal in which they're at least not smiling? Which I think is rather uncharacteristic of them, typically.Lord Hyōga Water Tribe emblem Tree of Ages 01:35, July 8, 2014 (UTC)


Added a second, non-smiling proposal upon request. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:23, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

I love how detailed the current images are but the lighting and shadowing completely detract from that, so I support the second proposal (as in #3, to avoid confusion). Waterbending emblem Water Spout 19:59, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
Although I still support the current, if it came between proposals #1 and #2, I'd support #2 because of the smiling in #1. With everything we know about the twins, having their main image be one of them smiling is just plain weird.Lord Hyōga Water Tribe emblem Tree of Ages 21:00, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
Support proposal #2, per my previous reasoning. Also, I like how they're wearing their normal attire as opposed to their winter coats. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:40, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
But...it's always Winter at the North Pole! XD Lord Hyōga Water Tribe emblem Tree of Ages 00:19, July 9, 2014 (UTC)
True that, but for some reason, no one ever seems to be bothered by that ^^". Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:48, July 9, 2014 (UTC)
Especially Tonraq! Lord Hyōga Water Tribe emblem Tree of Ages 01:36, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Rebirth

7-1-2014

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Proposal will be the new infobox image.
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As for a breath of fresh air, the current picture should illustrate the title and the main plot of the episode, which is in my opinion that Tenzin try to rebuild the Air Nomads by recruiting the new airbenders. Again, feel free to add better quality or more adequate pictures.Maxattac (wallcontribs) 21:48, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 00:55, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
I agree with the proposal. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 04:39, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
The episode isn't about Kai, it's about Tenzin recruiting benders, which is more clearly demonstrated via the current, where he is actively recruiting. In the proposed, Kai is more auditioning than he is being recruited by Tenzin.Lord Hyōga Water Tribe emblem Tree of Ages 20:47, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

A Breath of Fresh Air

7-1-2014

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Proposal #2 will be the new profile image.
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The current picture doesn't illustrate the title and the main plot of the episode, which is in my opinion the appearance of new airbenders all over the world. Feel free to add better quality or more adequate pictures.Maxattac (wallcontribs) 21:48, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 00:55, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
I say proposal number 2: of the two proposals, it shows the point of that moment much more clearly: in the first, it's kinda hard to see that someone's airbending. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 04:40, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
Agree.Lord Hyōga Water Tribe emblem Tree of Ages 20:52, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

I added another proposal. I think proposal number three most accurately displays the episode as it portrays the divide between the humans and spirits, based on the city versus wilds living arrangements as well as the integration of spirits into Republic City in general. DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 00:17, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

The episode is called "A Breath of Fresh Air," which I think refers to the new airbenders; therefore, showing Bumi, the first new airbender we see, airbending, is appropriate. The focus really isn't on the tension between the Spirits and humans, that's like a subplot really. The show even climaxes with Zaheer demonstrating his new airbending skills and setting himself free from the White Lotus.Lord Hyōga Water Tribe emblem Tree of Ages 14:03, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Ghazan's Prison

7-2-2014

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Proposal is the new infobox image.
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I think this image shows his cell and prison more than the current one.{Korra-chao2LegendaryNinja. (wall A:AitN)Amon11-chao1

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 00:55, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
Proposed is very good Stella2013 10:27, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
Agree.Lord Hyōga Water Tribe emblem Tree of Ages 20:52, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

Rejected proposals

This proposal has been rejected, because the proposal image does not meet Avatar Wiki's quality standards.

Zuko

6-29-2014

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The current image is good, but Zuko is clearly angry and the shadows and background are a big distraction that takes away from Zuko's face because the colors are so similar, they almost blend. The proposed replacement is a perfect angle of Zuko with no shadows and a plain background that doesn't take away from his face or appearance. Very easily recognizable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aarkana101 (wallcontribs) 21:05, June 29, 2014 (UTC)