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Approved proposals

Jinora

12-31-2012

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Proposed will be the new infobox image.
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The proposed one is not perfect with it being a somewhat sideways shot which some do no like. However, compared to the current image, that downside seems to be nullified as the current one has Jinora in an awkward stare with her hands up for no apparent reason. The proposed one is of decent lighting, has her in a calm demeanor and with a smile without making her look awkward or out of place. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:26, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I agree; at the time, I only went with that current image because as I recall, it was the least awkward of the set of proposals we had then. Now, here is a solid one that I believe can work - it's perfectly set on her, and nothing to throw it off in any significant way. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:33, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
I agree also, the current does have her in a weird position. It looks like she is clapping or something, so yes the proposed is better in that she doesn't look weird. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:17, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

One, I thought we were going to wait for the second season for new pic with the air babies. Two the proposed one is nice and it does make it look like she has a nose. The current one make it look like she had no nose or flat nose. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 05:49, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

The proposal is nice, unlike the current where Jinora looks like she's clapping or holding something invisible. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 16:28, January 1, 2013 (UTC)
I felt weird when I saw this proposal; this one had Jinora proposed before. I know it was because the hadn't unreleased image, so everyone oppose it, but ever since from the last proposal, I believe the proposal is good, it has better coloring and lighting, angle and not too close-up; thus I support. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 13:55, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Hakoda

1-02-2013

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Proposed will be the new infobox image.
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The current one has him in a rather weird pose (seeing as the angle is slightly upwards) and depicts him as the stern and focused warrior. However, that's only one side of him. Usually, he is depicted in the manner of the proposed image: more gentle, smiling, warm and open. The proposed is a centered shot with good lighting as well. It's more close up and thus shows his facial features better. The only downside could be part of Bato's arm on the left, but that doesn't strike me as being too distracting or annoying. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:06, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. ― Thailog 10:23, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
Support, it's a much better image of Hakoda. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 20:55, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
Support also, much better. A better facial expression, but is there any way to get rid of the distracting person on the left? It's fine, but it'd be better if it weren't there. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 21:41, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Bato

1-02-2013

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Proposed #2 will be the new infobox image.
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My biggest issue with the current one is that you cannot see his face as his helmet is in the way. The proposed is certainly not perfect, but it doe show his entire face. I feel like the downside of having his arm in bandages isn't that distracting at all, and in general, the image is in good lighting and has a good depiction of Bato. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:06, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. ― Thailog 10:23, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
Alright, I don't really like the proposed, as it shows him with an open mouth, smiling mouth. Bato wasn't really shown as a happy-go-lucky or talkative person, smiley person, which the proposed seems to imply, but a morse serious warrior. Although I definitely agree that the current has its flaws, that were pointed out, I still vote for the current. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 20:55, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Lostris that the current is an obscured view and needs to go; but, I also agree with ATFF that the open smile is a bit awkward and off-personality, and I'm not a fan personally of it being off-center. I have added this second proposal which is closer to a bit more as we know him; while it is a bit flawed in being pretty closeup; I think it represents him just fine in a more neutral look while not obscuring his face in any way. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 21:27, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I like #2. Support. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 21:29, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
Number two is good. Support. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 21:42, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
Though the coloring is a little bit too orange in my opinion, but the angle is better and the smiling isn't awkward, nor weird, so I support number 2. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 13:55, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Iroh

1-02-2013

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I've always kind of felt that Iroh was depicted OOC there, though finding a suitable replacement has been hard -and possibly not to an end. I'm not entirely crazy about the proposal, but I do feel that it is a better representation of Iroh. He is seen smiling without coming off as a complete idiot. Personally, I find the smile to also give away some of his wisdom and his joy for life, as opposed to the serious and focused attitude he has in the current. The proposed is of good lighting and otherwise appealing as well. A minor downside could be that he is wearing a Fire Nation armor, though I don't find that to be an issue as The Search preview shows him wearing a Fire Nation royal robe again, thus once again donning himself in the typical red attire of the nation. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:06, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. ― Thailog 10:23, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
I like the proposed one for the reasons given. The background is nice, he has a better expression, and, well, he's smiling! Better representation. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 21:16, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
Though the current is great; I like the shot and everything, especially the White Lotus uniform, but the reasons given is beating my mind. I don't like the mix of background and Iroh, but the lighting is well. Support. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 13:55, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
I also support the proposed. The clothing is common as to what we've seen him wear most. I like the smile and the bright coloring of the picture. Great proposal. WaterbenderTaikai (Marionette · Parentless) 01:33, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Pakku

1-04-2013

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The proposed image wins out against the current on many fronts in my opinion. First of all, the lighting. In the current image, he just looks gray and otherwise dull, whereas the proposed has vibrant colors, making the entire image more alive and accurate. The proposed image also depicts him smiling smugly, which is basically how we got to know Pakku. He's smug smile in the proposed does a better job at portraying his personality than the expression he has in the current. The proposed is a more frontal shot of him, he doesn't stare off in the distant, and lastly, the proposed also depicts him in WT outfit at the NWT as opposed to his OWL robes. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:29, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 14:52, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
I'm gonna have to disagree on some points, Lady Lostris. Firstly, just because that's how we got to know Pakku, doesn't necessarily mean that it shows who he really is. The current, more neutral expression, is probably a better depiction of his personality, or at least not as incorrect - as per the page's own description. Secondly, you yourself stated you'd personally prefer them to have a slight sidewards position, wouldn't this qualify? Lastly, the outfit doesn't really matter much, but since it is more recent and OWL is a bigger role than his NWT role, I'd go with the original on that count. That said though, because of how different in color the current does show him, the proposed does have a big "pro" there. It's probably not a good idea to have the profile image showing him with pretty much gray skin when that's not the real color. However, Jeong Jeong also uses a similar picture and his skin color is more closer to that of Pakku's "real" color too. We're unlikely to get the "perfect picture", it really just depends on how people weigh up the importance of correct skin color (for profile picture) vs the pros of the current. Personally, I'm still going to go with the proposed. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 15:54, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
I disagree on a lot of things that you just said. The infobox image is an image chosen with the specific intend to portray the character as a whole the best. To that extend, the sour and blank expression the current has does not cut it as 1. that is not a neutral expression as you claim is to be and 2. he was not sour, nor blank. He was arrogant and cocky, which is portrayed in the proposal. So the way that we got to know him, is the way that we do know him. As an OWL member he was still arrogant and cocky, as examplified how he treated Sokka, so nothing changed there. The only thing that did change was his attitude toward Katara.
Er, when have I ever stated that I prefer to have a sideway view? I said that rejecting an image solely based on the fact that it has a sideway view is ridiculous, though that's not the same as saying that it's my preference.
I vehemently object that he had a bigger role as OWL member than he did as Katara's waterbending teacher and one of the lead defenders of the Northern Water Tribe when it was under attack, as well as the one who journeyed back to the SWT to help rebuild it. As OWL member he was only very briefly shown, so how exactly is that more relevant to him? It's not because that's his latest outfit that that should be his representation. If there is one thing that we truly know about the old OWL masters is that they only wear their OWL outfits on official OWL business, this meaning that most of the time they'll be caught wearing normal clothes, thus in Pakku's case his WT outfit (this is examplified mostly by Iroh who only wore his OWL robes during the final battle as far as we know).
As for the reference to Jeong Jeong, that's completely irrelevant to Pakku and that's being worked on ;-) That being said, skin color is indeed a personal preference. However, that doesn't mean that there isn't a right and a wrong skin color when it comes to the infobox images. The proposed has Pakku's right skiin color as how he was showed throughout the series as well as being more in line with WT people in general. The current is a heavily modified image to bright it up from an image by night. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:05, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Hmm, that's debatable. I'd point out that he'd only openly mock Katara, and that was upon first meeting her. Aside from that, he was mostly a pretty stoic person. When he was sat at the NWT council, despite the entire meeting being about him and his treatment to Katara, he had a similar expression to the current image. Most of the time that would be his persona for everyone. Katara seemed to be the only one he showed any expression to. The page's own description of him describes him as "dryly sarcastic and very serious about his art". The current picture shows him as a serious person, which is what he's seen as mostly as I pointed out. His treatment of Sokka (and somewhat to a lesser extent, Aang) was his dry sarcastic side coming out, but he'd often have a pretty serious expression, not smugness - well, slight annoyance too. If I recall too, that is the only time he really smiled smugly at all, every other time you see him he's either smiling happily (though, as happy as he seemed to get) or had that serious static expression on his face. I didn't say the current didn't have its flaws at depicting his personality as a whole, but it is more correct, imo, than the proposal.
Few image proposals down, for Ikki: "personally I'd prefer to have a slight sidewards position". I don't see how that's misinterpreted any other way. I was just pointing out that it seemed odd that you'd use that as a reason. *shrug*
Again, debatable. Hmm, I was mainly pointing out that what with the "re-emergence" of the OWL, they'd be much more widely known. With the OWL being the biggest reason that Omashu was freed, they become known all over the world. With that, Pakku would be known as the master waterbender in the organisation, though it is debatable since he would be known regardless. Also, if I recall, Iroh wore it during his entire stay with the OWL camp, so did everyone else - so not necessarily "special occasions", more likely when they were convened as an "official group". Eh, all debatable.
I wouldn't call the comparison to Jeong Jeong irrelevant if they both suffer the exact same coloring/lighting issue, but it's being worked on, so we'll see for that when it arrives. But this is all moot anyway, since I supported. Just thought I'd point out some flaws I saw. Skin color was the biggest "pro", outweighing the negatives imo, though not by a whole lot. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 16:45, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Since when is serious and blank the same as stoic and sarcastic? I can see the serious, but sarcastic? The current is far from showing that side. He is a serious, arrogant who thinks his better than most person and that is far from portrayed in the current image.
You could have misinterpreted that by not reading the entire sentence. While it is true that I said "personally I'd prefer to have a slight sidewards position", I said it in the context of "personally I'd prefer to have a slight sidewards position like 8 over a more frontal position with awkwardly floating arms like 3." So yes, in that specific context I prefer sideways over awkwardness, though that hardly counts as a general view and preference.
So basically, you're basing your preference for the OWL outfit entirely on speculation? As all the images that have shown Iroh after the events of the war showed him in normal clothing and there was not a word about the OWL members being famous and all. And yes, that was a special occasion as it was stated that Iroh specifically called a gathering of the OWL, thus they all wore their outfit, though that's the only time that they wear it as far as we know and we know that being an OWL member isn't a full time occupation as they all have other responsibilities as well -for which they don't wear the outfit.
Besides, if you already find that Pakku's biggest role was his OWL appearance, than Piandao and Bumi should be depicted in their OWL outfits as well as their contributions outside the OWL were even less than those of Pakku.
I know you supported, I just didn't want false and subjective opinions possibly influence people's objective views of the image, thus I reacted to this again. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:03, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
I'm in favor of the proposed replacement. To begin with, the colors are much more vibrant and make the image stand out better than the first. But on another note, the Water Tribe background seems more fitting for Pakku. Though he's a member of the OWL, the vast majority of his screen time depicts him as a proud waterbending master. Most of the dialogue from him reflects this; aside from disrespecting Katara, he was still shown mocking Aang during his training, leading us to have a generally arrogant impression of him. This is the kind of vibe we get from Pakku most of the time, and thus I think the proposed replacement fits him perfectly. Just my two cents. --MinnichiDai Li Sprite 21:43, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed; Pakku is well-known as Water Tribe waterbending instructor, and his role as O.W.L just explained in 4 last episodes, which 4 episodes don't take a big role to his story in A:TLA. Moreover the smiling depicts him most, so I must support. :P Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 05:43, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Cactus juice

1-06-2013

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The page is about the cactus juice, so it only stands to reason to actually have an image of the juice as "infobox" image. The current one totally focuses on Sokka's delusional state following the consummation of the juice rather than the juice itself. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:49, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion; and I agree with the reasoning above - focus on the subject would definitely be better here. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 21:03, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
Agree per given reasoning. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 22:40, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed; the current image has a lot of flaws; it depicts Sokka's craziness and the coloring is a bit yellowish. The proposed image is in the best shot, with some fresh splashy white water ;-) Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 05:43, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

I would also pick the proposed as it showes only the cactus juice and not Sokka. It about the juice, not Sokka drinking the juice. I would pick the new one. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 17:14, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Azula

1-06-2013

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The current one has the distracting guards in the back. This one still shows her personality while not having the distracting guards. G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! 20:44, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I don't think the guards are a problem - Azula is still focused on just fine and still stands out the most being upfront and center. The proposed is a little too dark over her face for my taste; I vote to stay with the current. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 21:01, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
I tweaked the colors, will it work now? G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! 21:07, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
Since when is Azula's personality a friendly, almost innocently smiling person? The lighting in the current image as well as the overall quality is far more superior as the proposed, as well as the portrayed attitude of the Fire Princess. She has a mocking, challenging, and a "better than thou" attitude, which is basically how we knew her in the series -and even in the preview of The Search. The guard are not distracting at all, if anything, they add to her air of authority. So for me it is definitely the current. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:59, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
I prefer the current. The lighting of the proposed is not ideal, and I feel it's a good representation of Azula. I actually like the look of the guards, it shows she is a powerful figure in charge of guards, and I don't feel it distracts from the image. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 21:57, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
The guards are a bit distracting, but the proposed isn't any better since the shadow on her face but the light in the background makes focusing on only Azula harder. If there were a different proposal, I'd pick that since the current isn't perfect. But since there isn't any other proposals, I say stick with the current. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 22:42, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
Per above, the current one. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 16:12, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Added a new image, which basically is the same as the current only a bit more further off, allowing her typical top-knot to be shown as well, which is better than the weird, cut-off hairdo that the current shows. Though further off, the image is still close enough to give a good view of Azula. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:28, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with the current image of Azula. There hasn't been for the four years it's been up there nor since two years ago when this "distracting guards" argument was first brought up. I think the top-knot is not that important, as IMO the most important thing is her facial expression which is more prominent in the current picture. Therefore, I lean towards the current more, but if the majority wants #2 then I'm fine with it. ― Thailog 12:00, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
I agree that the current one is the best. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 17:09, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
Proposal two seems to detract from some of the natural prominence Azula has in the current, mainly because she is farther off. The current is more focused on Azula's expression than extraneous details like the top-knot and armor, and the intensity of that focus distinguishes her from the guards that stand beside. Two takes away part of that focus, and I feel that lets Azula blend in with the guards too much. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 19:47, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Bumi

1-07-2013

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Both images are very similar, but I feel like the proposed does that one bit better in portraying his crazy side than the current one, which primarily depicts him as weird and serious. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:21, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:29, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
Support. Nothing much to say here, the proposed depicts more his personality, his smirk represent himself. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 15:54, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
Support off course, but I may bring up a few more soon. Srijay KTechFilmer 19:02, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
Support. the proposed picture is a better depiction of Bumi. Tim092391Murphy aka Tim 14:01, January 7, 2013 (ET)
Support, the proposal more closely shows how we normally see Bumi. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 22:53, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
support per above.ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 03:22, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Otter penguin

1-07-2013

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This is more about putting an option out there than there actually being something wrong with the current image. What we know of these animals is that they are rather social and live in large groups. I don't know, I felt like it could be nice portraying that side of the animal as well by using a shot from the series. I don't find Aang distracting at all since the animals are known to be human-friendly. But like I said, this is more a "hmm, perhaps" than a real preference :-) (as a side note, I do find that even though there are more penguins on the image, thus dividing the attention, the animal itself is better portrayed as you can better see its flippers and all.) Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:22, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:29, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
Support. The lighting is better, the snow background is obviously better than plain white. The proposed depicts more its behavior than plain one, the current. Support. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 15:54, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
Support per Acer. Srijay KTechFilmer 19:00, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
Support, since it has a few more benefits of showing the otter penguin better ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 22:36, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Cutter sailing ship

1-08-2013

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In the current image, the ships are rather far off and you can't really see their finer details. The proposals have the ship closer up and are also angled shots, which is another plus since the directly forward view in the current unfortunately allows the bow to obscure the view of much of the boats. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 00:24, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:07, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
I’m in favor with number 2 and 4. The images depict more about the ship than number 1. The lack of number 1 is the shot angle. It’s better if the angle is close-up or maybe horizontal, taken frontal. Number 3, I like it, but I don’t know the background is rather distracting as ship is usually on the sea and the rocks don’t look like sea, so… Number 2 or 4 for me. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 09:36, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
I favor number 2. Number 4 is not bad, but it is a cutter sailing ship of the Northern Tribe and we saw this type of ship just once, while the ships of the Southern Tribe (pictures 1,2, 3) were involved in many episodes. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 15:42, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Eastern Sea

1-08-2013

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This one is simple, the current image is not even a picture of the Eastern Sea. The proposal shows Bato's fleet as it sailed through the ocean in "Appa's Lost Days", and while the poor lighting and rain is not ideal, it is the only appropriate image of the sea I could find. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 00:24, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:07, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
I support. The current image shows nothing more than wide sea, a cutter sailing ship, and calm, quiet, normal weather. Though the blackout background is not really clear, I still support because the proposed depicts the situation of sea even more. I think the storm, thunder, wave can represent the sea better than current. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 09:36, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
Support because it is an actual depiction of the eastern sea. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 05:07, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Water Tribe markings

1-08-2013

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Both images are already on the page, but I suggest to switch their places. The proposed is currently used to portray the "war markings", something the current "infobox image" does a way better job with. At the same time, the proposed is a neutral depiction of someone of the Water Tribe receiving markings with paint without actually showing the marking. This is better as infobox image as it stays neutral toward all the markings and portrays the place where they are added as well as the means: paint. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:07, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:21, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
Absolutely agree. The current image stand alone as infobox image, and below it, Sokka has two images. It doesn't effect, yes, but the proposed is in neutral shot (the other three below are in close-up shot, so for consistency). Per LL reasoning. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 13:34, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed also. I'd like to add that the captions of the images should also be tweaked accordingly. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 15:22, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
Agree per everyone else. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:46, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Mae Whitman

1-10-2013

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Though quality wise okay, I never really liked the expression Mae has in the current image, as she kind of looks like she has seen a ghost. Besides that, the top of her head is cut off. I feel either of the two proposed would be better as an infobox image. They have both good quality and lighting and she is depicted in a natural way. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:09, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Both proposals look fine to me, so I wouldn't be upset either way really. That said, I think the #1 is perfect - centered right on her and free of any clutter. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:55, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with you both; #1 and #2 are fine, high quality and better than the current. Beside, as KFB cleared, number 2 has better image of Mae Withman. Why? First, the coloring. Number 2 has more color and better to look, and the shading is better than number 1. And also, in proposal one we can't see the details of her eyes! The shot also better than #1, so.... Number 2. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 09:46, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
Just a minor note, PSU voted for #1, not #2 as you said he did. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:58, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
Whoops. I know now, I dunno why did I say he did.... Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 11:29, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Aww I've always liked the original picture of Mae...ah well it does have a non-smily expression. Given that, the first proposed has a weird expression too, so I'll go with the second one.ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 04:47, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Gemsbok bull

1-10-2013

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I propose to change the frontal shot image of the running animals, where one is partially cut off and the other is rather far off, to a side-view image of the same two Gemsbok bull standing still on grass. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:14, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 14:37, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Agree! As we can see in the current image, the gemsbok bulls are rushing, running, with some dust behind them. I'd like number 1 because it's standing and the grass as LL said. Support. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 09:46, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Komodo rhino

1-11-2013

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Sort of the same reasoning as with the gemsbok bull: the current one is a frontal shot of the animal, which limits the visibility of its all-round anatomy. The proposed is more of a side shot and thus better depicts the animal as a whole. For instance, I never noticed that the komodo rhinos have blank eyes -now with the side image, I do. You also get a better depiction of the horn, allowing the viewer to truly see its size. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:51, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:01, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. Same reasoning with Gemsbok bull, the proposed has better color. Though the background is a little bit distracting, it contains wider shot of Komodo rhino. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 16:25, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
Support the change for the reasons given.ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 04:45, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Bonnie McNeil

1-13-2013

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Basically, I'm proposing to change one bad image for another just lightly better bad one. They both have incredible flaws, but I couldn't really find a more suitable one, so it's kind of choosing the best of the worst. The current one, while more vibrant in coloring, is a rather small image, thus making it all stretched out and incredibly pixelated when used in the the infobox. The proposed, while also having part of her head cut off, is larger and of better image quality and would thus look better when enlarged for the infobox. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:20, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 19:31, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
First off, the preferred file extension is .png; Lostris uploaded it thus I support. Why? Per the reason above, the .png file is bigger and wider, so if the image is used in infobox it won't pixelated. Agree with Lostris. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 15:20, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
The preferred file extension is indeed png, but that's a moot point as it is absolutely no trouble to convert the current jpg file to a png file if the community finds the current image a better fit. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:02, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Support per lostris. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 23:53, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Both have weird expressions for me, she's smiling but not with her eyes. But the second one is indeed ever so slightly better, and also for the image size issues. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 00:42, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Passport attendant

1-28-2013

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The passport attendant is a grumpy woman, sure, but the current image is just an awkward depiction of here. There are other images that still capture her grumpy and hautain persona without showing her mid-insult. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:34, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I lean toward #1 more than any of the other two; in my opinion #2 looks a bit awkward as well, and while #3 is essentially the same as the PI, it looks a little darker than #1. So I choose #1 as it maintains the personality while eliminating those two issues. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 23:10, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
I also like Proposal number one. It shows the personality with better lighting. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 03:18, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
I agree, proposal #1 is the best option - of good quality and lighting and an accurate portrayal of her. The Ultimate Waterbender 22:30, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Chi Blocking

1-28-2013

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There is nothing really wrong with the current, so this is again one of those "let's think about it"-proposals. Why I proposed it is because it is a clear, high-quality shot of one of the actual chi blocking moves, that thus show that Ty Lee (and the other chi blockers) don't just punch their victims with their fists, but more with their knuckles and fingers to get in that precise hit, thus emphasizing the preciseness that is required for the fighting-style. The current focuses mainly on Ty Lee hitting an earthbender in the back, though for all anyone would know, she could've just hit him with whatever. The image does show the effect of chi-blocking better, though the image could easily be preserved in the body of the article itself. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:12, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, but who is Ty Ly? One of Ty Lee's identical sisters? :p PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 22:19, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
I have no idea what you're talking about :-p Seriously, this has been the proposal from hell to make, it just would not cooperate with me. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:22, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
I support so long as you can confirm that is Ty Lee and not Ty Ly :P Srijay KTechFilmer 22:28, January 28, 2013 (UTC) (UTC)
Ty Ly?? Anyways...Support the change for the given reasons. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 03:28, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Organ grinder

1-27-2013

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Changing one bad image for another bad, though slightly better one. Both have obvious quality issues, but at least in the proposal, the organ grinder is depicted with a complete head. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:56, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:16, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
I am in a bit of a dilemma, since we know him as the organ grinder. It would be more suited to his personality to have the organ. But I do see how having half his head cut off is an issue too. The quality is also better on the proposed one, and the current has lots of distracting stuff. So I'll lean a tad bit towards the proposed one. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 04:30, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Zuko (pilot)

1-26-2013

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The current image is just rather weird with Zuko having his mouth open like that. He can still be the angry, scowling teenager with his mouth closed. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:21, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 19:33, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Support, the opened mouth part is weird. The proposed is slightly better. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 05:25, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Kya (pilot)

1-26-2013

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Neither of the proposed is really great, but I feel that they are better than the current one which is rather dark and has that distracting drop on her head. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:21, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I lean toward #2 if just for the fuller view of her face. You can tell this is a pilot episode, huh? PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 19:33, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
Urch yes, the quality of the images is a nightmare and frankly, the episode just sucks. Katara and Sokka are just mean, Aang is annoying, Zuko is way too angry, though Momo's cute ^^. I'm glad they stepped it up big time for the actual series. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:42, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

I agree, proposal number 2 is better because it shows her full face and she isn't in mid-action. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 05:26, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Songs in the World of Avatar

1-25-2013

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The current image just shows Iroh playing a tsungi horn, and does not convey anything about songs. The proposals are more relevant and show actual singing; I especially like number one, since it represents the soft tone and lighthearted nature of most songs in the Avatar World. Two is also fine, and might even be better in the sense that their expression is more neutral than Chong's slightly goofy (and perhaps distracting) smile, but I prefer how one has an instrument. Most songs are complimented by some sort of instrument, so I thought that was a nice touch. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 23:31, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I support the change as Iroh playing the tsungi horn is more associated with music in general, not specifically songs. I'm in favor of the first proposal; the second proposal doesn't depict actual singing, merely students reciting an oath. The first proposal will do just fine. The Ultimate Waterbender 23:36, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Honestly, is the oath really a song? The whole thing is a spoken word set. With that said, per Ulti, I'll vote for proposal #1. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 00:10, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
I wasn't entirely sure if the oath was a song either, though I included it since it was in the article. Should it be removed (both the image and the article section)? Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 00:20, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
I would be in favor of it; I honestly consider it more like our pledge of allegiance. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 00:21, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
I think it would be best removed as it is not a legitimate song; it more relates to the Pledge of Allegiance which is not considered a song either. The Ultimate Waterbender 00:22, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
I also agree to remove it. Also I like 1. Srijay KTechFilmer 00:25, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
Support Number one per everyone. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 00:39, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Just throwin' another option out there. Srijay KTechFilmer 19:48, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

I still like number one. There is too much background clutter in two, and Chong's expression is incredibly awkward. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 20:12, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
Per SFH, still #1 for me. Chong looks like he's getting frustrated with his guitar or trying to play some metal riff rather than singing. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 23:10, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
Per Sparky and KFB, it is a rather odd picture and he was more yodeling at that moment then singing. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 04:32, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Cutter sailing ship

1-23-2013

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I know the current image was chosen not too long ago, but I recently came across the proposed and I feel like it is a better fir cause it does not have the distracting wave, it shows the ships in "full glory" sort of speak, with full sails etc, and by having a slightly tilted angle as opposed to the complete side-shot, I feel like you get a better depth of the ship. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:27, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:20, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Support, it is a better view. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:04, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

I support the change as well; the coloring and view, as stated above, are an improvement. The Ultimate Waterbender 20:35, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
I oppose. I feel that the current one shows it better. Srijay KTechFilmer 19:50, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
The current one only shows a side view though, and it has that distracting wave. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 04:33, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Waterbender prison

1-20-2013

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By showing the prison cells at a different angle, I feel like the magnitude of the prison comes off better as more cells can be seen in the background. More emphasis is also placed on the fact that the cells are dangling from the ceiling, completely severing the waterbenders from everything. In the proposed, the center of the image and thus the natural focus point is also a cell, as opposed to a piece of the corridor in the current. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:13, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 00:21, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Support, it's a better view. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 03:18, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ice torpedo

1-20-2013

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The focus point of the current image is the submarine more than the torpedoes being fire out of it. The proposed is a clearer, free from any other distracting objects, image that neatly shows the torpedoes in their icy shell coursing through the water. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:19, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 14:50, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

I would pick the proposed pic because it shows only the ice torpedo. While the other one shows like two of them being fired from the sub. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 20:30, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Support per hopemon and lady lostris. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 06:19, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Cabbage Corp

1-19-2013

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Not really sure if needed, but when in doubt, it can't hurt to propose. Reason to change: the proposal is a shot of the entire building, whereas the current restricts itself to the base only. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:47, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 19:57, January 19, 2013 (UTC)
I support the change, the complete view of the building is nice. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 20:04, January 19, 2013 (UTC)
I support the change as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 22:59, January 19, 2013 (UTC)
Support, it's a better view. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 05:13, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
The full view depicts the place better, supported. -  Wings wallcontribs 16:34, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Fox antelope

1-16-2013

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Both images are similar and of good quality, though even though the proposal cuts of part of the horns, I feel like it's a better representation of the animal as it clearer shows the face. I always thought that the animal was named "fox" antelope due to the coloring and the bushy tail, but it's only now that I truly see that it is also because of the shape of the head. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:49, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:35, January 16, 2013 (UTC)
Full support; per the reason given and it should changed, so the Fox antelope won't share similar image with Fauna in the World of Avatar. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 13:21, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
The proposed image will completely replace the current image. They are too similar to have them both around, there is no point to that. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:25, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
I like the proposed, Support! ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:37, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Sun Warrior chief

1-15-2013

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I just don't like the current image at all. It's an awkward pose mid-speech and he just looks like he is smelling something disgusting. Either of the proposed would do better imo, each one depicting one side of his personality. The first on depicts him more as the stern and strict chief, while the second one shows his more mellow side. They're both of good quality and lighting, thus I feel that's no issue here, so it's only a matter of preference of which side we want to depict him with. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:14, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Tough pick; we saw both halves of him represented well; but, I kind of like #1 more because it shows his defense for the origins of firebending and how strict he is on intruders of the ancient city and its old treasures, if that makes sense. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:30, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
While I do prefer the slightly angled view in proposal two, it seems #1 is a better representation of his character. Building on what KFB said about his strict personality, #1 best consolidates his position as chief; his posture shows he is stern, and the people surrounding him is a nice touch that represents leadership and authority. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 22:43, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
I completely agree with Lostris and I support proposal #2. I don't really like proposal #1 because the image should strictly be about the sun warrior chief and not the other warriors. I also like the expression proposal #2 gives.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  00:44, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

I like two because I find the people in one a bit distracting, but that is the better side of him. So I support number one. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:22, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

When I noticed this proposal in the "current proposal" section, I went to the chief page and noticed that Sun Warrior Chief is a strict and stern in the ancient heritage, Per LL. In my opinion, the people are not distracting at all, and to depicts his personality well, number 1, of course. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 08:56, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Longshot

1-29-2013

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The current image has weird lightning and depicts Longshot with his mouth open. Regardless from the fact that it is a little awkward, it is also not how we know him. Apart from his action in The Promise, he only said one sentence in all the time that he appeared on screen. Thus I propose to change the image to one with better (or at least less awkward) lightning that depicts him in his usual serious and silent attitude. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:29, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 15:17, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
Support. The first thing I noticed was how weird the lighting was. The mouth is also weird as Lostris pointed out, and the proposed is more fitting of his personality. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 05:57, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
I support as per the above, mainly the fact that the current has his mouth wide open and it's the only time we ever see this from him. SifuHotman90 Zuko-dobs-c7 05:11, February 1, 2013 (UTC)
Definitely #1. ― Thailog 00:38, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
Oppose. His experssion is just weird and i din't like the way his face is shown. Srijay KTechFilmer 22:05, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
It's better than the current. The proposed is how we know him and doesn't have the weird glare. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 23:07, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
The glare was there because of the fact that the green tint was removed. Try it looking at it now. Srijay KTechFilmer 23:11, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I still see the glare. But even besides that, that was the only time we've ever seen him talk, and so his personality is just a silent person (not a bad thing). The profile image is supposed to be the best portrayal of a person (and the person's personality) and the proposed, I think, does a much better job of that. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:48, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

#1. Anarchic 00:02, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Betrothal necklace

2-3-13

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No issues with the current, it is just that Katara's necklace was more prominent in the series. Srijay KTechFilmer 19:43, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 19:49, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to have to oppose– simply because the proposed is the same as the one used for Katara's necklace, and I think it may be confusing using the same image for both articles. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 20:40, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
After reading what ATFF wrote, I'm going to have to agree with ATFF that it may be confusing. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 23:08, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
Oppose. Anarchic 00:02, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

I don't see what is confusing. I find CI confusing. We all are used to seeing Katara's as the main necklace in the series. Yue's was seen just once. SO when you think of the necklace does Katara's necklace or Yue's come to mind. Katara's does. Not Yue's. Srijay KTechFilmer 22:06, February 6, 2013 (UTC) (UTC)

Sorry, Godsrule, but I'd agree with everyone above; though Yue's was seen just once, but everyone does know that it's a betrothal necklace because of the carving. I don't see the CI confusing, but your reason is acceptable. :) Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 12:09, February 7, 2013 (UTC)
Well, Gyatso had a necklace. And how does the carving tell you that it is a BN? Gyatso had carvings on his and so did Aang. Srijay KTechFilmer 18:42, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
Oppose per ATFF and the fact that the current image was actually used and shown as a betrothal necklace. When Katara wore that necklace, it's purpose was that of a memorandum, not a betrothal necklace. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:59, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Marcella Lentz-Pope

2-3-13

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Both are awful quality wise both this one IMO looks better and doesn't have her face cut off Srijay KTechFilmer 20:51, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, but I don't think the "cutoff" is much of a problem in the current. I'm fine with the CI. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 21:38, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
Support as well. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 23:09, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
I support the proposal, it takes away the glare in the current. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 01:29, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
Support. Anarchic 00:02, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Greg Baldwin

2-3-13

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Proposal Number Two will be the new profile image.
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I hate both of these, may I just say, but I honestly feel that proposal #1 is the lesser of two evils. Although Baldwin is off-center (the left side of his head is slightly cut off) and the quality is slightly lesser than that of the current, at least Baldwin doesn't look like a serial killer in the proposal. Seriously, I wasn't sure if he was just deep in thought about something which really pissed him off when he took this or if he was contemplating murder, but I knew off the bat that he didn't look happy in the current. At least in the proposal, in spite of all its flaws, Greg is smiling, which is always a plus.

Azulazulazula (Life is like a tall cliff...)Naga-chao5 20:28, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I can do this but I added one more. Srijay KTechFilmer 20:41, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
Approved for discussion., Honestly, I kind of like #2 above the others, it's less awkward than either of them - the CI almost makes him look like he's depressed and PR1 makes him looks like he's gangsta or something of the like. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 21:38, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
#2. Anarchic 00:02, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Screeching bird

2-16-13

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Image 1 will be the new infobox image.
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The current image does a good job portraying how far the bird can open its beak, though by doing so, it completely obscures the fact that the bird has eyes and fails to show how big the beak is in comparison to the rest of the animal's body etc. Both proposals show the bird with its beak closed, which is preferred in my opinion. Personally I favor #1 because it's a nice center shot of the bird without Aang, Katara, and Sokka in the background. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:24, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I was going to say #2 but then I took notice of the gang in the background, so, I will go with #1 as well. Random side note: Anyone notice that Katara looks way taller than Sokka and Aang both? :p PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:30, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
That's just cause they're clinging to her Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:33, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
True, so much for big, brave, Sokka...XD Whoops we're off-topic, what are we talking about again? :p PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:35, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
Just like PSUAvatar14, I favor #1, since it has the better lighting, color, background and the bird is even flying. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 17:35, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
I favor number one as well.ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 20:22, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
Same as above. Srijay KTechFilmer 02:04, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Elbow leech

2-17-13

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Proposal will be new infobox image
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The proposed image is a crop and thus focuses more on the animal itself. By only showing the elbow, all the other distracting elements are eliminated from view, whereas in the current image, the attention is naturally drawn to Sokka's screaming face. It also shows the animal on itself without Sokka tugging on it. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:44, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Approved for discussion; I support the change - much better view of the creature itself. The Ultimate Waterbender 03:23, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
Support also for given reasons. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 21:24, February 18, 2013 (UTC