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Approved proposals

Spirit lights

11-12-2013

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Proposed 2 will be the new infobox image.
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To be frank, I find the current image to be awkward, particularly because it is depicting the lights as they begin to settle, whereas the proposal actually shows the spirit lights as they appear when active. Despite the fact that there's a village in the proposal, it's not at all detracting from the lights which is still the focus given the coloration. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 00:37, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 01:51, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
Support. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:10, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
Support. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 22:34, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
I do not support. I know you said the village dose not take away from the image, I feel that it does as it is just a background image rather than the focus like it is in the currant. Also you can't really see the lights in full bloom in the proposal which you can see in clearly in the currant. So I do not support. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:38, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I do not support. I agree with Snivystorm, the village is foremost in the picture and is what draws the attention, where the lights are just the background. I believe the current should stay. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 17:00, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I don't. There's something symbolic about the proposal in that like I said, it shows the lights in full bloom, settled, and as they appear. They are supposed to be evocative of spirits at peace and that is what the proposal shows. The current on the other hand, as I've mentioned, is too busy. The tentacle-like projection makes it appear as if the lights come out of the ground like some sort of burst pipeline, which it does not. It also makes it appear as if the lights branch off to create only patches of light, leaving parts of the sky the same. That's awkward and a gross misrepresentation of the subject, as I've said due to the fact that it's a screenshot of the lights as they begin to emerge as opposed to when they are actually in effect.

Even the wikipedia page for the auroras depict the lights in a similar fashion to the proposal. I don't see why we shouldn't. Nobody is going to think that the village is called "spirit lights", and in practice, most pages that do not use infoboxes aren't always necessarily depicted by a profile image bearing only the subject. But regardless, they are represented accurately through an appropriate caption. Case in point water skin, Sokka's sword, spark rocks, and Air Nomad glider, among many others. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 00:19, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

I agree that the fact that the village is there doesn't take away from the image. When one looks at it, it's obvious that the most interesting thing about it is the lights behind the image. The darkness means that the village can hardly be recognised as a focus. The 888th Avatar (talk) 00:35, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
I prefer the current as well, with the village and the mountains one can hardly see the lights themselves, whereas they are clearly the focus in the current. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 03:57, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Added a second proposal that omits the distracting village while still keeping in line with WS's reasons for wanting to change the image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:12, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

I at I'll feel at the lights look better in the currant as they fill the page and are in full bloom this one just shows them settled. Sticking with currant. Perhaps put this as an image on the page? Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 10:58, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
The lights are supposed to be settled. The current image shows that in an unnatural state which only happens when the portal is recently opened. Which, with the current events, will never occur again. As such, the current is an uncharacteristic portrayal of how the lights look. It would be like have an image of a scowling Aang as his infobox image. That would not accurately portray his personality, and neither do the unsettled form of the lights portray the nature of the lights. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:40, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Okay fine, support change to #2. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 12:04, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I vote for #2 as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 22:13, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Republic City Power Plant

11-12-2013

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Proposed will be the new image.
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The current image does not depict the actual subject of the article, rather placing emphasis on what happens in the power plant than on the power plant itself. The proposal shows the power plant with no distractions, with the generators clearly visible. It is a better representation of that work environment. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 01:30, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 01:51, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
Support. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 11:42, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
Even though it's concept art, it does do a better job at showcasing the subject. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:10, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
Support per Omni. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 04:39, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
Support. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:35, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
Support per Omni Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 16:58, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
Support for the change. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 21:17, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Korra

11-12-2013

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Proposal 4 is the new infobox image.
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I've always been a bit bothered by the angle of the current image, it's a bit too sideways for me. Proposal has her looking serious and determined, without looking too angry, and it's much less sideways. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:14, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:10, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I think the current image provides a better representation of her personality, and the background of the proposed is a bit distracting. Plus, the current image not only shows her face, but her iconic armband and ponytail. In my own opinion, I always thought the image chosen for her profile really suited her well.

Edit: A few more things to add. The current image tells a lot more about her character at a glance, isn't that what profile images are for? It's hard to describe, but the current just screams 'Korra' to me while the other doesn't. Sure, there's a shadow over her face but it's hardly darker than the proposed. You can still easily see her expression in both. However, the proposed depicts her as scowling, while the current shows her smug, overconfident attitude that's been a core part of her character both seasons. Also, one of Korra's establishing traits is that she isn't spiritual (until, after great struggle, just recently.), yet the proposed shows her in the Spirit World. In 22 episodes, she's been to the Spirit World once. That might be notable for a thumbnail image, but not a defining profile image. The cold lighting in the proposed causes color shift that, in my opinion, doesn't suit a profile image as she doesn't always appear that way. It feels 'off.' If you're aiming for a purely technically correct profile image (shoulder height, 'better' [although extremely cold] lighting, etc., the proposed is better (barely). If you want an image that portrays Korra's character well, stick with the current. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 01:14, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with AtkaSura. The current image much better shows her personality- cocky, proud without being arrogant, etc. The proposed image does make her look slightly angry, and her expression does not accurately portray her usual characteristics. So I'm going to have to discharge the change.--DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 04:13, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I have also always been bothered by the current image, as the shadow on Korra has always seemed unsuitable to me, so I support the proposed Srijay K - TechFilmer 01:43, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I support the proposed image as well. This gives a good shoulder-up view with decent lighting, and this defiant moment for her is pivotal to her character development and her journey as an Avatar. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 04:38, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I support the proposal as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 05:27, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I added other proposals‚ they're really not the best picture ever as its a bit zoomed out and not of the best quality, but it shows her personality well and has better lighting than the current, has the band and hairdo AtkaSura was talking about the first proposal missing, and, imo, I like her look better in the proposed rather than the angry serious Korra appearing in the #1, which may suit her personality sometimes, but I don't feel its an accurate portrayal of her character. The first image is rather zoomed out, but it's full sized whereas the second proposal isn't full sized, but has a a better focus on Korra herself. Personally, I like #3 best, but its still a tad unclear, unfortunately.Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 13:53, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I would still support the original proposal. While there is better lighting for the new ones, there's too much of angle. The 888th Avatar (talk) 14:43, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, that was a big problem with them, but I had a hard time finding other good shots that I also thought showed her well. However, if the angle is too problematic then I give my support to the proposed, even if it doesn't do the best job showing Korra's personality it is a really good shot of her. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 14:52, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I think that the current image works out fine. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 15:00, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
Keep in mind that Aang's profile image is at an angle as well, yet it shows his character perfectly. I'm not sure why there's a sudden need for straight-on shoulder shots if the only ones available are (in my opinion) a step down in quality. I see it as a 'If it's not broken, don't fix it" situation, but that's just me. If we really need a shoulder shot, I suppose I could look through Book One for a suitable image if there are none from Book Two. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 16:18, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

In all honesty, there dosen't seem any need for a change. The original proposal makes her look too angry and arrogant. The other proposals just look like a zoomed out going down view of the currant image just with a new background. I feel ere is no need to change the currant image. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:34, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

If there's no other version of it, I would go with the original proposal. People are saying that the current picture better portrays her personality, but it's actually a rather outdated portrayal of her personality. Proposal #1 actually shows how much she has changed and matured over the past two seasons. The only problem with it is that it doesn't have the right dimensions and it cuts off her pony-tail. Cari1994 (wallcontribs) 22:00, November 13, 2013 (UTC)


I added a fourth proposal since I really don't find any of the others to be suitable although I do recognize the need for a better qualitative image. The first proposal does not portray her well imo as she looks to be scowling, which is rather weird to have as a main image. Also, the overall blueish tones of the image are distracting, as well as the fact that the top of her head is cut off. I don't find there to be anything wrong with there being an angle -as indeed, many images have an angle- however, as 888 pointed out, the angle in 2 and 3 is just too much as she is practically sideways. The 4th proposal is certainly not a perfect portrayal of her personality, but from all the images available, I prefer it overall as it has the best quality, coloring, non-distracting background, lighting, angle, accessory presentation, and facial expression -it's just a neutral, faint smile. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:18, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I beg to differ. The 4th proposal is a perfectly accurate portrayal of her personality. Korra is a three-dimensional character, with different layers to her personality. She can be tough, angry, sad and cheerful. The 4th proposal is somewhat of a middle-ground. So, along with the profile angle and good lighting, that makes 4th proposal the best candidate for Korra's profile image, IMO. ― Thailog 22:27, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I agree. I change my vote to Proposal #4. Cari1994 (wallcontribs) 22:32, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, #4 really looks good. I change my vote as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 22:36, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I would also vote for Proposal #4. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 22:40, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
Number four is definitely the best of the proposed, but I still believe that out of all the given options the current better shows who she is. Although it's composed well, it doesn't really add anything. Both are equally backlit (at least on my screen.) Take a look at Korra's profile quote, and picture that next to #4. Korra's personality shines through the current image more so than any of the proposals. Studio Pierrot's flat and slightly off-model depiction of Korra doesn't fit the bill for an all-encompassing profile image. (I just don't think her defining profile image should come from a studio that even Bryke was unhappy with. Mir made Korra stand out, and to use Pierrot instead seems like a disservice to the series.) Change for the sake of change isn't always best, especially if what we have already suits Korra best. If, however, this frontal, shoulder shot change is absolutely needed, I'm sure the upcoming episodes will have a better shot. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 22:58, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I would also absolutely prefer this latest fourth proposal. Better colouring – and as Thailog pointed out, Korra is of course more than just a fiery teenager. The 888th Avatar (talk) 00:10, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

I was looking for other images to propose as well, but someone beat me to it with proposal number 4. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:24, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

@AtkaSura: while the current one is indeed more temperamental, there is no denying that either 1 or 4 are of higher quality -even if it is from the apparently disliked Pierrot studio. The current image is slightly pixelated due it being in poor lighting and the glare in the left corner is downright annoying. It was the best shot of Book One, but now more HQ images have become available and Korra's character has changed, making #4 an excellent proposal -and not just "change for change". But even if it was, we have to look at the quality of the image and then the current is still beaten by the proposals. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 02:18, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
I'm not a fan of any of the images, but proposal number 4 is definitely the best out of all of them. The current has several problems aesthetically that have already been noted, but to me, it is a very outdated representation of Korra. Although she remains a hotheaded and headstrong woman, I think it's important to begin to recognize changes in her character as a result of her spiritual development, which proposal number 4 effectively portrays. She's no longer as brash or as "arrogant"; rather she seems to consider her options and is becoming more grounded in her role as the Avatar, as evident when looking at how she presents herself (i.e. going from "I'm the Avatar" to "My name is Korra"). So I support proposal number 4. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 02:15, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Alright, now that 4 has been proposed I give it my support, although it does have some problems with it, it's better than the others. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 03:13, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
  1. 4 definitely much better than a the others and, to me, more accurate and clear. I'm changing my vote to #4. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 07:41, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

I added another option. It has nearly the same composition/expression as #4, but is lit from the front instead of backlit. Between it and #4, I prefer #5. It's better lit and a little more lively/less dead-eyed.

Edit: More per the latest episodes. These were the best shots I could find of the new, more mature Korra. She looks a little saddened in some, but considering everything that has happened, I'd consider that justifiable. It shows how much she's changed. Out of all these options, I now support #6. It shows her development as a character, is well lit with a decent background, and in a way parallels Wan's image, reinforcing her roll as the first avatar of a new era. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 07:39, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

I don't particularly like the facial expression Korra has in 5. Her eyes seem too big and the smile is a bit awkward to me. I am also not a fan of the shading in her face, at least not when there are other images available that don't have that. As a general note for uploading proposals: please make them png files as the jpgs show up all pixilated and of bad quality. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:58, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I still don't see any real need for a change except lighting which is a minor thing with the image, I still feel no need to change it. We have to remember that Korra IS a fiery teenager a lot of the time and slightly cocky too. I'm sticking with my vote for proposal #4Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:58, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I choose proposal #4. Sexenbiest (wallcontribs) 02:49, November 16, 2013 (UTC)
I would say number 4 or 5.
(anyway, how do I sign my posts?)
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I like proposal #6, it shows Korra much more recently. And has the serious look that comes with everything that has happened so far in the series. The Snowbold (wallcontribs) 23:14, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Proposal 6 is an uncharacteristic portrayal of Korra: she has her hair down (although that is much prettier than the ponytail) and is wounded. As such, that one is completely unfitting as an overall representation of her character. Proposal 7 is undesirable since it is in darker lighting and again cuts off part of her head, and the last proposal strikes me as unfitting due to the sad look that Korra is sporting. As such, I remain with #4 as the new image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:39, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Lostris, the images are either too dark or don't depict Korra personality enough, so I'm sticking #4. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:31, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
Number four doesn't show any personality, though. Just a blank, dead-eyed stare. It's pretty unnerving. She isn't as poorly drawn as Lin was in Peacekeepers, but it's still there. The fact that Korra's hair is down in #6 shouldn't detract from the profile image. Toph's wearing a helmet in hers, but like #6, it provides a truer representation of her character (especially now that Korra's the last/first Avatar). --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 20:45, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
I Think Proposal #6 would suit korra best right now, like kuir said it resembles the seriousness that she has finally achieved since her battle with vaatu. I Support #6
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The thing is though, the profile image should be a representation of how the character is overall (which is a reason I dislike Toph's profile image). Korra usually doesn't have a serious look on her face, and she almost never has her hair down. If I had to pick, I'd say either #3 or #4. However, #3 is more or less the same as the current image but farther out, so I'm inclined to say no to it, and while #4 does show her in a way she is often enough is, it fails to capture her overall character (which is cocky and full of herself). So I'm still sticking by my original vote to keep the current image. Soren7550 (wallcontribs) 16:51, November 19, 2013 (UTC)
  1. 6 or #8 for me. SuperAvatar (wallcontribs) 19:59, November 19, 2013 (UTC)
Out of the new options, I like 7 because it shows Korra smiling, and is clearly her. However, it's at a bit of an odd angle, and to be completely honest I still like 4, she looks calm, pleasant, and happy— not unnerving to me at all, and I quite frankly don't see how it could be interpreted as such. The only issue is the lighting, but that's better than the sad/angry Korras depicted in other pictures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FireFerret (wallcontribs) 03:51, November 21, 2013 This note was added on 03:05, November 22, 2013 (UTC).

Airball

11-13-2013

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Proposed will be the new infobox image.
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AS WS wanted to do: I suggest we switch the places of these two images on the airball page. A field says nothing when talking to a sport. It's not because one sees a soccer field that they know how the game is supposed to be played. As such, the proposed images gives a much more complete image of what the game is about. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:27, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 21:42, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. Definitely a more accurate portrayal. At least one we can see why it's called air ball at first class and Airbender and a ball, just what the image was a lacking and you can still see a lot of the pitch too so you have the arena as well. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 22:10, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I support the switch, per your given reasons. The field alone doesn't say much about the game. For example, (assuming we don't already know the answer) do players run between the posts on the ground? Where does the 'ball' in 'airball' come into play? The proposed shows the game actually being played while still providing a good overview of the field. (Tangent, I hope to see Jinora and Ikki play someday.) --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 22:37, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Serves me for editing at ungodly hours of the morning; completely forgot that the field was considered a "profile image". But yes, essentially as LL said, the proposal is a much better representation of gameplay. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 00:21, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed per proposal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:24, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Ditto. ― Thailog 12:59, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Council page

11-13-2013

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The proposal is a much better representation of the council page, as it depicts him as being somewhat timid and jittery, which was the case in many of the instances that we saw his character. The image also has better lighting and placement, with the council page front and center. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 05:06, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:15, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I agree. It definitely captures the kind of person that he was portrayed as. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:55, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I support this change. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 17:04, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Support. It's more befitting of his character and his eyes are open. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 22:41, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I support the change. The only thing I don't quite like in the image is the shading, but everything else pointed out outweighs that limitation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:24, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Proposal #1. ― Thailog 12:59, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Lieutenant

11-13-2013

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The current image is far too close-up, and although it has considerably better lighting, I believe that the proposed is a far better representation of the Lieutenant and is overall more aesthetically pleasant than the current. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 04:51, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:15, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I disagree completely, the lighting in the proposed is far more glaring than the close up in the current. I see nothing wrong with the current and believe it should stay. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 16:57, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
And I had just wrote something similar myself but you beat me to it. I disagree per Corin. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 17:00, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I also say disagree as well, keep it the same. The proposed is too dark and can't really see the man face. Keep it the same is my vote. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 21:16, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with the others. While the angle of the proposal is better, the lighting means that I find it hard to say that his face is as clearly made out. The 888th Avatar (talk) 00:07, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Pretty much what others have already said. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:24, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Ikki

11-14-2013

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The proposed is not the best, but I believe it is better than the current image of Ikki quality wise and I believe it is time we did something about that poor quality image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 02:24, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:29, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Literally was about to post the exact same proposal. I agree. Not the best, but 1000x better than the current. Support. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 02:34, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

You're not the only one. This is the third or forth image I intended to add as a proposal that someone went ahead and proposed before I could. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:47, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
I would vote for the new one as well, and like I just said for Jinora down below, and it does look better then the before. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 04:18, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Proposal #1. ― Thailog 12:59, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I prefer the current image. Sexenbiest (wallcontribs) 02:49, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Jinora

11-14-2013

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Te current image has never been from the highest quality since it was a shot at night. The proposed is of a higher quality with good lighting. She sports a bright and happy expression which suits her well. Imo, it's an overall good representation of her character with a qualitative image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 01:47, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:18, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
I would go with the proposed, as it shows her six month older of how she looks now. As you can tell there a aging different in both books. So I would vote for it, but her eyes does put me off a bit though. I will go with it unless someone has a better one. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 04:17, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
This is much better. I don't think I need to add anything further. The 888th Avatar (talk) 06:26, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
I would say I preferred the currant but the proposal is much better, so I'm casting my vote for the proposal. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 07:38, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

I like the proposal, but I'd like to add a few more to the table. One is of a few frames before/after, where she's smiling, one is of her thinking, and the other is of her after playing with the spirits. That last one might benefit from further cropping. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:07, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Either #2 or #1 both look good to me. The lighting and proportions are the best of the choices, and she's got a nice, friendly facial expression when she's exploring something new, which suits the curious, free-spirited airbender well. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 00:16, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
Proposal 2 looks good. She seems to be leaning forward a little in #1 AvatarKya (wallcontribs) 00:50, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
By seeing the new ones, I would pick both proposal one and two. As the second one look a bit better as the eyes don't bother me so much with the second. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 01:43, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I vote for #2 as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 05:18, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I like #1 best, #2 seems a bit too, well, excited to be Jinora, who is normally very calm. I think that #1 shows that side of Jinora rather well, while still portraying her as a happy person. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 05:47, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hehe, my turn to say that I had also thought of #4 as a proposal. However, I decided not to add it as #1 is of higher quality to me. The smile in proposal #2 strikes me as too happy for Jinora, as pointed out by ATFF, and 3 is just a bit too weird and too emotional for an infobox image (and by that I just mean that I believe the infobox image should be more neutral as opposed to showing such clear doubts). So I still support #1. It doesn't matter that she is leaning in slightly, as you don't see and/or notice that unless you put it besides #2, which will not be the case. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:58, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

I prefer #1. #2 is off-centered. ― Thailog 12:59, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
My vote is still for #1 as, to me, it looks the most suited to Jinora and has the best quality (#2 looks to happy and slightly less mature than she actually is). Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:53, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
Either #2 or #1 both look good to me. Sexenbiest (wallcontribs) 02:49, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Lin Beifong

11-15-2013

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Current image shows her with a rather unpleasant expression, like she's tasting something bad. One of the proposal is from her "you should have seen Air Temple Island" highlight, which shows a bit of her humor, and the other one is a more neutral expression. Both can be further cropped if more focus is necessary. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:12, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I support the current one as it is still the best representation of her character. She is overall portrayed to be serious with a tendency to be grouchy sometimes. Especially in Book Two. The expression in the first proposal makes it OOC for me, as she is not a humorous person and the expression in general is just..weird and perhaps a bit creepy ^^". And I just don't like the second proposal. Her face, especially the eyes, just look ugly. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:18, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

I strongly oppose the proposals and support keeping the current image. Lin's a harda** (Ya know, I'm not sure if I need to censor that here or not), the occasional sly joke doesn't change that fact. Most of the time, she's wearing the exact expression seen in the current image. As for #2, besides being a distant shot with a distracting background, suffers a serious case of Pierrot syndrome. Seriously, what is wrong with her face?! --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 09:28, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Unrelated to the proposal: no, you don't need to censor words like "hardass" and "kickass" ;-) Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:38, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Current. ― Thailog 12:59, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

No offence, but I prefer the currant images per Lostris. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:42, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Asami Sato

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Current image has Asami looking like a flustered fangirl. She's much more than that, and I think the proposed images better showcase her personality, as she's shown much more composed in these images. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:54, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

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A couple of the images, like #2 and #4, are suitable replacements, but ultimately I prefer the current image; I find Asami's expression to be more of a indication of her kind nature rather than of being flustered. The Ultimate Waterbender 01:15, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
Agree with Ultimate Waterbender. I see the current as showing her kindhearted nature, not flustered. Besides, I noticed Pierrot had a very hard time drawing Asami on model and it shows in most of those images (like 1 and 7). The others are too far away or shaded. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 01:24, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I agree that it needs to be changed, but I don't think that any of the images are really that suitable at the moment. The profile image does do a decent job portraying her, and while she does look a tad flustered, it is better than the proposed images. I also agree with AtkaSura— Pierrot's interpretation of Asami is well... not necessarily as good as it could be. If it were to be changed, I would rather it was something that wasn't from one of the Pierrot episodes. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 05:45, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
Took a quick look though a few episodes and grabbed these. Since I think the profile image is fine as it is, I'm not going to bother uploading, but feel free post them if you want. I'm sure there's more shots of Asami in other episodes, this was just a quick peek. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 07:12, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I agree too with Ultimate Waterbender. I prefer the current one. Sexenbiest (wallcontribs) 02:49, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Current for me. None of the proposals show her with a combination of a desirable expression, lighting, and overall quality. As for the unuploaded "possible, but not really" suggestions by AtkaSura, I don't think that "fancy" Asami would be a good representation either, given the fact that she's about to lose her company, and the helmet is distracting. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:18, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Current. ― Thailog 12:59, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
Currant for now, if better proposals appear, we'll see. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:44, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Mako

11-15-2013

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Current image has Mako looking somewhat aloof, uninterested. It also has the duller book one color palette. Proposed images have better colors, and two of them have one of his most usual expressions. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:29, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 00:36, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Mako looks a bit too surprised in #3, and the others are pretty distant shots. I don't think a change is needed out of these given options. However, there might be better profile shot of Mako somewhere in Book One or Two. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 00:57, November 15, 2013 (UTC)


I added another option with better lighting, and I think overall, it's more aesthetically pleasing and appropriate for an infobox, despite having a few problems. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 01:57, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

To be completely honest, I prefer the current. It has nice lighting, and I think it does a good job of showing who he is, a more serious and logical person. In all of the proposals except #3, he looks angry and in #3 he is too surprised for it to be considered a good shot of him as a character. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 05:42, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I also support the current per ATFF's reasoning. I also don't like the more downward angles in 4 coupled with the somewhat surprised-turning-annoyed expression he has, which gives off the feeling that he is looking down on the "viewer" and being surprised and angry that they are there ^^". Also, he is a serious character, not an angry one, thus I feel like the proposal should reflect his seriousness more than his temper. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:18, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
Per ATFF and LL. ― Thailog 12:59, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I don't see any reason to change. Support currant. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:48, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I support the current, but i don't really like neither pictures. Sexenbiest (wallcontribs) 02:49, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Unalaq

11-15-2013

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Current image shows Unalaq in a somewhat benevolent way, and also somewhat sad. Proposed images show are are more true to his nature, or at least more neutral looking. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:16, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 00:36, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

I vote for maintaining the current image. The others are either too far away, dark, shaded, or coldly lit. #4 could work, but between it and the current, it's not worth changing. It's a bit too overwhelmingly white/bright, and the current has the added bonus of Water Tribe symbols in the background showing his status. (Also, wow Omni. You're targeting everyone's profile. :P --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 00:49, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

I support the current for now. The low angle in #1 and the distance makes it unattractive as an infobox image; #2 is too dark and of too low a quality; I find #3 to be extremely awkward. He is just too straight forward and staring "over" the "viewer"; #4 is practically the same as the current one, though maybe even sports a more mellow -and slightly sad even- expression, which is, given the reasons to wanting to change the image, undesirable. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:18, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
Current. ― Thailog 12:59, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I understand what Omnibender is trying to say but, out of the proposals, there isn't really one that improves on the currant. I support keeping the currant. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:50, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
Number 4. Sexenbiest (wallcontribs) 02:49, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Added a couple more proposals, both from Night of a Thousand Stars. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:16, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

I support the current. The added images show his meaner side better, but they are rather poorly lit. GPFluteAvatar 14:59, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Bolin

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Current image is very shaded, and has Pabu in it. Proposed image is brighter, and shows him rather carefree and child-likeish like he is. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:40, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. The Ultimate Waterbender 00:48, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Support. I do like the current, but the proposed is overall better. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 01:20, November 15, 2013 (UTC)


I added another option that I think is a little more preferable, just because I am a little bothered by the hand on the face. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 01:57, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Support #1. It is of good lighting and actually captures his character as he is being portrayed in the show perfectly: a carefree dreamer (who is rather useless in general). Bolin's expression in the second proposal is too weird imo. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:18, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I like #2. Seems more like a profile image than #1. His is expression is typical in the latter, but this pose is odd. ― Thailog 12:59, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
  1. 2 per Thailog. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:46, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I vote for #1. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 18:28, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
I vote for #1. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 23:51, November 15, 2013.
I vote for #2. Sexenbiest (wallcontribs) 02:40, November 16, 2013 (UTC)
Support #1. While the hand on the face is a minor setback, Proposal #2 seems awkward and does not capture, as Lostris put it, his being "a carefree dreamer (who is rather useless in general)". GPFluteAvatar 14:59, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I definitely go for #2. His expression isn't really over the top in any way, and the pose in #1 with the hand over the face is strange for a profile image. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 22:21, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Earth

11-16-2013

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I think it's safe to say that this is a better representation of the Avatar World. AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 11:55, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, and I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:39, November 16, 2013 (UTC)
Vote to change, also might want to do the vote fast. I saw three people try to change it already. So I do favor to the change as it is better. Just wish we can make it a bit lighter without the dark part of the earth. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 04:45, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I'm against changing it as it is extremely dark and I can barely see all of the planet whereas in the other one it is brighter and clearer despite only showing a chunk of the earth but at least it's clear. So I'm against the change. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 10:54, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
The proposed image clearly shows that the earth is round, shows the rotation of the moon, and clearly shows the outlines of the Earth Kingdom and the Fire Nation, giving the viewer a sense of planetary scale. The current image has the attention drawn to the comet that is entering the atmosphere and barely shows anything of the planet -and the part that is shown, reveals absolutely nothing. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:51, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Okay, I was just thinking quality wise it was too dark. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 12:01, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
If we're certain there's no other shot from the episode with better lighting... Then I fully support the change. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 17:51, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Could use one with better lighting, but this is the best one available atm. I support. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 22:21, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Support. Finally we can see what the continents look like in reality, not just on the map. SuperAvatar (wallcontribs)

Varrick

11-16-2013

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The proposal strikes me as a mix between him being sly and eccentric at the same time. He also has his eyes open and his hands are nowhere to be seen, which is also a plus. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:39, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 04:46, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Support. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 05:58, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

His eyes are open in this one and his cunning side is more open now. Support change. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 11:02, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Proposal better shows the Varrick we know now. GPFluteAvatar 14:59, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

I support the change. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 17:14, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Tree of Time

11-16-2013

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The tree of time did not always contain Vaatu, as such, it seems more fitting to have an image without the Dark Spirit in it as a main image. The proposed is also of better quality and esthetically more pleasing. Edit: also added a second proposal which has the same qualities as the first, but a different, more lighter background. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:52, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 04:46, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

I support proposal #2. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 05:58, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

I'm against the change. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 11:03, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
And why exactly? The current image proved to be an uncharacteristic change for the tree, it is of lower quality, it is outdated now that Vaatu is no longer imprisoned there, the backround is lighter -also due to the disappearance of Vaatu's presence. I honestly can't see anything that would make the current more appealing as an infobox image. I would, however, keep that image on the page and have it replace the image that is currently there of Wan imprisoning Vaatu. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:51, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Okay fine I support #2. Just thought it didn't really matter about date. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 12:00, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I support #2. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 17:13, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I also support #2. It's a good view of the whole tree, and the background is well-lit. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 22:21, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Harmonic Convergence (episode)

11-17-2013

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The current image solely shows the Harmonic Convergence and even though that's the episode's name, it is not the importance of the HC occurring. The proposed on the other hand shows the Harmonic Convergence (part of it) and Vaatu, no free from the Tree of Time -which was the point of the episode: stopping Vaatu from escaping, but they failed. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:41, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:28, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I support the change. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:32, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I support the change. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 17:13, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Light in the Dark

11-17-2013

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The last episode was about Korra finding her own spirit within and using it to defeat the Dark Avatar. While the current one does accurately depict Korra finding herself, it doesn't depict the actual fight and the magnitude of the battle, which the proposal does do. (and if not the infobox image, then at least on the episode page as it is just a cool image ^^") Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:47, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 22:16, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I would go for the change and I do like it. It shows the last fight between light and dark of the battle. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 22:43, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I don't think so. The episode is called "Light in the Dark", the proposed just shows the climax of the battle not showing anything related to the title, which the currant does with a black space background and a white cosmic Korra in the middle. So I'm against the change because it does not depict accurately the content of the episode just the battle, though it would be suitable for a battle page though. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:29, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
The purpose of an infobox image is not to reflect the title, it is to try and capture the feel of the episode in one frame. The current -while not a bad choice- solely focuses on Korra, whereas she was not the only player in the last game. The proposed still shows the light the episode was referring to while also including the dark -which, if you truly want to stick to the "it must translate the episode title, fits more completely with the title than the current. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:44, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
I see. In that case that proposed seems fine then though I still think the currant image should still be on the page perhaps with a caption saying "Korra finding her inner light in the darkness" or words to that effect. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:11, November 19, 2013 (UTC)
I think both images are good infobox images and it doesn't matter much to me which ends up in the infobox. It seems important to me, though, that both images are used on the page, so both the battle and Korra finding her inner, cosmic light are illustrated. SuperAvatar (wallcontribs) 19:30, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Dark spirits

11-17-2013

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Throughout the season, we've learned that dark spirits quite literally come in all forms and shapes. The proposal better captures that by showing a multitude of spirits -which also nicely fits the plurality of the page's name- as opposed to the single spirit that is now the infobox image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:59, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 04:46, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I support the change. It definitely shows more of a variety of the spirits. Still keep the currant on the page though I think. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 11:04, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Support per Snivystorm. GPFluteAvatar 14:59, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Support. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 17:14, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Although that particular Dark Spirit was incredibly well-designed and one of my favorites, the article 'is' called "Dark Spirits." We only saw the current spirit once and he unfortunately does not represent the look/style/quality of most other dark spirits. For that reason, I support the change. Even if they are all disappointingly simple. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 21:16, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I support this change. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 23:04, November 17,2013 (UTC)
I go for the change as well, it shows all different kinds of dark spirits and not just one. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 01:43, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Zhu Li

11-21-2013

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The proposal shows her with her usual blank face and without a distracting projector. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:24, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:20, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
Support. We can see more of her now as well. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 17:19, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
I support this change. It does show a better main picture. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 23:45, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
I support the proposal for this one, per Lostris. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 00:47, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
Does look cold, heartless, war machiney. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:57, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
Definitely support this, simple background, no distractions and the battleship's namesake is the focus. The Snowbold (wallcontribs) 03:01, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
Support, per all above. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 03:18, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Desna and Eska

11-21-2013

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The current image has a distracting silver streak going through the center of it and has people in the background. The proposal shows them with their dominant personality intact and in a neutral background. This is straight from piandao.org, so it will need to be re-sized and edited if it is approved. Millennia2 Tui and La sprite 07:10, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:28, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
Support. On the current image, the twins look extremely awkward, and while the lighting isn't the best on the proposal, they at least have a human expression. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 11:13, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
Support per Flame. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:12, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
I will also support the proposal as well. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 16:21, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

I support the current. Desna and Eska were always creepy and expressionless. That was kind of their thing. The current is also far better lit. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 18:15, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Buts that's the thing. The currant is outdated now as they are showing expression now, the currant portrays what they were like before meeting team avatar and the spirits and realising there father was a bad guy. The proposed shows them in a more up to date form. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 18:22, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
I think it's a little funny that Eska and Desna are in favor for a new profile image because they show emotion, but down below, Korra's most supported image is an awkward stare because the other proposals show too much emotion for her. It's like the characters switched. :P I'm getting mixed messages on what a profile image is supposed to convey. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 19:24, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
Okay, firstly what awkward stare? Second, what I'm saying is the image of Desna and Eska is out of date. They have changed character and now express themselves even in public, which the currant fails to portray but the proposed does despite being slightly dark. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 19:38, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, shouldn't bring up other PICs. Just seemed a bit strange. I do agree that it's good to show character development, but the proposed is pretty dark. When compared to the current, I feel the current is better. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 20:48, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

I don't support the proposal. Although I can see the appeal of representing changes in their character, it doesn't change the fact that the defining quality of the twins is that they are dull and typically expressionless. Any deviation from that quality is isolated to their interaction with a limited number of people. Particularly, I am very against portraying Desna as very sad and "puppy-dog" when it's not the case. That would be a vastly more inaccurate portrayal. I am opting for the current given the only option provided, simply for the aesthetic appeal and the generally more representative expression of their characters. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 21:47, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Current, per WS. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:34, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Came across the second option and thought it was at least worth mentioning while there is still a proposal going on anyway. While not perfect as the background light might be a bit distraction, I do not find it to be any more distracting than the metal pole thingy that we have no in the current, and the facial expression that the twins sport are preferable than in the current. They strike me of being a good mix between being less awkward but still emotionless enough to be a fitting representation of the twins. The fact that they are not staring straight at the "camera" isn't a bother at all as they are not too sideways and we have several infoboxes with an angle. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:44, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

The second proposal look good Lady Lostris, I would vote for the second one. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 00:11, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

I support the second proposal as well. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 04:58, November 25, 2013 (UTC)
For given reasons, #2 is better than #1, so I change my vote as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 05:23, November 25, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed, per Lostris. Millennia2 Tui and La sprite 07:37, November 25, 2013 (UTC)
I vote for image #2. GokuSSF2 (Contributions) 22:32, November 25, 2013 (UTC)
Yea, I change my vote to proposal number two. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 10:31, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
support proposal #2 Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:12, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Ben Diskin

11-23-2013

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File:Ben Diskin.png|Current image
File:Ben Diskin proposal.png|Proposed replacement #1
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This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed will be the new image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Although the proposed one isn't ideal position wise either, the current one is of too small a size, which makes it show up all blurry inside the infobox. For that reason I believe that a HQ image with a slightly off centered pose beats a blurry, op close shot that is the current image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:32, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion or something. The 888th Avatar (talk) 13:18, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

I support. It is brighter and we can see more than just his face now. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 13:19, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

The slight lean to his pose is a little annoying, but no more than the current, and given that it is certainly a higher quality, I support. HAMMEROFTHOR 13:23, November 23, 2013 (UTC)