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Approved proposals

Kathleen Kennedy

10-8-2013

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The proposed image is a higher quality image, better sized, and with better coloring. HAMMEROFTHOR 07:48, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:08, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
I support the current... Being replaced by the proposed, of course. KettleMeetPotwall 12:24, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

Raiko

10-9-2013

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Current image has the newsreel sepia effect. Proposed image has correct coloring, and depicts Raiko with a nice, neutral expression. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:49, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I'm admittedly a bit concerned about the shadowy effect, it makes him seem like he's dark man. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 01:48, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
Every other good, frontal shot of his face in Peacekeepers had him either with a slightly angry look, or very distracting background characters. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:02, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with PSUAvatar14 about the shadowy part of his face. As it almost make him look like Two-Face from the DC comic. But I do think it the only shot of him that is good for now. I would vote for it. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 02:59, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
I agree, this picture does much better as it is current event while the ither has the newspaper or photo quality that would be better in his history section. The Snowbold (wallcontribs) 01:30, October 10, 2013 (UTC)


Viper

10-13-2013

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Pretty obvious: the proposed focused solely on Viper. Sure, he has shadows on his face, though that seems to fit in nicely with the fact that he is a mobster. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:25, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:46, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed, per Lostris. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:02, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

I also agreed with the new photo. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 03:22, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

I support the new pic.AvatarKya (wallcontribs) 03:27, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Support per the given reasons. The shadows aren't that bad and, as stated, add to his persona. Also, Viper and the Triple Threat Triad page won't have the same profile image if the proposed is used. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 04:36, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Lu and Gang

10-13-2013

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Closer shot and you can actually see both their faces. Although the lighting isn't entirely ideal, it is overall a better shot than the current. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:36, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:46, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed, per Lostris. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:02, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

I agree as well, better view of theirs faces. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 03:23, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

I disagree. The glare from the light in the center is distracting. AvatarKya (wallcontribs) 03:28, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

You have to ask yourself: is it more distracting than the hand-shake and the total lack of any facial visibility in the current image? That's what you have to compare it with, not with a hypothetical perfect picture out there, cause the truth is that there just isn't one out there now and we don't know if there ever will be one. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 03:32, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Support. While it is unfortunate that the lighting is hazy, the proposed provides a clearer look at both of their faces. Current would be better suited as a 'personality' thumbnail image. --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 04:41, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

The Adventures of Nuktuk: Hero of the South

10-14-2013

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The current focuses solely on a small snippet of production, while the proposal shows the title card of the film, a far better representation of the production. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:53, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, and I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:54, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
Gosh, you ninja people on undos, and now PICs! What has this world come to...I was going to propose that! Joking aside, I fully support. Srijay K - TechFilmer 17:56, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
I support as well, since this mover is in black and white and this title is kinda what the poster is likely. The Snowbold (wallcontribs) 18:46, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
Support proposed replacement. Mixedfiction112 (wallcontribs) 06:23, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

South Pole

10-14-2013

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The proposed replacement shows the current state of the South Pole, with all of its notable features present: the spirit forest (not completely encased in ice), the spirit lights, and since the conflict between the two tribes is persisting it doesn't detract to the image having the Northern encampments and walls. If anything, it just shows how important of a place the South Pole is. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 16:25, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:52, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Air lion turtle

10-19-2013

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I think the proposal image has a better angle, and also shows the lion turtle airbending Leodix (議論 | 貢献) 20:35, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Approved, and I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:27, October 19, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with the proposed. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 01:52, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed, per proposal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:37, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
Disagreed. The proposal is off-center and thus very much distracting. Srijay K - TechFilmer 12:42, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
Eum.. the current has the turtle in miniature, completely in the right of the image (which is the definition of not being "in center"), and doesn't even show its face with the "unique" markings on its forehead of the air lion turtle. How can that be a better representation than the more focused shot on the lion turtle itself, showing its face and its markings, and only be very slightly off centered, a position that is totally to be disregarded when compared to the current image? Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:50, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
The reason why the first picture still works is because of the rule of thirds. However, the proposed image doesn't follow that rule :( However, I do see that point the current shows the markings, so I think it will be fine. Srijay K - TechFilmer 17:19, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with that rule, so I am still curious as to what exactly is wrong with the proposal that is right with the current image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:23, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

The rule of thirds states that if a 3x3 grid is drawn over an image, the object being photographed should take up only 2/3 of the picture. Problem with PR1, is that the bottom third, and the left third are both empty. wikipedia:Rule of thirds should have more info. Srijay K - TechFilmer 17:53, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
Uhu... so basically that entire point is rendered completely moot due to the fact that this is not a photograph and it is a standard way any images on the Avatar Wiki are taken as it is the perfect way to fill an infobox. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lady Lostris (wallcontribs) This note was added on 18:32, October 20, 2013 (UTC).
That rule still applies to stills like this, as the rule can also be commonly found it video. but due to the fact that this is an infobox, I see why the rule doesn't apply. Srijay K - TechFilmer 18:32, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with the proposal. With have a clear shot of his face in this one so we can clearly see him regardless of it bing slightly off centre.Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:05, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Aye-aye spirit

10-19-2013

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Image 6 will be the new infobox image.
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Why use concept art when there is a shot from the actual series available? Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:17, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion and agreed. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:35, October 19, 2013 (UTC)
I like the light, and would be ok with the proposal, but I think that scene offered better angles than this. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:39, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not a fan of the angle of the first proposal, and not a fan of the lighting of the second, but I added it nonetheless since it does offer a clear, frontal shot. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 22:12, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Personally, I find the angle to be less distracting than the light in the first proposal. Also, the friendly "I bow to you" pose is not really a good representation of the character. But I'll go over the other angles of that same scene again, though most had something else in the way as well if I recall correctly. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:17, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, we ought to be able to find a suitable one now, no? ^^" Quality wise, #3 is probably the best, though he is too smiley for his personality imo. #5 or #6 represent his personality better I believe. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:47, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Now we're talking! I personally would go for #4 or #6, they are both good options. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 22:50, October 19, 2013 (UTC)
I like #6; there he seems somewhat sneaky, but also good-hearted. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 23:51, October 19, 2013 (UTC)
I'd say #5 or #6. Both seem to represent his personality fairly well.Tree_Climber Bonjour! 01:26, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
I'd go with #5. His eyes are a tad weird for me in #6. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:37, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
I would go with either 3 or 6. 6 because it shows his personality the best out of the 6 but also 3 as it shows us a clear view of his face and it clearly portrays him as a cheerful guy which he is. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:03, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
I vote for number 6. it shows his face in a somewhat neutral expression, moreso than the others. Intelligence4 (wallcontribs) 00:23, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Mula

10-20-2013

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Proposal #4 will be the new profile image.
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To get rid of the concept art, some options for Mula's infobox. However, there is no clear shot of Mula entirely available without any kind of distractions, but imo, every one of the proposed will do a better job than the busy and cluttery looking concept art shot. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:35, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. My preference would be toward proposal #2 as it has the best focus on Mula from my point of view, at least. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:37, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
Best one for me is #4. #2 showing only from the neck up is almost like Mula's head is on a plaque. If not for the Mula article, then definitely for the Cat deer article. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:06, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
I think 3 and 4 are the best since both are clear shots and both show Mula in his/her role as spirit animal. Which one I'd prefer of these ultimately depends on whether Mula alone or Mula with Wan is preferable - Regal lionturtle - 16:58, 20/10/13 GMT
PR4 as it keeps inline with Naga and Appa. Srijay K - TechFilmer 21:11, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
I like 3, as it does show most of the character. I think that while it is indeed important to show the whole animal's body, it isn't much good if we can't even see their face. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 02:10, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

I like 3 and 4 as well, just to keep consistent with Naga and Appa's page. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 02:49, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

pic #4 is the best one. #3 makes Mula'a head look to big, imo. AvatarKya (wallcontribs) 04:15, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

I like proposal two. I think it best captures the face of Mula without too many distractions. Appa-dobs1HenryJh 98 (BlogsFOTHParallel)Appa Sprite 01:02, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Beginnings, Part 1

10-20-2013

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The current just seems to be a random event taking place in the episode - since we are talking about beginnings here, I propose this as I believe it to be more centered on these beginnings - specifically, the start of Wan's journey. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 01:40, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion; I agree with the change - much better representation of the episode. The Ultimate Waterbender 01:47, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed, per PSUA and TUW. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:37, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Hybrid pigs

10-20-2013

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The proposed is a higher quality image with better coloring that depicts nearly every hybrid pig described on the page. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 01:07, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 01:40, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Lady Lostris' reasoning. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 01:48, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed, per Lostris. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:37, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed, and also because the colours and shadowing are so drastic on the current image. It hurts my eyes to look at. FruipyLoops Toph-DoBS-2 13:12, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Unnamed fire Avatar

10-21-2013

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Way more up close, so thus UNFA's face can been seen better. In the current, UNFA's face can barely be seen. Srijay K - TechFilmer 12:52, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

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Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:10, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
I support the image change, it is not of the most desirable quality that I would look for in a profile picture but it is certainly better than the current. In the proposed you can actually see his face, which is preferred.Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 14:23, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
I would also vote for the change as well. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 15:27, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
I'm against the change. It's not the best quality wise and it has the other Avatars edge in on the page which is not ideal. I would however, prefer it to be an image on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snvystorm (wallcontribs) This note was added on 16:09, October 22, 2013 (UTC).
So having an image, where the face is barely visible (and thus having lower quality), with the focus being on the volcanoes is fine, but having a proper frontal image (which is now inline with policy) is not fine because faces of the avatar are showing? Srijay K - TechFilmer 16:09, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
Like I said, I don't think it is ideal for us to have that image due to quality and the Avatar images in the background clutter it. If the Avatars were cut out then I would agree changing it but , since it isn't, I do not agree with changing it. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:16, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
My question to you, is do you think that the current is more suitable than the proposed> Because, if so, and you can give sound, logical reasoning, than by all means, let's stick with the current. But just because it isn't the best, doesn't mean that we should not change it, esp. when the current is obviously lacking. Srijay K - TechFilmer 16:22, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
I will only agree, if there would be no way for us to adjust the currant image so we could see his face. What I mean by that is why don't we crop the image so only the Avatar is on it (the original I'm on about here) and see what that looks like and base it on that. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:29, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I disagree with the change. At least for me, the only thing that made the unnamed fire Avatar worth noting was his presence in the montage that displayed the prowess of the Avatar State. I identify him by the Fire Sage-esque attire and his use of lavabending, and as such, in that regard I think the current image is more than appropriate to serve as his infobox image. In the proposal, he's no different than any other obscure Avatar that showed up to restore Korra's bending. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 01:47, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

I see your point. How about we keep current image on the page, but not as the infobox article? Srijay K - TechFilmer 15:31, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
I say leave it as it is like WS said but put the other one on the page, not the other way around. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:56, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
That would be a good compromise if the article was a bit longer. I think at this point, if we have an infobox image and an article image, it'll just end up looking cluttered. And in any case, although I do like how clearly the unnamed fire Avatar is depicted in the proposal, I just find so many other elements far too distracting, so I would just stick with the one we have right now. It's not the best, but both of them have their pros and cons and I just find the current a little bit more fitting. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 04:24, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

The image I just added (Proposed Replacement #2) is what I was proposing. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 10:39, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

I removed the image again as it was of too low a quality and would've never been approved in the first place if that had been the initial proposal. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:21, October 25, 2013 (UTC)
I created a draft of what the page would look like should the proposal pass, and imo, it looks fine, and uncluttered. Srijay K - TechFilmer 23:00, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
Okay, you guys have twisted my arm. Since my proposal has been rejected, I approve the proposed image. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:59, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
I don't agree with that change, I don't like the fact that almost the entire history is sandwiched between the image and infobox, and also having the reference stand out awkwardly. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:20, October 30, 2013 (UTC)
The ref thing has been fixed in the draft as in the draft i originally forgot the TOC. Now that it has been fixed, the ref no longer awkwardly stands out. Srijay K - TechFilmer 16:02, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

That page is not nearly long enough to cater for two images, it is one or the other. Two just looks ugly and goes against our image policy of using images sparingly, putting the focus on the text. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:57, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

Raava

10-21-2013

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Proposal #1 will be the new profile image.
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Uncropped pictures of Raava, as cropped pictures is against the policy for infobox pictures on this wikia. (from my understanding) The first and the second proposals show Raava with all her marks and the third shows her alone but diminished.

If Lady Lostris (or someone else), who is a far better pictures uploader than me, wants to upload better versions of the three proposals it will be nice Maxattac (wallcontribs) 16:42, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:10, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
There are certain circumstances in which a crop is allowed, but nevertheless I support number 1. I think it holds the best contrast to Vaatu's profile image, and as the two are counterparts, it makes good sense to show them in similar images so that the two look parallel. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 02:45, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I added the uncropped version of #1. My only issue with it is Wan there, but I dislike 1/2 because Raava blends in with the background too well. And 3 is just a bad representation. Srijay K - TechFilmer 14:18, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

  • This proposal show Raava with her "tatoos" fading. On this picture her symbol is not complete and she's already lost some of her original size.Maxattac (wallcontribs) 17:06, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I disagree with an image change. In the current image you see Raava more clearly, where the proposed 1 and 2 she blends too well with the scenery and 3 is a terrible representation. I see no reason to change it.Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 14:28, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I support proposal #1. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 16:58, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Proposal #1. It's similar to Vaatu's image, and has a good focus. 2 is too centered, 3 is terrible in that it's Raava flattened on the ground, and 4, while similar to 1, has her much smaller, so much she begins to share focus with Wan. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:09, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I still like #1, per myself above and Omni, plus I think that the background problem will become less apparent once the image is fitted to infobox size. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 02:59, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

Wan

10-22-2013

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The three images are similar, but ultimately, I believe that any of the proposals is more fitting to serve as a profile image for the aesthetic purposes of having a frontal image that is relatively centered. More so, I find the background for all three proposals a little less distracting, and believe that they are better representations of Wan's character. Ultimately, you see him in his prime, donning a pleasant expression characteristic of him.

The third proposal also suggests a hint of mischievousness with that sly smile, which I think is worth noting since the creators did say in an interview that they had always had the idea of Wan being a trickster who stole the element of fire. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 00:58, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:10, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
Hmm... I'm still in favor of the current image. #1 comes off a bit awkward to me due to the fact that he is indeed staring straight at you. There is nothing wrong with a slide side-shot, as it shows the character's profile better anyway. This proposal also cuts off a part of his head. #2 depicts him too wide-eyed for me due to which he sort of gives off a crazy vibe. Also, I find the red border at the top to be much more distracting than the less invasive blue in the current one and the trees never bothered me before. I find the last one to be too close-up and he looks rather childish in that image. I get the trickster reference, but I don't think that's really applicable to his character overall. Bryke may have stated that they view him as a trickster, but apart from him stealing the fire, there was nothing shown in the series that would give him that reputation. He was a happy character, but was very serious and determined about bringing peace to the world. As such, I believe that the current image still holds the best characterization of Wan. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:44, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
I support the current one as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 16:59, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Frontal view of Wan and in addition it picture Wan as he see himself as an Avatar Spirit Maxattac (wallcontribs) 17:06, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

No offence but I still prefer the currant image. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 17:14, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think the current image needs to be changed, but out of the four presented so far, I'd pick #3. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:09, October 22, 2013 (UTC)


Raid on the Chou estate

10-24-2013

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Proposed 1 will be the new infobox image.
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The current isn't really bad, though I think we can do better with an image that is actually taken inside the Chou estate as opposed to still standing before the front gate. I personally prefer #1 as it more clearly shows all the parties involved in the conflict. That one focuses on the fight, though since the raid was about stealing food, the others are suitable as well. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:34, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Hm, I'm torn between 1 and 4. I don't care much for 2 as it's essentially just a shot of Wan, and 3 imo is brought down by the developing explosion, so it feels a bit on the awkward side. Though I guess a secondary problem with 4 is that, to those who may not exactly know what is happening, just a shot of a random structure being targeted wouldn't do the trick. I'll go with 1. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:31, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
I'm struggling between the currant and 1. I think that the currant depicts a raid accurately whereas the 1 depicts the battle accurately. They both have pros and cons. If the result doesn't change, I'll be happy with it. If it does change, I would like it to be one, so I'm supporting suggestion 1. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 18:37, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

I am also torn between 1 and 4. One does show a conflict more prominently, but then again, 4 conveys the actual purpose of the raid, which was to plunder the cellar. That said, it would look a little odd to someone who hasn't necessarily watched the origins special, because it does look like a group of people in front of an empty building. So I would say 1 is a great choice. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 20:45, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

I support 1 as well, because just like Water Spout said, 4# looks a little odd. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 04:19, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with what Lady Lostris said about showing all parties involved, but option 1 does not show the other rebels and the current option does not show the guards, but I checked and there is not a shot which shows all of the parties nor is there a shot that shows Wan, the rebels, and the Chous or the guards inside of the estate, and since the focus of the article is on the raid, I think it is more important to show the group of rebels than the guards, so I am going to stick with the current image. Ziryerx (wallcontribs) 05:45, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

I think the current one should stay. It shows that it's a raid and not just some ordainary battle as Proposal #1 suggests. Proposal #2 doesn't make enough of the battle and Proposals #3 and #4 make it look like the're attacking some random looking structure. AvatarIonathan (wallcontribs) 12:59, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. It doesn't need to change as it depicts accurately that it is a raid and not a battle. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:57, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

Huntsman

10-25-2013

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I propose this change for a simple reason - you can't even clearly see his face on the current image. However, besides being a much closer shot, it also shows his grimly nature, fitting for his occupation as huntsman who regulary witnesses the death of comrades. Overall, it is the best close shot I could find, others seemed to be too far away or depicted him with an awkward expression. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 10:47, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I also added a second proposal that has him smirking somewhat as the first proposal strikes me as a bit too... hmm... to the sour side. he wasn't a bad person, he just didn't really trust Wan -with reason- so that image seems too dark if you wish for him. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:21, October 25, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Lostris as say #2 is the best option. Tree_Climber Bonjour! 21:02, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Cabbage slug

10-27-2013

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Although it is an image of nick.com and we generally prefer screenshots, I believe this is again a situation where we can make an exception for the simple reason that the cabbage slug is hardly visible in the current image. Although it better depicts the slug in its environment, namely on a cabbage, you can't see the animal itself. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:49, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

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Proposed will be the new infobox image.
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Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 19:57, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
I agree, in the current picture at first glance you can't even see tTree_Climber Bonjour! 20:16, October 27, 2013 (UTC)he slug.
Proposal 1. I've been waiting for a better image since I joined this wiki. GPFluteAvatar 20:20, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
I agree. At least we can now see what it looks like. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 20:36, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. A much clearer image than the current. HAMMEROFTHOR 21:58, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. A much better interpretation. AvatarIonathan (wallcontribs) 23:04, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Cat deer

10-27-2013

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Current image is a concept art. Proposed image isn't, and does a great job showing the whole animal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:14, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:38, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
I do not agree, with the proposed, if there was another option showing the animals face better I think that would be more appropriate.Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 16:41, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
All other images of Mula don't really showcase it well. The one that better shows its face has lots of other characters in it. I think even the ones that got deleted over not being chosen as Mula's infobox image weren't as good as this. There was one that had a good focus of its face, but the image showed it only from the neck up. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:21, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
Though not ideal, I think it a better option then concept art. Tree_Climber Bonjour! 20:17, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
I like it. I think that it is perhaps the best option as e only other time it is on its own in an image is when it is trapped in the nets, so I think we should definitely change the currant image to this. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 20:37, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed AvatarIonathan (wallcontribs) 00:46, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

Era of Raava

10-27-2013

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We know that the era of Raava was marked by Raava keeping Vaatu under control, thus warding off his darkness. As such, it seems more fitting to have an image of Raava subduing Vaatu in battle as main image for that era than one of Aang meeting a lion turtle. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:22, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:38, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
I support the proposed, the Era of Raava is marked by Raava and Vaatu. It is only logical to use an image featureing Raava. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 16:43, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
I'm in favor of Proposal #1 because it does a great job conveying the constant conflict from the time period and is much more suitable than a lion turtle. While the turtles had a significant presence in the Era, they were not its namesake. GPFluteAvatar 17:58, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
The proposed image definitely seems a more appropriate image given the renaming of the page. HAMMEROFTHOR 21:58, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with the proposed. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 15:55, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

Eastern Air Temple

11-2-2013

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Pretty simple: closer shot, higher quality, better coloring, and better lighting. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:54, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 14:37, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
Support, it's much better. Srijay K - TechFilmer 14:43, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Definitely agreed, per proposal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:43, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

I also agree for the vote to change. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 17:04, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Mako and Bolin's apartment

11-2-2013

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The current image indicates the entire building, leaving the viewer to guess behind which window the apartment is actually located. The proposed on the other hand gives a clear overview of the entire apartment -the fact that only Mako is show also follows the new information that he is currently living there alone. Showing the inside rather than the outside is also in line with the representation we have of Iroh and Zuko's apartment. The current image could stay on the page in the layout section or something. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:34, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. ― Thailog 20:55, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not a fan of Mako being in the shot, but it is still a great shot (and the best available at this point) regardless, as it shows the apartment in entirety. I support the change. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 20:58, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Support of PR 1 per WS. Also, the external shot does not capture the essence of the space like an interior does. While it has its purposes, the exterior is not the functional part of the apartment. GPFluteAvatar 02:25, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Kiyi

11-4-2013

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Proposal 3 will be the new image.
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Rightfully reverted off the page, of course, but I believe it is suitable for a profile image - captures her young and innocent side well, in addition to just plain-old focusing solely on her. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:28, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Approve or something like that. (My apologies, should explain why I approved this potentially low-quality image after someone else saw it: the current one, while technically of higher image quality, is appalling at showing who the character is.) The 888th Avatar (talk) 11:26, November 5, 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if this is going to be an inconvenient, but that is a photoshopped image of the original. I zoomed in the image and then cropped it to be 333x250px, deleted the text bubbles, and filled some spaces that were cut off on the original image. It was originally uploaded to the Spanish Avatar Wiki, and I didn't know what to do with the licence stuff since the image was altered. I can manage to get a higher quality, not much, but it would look less pixeled in some parts. --I declare Shenanigans! (talkcontribs) 03:24, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
If you have this image unaltered, then by all means upload it as best you can. Otherwise, the discussion will have to be cut since altered images are illegal. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 03:26, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
Done! I can still zoom the image to make only Kiyi to appear, but that's the original. --I declare Shenanigans! (talkcontribs) 03:38, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
Hm, the problem with zooming in could be that the text bubbles could be blocking her off unless it can be zoomed in far enough to get the bubbles cleared without altering the file. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 03:42, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Best I can get without touching the image. This is the best resolution available on the Internet I could find. Sadly, it looks pixelated. --I declare Shenanigans! (talkcontribs) 03:52, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Looks good to me - just needs its usual sourcing ofc. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 03:55, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
I vote for #3 DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 12:38, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
I de-pixelated #3 to make it more acceptable. With that, I can support it now. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:17, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
Proposal #3. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:16, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

The third is best. The 888th Avatar (talk) 01:32, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Knowledge Seekers

11-10-2013

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Proposed #1 will be the new image.
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Both images are not the best of quality. However, the proposed one is the most up to date to, showing the different appearance of the spirits over time, most notably the eyes. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:21, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:52, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
Full support; overall better representation, imo. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 21:32, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
A tad too dark for me, but still a better representation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:47, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I added a couple more suggestions, which are still in the same boat as the ones we're considering right now. The first is cropped in ratio similar to an image like the one used in Fire Navy communications towers, and I prefer it the most of all the choices, to be honest. The second I threw in just because there's something intriguing about seeing the Knowledge Seeker holding a book, despite the fact that the entire body is not visible and it's very off-center. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 09:07, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

I support Pr # 1, still a good one. The others would fit as ones to show throughout the article. The Snowbold (wallcontribs) 01:28, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I still support 1 as well, though would like to see 3 added in a to be created behavior section as I completely agree that there is something about that image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 01:39, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I also support #1 but I really like the #3 as it, like Water said, seems intriguing and interesting. So #1 and #3 (I would say #3 preferred over all but only because it is the cutest) Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:47, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I love the proposal #3. Sexenbiest (wallcontribs) 02:49, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Spirit World

11-10-2013

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Proposal 21 will be the new infobox image.
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Okay I propose that we use the image of Jinora and Korra having just entered the spirit world as the new main pic of the Spirit World. It is more expansive and grandeur looking. It's a lot more better looking then the current one obviously. It's more up to date. If we are talking about an entire world and choosing one location we can at elast use the one that showed to have more inhabitants and more info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanzo the salamander (wallcontribs) This note was added on 20:08, November 9, 2013 (UTC). I added some random more suggestions that either include a spirit and/or show the vastness of the Spirit World. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:44, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I'm between #1 and #3 - #1 shows a full shot from ground to sky, though Korra and Jinora are also in the middle of the shot. #3 doesn't have that, but the ground is cut, which rubs me the wrong way. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:52, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
I prepare the currant image if I'm honest but, if it comes down to it, I'll cast my vote for proposal #4 because it is exactly like the currant but a kind of Parallel as it is Korra facing opposite to Aang and both are observing a spirit and you can see the nature of the sprit world around them So #4 for being an exact LOK version of ATLA. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 18:19, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
Proposals 1 and 2 for me. The background of 4 and 3 is way too bright, and in 1, that gets balanced out by the foreground of the image. I see Jinora as a bit of a feature in 2 instead of a hindrance. It showcases the sense of wonder the Spirit World can give. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:47, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
Hmm, #1 or #3? I think I'll go for #3 since it has a little of it all. The Snowbold (wall

contribs) 04:43, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

I like #1 for the same reasons as KFB, but I think having Jinora and Korra in the shot is alright, and it seems better than having no ground at all.Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 18:20, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
  1. 1 because it shows the ground of the spirit world, and Korra and Jinora aren't that distracting. AvatarKya (wallcontribs) 22:32, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

I have added one more, although it is concept art, I find it far superior, as it is meant to show the entire Spirit World. I also have added a couple extra images that show other parts of the Spirit World. I think we have most every suitable image there is, from Korra. Srijay K - TechFilmer 15:33, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

When adding proposals, please mind our image policy and keep the purpose of the image in mind, don't just go "Yah! It shows the Spirit World *uploads*" In that regard, I have changed some for duplicates we already had on the wiki and took out some unsuitable proposals which would've never been accepted in the first place. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 00:10, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Loads of new images. I feel that 19 and 6 are better for harmonic convergence, 10 better suits the tree of time page. After seeing the new images, I'm changing my vote to #5 as it has a bit of everything in it, Sprits, surroundings, and it doesn't seem too bright. Hmm I think 5 for this and 4 if it comes down to a tie . 20 would also be nice too but I preface #5 and #4 as they have more to offer and the parallel/contrast I said earlier for 4. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:53, November 13, 2013 (UTC).

Wow, Snivy was right, lots of new images. I like #13 because it's a beautiful shot, clearly of the whole spirit world. I also like #20 because it shows both sides of the spirit world, and both clearly have the world itself and not a particular point or person as the subject of the images. I still like #1, though, but not as much as #13 and #20. The issues with the other ones are, imo, that they either a) focus on the harmonic convergence and the location near the spirit portals rather than grasping a view of the world itself, b) that they focus on a person or a specific location rather than the world, and c) that they are just flat out unclear,a nd #5 is concept art which I feel is a step back as it again focuses on the character and Korra rather than the world. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 04:08, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Whoo boy. Let's see. That's a tough decision, as both the current and the proposed show different parts of the Spirit World. We cant be sure which is more prevalent: the mysterious and foreboding world seen by Aang or the bright and vibrant world of Korra. Both are equally valid. As much as I love the Spirit World shown in TLA, I'd go with proposal #1 or 2 (in that order). Having Korra & Jinora in the shot actually provides a good sense of scale, and they take up no more room than Aang and the monkey spirit. The others are either too bright/dark, too busy, or focus on a specific location. However, it would be nice if the current remained a thumbnail as it still shows a rather significant realm of the Spirit World. (Not sure where it would fit, though. The page seems crowded as it is.) --AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 08:30, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Given what we have as a picture for the material world, I think this picture needs to represent the Spirit World to the fullest extent possible, and shouldn’t be just a snapshot of part of it. That said, the current image doesn’t really do that. Numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 12, 13 and 14 are too bright for my taste. Proposals 17 and 18 are too dark. Proposals 6, 9, 10 and 19 seem to focus on the portals and the harmonic convergence, which, while important, is more appropriate for something focusing on those topics, and shouldn’t distract from the topic of the page. Proposals 7, 8 and 20 I don’t see anything really wrong with, but I think that the most appropriate picture is #11 as of now. It shows the clash between different spheres within the realm of spirits, and furthermore, it shows the Spirit World’s immaterial, unchanging nature, which is one of the most important traits, especially in Book 2 of Korra. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 00:29, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
  1. 1, #5 or #13 look good to me. Sexenbiest (wallcontribs) 02:49, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

I've been waiting for the online game to update to grab a screenshot, and I believe that proposal #21 is the best option. It shows the Spirit World with no distractions, it features its ethereal nature, and is generally perfect at representing it as a whole; the other proposals are either too busy, not appropriate, or only effective at highlighting one aspect of the spirit realm (i.e. not everything is bright green, and not everything is a dark forest). Waterbending emblem Water Spout 05:57, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

You're right that is definitely less distracting. Vote change to #5 and #21. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 11:00, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
I vote for #21 as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 11:28, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
21 for me as well. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:51, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Changing support to #21 per WS. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 18:28, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
#11, #19 or #21 for me. SuperAvatar (wallcontribs) 20:04, November 19, 2013 (UTC)
This is going to go on forever huh?, #6 or #21 The Snowbold (wallcontribs) 07:54, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Mula

11-11-2013

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Proposal 2 will be the new infobox image.
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The proposed are more frontal shots of Mula. The difference between the two is Raava's position and the quality. The first on is not so cropped as the second one, thus retaining more of its natural quality. However, that also meant that Raava was still in front of Mula. The second one was a later frame with Raava being more out of the way, but Mula had also been further, meaning I had to crop it more and sharpen it severely. Anyway, I still believe that either would be a more complete representation of Mula as opposed to a complete side-shot that we have now. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:22, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I prefer #2, as #1 appears to have, looks like Wan's shoulder (?) sticking into the shot. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:16, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
I vote for #2 as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 20:16, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
Raavaless #2. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:34, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
Proposal #2 AvatarKya (wallcontribs) 22:29, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
I support the second proposal. Avatar Aang Cosmic Corin 17:05, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
While I find the fact that Mula is looking into the corner distracting, it is still much better than the current, so I support Proposal 2. Srijay K - TechFilmer 14:39, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
I disagree because the currant shot has got a clear background so it is not distracting as the proposed images are and takes away from the image. Also all the images are technically still side on images. If your going for face, it doesn't really gain much in my opinion so I think that there is no need to change. Snivystorm (wallcontribs) 16:41, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I like number one, I barely even noticed Wan's shoulder their, and I prefer it to the slightly less quality number 2, and its a bit more focused on her than on the background, but 2 is definitely better than the current as one can clearly make out the traits that identify Mula as herself, whereas the proposed is a blurred version of the animal, rather than clearly of Mula. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 04:00, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Rejected proposals

This proposal has been rejected, because quality and decent lighting are desirable. Him just looking to the front is not an adequate reason to change.

Unalaq

10-11-2013

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The current as him looking off to the side, the proposed as him looking straight ahead, which is more desirable. Srijay K - TechFilmer 13:48, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because the current image is perfectly clear. The proposal's reasoning does not justify replacing the current with an off-centered extreme close-up.

Bumi

10-13-2013

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Current image seems a tad off model/odd looking. His face appears slightly crooked and simplified; the result of Bumi residing in the background of the scene the image is from. Although the proposed is a closeup, it provides a clearer image of his character. (Bumi's profile image just recently underwent a change to the current image [per consensus that I, too, supported] as it's the best we've got, but I've started to wonder if this is better.) AtkaSura (wallcontribs) 10:31, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because image is not in the right proportions and at a very awkward angle.

Jinora

10-19-2013

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The current image is off-model and the proportions, colours etc. look weird. This replacement does a better job of representing her, since it's a full-body image showing her reacting to an image of Aang, in keeping with her role as a spiritual and intellectual character. Regal lionturtle 15:25, 19/10/2013 (GMT)

This proposal has been rejected, because him just looking to the front is not an adequate reason to change.

Wan

10-20-2013

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Frontal view. Mandon (wallcontribs) 10:03, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because the proposed is a pixely-looking piece of concept art, which quality and lighting does not reach the standard of an image used in the show.

Future Industries

11-06-2013

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Better lighting as well as a more detailed image (i.e. in the design of the mountains in the background). The new image better portrays the business feel of Future Industries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrDman20000 (wallcontribs) 06:59, 06 November, 2013 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because it is too close-up.

Unalaq

11-12-2013

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Current image no longer represents Unalaq's nature, he looks too benevolent in it, and somewhat sad. Proposal shows him with an expression that suggests anything but benevolent, and has a nice villain shadowed face. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:14, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because it is of low quality, blurry, and dark.

Unnamed fire Avatar

11-17-2013

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Current image includes distracting portions of other Avatars that draw the viewer's attention away from the Unnamed fire Avatar. The proposed image appears to be no blurrier than the current image and does not have anything or anyone in front of the Avatar, plus the golden glow around him keeps the Avatars in the background from being a significant distraction, as in the current image. Ziryerx (wallcontribs) 05:40, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

This proposal has been rejected, because Kuei is a man who took his position as Earth King seriously and his prevailing personality became more aggressive; the proposal does not adequately show this and is also low quality.

Kuei

11-17-2013

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Even though the proposed is at an angle, I believe it better represents his personality. In the current, he looks angry/annoyed, which is not the Kuei we are accustomed to 00:59, November 17, 2013 (UTC)